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New Life for the Dead: The Picks Game 05/31/2007 - 4:48 PM

TennisWorld took a big hit in the TAT Suicide Pool in the last two days, but don't be discouraged, Tribe. A few soldiers are still bearing the standard, and we're not out of it yet. And for those of you who bit the dust, or wish you had played, or remember how one of our ranking Wiseman, Andrew, tracked the predictions made by Tribsters in Rome and Hamburg, I have great news.

While we will continue to post the results of our SP contestants, we are also launching - as of the Round of 32 - a more formal "Picks Game" for the duration of Roland Garros. I asked Andrew to write up a summary of the rules and regs. He prefaced his comments with this rousing, Iron-John-ish call to arms, aimed at TW's male readers: Dudes, you need to step up for this one.  Chicas have ruled so far - Highpockets (aka Madame 'Pockets) was a runaway winner in Rome, and Snoo Foo blitzed in Hamburg.

Then, in typically comprehensive Andrew fashion, he sent me this link should you like to do a little leisurely research on what he blithely describes as "a great introduction to applied behavioral economics and game theory."  That's what I love bout Andrew, he says that kind of thing the way some people say, Hey, check those pictures of Lindsay Lohan passed out in her SUV in the Post!

But, as Andrew wrote: "For most of us, game theory is about getting to four by two clear, so you can skip the heavy stuff (unless it's raining hard at RG and they're showing Sharapova for the 10th time) and just concentrate on getting the future right.  Piece of cake, eh?"

Say whhhaattt?
Anyway, if you decide to skip the heavy stuff, here's how the Picks Game will work:
1) Picks can be for either Mens or Womens Singles competition, or both.
2) Picks will be compiled from R32 (Third Round) onwards, starting Friday.
3) You are not obliged to pick any round, match, or set of matches. If you just want to pick men, or women, that's fine too.
4) From R32 onwards, there will be 31 matches (in total)  in each tournament. To be counted towards the overall top picker for either tournament, you will need to have made at least 15 picks (i.e., R16 onwards, or a mixture of R32 and the later rounds). Be warned: the winner will be selected on the basis of percentage (12 of 15) of correct picks, rather than sheer number of correct picks (34 of 64). And you must pick the minimum number in each division to be eligible - that is, seven men's matches and eight women's won't qualify. You need to pick 15 men and/or 15 women.
5) This is important folks: One difficulty during prior tournaments has been the way we've posted picks - picks would be embedded in posts, people would use nicknames, (Kolya, Nanner etc).  This has driven Andrew to the brink of insanity (not that anyone could tell the difference).  So, each day before a new round of play starts (32, 16, quarters, etc.) Andrew will post the schedule, as in:
Mens
Federer - Starace
Ferrero - Youzhny
Robredo - Tipsarevic
Womens
Henin - Santangelo
and so on.
To make picks, just go to "Comments" in the Picks Game entry where we post the schedule for the round in question, enter the names of the players in the match you're predicting (as above) and insert a numeral 1 (one) after the name of the player you're picking to win, all the way down the list. I suggest you choose the matches you want to pick (heck, you may want to sit out the entire Round of 32, although you probably lose out on a few gimmes if you choose to do so).

Make sure you use only the numeral 1. And please try to observe the spacing I've used immediately above and below. That is, a space between each word, numeral or punctuation mark. If you're shy about posting your picks in the Comments, you can email them to Andrew, just click on his screen name in any of his Comments at any thread.
Federer 1 - Starace
Ferrero - Youzhny 1
Robredo 1 - Tipsarevic

Or,
Henin 1 - Santangelo.
You get the picture.  Try to keep your picks in the relevant Picks Game entry. (Please don't post picks in an on-topic thread once I get to Paris, or the Mod Squad will go medieval on your picks).
6) Andrew will compile all picks posted before play starts in the matches picked.
7) As with the Hamburg tournament, any retirement for any reason is counted as a loss, but a withdrawal before a match begins is a no result.
8) Andrew will use reasonable discretion over any issues (for example, if a pick was made in time), but for the purposes of the game he'll have the right to make the final call.
9) We will publish statistics on Tribe picks and leader positions as the tournament continues, but we will not publish full results, knowing you wouldn't want to be seen in public with your gaudy 0-17 Round of 32 stats . . .
10) We will award a prize to the TW Roland Garros Picker of the Tournament (and no, it won't be Jet Boy!) in each category, as well as the overall champion, and a top upset pick.
The Round of 32 match-ups will be up shortly.  As of 4pm Eastern, there's three match ups undecided, but we thought you'd like to get picking while the picking's good.

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Posted by Beckham 05/31/2007 at 05:00 PM

What is this prize...is it say a trip to Wimby Final??? A trip to the US Open??? C'mon you have to tell us what the prize is. No????

I went out in flames thanks to Dulko who can't close out a 5-1 game and G-GL pfffttttt

That said...wohooo Andrew I'm alive in this new pool and of course I'm sticking with Fed all the way...lol...:)

Posted by Pete 05/31/2007 at 05:09 PM

Becks - after the SP, you would PAY to play.

Posted by mmmm8 05/31/2007 at 05:26 PM

Is tennis prediction contests addiction treatable? Betty Ford? Anyone?

Posted by mmmm8 05/31/2007 at 05:26 PM

Is tennis prediction contests addiction treatable? Betty Ford?

Posted by mmmm8 05/31/2007 at 05:27 PM

sorry for the double post

Posted by patrick 05/31/2007 at 05:47 PM

Andrew,
Thank you for new life after bummimg out on the women SP earlier. Will make picks later today.

Posted by Beckham 05/31/2007 at 06:13 PM

Pete: lol...haven't you heard you should not kick a gal when she's down...

Posted by Ray Stonada 05/31/2007 at 06:59 PM

Andrew (back from playing tennis):

I agree with Ryan and Temes. The *only* way to determine quality of play is to use the games own standards.

Even in your soccer example, to me, the "lucky" winning team played better. They maximized their opportunity and, more importantly, the losing team failed to convert ANY of their opportunities, which is much more important than creating them. Ergo, they played worse.

In tennis, what other standard can there be by which to measure quality of play? Pace? Spin? Prettiness of shot? Those are subjective, while the winner is not. Which is what makes sports sports. To me, winning is the only possible determiner of which player or team played better in a given matchup.

Posted by Andrew 05/31/2007 at 07:11 PM

Ray - I'll follow up on this later in an off topic thread. Going to stay on the Picks Game, rules and queries, for this one.

Posted by GSte 05/31/2007 at 07:18 PM

I'm ready Andrew, and determined to beat out Snoo Foo and highpockets! I'm sure you read my 3rd place speech a few weeks ago.

Posted by Beckham 05/31/2007 at 07:33 PM

Gste: ahem cough ahem Beckham was second place and not highpockets...lol...

And just so you know your'e going down once again...Howz that for trash talking....:)

Posted by patrick 05/31/2007 at 08:28 PM

Congrats to LaBoheme and Lilly Potter for staying alive in both pools.

Darn that TAT record setter Alona Bondarenko

Posted by GSte 05/31/2007 at 08:33 PM

oops sorry Beckham, I guess your "almost victory" was too obscure to remember! I'll make you obscure again after this contest lol! oh it's on Beckham!

Posted by jb 05/31/2007 at 09:06 PM

ok - I'm home and rarin' to go! Just let me at that post! Unfortunately, I am going off for a scenic weekend away - to my alma mater! As soon as I realized I wrote the incorrect dates in my calendar - i started wiggin' about the tourney, and then about posting my picks!

Andrew - I may be wandering about worcester ma, looking for an internet cafe to post. I have high hopes that if I bring my computer and a cable - I can access the college's internet. (we'll see.....)

Mind you - my men friends are worried about 'will there be enough beer'. My women friends are worried about 'gawd, what do i wear'. I am worried about 'how will I follow along? can i make picks? how many matches will miss? how early can i leave on sunday?'

one of these things is NOT like the other. Er, mmmm8 - and takers on a 12 step program for tennis/TW addicts?

*trots off to read the other posts*

Posted by Beckham 05/31/2007 at 09:21 PM

Gste: what??? I am not obscure darn it...I am sooooo not obscure...ask the Rafa fans that were after me...how obscure can I be if I am wanted...lol...take that back...take that back right now :)

Posted by randomtester 06/01/2007 at 01:10 AM

Is there something wrong with the "21 minus 1 club" post?

Posted by ptenisnet 06/01/2007 at 02:05 AM

seems to load fine for me.

Posted by lilly potter 06/01/2007 at 02:55 AM

Patrick: thanks. I didn't go for Bondarenko just becouse I wanted to save her for later:) OMG

Posted by Pete 06/01/2007 at 05:23 AM

JB - WiFi is like mother's milk on campuses these days, although of course that would be even for the suddenly arrived hordes of lactose intolerant. . .

Posted by randomtester [K]ProStaff 06/01/2007 at 10:02 AM

...for some reason I cannot post comments on the "21 minus 1" club post. I thought I got to be the first to comment on it yesterday, that pole position is still up for grabs!


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