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Happy Arbor Day!(OT)
Posted 04/20/2007 @ 2 :21 PM

Mornin', Tribe. As we all look forward to the weekend, keep in mind that TennisWorld will hold its first (annual?) New York social next Tuesday, April 24th, 6:30-9 PM, at The Telephone Bar  in Manhattan's East Village. We have their back room reserved, and you'll be able to order drinks and food at your leisure. If you plan to attend and have not RSVP's, please do so to me or Steggy . It's not mandatory but it would be nice for us to have a rough head count. I'm hoping El Jon Wertheim will join us, and have invited a few other special guests as well.

A few weeks ago, I was hurrying through the 42nd St. Subway station and I passed one of the officially (NYC) endorsed buskers/performers, a trio comprised of three elderly African-American gents playing  some very  cool (and distinctly non-urban) bluegrass music (featuring banjo, bass, fiddle). They were the Ebony Hillbillies, and after pausing to listen for a few moments, I went on my way. Twenty minutes later, I was kicking myself for not throwing a few bucks into the open bass case, or ponying up the $10 and buying one of the CD's.

Well, yesterday the Ebony Hillbillies were back on the job, in the antiseptic hallway leading from the uptown No. 1 train to the R and W lines. I jumped on the chance and am now the proud owner of my first EH CD, Sabrina's Holiday. A little later today, we're launching a new TennisWorld feature that will probably become a weekly staple, Tennis by the Letters. It's a slight variation on the very popular "By the Numbers. . ." feature that so many magazines and websites run these days. It should be up later this afternoon, about the time we're in the car and heading for the farm in game-rich Andes.

Tomorrow is Arbor Day in a neighboring town, Walton. The local Soil and Agriculture District office will be selling various seedlings and shrubs, some of which are great forage for wildlife, potential Christmas trees (although I could never whack a tree I planted myself), windbreaks, or merely decorative plants. By Saturday evening, my back will be aching, I'm sure.

A few follow-up thoughts on recent posts:

TW's good friend Bonnie DeSimone, is down in Delray Beach, covering Fed Cup for ESPN. I neglected to check the site before I wrote yesterday's Fed Cup post, and for some reason she wasn't linked by Bob Larson's Tennis News or at Court Coverage. Here's a link to her story.  BTW, she will be there for the tie, and she'll have a wrap-up on Monday. looking for the skinny to supplement your viewing, she'll have it.Venusserena

Now. . .

There is no successful sport that is run by the athletes who play it. This is something to keep in mind when contemplating the friction between players and the ATP, WTA, or the ITF. The current ATP model may come as close, as it is a partnership between the players and tournaments; in most other major sports, there is an official establishment that runs the game, and a player's association that represents its partners, the athletes.

The recent controversy over the Masters Series status of certain events (Monte Carlo and Hamburg) and the overall, widely acknowledged challenges faced by the ATP underscore some of the pitfalls of having the players take too leading a role in administering and, basically, promoting the game. One obvious one is that players are creatures of the era in which they play, and they are creatures of habit (like the rest of us); they cannot and perhaps should not be expected to transcend their of-the-moment prejudices Another problem is the mixed signals sent when the players get into a conflict with the executive, administrative arm of the game. A person who understand how the game is organized has every right to ask: What on earth is wrong when the players are criticizing or bucking the policies and decisions made by an entity they own and run (albeit in a partnership)?

Remember, this isn't like a player's union resisting the policy of the league in which it functions. This is essentially the players criticizing themselves, or those whom they delegated to make decisions. Once again, the game ends up looking fractured and crippled by disagreement and dissent. Forget who is right or wrong for moment; the signal is not a good one. It suggests that the model is flawed. Add the challenges the game has faced in its attempt to grow (and playing musical chairs with events and grabbing at any purse-string dangled in front them is no model for, to use the mot de jour, "sustainable" growth) and it's easy to get the impression that tennis is not institutionally and organizationally as competitive as it needs to be in the intensely competitive sports market.

Arlen Kantarian, the Chief Executive of Professional Tennis for the USTA, made this point for me in a recent conversation in a different context. He laid out the reality: television drives the success of sports today, like it or not. And tennis has never been able to offer television networks the level of continuity and uniformity which the nets deem necessary to fully get behind and promote a pro sport. Some of this is real nuts and bolts stuff: If you can't offer a viewer a reasonable number of tournaments, in a clear sequence, over an adequate period of time, you're at a competitive disadvantage.

Consider the numbers Kantarian produced for me, keeping in mind that the most continuity tennis offered last year was the 8 weeks of the U.S. Open Series (an entity that, bafflingly, is dismissed by some readers here as some kind of publicity stunt). But okay. Eight weeks, right? Now, compare:

National Football League: 27 weeks

National Basketball Association: 36 weeks

Major League Baseball: 35 weeks

National Hockey League: 36 weeks

Major League Soccer: 32 weeks

Any questions? I am going out on a limb here to suggest that this situation is not just comparable, but identical, in Europe (weigh-in, if you have the data, one way or the other).

Alright, now, tennis is an international game. That means all kinds of complex business problems, not to mention the broadcaster's bane: time zones. But let's start small. I remember that the BBC used to broadcast a soccer match-of-the-week, every week (for all I know, it still does). So why not have a Match of the Week? in tennis - even if it is a Thursday or Friday, to steer clear of the crowded  weekend sports  buffet?

Couldn't ESPN2 or The Tennis Channel (once it reached a respectable number of homes) come up with a Match of the Week, in the specific time slot every week (even if it is tape delayed), through an enterprising joint-venture between broadcasters, tournaments, and the ATP and WTA? Almost every marquee match is broadcast by someone these days; how hard can it be for ESPN to negotiate to get a U.S. feed for the most appealing, Thursday quarterfinal at, say Monte Carlo, on a one-off basis, even if it meant shoving Pat McEnroe and Cliff Drysdale into a bunker in leafy Connecticut to do virtual commentary?

This, also, is where a concept like the U.S. Open Series, or the Roland Garros Series (which doesn't really know it is a Series, but never mind), is a critically valuable idea. The high-point for television tennis in my time was the great series of PBS Monday night broadcasts, circa 1977, that brought us the finals of the U.S. summer circuit events in an orderly, weekly string (just to show how times have changed, most of those events were on clay; the only flaw was that some people got mighty sick of watching Guillermo Vilas grind one opponent after another into dust). And the Virginia Slims series of tournaments were a close second, in terms of providing  continuity.Globe

Looking at the bigger picture, one way to resurrect and/or provide that level of continuity would be for the tours to adopt a regional approach based on three or more distinct "circuits" - a year-opening Pacific/Asia/U.S. circuit, culminating with the Miami; a  spring, European clay-court circuit, followed by a break for an annual summer tennis festival culminating with Wimbledon; a summer, U.S. hard court circuit, culminating the U.S. Open. You could also add a fall/winter indoor circuit. The only under-represented region is, obviously, Central/South American. But that region has been able to stage so few quality events, despite the proliferation of players it produces, that it could probably be folded into the first, winter/spring leg - these days, clay and hard are not different, at least speed-wise.

I know we're all tapped out on discussing the geopolitics of tennis, so feel free to talk amongst yourselves, about anything. And have a great weekend, everyone!

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First!

Pete,
Couldn't agree more with your idea regarding the schedule. I actually blogged about making different 'tennis seasons' a couple months back (albeit I never actually called it a 'series'). Also, your idea about a match of the week on ESPN is great. Last Sunday (first day of Monte Carlo) I came across the women's college bowling championship on ESPN 2. I would hope that the general public that watches sports would rather tune into Federer than college bowling. Whoops! Didn't mean to bring up the whole Men's vs. Women's controversy again...either college bowling championship would put most to sleep.

New Yorkers have it all: The Ebony Hillbillies, reliable mass transportation, AND a TW fest. Spoiled brats!

Wish I could be there, Mr.Bodo. Have a drink for me and pretend that I'm paying for it, OK? That drink, however, ought to be a beer, a glass of wine, or a glass of bourbon--not some prissy apple martini or anything that involves fruit.

Best,
Liron

Pete: my issue with the players has nothing to do with the players of today. It has to do with the players of a prior generation who willingly gave up the ATP's role as a player union.
Once you ununionize, you can't go back.
Realistically, these players have enough on their plates with practices, matches and sponsor obligations that it's hard for them to take on the reigns as ATP "managers."
Should they be muzzled? No. Should they have a voice? Yes.
But, there has to be a balance and the current system seems to work.
Like Lubby or not, but he's pretty diplomatic and measured in his role as player council president. He encouraged people to try out new ideas but he also speaks up for them when they have a beef.

Ms. Rubin. I have an image to maintain, what would the Tribe think if they saw me wandering around with a frothy strawberry-based drink with an umbrella sticking out of it? I'm going GEs or beer and I'll bill you later.

Geez, make Pete the First Tennis Commissioner already!!! This idea makes a large amount of sense.

Anyone who compares the USO series to the NFL regular season is just kidding themselves.

But tennis does have a regular season.
Look at the WTA. The season started with Safina and Jankovic, the 2 FCC finalists, winning tournaments. The next week Sydney. Then the AO. Then Tokyo. Paris. Antwerp. Dubai, Doha, IW, Miami.
Every week is a tournament.
And look at the finals.
Serena-Maria in the AO. Justine-Amelie in Dubai. Serena-Justine in Miami.
Antwerp had a huge final. Kim's last match in Belgium and Amelie going for that $1.3 million racket.

There is a season. That's not the problem.

The problem is getting people aware of the tournaments.

Love the idea of 'match of the week'. That will certainly provide much needed continuous coverage of tennis. The hardcore fans would prefer 'live' coverage. But casual fans would prefer to watch exciting personalities and matches. But with ESPN, there is always a danger to showing 'american match of the week' as opposed to really 'the best match of the week'.

Also, lets for forget internet. The masterseries.tv is quite good. They need to do it for entire year for both ATP/WTA.

Pete,

That match of the week idea is pretty good. And if they can't reply on the goodness of the hearts of the ESPN executives to put it on, I am the ATP could to scrape the cash together and do a time-buy to make sure it gets aired, much like MLS soccer had to do for its first few years.

Only problem is that tennis is a bit unpredictable, so how to you decide which match to display? With the BBC, they can schedule Manchester United vs. Chelsea and hype that game for a few weeks. With the tennis match of the week, you may not know what match-up you'll get outside of a day or two before. Of course you could always show Rafa vs some guy, or TMF vs. another guy, but just featuring the stars does not always put the best tennis on the air if its Fed or Nadal against some guy who can't keep up.

Trying to think of a solution here but can't come up with any good ones, besides maybe showing the best overall match from the past week.

Maybe for the benefit of TV, tennis needs more exhibitions, like this crazy battle of the surfaces match, or get the top 10 players to play each other more often by holding more tournaments similar to the end of the year event.

Not that I know anything compared to you and Arlen Kantarian, Pete, but here are two counterexamples to your idea of a season in all major sports. I point these out not to be argumentative but to help consider the idea of further "season-izing" tennis: The first example is golf, which has a meandering tour marked by multiple high points. Doesn't seem to hurt their ratings or the money, of which golfers earn so much more.

The second is soccer, in which, like tennis, many different seasons overlap: at any given point, a player might be playing in 1) a pro league's (like the English Premier League) regular season 2) a pro league's postseason 3) the Champion's league (an inter-league competition) 4) international qualifications and play 5) European Championships 6) World Cup. It's hella confusing for the newbie, and many of these levels (at least 1, 3, and 4) are occuring at once. Wayne Rooney might play for Man U in a league match, a Champion's league match, and an England match in the space of ten days.

My point is that there always going to be weeks where a confusing (to the newbie) set of tourneys is happening all over the world at once. And in a way, the RG Series and US Open Series, were they to be promoted more, will only divert attention from the truly meaningful tier structure of tennis: the Slams, the Master's Series and Cup, followed by the International Series. THAT's the structure that seems to me to be the most basic. By comparison, the US Open Series IS a marketing fiction: the game's top players don't care about it. Federer could win it every year; he'd rather rest up.

The historic set of major tournaments are not laid out in a rational way, the way the NFL season leads to the playoffs; their weeks in the calendar are the deposits of history, like huge glacial moraines. So there's always gonna be some ill-fitting elements in tennis, and like golf and soccer, that seems fine by me.

Where all this converges, though, is on the idea that the quarters, semis, and finals of every prestigious tournament NEED to be on TV. I totally agree with you. Then fans will just come to understand the structure of the tour no problem, just like newbie NFL-watchers gradually imbibe the rules for getting a wildcard into the playoffs. It's happening now with TTC, and that is to the good. At this point, I think bringing TTC and it's balanced coverage (far superior to ESPN's) of the Master's Series to the widest possible audience will do more than any other thing to bring new fans.

TTC on basic cable is the grail, in my opinion.

Sorry for Bob-long post!

the TTC is a male oriented network it seems to be.More men's matches than women's matches.Who on god's earth wants to see Karlovic beat Zabaleta to win his first title on american green "clay" for heaven's sakes?
I'm tired of looking at Hewitt's face on No Strings or Nadal or Haas.
Get new interviews with new players not american favorites for crying out loud.Tennis doesn't revolve around Federer,Nadal,Blake,Roddick,Sharapova,Hewitt and the Williams.I want in depth pieces with all the other players.
I have seen the screwitt too many times to even count.
let's have Rezai and Peer on tv.
Let's go behind the scenes of the FFT and how they teach the players how to play all around games on all surfaces.
Let's see how the Sanchez Academy works and how it has produced fine players like Murray and Kuznetsova.
I don't want style shows or poke shows with Roddick and Blake;enough.Have mercy on poor tennis fans around here just begging to get to know all the players we just get to see on a court.

The match of the week idea is a great idea, heck I rack my Directv listings every week just to find the ATP highlights show so a MOTW on even say ESPN Classic would be awesome. Also back to the regional tour concept, think of what it could mean for say someone like Donald Young who would be able to mix with the Roddicks and Querrys while still being stationed in the US, Also think of the way you could even promote the Davis Cup (say every other year and on the odd years have say a Euro championship or a Copa America style competiton. And maybe for Asia and Africa, could they even bring back the Sugar Circuit for aspiring tennis pros imagine the buzz of an up and coming star from China or South Africa. Alright now I'm starting to hear the Man of Lamancha soundtrack in the background. And you know I really am suprised and pleased about Arlen's visions for the future, I just hope he doesn't come home to a horses head on his practice court.

P.S. They could also bring back the Galea Cup too (alright, alright I'll calm down now)

One further comment, then out before I get myself banned for length: I love the "Match of the Week" idea too, in theory, but IT MUST BE LIVE. Tape-delayed sports in the age of the internet will never gain much popularity. That's why not a single moment of football, basketball, baseball, or hockey is ever broadcast on tape-delay: their fans would rightly not stand for it.

Ray
Good point about the USO series. Why is it only a prize money bonus and not a points bonus?

Giving a point bonus for the US Open Series would make it "real," ptenis, but at the expense of Balkanizing the tour, in my opinion.

The question I want to ask Kantarian is, why do they give golf huge chunks of network coverage EVERY weekend, without any "clear sequence" of events?

pete/arlen--match of the week is a great idea.

ray--would love the live feed but i don't know if it is doable due to the international nature of the game. i am sure it would be easier to have it on a set day/time slot.

media--features about sanchez academy or french federation sound great.

i would also throw in: the match of the week could also have a top ten round up of the two tours so that the newbies would start recognizing the foreign players. or, pick a player in the top-10 of either tour and do a feature.

Well not if the ATP took a decision to clearly delineate the seasons and implemented the same structure everywhere.

Liron

More in the spirit of reaction to those who think wine should taste of chocolate, or grass, or truffles (ie, have impenetrable flavors, and cost a fortune), than in reaction to your slight omission, but I must say, loud and clear:

WINE IS MADE OF FRUIT!!

Pete,

I think your post is of two distinct halves -- the organization; and the schedule.

Your concerns about the players running the show, the historical failure of this model, are salutary, but they're not universal. In any case, we have to take this on its own merits, and it seems clear -- the players are clear -- that their problem is with their CEO: irrespective of the details, he's not communicating well with them. to the point where they felt they had to make a show of force and speak out about it. To me, that's pretty serious, and there's no sign they're all loose cannons, so it has to be taken seriously.

Sure, E De Villiers gets flak, but that's what he's paid for, and he has made some unfortunate public comments (far more so than the players), so I think you have to analyse the players' statement in this light.

About the schedule -- these are great ideas, and I hope they are heard by the ATP. I think a 'Match of the Day' is a great idea, and I don't think it has to be hyped weeks in advance. You can just hype the fact that it's going to be the BEST two hours of tennis in the last week, and use some of the time to introduce the competitors, the tournament, the background to the match, and the stakes. Then build your brand. I love it.

About Monte Carlo

Is the final a five set match??

Thanks to whoever knows.

In addition to a live Match of the Week, I would love it if EPSN Classic aired some more old school tennis matches. I have no ideas what kind of red tape they would come across, and while plenty of what Classic airs is entertaining, there is plenty of stuff they could cut (bowling, it always comes back to bowling) in lieu of classic tennis matches. Someone please call Bristol and get it done. Thanks.

I SO WISH I COULD MEET EVERYONE IN NEW YORK! I hope everyone has a great time!

On another note, I found out that the guy I played tennis with last night (a deceptively skilled and quick 60+-year-old) hit around with Arthur Ashe in high school...

Sorry, I obviously meant ESPN Classic - its Friday at 5, the sun is out and I can barely concentrate. And yes, the MC final is five sets (Nadal won in 4 last year I believe)

Media,

Maybe the TTC shows more men's tennis than Women's simply because there's more of it? I am looking for the stats, but if I remeber correctly, it seems that the top ATP players play more matches. Federer player something like 95 singles matches in 2006 compared to Sharapova playing 68 singles matches that year.

As for the Ivo vs. Zabaleta final - that's tennis. They both earned thier spots in the final and the TTC was commited to showing the final not matter who played.

I do admit that the TTC needs to work on some new programing. Hopefully they can do more with recent investments from the USTA and hopefully they can rake in more from ads now that they are on DirectTV.

Will have a beer for ya, Ryan.

Ptenis, don't you think the problem is that the same structure CAN'T be instituted everywhere, because the tour is not laid out into seasons. It would require a lot of rejiggering to come up with more than two seasons (US and RG).

Maybe that's the way to get players, to commit to all the events, though...

Jeremy,

The tennis channel has been playing some good French Open classic matces in the lead-up to the French Open this yer.

I wish I could be at that gathering too- but it is not to be - this time.
Nora- sadly the final will be best of 3 .

Thanks striker...now if we can only get the TTC in as many households as the ESPN networks

hmm- read Jeremy's comment after I had posted mine. Last year was definitely best of 5 - but I thought they decided to switch. Maybe not. I hope it is best of 5, still . but I could swear they changed.

I thought all the Masters were reduced to best of 3 except Miami which wasn't reduced cuz of the pre-existing contract with CBS or something like that. Up until the day of Miami I was reading/hearing conflicting reports, so maybe we'll get a nice surprise Sunday. jejeje

Beth et al...just checked the website, you are correct they did change to best of 3, unfortunate! Sorry to mislead everyone

Best of 3 final matches stink. For some reason I feel cheated after a best of 3 finals match, like only watching half a soccer match or missing the final 5 minutes of a college b-ball match. I think all finals should be best of 5.

I want my best of 5 back...how on earth are we going to get another Rome final if it's best of 3 :(

Pete, I agree that the tour needs reorganising, but your blueprint seems to omit the AO. The Fed wants the AO moved to March. While I understand why, that isn't going to work unless Indian Wells and Miami are pushed back to later in the year. I don't see that happening.
I would like to see the following
A Southern Hemisphere summer series culminating in the AO, surface Rebound Ace
A Northern Hemisphere spring series culminating in Miami, but including Dubai, surface, hard court
A European clay court season culminating in the French Open
A grass Court season culminating in Wimbledon
A summer hard court season culminating in the US Open
A fall/winter indoor season culminating in the ATP tour Championships, surface, carpet.

The AO is held too early in the year and needs to be pushed back at least until the beginning of February so that we can have a decent series of tournaments in the Asia/Pacific region leading up to the AO.

With Europe still in the grips of winter the spring series in the US plus the Dubai tournament make sense.

The gap between Miami and the French Open leaves plenty of time for everyone to get dialed into clay.

But then we have what I consider to be the big anomaly, the two week window between French Open and Wimbledon. I would like to see Wimbledon rescheduled to the last week of July so that we could have a decent grass court season including Newport Rhode Island, the Hall of Fame tournament. To me it's ridiculous that this comes after Wimbledon when most players want to take a break before focussing on the summer hard court season and the US Open.

I say it is an anomaly, because The Championship, which everyone aspires to win, is played on a surface which has become irrelevant in the modern game. I think we have lost something because of that.

you all are so right. last year's best of 5 matches in the Rafa - Fed finals were the best in tennis last year. I am disappointed that we will not get an encore. Even if the players repeat.

Nora,

LOL (regarding your wine comment)! Of course, I know that wine is made from grapes, but I still don't think of dry red wine (my drink of choice, in fact) as a "fruity" drink--that is, cloyingly sweet.

--Liron

The ATP should try to shorten the season/smooth the calendar or whatever by eliminating nonsense tournaments...like Houston (and I live in Houston!!) They should do that rather than degrading a prestigous tournament like MC.

I also have fond memories of the Monday night finals broadcast on PBS--Donald Dell and Bud Collins providing lots of tennis trivia, especially during rain delays.

The tennis match of the week is a great idea. Even where there is coverage available, like Monte Carlo on TTC, there are always great matches that don't get air time. I would have loved to see the Ferrer-Djokovic match, but they only showed a few games during a lull between the center court matches.

Liron

Yes, my comment was directed toward that, though. There's a school that thinks red wine should be so powerful that they think that 'fruity' is a dirty word. I think that's wrong, myself. I consider fruity a compliment for wine, much more so than 'concentrated' or 'explosive'!

I suppose 'drinkable' remains the ultimate compliment though!

Hey gang! I'm back in business! My internet connection has been out most of the day so I've missed you guys *waves at everyone*!

Roger's back in the SF! Go Roger - Beat JCF! You have to for my sakes!

Just checking back in for a second...wanted to thank everyone for the word on the 'woad' blue plate special from the Wed. OT Thread. Very interesting stuff. Anyone every read "How the _____ Saved the World?" Its a series of books, by different authors about how much different ethnic groups have contributed to modern society; fill in the blank with; Irish, Scots, Jews, Italians,etc. Don't tell anyone, but apparently tartans, as associated with different Scottish clans, only came into being during the Victorian era, and do NOT date back to ancient Scottish Kings, blue or otherwise. Shhhhh... I SAID not to tell.

Whew...good thing this is OT or I'd be in trouble now. Got to digest Pete's latest and comeback, but just for now may I say that I LOVE ESPN Classics' tennis matches. There should just be more of them on more often.

Now I have to go and try and figure out where I heard the line that put the whole blue thing in my head in the first place...this may be beyond IMDB. Its certainly beyond my random access memory.

Agreed ray, there is not enough of a build up going into either AO or wimbledon although this is an easier problem to solve for Oz.

"suppose I came up with 50 terrific reforms for the civil service, who would have to implement them"
She saw my problem at once. "The civil service." she sympathized.

They would also have to come up with a way to weight the 4 "series" evenly.

This will come off as a bit negative, and it is raining in SoCal today, but the whole "regional tour" idea strikes me as an even bigger disaster than the round robin was.

You have to start every single discussion with the basics. There are only 52 weeks in a year. Of those weeks, eight are Grand Slam weeks, realistically, the two weeks prior to each Grand Slam are "not" going to be MS events no matter what, so thats really 16 weeks right there.

If, lets say, you ended up with another eight tournaments of MS caliber, ideally they would also be two weeks, as IW and Miami already are. That's another 16.

Everyone, absolutely everyone, votes for a week in between those MS events. Thats another 8.

Just in case you're counting, we are at 40 weeks. The week before and the week of the YEC gets you to 42.

Any other weeks a player might or could play is obviouly up to that player, but in terms of the "tour" that is it.

It was hard enough to get to this point, to propose taking this hard earned pie and slicing it up into regions, well, how could that possibly work?

Right now, tournaments are put in jeopardy if the entire top five do not play.

Regional tours would only guarantee that every tournament but the Slams would be in constant jeopardy.

I might live to see the day when the MS events are rotated around the globe, its logical, it could work as long as the infrastructure/facilities issues are ironed out, but then again, lets not count our chickens.

For now, keeping the MS format strong, with more combined ATP WTA tournaments, is the prize.

Imagine, when they can't even introduce a week between Canada and Cincy, how hard it will be to move Slams and bunches of other events into duck-like rows. Ain't gonna happen. For me, ensuring that anyone who wants to, CAN see the great tennis that is going on as we speak is the most achievable goal. Hence TTC on basic cable is my totally unscientific sense of the best target.

I fear that messing around with too many events with the sense that scheduling problems are the only thing keeping tennis from being as popular as golf will backfire.

Dunlop.
why not an MS event, a week and then a GS?

Speaking of five setters, just want to share with you guys my little story of the '06 Federer-Nadal Rome final:

I kept track of the first part of the match at home by watching the little The Rome Mas6ers site scoreboard. Then I headed out for a trip to my sister's house in Sacramento (approx 2 hr drive). I kept checking in with my husband on my cell phone while driving up there. Needless to say, I drove him nuts, but the match was so good that he watched the little Rome scoreboard throughout the entire match (and he is NOT a big tennis fan). I had to stop at Target in Sacramento and get a gift for my sister, and he would periodically call and tell me the the score. He didn't really care if Rafa or Fed won, but he knew I wanted Rafa to win.

Long story short, as you all know, the match went back and forth, and we finally gave up completely when Rafa was down in the 5th set tiebreak. I get back in my car after about an hour of shopping thinking that Fed had Rafa's number and beat him on clay. My husband called just as I was pulling in my sister's driveway and told me that Rafa had come back and won the match. He was so excited that he was practically yelling ... and this was from a die-hard basketball fan watching a little tennis scoreboard.

We watched the match a few weeks later on DVD and re-lived our whole cell phone adventure. It was great!

(BTW, I've since stopped talking on my cell phone while driving, at least on the freeway.

(I wrote the comment below on the UnderFed thread and then discovered that I couldn't post it there, so here it is!)

There's nothing wrong or politically incorrect about liking or not liking any sport or the male or female version of a sport. What is always wrong -- and rather silly -- is making sweeping or dire statements about the state of any sport based on what is going on at some specific date or year in time.

When the USA, with Venus and Serena, played FC in New England(can't remember the town) some years ago, the place sold out as quickly as the Winston-Salem venue did for DC a few weeks ago. And, I don't remember too many empty seats or "sacrifice sales" of tickets in 2005 in Delray Beach when V&S and the USA were scheduled to play the same type of depleted Belgian team. (Serena was there in uniform both days, but she was advised by Zina not to play and aggravate her chronic knee problem.) So, as usual, I'll just accept things as they are right now (with a "that's life" shrug) and begin to worry only if things NEVER changed!

I just wish that the doubles match was played third (as in DC) so that if the USA did win the tie by winning the first two singles (with V&S) and the doubles, they would feel OK about giving at least one of the other players (like Vania King or Lisa Raymond) a chance to play a singles FC match. As things are now, they might feel that it would be insulting to the Belgian team to put in a lesser player for the third singles match when the result of the tie was still -- technically -- in doubt.

OK, time to hand over the computer to another hotel guest.

highpockets- great story- sports fans will "watch" sports when there is high drama and good action-see that American TV - we don't have to be shown an American to know when we are seeing good stuff. and glad you don't talk and drive anymore - be safe.
DM - you make so much sense. There is just not enough time to make the idea of the warmup series' work. It sure sounded like a great plan - but I don't see how it could happen - unless some TD's somewhere would be willing to give up their weeks - and that has about as much chance as a snowball in hell.So we fans are left with the same dilemna and can only hope that the tournaments we enjoy and can see in person are not the ones that get the axe. Like I said before - I am glad I am not the one to make those decisions.

DM - I've thought I need to simply get a calendar and plot out the tournaments to see what is feasible. You took a less specific but equally valid route to simply look at numbers. And it aint pretty.

Not your analysis of course, but the reality.

I think i'll probably find a calendar and do the work, just because i'm woefully unable to make any substantive contributions to this conversation, other than to say, 'its tough, wouldn't want to do it, people are going to be p-ssed'. But good job just pointing in very broad strokes how difficult changing the calendar will be. "Calendar-change-for-dummies"

Good practice over here is to promote the tournament and the players. Eurosport and Sky do a great job. We don't need all the hype about series IMO, just a chance to watch matches.

Take Monte Carlo: billed on TV listings, in advance, presenters show something of the city, interviews with players, discussion in studio before and after each match, teams of 2 commentators alternate. Interactive up to the QF means I can choose main match on Court Centrale with or without commentary, or the match on Court des Princes, or watch all the TMS Finals' highlights, check the draw and results. Highlights for 2 hours each evening.

Other ATP/WTA tournaments shown regularly, though not interactive. Plenty of chances to see many different players and learn about them.

The point is that tennis is on offer pretty regularly - even got live coverage from the Family Circle Cup (what is it with those massive couches and cushions for the players - ugh!) If Eurosport and Sky spend good money on getting TV coverage from all over the world, why can't the States? Back it up with good press publicity and keep hammering away?

Tennis is global, and visually satisfying, with a nice dose of cultural education thrown in.

Totally random OT item: The BBC weekly quiz (on odd items in the week's news) included an item on Japanese high-tech toilets on which the manufacturer is offering repairs/refunds because they catch on fire and can burn your rear end: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6559373.stm
I was irresistably reminded of Federer's Tokyo blog last year when he was so fascinated by the Japanese toilet technology.

Another thought. PGA tournaments build up nicely over 4 days - are the networks demanding that viewers need to see a series and a structure before the Majors so they won't televise these? Of course not.

Tennis tournaments build up nicely over 5 or 6 days and the QF on, as someone suggested, can provide the main target for promoting the event on TV. It's tournaments that need promoting, not series, or build up to a Slam. The Slams are big enough on their own.


Here's a EUROSPORT 2 Wta tv commercial that aired this year. It looks great, and please note how they used 5 different players here, and it's a "we" that they focus, the tour/tournaments not certain so called big stars.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDyUYan09LU

hey you guys, I love watching tennis videos on youtube but I think I've watched all the good ones. Any suggestions??

Dunlop your 6:33pm post.

I agree with you that there are no many weeks left in a year for a top-five player. If you add Davis Cup's commintments and one or two minor tournaments, the player comes short of time. That is why I wrote in the "no room for status for quo" that Federer has given a very important clue that has little to do with status or the amount of TMS tournaments. It has to do with how many matches a succesful player who wins tournaments has to play during a year.
If he says that 75 matches should be a fair amount for an elite tennis player, this means that he would only play the 4 GS (28 matches) + 7 TMS (35 matches) + 2 Davis Cup (6 matches) + 2 other tournaments like Basel and Dubai (10 matches), for obvious reasons. Total: 79 matches at best and 41 weeks if you don't count the YMS and another two weeks.

How the ATP wants to reward these achievements in points is the key to assure that succesful top-players who win tournaments, attend more events if "the money" is good enough. At Roger's or Rafa's level it would be more difficult because money is less important than staying injured-free.

It is up to the tournaments of any category to offer enough incentives as to secure a good draw. At the same time if only the top-twenty players are known to the public because the TV. coverage only shows at best highlights of a tournament, we are contemplating a vicious circle.

So I think that TV. coverage is crucial to create awareness of the young and coming players. We've seen in Europe Federer, Nadal, Gasquet, Monfils, Berdych, Murray, Djocovic etc. for years and it makes it very exciting to follow their development until they become great players.

If the ATP wants to have 10 or 15 TMS they only have to assure that they get TV coverage. This would also make the ranking race more exciting with a more balanced difference in points.

Off-topic for Zola:

I feel some demand for justice in your recent posts on Berdych, so let me suggest to you that he really punishes himself. Had he be able to cope with his enormous passion he would win at least one GS (USO) every year :-) He would be outstanding GS contender.

'morning. Anyone watching the semifinals?

I'd like to point out that last year I was scoreboard watching. this year I'm on my couch - watching live tennis on TTC. THAT is an enormous improvement. More than anything, having LIVE tv is what will increase tennis's visibility. ESPN's taped coverage of limited players doesn't cut it in this day and age.

As Marion and Roger pointed out - in Europe - there's significantly more tv coverage available, and the 'young guns' are shown - not just the 'stars'. That's also key in growing the game, and taking some of the pressure off the 'top' players being 'required' at tourneys for them to be a success.

*off to find caffeine*

Morning JB - watching on-line - just rolled out of bed

where do you watch online?

Hey Flyer - *waves*

I've settled back with my traditional tennis breakfast of diet pepsi and cheetos.

what's the ump saying? nice combo from JC. ahhh - guess the VIP's are too noisy .

"Blank" - paid for year's subscription to ATP live - has worked out really great - you can also buy a day.

My breakfast: coke & chiken sandwitch w/oilives & chips

Good breakfast Flyer!

eesh. Fed down 15 - 40. he's got to protect his service games better.

Crap - there will go my breakfast if Federer gets broken here - I'm a terribly nervous fan...

What has happened to his service games - they use to be rock solid - no matter the surface...

anonymous poster, i'm watching the ttc channel online at tvuplayer. try tvu.com. sorry, can't remember the website. somebody posted it online over the previous ot thread.

lol Flyer. I'm the same way. Do a good bit of pacing in tight matches....

Sigh. Fed misfiring on his shots - timing a bit off. These VIP's are so freakin' noisy, not fair to the players to keep starting and stopping.

ack. he needs to NOT try for thos smashes, as he's missed a few too many of them for my liking.

Well, the good news is his 1st serve % is up to 71% - but the UFE's are mounting. He just needs to tighten up his timing a wee bit.

Juanqui came out playing very well. quite steady, and that's been the key.

He needs to take his time a bit & consrtuct the points.

I also pace - and run outside - into the bathroom - up & down the stairs - I' great at handling tension huh?

NOW BREAK HIM >>>> an HOLD Roger

Takes big breath - helps to do that once every 5 minutes or so...

Very nice break. all 4 points played beautifully!

Laundrey. I do a lot of laundrey as folding gives me something to do!

Yes - good tactic JB - accomplish something as you're having a breakdown if your guy is struggeling

Well, that's better Roger. The switch flipped.

I have a question - who is that other woman sitting beside Mirka?

Unfortunately - he doesn't even have to be struggling and I'm nervous!!!

OK - serving for the set....

I don't know Allie - I'm not sure I've seen her before.

jb - I remember she was in Miami, too - at least when he lost to canas.

Morning! Nice first set. I wish I could see the ball better, though. I think I'm doing permanent damage to my eyes while trying to watch MC.

Allez Roger!

Well - came back from my walkabout - OK - stay sharp now for the next set - no let down....

It is a beautiful settung though isn't it?

Some day - some day I'd love to be there...

Wow - commentator just said fed hit winners on 9 out of 11 shots. Yep - he still gets streaky - devastatingly so.

morning all

I agree with you, Flyer. MC looks gorgeous. *sigh* Someday... :)

Ha! That's funny - a shot of Berdych's coach. Thinks he's making it to tomorrow does he?

I like the touch of green stripe down the center of the white ones - now after such an important aside - hold serve so I can have seconds for breakfast....

Yup, Flyer - easily the most beautiful setting in tennis.

Well Tari - maybe some day we'll both make it - perhaps it just takes planning??

hey ptenis!

Berdych / rafa should be an interesting matchup on clay. How do you scout TMF though?

We should all start an MC pool - save a bit every month - then who knows - we could be sitting there clicking glasses & irritating the players.....one way to get a close-up eh?

I dunno...but I have a feeling rafa's going to bludgeon him- he's just been playing soooo well here. I fear for Fed, a bit, actually. I'm going to be wreck tomorrow if Match X happens...

morning all !
yesturday i went to dinner to some friends i left rafa in the middle of his match ! only because i truly believe kholsomething had no chances after looking at the 1st set.
yesturday, the guys were commenting on the MC HG issue, and they said that the euro tourneys represent 65% of the tennis turnover, well it's a lot considering 33 out of 65 are held in europe.
this includes :
2 slams
4 MS
4 Golds series
24 I series
if we compare to america (N&S)19 tournaments
1 slam
4 MS
2 Golds series
12 I series
and Asia and rest of the world : 13
1 slam
1 MC
2 Gold series
9 I series

Europe has a big advantage in terms of numbers, if i have a little more time i will check which tourneys have been added recently or supressed...
i'm sure the US have lost some tourneys in favor of asia and since the begining of the open era, and the holes in the calendar have been fullfiled with more tournaments.

tennis has allways been a "business" between europe and the US, and OZ, it wasn't perfect in the past, and i just can't see how the new changes promoted by an asian MS and a new combined event will make things better, because the schedule will be just the same, changing locations won't mean a thing !

ok, enough fed is smoking juanqui... the last 4 games in the 1st set, pretty amizing tennis...
in the begining of the match fed was annoyed by the VIP's lunching and making noise with their silver forks ;)
those unmannered spoiled new rich ;)

Definitely planning is essential, Flyer...along with time, and...oh yes, lots of $$. :) When I go to MC, I'll not be on a budget!

Oh, and I love the shirt as well. I think it accentuates Roger's broad shoulders.

(morning, ptenisnet)

Count me in Flyer! Be much more civilzed to watch in the afternoon in the sun then at these gosh-forsaken hours of the am! (Though thank goodness the weekend matches start a little later!)

I was tired by the end of the week...!

Sweet idea, Flyer. So far, meeting TW friends has been amazing.

OK - just please win this in 2 - so I can relax & enjoy the next match for pure sports enjoyment

I love that Roger seems to be using the drop shot more often.

It must have been great to meet some of the gang! I'm in the NYC area (Jersey to be exact) but cannot get to the drinks & dinner thing coming up - maybe next time...

Yes, the droppah is good to see, but Ferrero isn't a very aggressive player - not the best prep for tomorrow...

Hope you make it to the USO middle weekend, Flyer. That get together next week is going to be so fun! I'm jealous. :P

Yeah, Allie. Not necessarily good prep, but Roger knows how to play Rafa by now, don't you think? I like to think so.

Hmm - cool sneakers - first time I've seen his "logo"

Tari- I hope so.

Rog also seems to be really far back from the baseline in rallies - or is it just me?

Interesting. About the symbol on Fed's shoes. I thought the little bull on Rafa's sneakers was a bit much when I first saw it, but now that I've seen the "Fed crest" on Roger's, I think they're having fun with it. Cute. And I was being petty, resenting that little bull, btw... :)

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