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Posted 07/24/2007 @ 7 :25 AM

[I hope you all enjoy this report from Stuttgart by our own Rosangel. I'll be back with a post later in the day - Great job, Rosia! . . . PB]

A multiple choice question follows:

You are in Stuttgart at Tennis Club Weissenhof, watching the 2007 singles final between Rafael Nadal and Stanislas Wawrinka. Your flight home closes boarding at 6.55 pm, and you have been told that you need to get to the airport by 6.15 pm at the latest, to guarantee that the gate won’t close before you get there. But. . .

The start of the final was delayed until 3.30 pm because the German Grand Prix was being televised, so your travel plans depend on Rafa wrapping up the final in two sets - you are relying on it, in fact. Tomorrow is a work day, so you have no margin for error: You must get home. The only other way to get to London tonight is via Frankfurt, and that flight leaves Stuttgart a mere 10 minutes after the direct one. It takes 30 minutes by taxi to get to the airport from the tennis club; your taxi is booked for the latest sensible time - 5.45pm.

As that fateful moment approaches, it is still not clear who will take the second set, as Wawrinka is leading  with a break. Raf_stuttgart3Do you:

(a) Hotfoot it out at 5.40 pm, during a changeover, so as not to miss your taxi or your flight?

(b) Wait to see who will take the second set, planning a mad dash afterwards for the waiting taxi regardless of the outcome? (You have already called the driver at 5.45 pm to say that you are coming, but a little late, and have reassured him that you will pay him for his time, and tip him even more generously than you did earlier in the day, especially if he can get you to the airport quickly)?

(c) Decide that you will have to stay until the end regardless of how long the match takes, as the day still might include a never-before-witnessed-
in-person
trophy-biting moment, which means that maybe you can't even leave right after the final point is played? 

You are, of course, ready to go and pay off the driver (you know he’s only thirty yards away as you've already scouted the quick-escape exit) in between sets two and three - in the event that Stan takes the second. Of course, that would leave you free to return to the court for more. . .

On the middle Saturday during Roland Garros, I stayed right until the end of Rafa's match against Albert Montanes. Rafa never looked like losing (my friend left half an hour before I did), but I ended up missing not only the last Eurostar, but the last possible flight home.

On Sunday, therefore, that particular embarrassment was at the forefront of my mind.

Naturally, I dismissed all such petty concerns - I was prepared to go the distance if necessary. Rafa found a way through and won before 6 pm, but I waited to see the presentations. I'd struggled through the sardine-can crush horror that was Heathrow on Saturday morning, the day after unprecedented flash floods in southern England had left thousands stranded there, with multiple plane delays and cancellations, including mine. This, just to get to the semi-final against the fearsome F-Lo (Feliciano Lopez). How, then, could I fail to see the final through to its ceremonial conclusion?

Eventually I tore myself away at 6.20 pm. It was a hair-raising journey out to the airport. Maybe my waiting driver had been watching the German Grand Prix earlier in the afternoon; the amount of centripetal force felt during some of his racing spirals out of motorway exits was alarming, to say the least. Upon arrival at the airport, I gave him every Euro I had left in my purse; he was simply heroic in his dedication to customer service. After sprinting through the airport, I just made it to the boarding gate as it was closing, even after having my cameras thoroughly taken apart and checked over by Airport Security in case they were explosive devices in disguise.

Even while my internal decision-making drama was going on, I couldn’t help noticing the seemingly small things that, added together, allowed Rafa to suddenly look in control, and then to reel off five straight games from 2-5 down, to take the match.

Perhaps that’s why I hung on – once he had achieved momentum, I became sure that he would take the set after all, and I'd still be in with a fighting chance of getting home. Stan, serving for the set at 5-3, looked nervous. He double-faulted, to groans from the crowd. He did it again later, too. In 2007, even taking a set from Rafa on clay must be more than most players expect to do – he’s lost just five sets this clay season, of 75 played. and three of those were to that other Swiss guy - you know, the world number one.

There were a couple of specific shots that seemed to give Rafa an extra boost in coming from behind – an outrageous get, racing from behind the baseline to near the net, and a very solid overhead that he smashed away. I think there was also a drop shot that helped him hold serve when he looked as though he might go down 1-5. That was the Rafa I was hoping to see.

In many ways the set reminded me of the second set of the Rafa versus F-Lo semi-final match, after the first-set breadstick. The latter was ahead for most of it, but towards the end couldn’t maintain the pressure, or his high level of play, and made some nervy errors; the 7-5 second-set score was the same as for the final, and probably for the same reason – superior mental strength on the part of the winner, who increased his relentless focus to break, while the loser knew that he had to consistently go out of his comfort zone to pull off an upset.

Stan was a deserving finalist, and I think that although some of the ebb and flow was driven by errors, this particular match was appropriately tense and dramatic enough as a final – Rafa was a break down in both sets before recovering, while Stan definitely had his chances, and gave the crowd much to appreciate. The elegant Wawrinka backhand down the line was very effective, even off some of Rafa’s higher-bouncing topspin shots, and he was putting away some stunning forehand angled winners too.

I don’t know where Sunday’s Stan was during the Australian Open, where Rafa inflicted a routine  loss on him. I also couldn’t help wondering what the scoreline might have been, had these two played earlier this year in Davis Cup on the tricky Taraflex carpet in Geneva - a surface that, ironically, was meant to be to Switzerland's advantage. You may recall that it put them both out of contention with injuries sustained during practice, before the tie began, and that Stan's was serious enough to have kept him off the tour for some time.

On Sunday’s evidence I’d say that clay is probably Stan’s best surface – his movement around the court isn’t exceptional, but he was able to stay with Rafa on the baseline in many exchanges, and win them outright, which delighted the crowd. His father is German, which brought him some additional support.Stan 

Rafa said in his on-court interview after the final that he had been very sad to lose the Wimbledon final, so it wasn't the easiest task for him to come back and win in Stuttgart, though clearly he was very happy to do so. He also indicated, in response to questioning, that his knee has not been causing him major problems, desipite the tenderness (similar to what surfaced during the Wimbledon final) that he felt during the Kohlschreiber match. The knee remained strapped on both Saturday amd Sunday.

Rafa was asked (at least 15 minutes after I should have left) to drive his new white Mercedes (he said that it is for his uncle Toni) around the court – luckily, there were no electricity pylons or other hazards to test his much-ridiculed driving skills, and the host of photographers in attendance avoided being run over. I finally scrambled over a barrier behind me to get out before everyone else poured out, but not until the trophy had been bitten, and the air was full of the aroma of the champagne that had been sprayed by both finalists -  only partly at each other. I think some of the notables present may have needed to have their suits dry-cleaned. 

The club was an attractive venue for tennis. Apart from the pleasurable contrast between red clay and the deep blue hoardings surrounding the court, it was also possible to be very close to the players, for far less outlay than at Queen’s Club or Wimbledon, including the cost of flights. I was also able to experience the texture of the court, getting close enough to have red stains on my black suede shoes and in the crevices of my camera bag. I was delighted to be able to meet up with Annabelle on Saturday (honoured to be a TW First for her! And how is it that so many TW people are so good-looking?) Serendipitously,we were seated very close together. She has also provided us with some colour below about her visit:

"I had a wonderful day in at the Mercedes Open and meeting Rosia in person was certainly a highlight!

This was the first time I had ever seen a clay-court match live, professional or otherwise! The Tennis Club Weissenhof, home to the Mercedes Cup, is idyllically set out in the green, just a 5-minute tram ride from the city. We had to literally walk up the garden path to reach the main entrance, without hordes of humanity to follow, as happens at the Aussie Open. The entire grounds have a far more reserved and up-market atmosphere than any tournament I have attended in Australia, with the stadium creating an intimate setting, not unlike Kooyong. Our seats were so close to the action that we literally had our feet on the court! It's not quite how I imagined my "first time out on the clay" and am glad that I opted for black leather heels, rather than my previous choice of white ballerinas. 

The semi-final ticket cost the about the same as a five-day RLA pass (day 1-5) for the Aussie Open - welcome to Europe! Speaking of ridiculous prices, a trip to the Ladies cost 40 cents - going rate at other locations: 50 cents, so technically a bargain, really. Food however was pretty good and reasonably priced! Food stall attendants wore a stylish corporate black and white uniform. Bratwurst and other sausages were aplenty. Germans are not into eating/drinking food in their laps, and  prefer to down their beers and sip their champers at the designated tables and watch the match on the big screen, before popping back to their seats for more tennis action.

There were quite a few stalls selling tennis gear, and a cosmetics stand offering facials and manicures. I declined these freebies, but did manage to walk a away with a lovely goody bag of samples. It's not Garnier World, but the queue was considerably shorter – i.e. just me (everyone else had lined up to get Rafa's autograph a couple of tents down).

The on-court action was very enjoyable. Enthusiastic MCs gave funked up and creative biographies of players and chair umpires, and interviews with the players were conducted in English and German. Tennis-wise, in particular Stan's turn-around of the semi-final match against Chela was impressive. At one point Stan popped out for a bathroom break and took forever to return - perhaps the poor chap didn't have any change handy. Appearance wise, F-Lo is looking positively blokey these days with his new haircut, but his shiny, waxed legs are something else! F-Lo had plenty of reasons for random mutterings and grunts of despair during his semi with Rafa - a few of which provoked giggles from us in the front row. I strategically managed to hide mine underneath my cap and Rosia was well covered behind her camera.

Attending the Stuttgart tournament was a real treat and gave me a new found appreciation for clay and Rafa (well, coupled with Rosia's enthusiasm, that was inevitable!).

N.B.: Stuttgart had the best collection of good-looking lines judges I have ever seen - all gorgeous, young and sporty!"

I’ll wrap up by saying that although there was a great atmosphere for the final, the stadium was never full. There was a huge contrast between the numbers present at Rafa’s semi-final and the Chela-Wawrinka match that followed it, but after the final was over, it was the empty seats above me that facilitated my getaway before the crowds left in full force. This is in contrast to the tournaments that I have attended closer to home; it also made it a possible to get good tickets at short notice, for their face value. I saw some high-quality tennis – and not just the final. I’d recommend the tournament to anyone wanting a day out watching tennis – perhaps I’ll go again next time around, and hope to see even more of TW’s local contingent there!

[P.S. Here are the links for a selection of my photos taken at the weekend - of Rafa during his semi-final with F-Lo, Rafa during and after the final, and everyone else, (primarily Hott Sauce, F-Lo and Stan). To enlarge a picture, click on the thumbnail, and use the arrows to page through].

-- Rosangel (starring a blue-font contribution from Annabelle)

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Comments

I am but a lurker in these parts but I absorb it all. I enjoyed reading your account of the tennis and the ambience very much.
En passant, I have gained an insider's knowledge on the state of
F-Lo's legs!

I think Rafa is at a great stage in his career. If you look at his Wimbledon final, he was able to take Roger to 5 sets with two tie breakers on Roger's favorite surface. I think his game is advancing on the other surfaces. Right now I believe he's the #2 player, not only in the rankings, but on all the other surfaces. It will be interesting to see how he does on hardcourts. Go Justine!

Rosangel,
Good report as usual on the Stuttgart tourney with your guy winning it all, of course. However, making a decision whether to leave your guy in a tight 2nd set was difficult given your dilemma.

Annabelle,
Glad you enjoyed the tourney. Roddick returns to action today in Indianapolis,one of his favorite stops.

Ros!...its like actually talking to you! LOL....now to print you off and read it on my way into work...

Thanks for that entertaining report. Rosia congrats on finding such an intrepid taxi driver, were you in the backseat humming the theme from "Mission Impossible"...da da, da da, da da...

And thanks Annabelle...we Americans are so spoiled, generally we can pee for free.

Great post Pete. If it were me, I would have chosen choice B!
Thanks for pics Rosie.
Samantha-
I agree with you on Rafa. Unfortunately, Luke Jensen thinks the opposite. He believs Rafa has already reached his maximum potential and is on the downside of his career arc from now on. Like you said, the hardcourt season will tell us for sure.

Nadal is #1!

what a lovely entry, rosangel and annabelle, you could almost feel the excitement during the tourney, and also afterwards while you sped to catch your must-flight home.

i wish i could have hied off to stuttgart on a whim, seeing that i live only next door, but students have rather limited options available to them. live streaming kept me alive, though. :)

it would be nice to see you next year, indeed, if rafa does play stuttgart again! hopefully he would have won the wimbledon by then :)

Luke Jensen?

Wait...wasn't he the one who predicted that that Rafa was going to lose in the first round of Wimbledon against Fish?
With all due respect but that was a ridiculous prediction so I wouldn't put too much faith into what that man says about tennis.

Luke Jensen is an idiot!

Great commentary. One note, it was the European Grand Prix, not the German GP. It just happened to be held at the Nurburgring.

http://www.formula1.com/races/calendar.html

so glad rafa chose to play this tourney... to lift him out of the emotional rut he was in after that near-win at sw19... with a car to boot!

hope he takes good care of his knee now and that he can kick ass during the hard court season...

Thanks, Rosia!
I wonder if Rafa's emotional hangover has lasted a lot longer than he predicted. In his Wimbledon blog he claimed that he would be sad for the day and then be fine, but it sounds like it has been a bit hard to shake off the near win. The fact that he is so hard on himself and so desperate to keep improving and winning all of the top tournaments is exactly why Luke Jensen is wrong about him.

As long as Nadal keeps on punishing his knees with the kind of game he has (rarely wins a match without putting in a ton of work) he is going to continue to struggle on not very soft surfaces due to the fact that his game is not "economical" physically. I don't think the hard court season will give him good results as this is the toughest surface on the joints. Expect another Federer win at the US Open and TMC.

Thanks Rosia and Annabelle! Terrific report!

Nadal's not # 1 coz Fed's won 2 MAJORS this yr to his 1.

Ros: "C" was never in doubt I presume, just a tease...and those shorts in your pictures, well that is really quite puzzling still...and we had no video feed of the final so we still don't know if this was near wilanthropy on Rafa's part or warriorness by Stan, we all were dumbfounded watching the scoreboard on Sunday. Great reporting as usual.

Thanks ladies!

Wow next time before I kvetch about the cost of USO tix I will remember that the price includes unlimited toilet access.

Since I am trying to avoid going blind before the USO (or, ideally, at any time before my death), I'm no longer clicking on any links to Rosangel's Nanner pix.

There were several funny references to the F1 Grand Prix during the on-court interview after the final: the interviewer told Rafa he's the second Spaniard to have won today in Germany, after Fernando Alonso. Rafa was boyishly, unashamedly delighted at the news: "Fernando won? Really?!" (He's a huge fan of Alonso and follows Formula 1 passionately.) Then he remembered his "role as the ambassador of tennis" (well, perhaps an informal honorary consul, the ambassador being that Swiss Mr), so he proceeded answering in a more consular manner.
And later on, when the Mercedes Benz marketing manager (a blond lady who didn't miss the opportunity to kiss him heartily when presenting him with the car keys) buckled up in the passenger seat of the C-350 and Rafa started driving in a slow semi-cirle around the court (he carefully shook off clay from his shoes before entering the car, a well-mannered boy that he is), the interviewer commented into the mike: "Well, Alonso has nothing on him!" to the roars of laughter from the public. No electricity pylons this time, but when he came out of the car and approached the mike again, he suddenly dashed back to the car and leaned through its open window. He forgot to switch off the engine! Sexy and charming, and apparently can play tennis, too.

Fantastic account, Rosia! Really made me laugh. I'm so glad you got to see everything. I'll remember that seats are available... the next time that I happen to be in Stuttgart.

Nadal is not # 1 but sure will be. At Wimby it was much harder for him. Most of the commentators said that he won't get to the final but he did and he played a great match.So, Vamos Rafa!!!!!
Go Justine! Is she playing this week?

I love Rafa, but he's not #l because Roger is better and is clearly capable of winning 3 slams a year. A big shout out to Johansson. I normally cheer for Blake, but switching for loyalty reasons. Go Justine!

DMS: Wilanthropy on Rafa's part is technically impossible, as it would require him to be in a leading position, and give it away, whreas in both sets he came from behind to win - was also serving second in both sets, which meant that Stan had an extra game-cushion advantage when it came to breaks. What happened was that Stan played with aggression, as surely he knew he must, to have a chance of winning. Rafa's loss of service near the start of the second set was a poor game on his part - in fact I think that he double-faulted, maybe twice. As I mentioned, holding serve at 1-5 (I think there were four break points that he saved) seemed to boost his confidence (I don't doubt that he was thinking "I don't lose sets on clay to anyone who hasn't been ranked in the world Top Three"), while a couple more strong points from him made him look turbo-charged, after which the outcome seemed certain to this observer. Sometimes you can literally see the momentum shift in a match, and that game where he fought to hold for 2-5 was the beginning of the shift.

Rosia,

Now THAT is Wilanders to stay not till end of the match, but for postmatch events and then zoom to the airport. I can hear the Mission Impossible these as well (thanks rudy 3)....

what a wonderful post Rosia and Annabel. Through the few seconds I was able to watch Rafa's matches on sevenload, I thought this might be the best place to see Rafa ( and the lesser beings!) in action. such a cosy court.

I wish there was some coverage somewhere! Wawrinka certainly played great and I wanted to watch those moments. He made this an exciting final.


I agree with Samantha. Rafa is so hard working that it is scary. and Swiss Maestro, there is always a concern for rafa's health. But he is gradually making some changes .SO nothing is certain, other than the fact that tennis is much more ecxiting with Rafa and I sure hope to see him around for a looong time.

jenn said it best:
**The fact that he is so hard on himself and so desperate to keep improving and winning all of the top tournaments is exactly why Luke Jensen is wrong about him.**

thanks again Rosia and "blue-font" Annabelle, for this great report.


malimeda
thanks for those special funny moments. I didn't see the match so it was great to read all these details.

Rosangel,

This place would not be the same without you! Thanks for giving us your take on the whole experience in Stuttgart ... it was fascinating! I can imagine the tension you must have felt towards the end of the second set because I've been in sporting situtations like that before, when I wanted to beat the traffic, but wanted to stay in case something REALLY great happened. If it came to a match with Rafa, I think it would probably be a no-brainer for me too. I would prefer the torture afterward. I hope I get an opportunity see him up close and personal at IW this year (even if it's just on the practice court).

His come-back in the second set was pure Rafael Nadal ... pedal to the metal stuff. As Toni says, his greatest attribute is how he bears pressure.

Photos were astounding, as usual ... you were so close! Any further reporting on the grey shorts and their future for rear admirable coverage, the general aura of Rafa, and the audience response to him?

I have a feeling he is going to be much bigger in New York this year, as he's riding the crest of a wave right now. I just hope his knee and foot will hold up to the pounding of the hard courts, as he won't be able to slide to lessen the impact.

Anyway, thanks again, Rosia!

rosia, great report, you made me laugh with your "dilemas"...
like if i did not know how hard you end up that journey in RG ;)
oh my god, you just increase one more level on my addiction, i would love to drink some of the sparkling veuve clicquot on hummm, rafa... not ashamed yet ;)
awsome pics !!!
considering the high quality of your pictures, you shouldn't doubt to send them to getty pictures, and maybe next time you will enter a tournament for free as an official photografer !
you just need the accreditation before the tournaments begins...
go rosia for the free lance photographer of rear admirables !
the tittle rocks, no ?

anabelle, it's so nice to have rafaentusiastics all over the place ;)
flo has waxed legs, no kidding ??? do you have a pic ?
i've watched the match only yesturday, and stan played very well, but his served failed him and that was the key for rafa to come back, his bh is as beautifull and effective as youznhy, and his fh is good, a bit of consistency on his serves and he can challenge plenty of guys out there.
but rafa is monster rafa on clay, the more i watch him the more i think fed will never win RG IF rafa is the other guy, he has the strengh to step in and be pure agressiveness when down the score, it's freaky, you have the feeling that he will jump at your throat and bite you as hard as possible till you drop the point...
love his basic killer instinct ;)

vamos rafa on #1 for 2007 !

Ros: not to quibble with you but technically impossible?, how so?... remember Rafa was leading 1 set to nil in the match (although he was down within the first set, quite right) when he began his descent to being down 1-5 (going from a winning position to potentially making you miss your flight, no?)...and besides, he is Nadal, playing fed's dc practice partner for gosh sakes, on clay, so by definition any game deficit to him would seem on its face to me, wilanthropy, as by both stature and rank he is in a leading position. That said, perhaps we could agree the context I used it was too broad then.

"Sometimes you can literally see the momentum shift in a match"...very true, and I won't mention the last time in a match I witnessed it, out of respect for your feelings of course. LOL.

They have the entire championship match on sevenload now.

DMS
your last post is complete Fed-KAdism as you yourself put it. Nadal played with an injured knee and came back from 2-5 to win the match. Stan played superb tennis, maybe the best of his life. Rafa was not at his best level. yet his mental strength got him the match.

I have better examples of wilantrophy, when someone very high in rankings ( say the highest) has lost not once, but twice to someone much lower in rankings on a surface that favored him, not the underdog! THAT's wilantrophy!

Just when I start to feel a little sorry for Roddick, he goes and says this:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/24072007/3/roddick-rips-post-wimbledon-clay-atp-indy-seeds-fall.html

Veruca
thanks for the sevenload tip. off to see the match.! Maybe I can spot Rosia and Annabelle!

Annabelle,

Silly me! I meant to say how much I enjoyed your comments too. I think I got so wrapped up in the photos that I lost my head.

Veruca,

Thanks , I bring a quote here from the article you posted:

""It's not surprising to see us (Americans) here and the Europeans on clay," Roddick said. "But it feels like we're at least building for something while they may be just trying to stack up (ranking) points."

it is not surprising to me. Blake and Roddick did not participate in any clay court event in Europe prior to Rome and had the nerve to condemn Roger and Rafa and a bunch of other European players, for speaking out against downgrade of two clay court master series.

My question is:

what prevents Roddick and Blake from collecting points at home on hard courts?

I guess Roddick's answer will be:
If I can't collect points, no one should be able to!

Zola: really now girl, you must be nicer to me....LOL. If you speak of the pong matches...especially IW, yes, that would be a good example...you are such a jetboyKAD...but I still like you despite all your faults...LOL.

Wow, first Beth from LA and now Rosangel and Annabelle from Stuttgart, girls, you are our eyes and ears in the tennis courts all around the world!!!!!

Just for you, marieJ, here is some evidence on the F-Lo legs ;). Pictures taken at Annabelle's request.
http://homepage.mac.com/rosangel/F-Lo_legs/

DMS: he would have had to lose the match for it to be Wilanthropy, no? Near-Wilanthropy would have required him to be down in a deciding set. I would still have picked Rafa to win if there had been a decider - just a question of how long Stan could keep up his level. I like Wawrinka, by the way, and was truly pleased to see him play so well. Detaining Rafa on court for longer than usual is not necessarily a bad thing:) In fact, I I like it when he is challenged, because it often brings out his very best tennis. Luckily both Stan and F-Lo were able to provide some great moments of their own.

Actually Rafa wasn't down 1-5, but was within a point of being so. He held for 2-4 (not 2-5 as I said in my last post).

According to Mats Wilander in his term-coining analysis of RG 2006 RN d. RF, Rafa is the original many-Wilandered player. He doesn't do Wilanthropy. I love that "play every point" mentality. And that extra gear that makes him a champion. See, my view on Rafa is that his mind is his biggest match-winning weapon.

Was it in doubt that I would stay until the end at the cost of missing a plane? Well, it was a decision that I was hoping not to have to make. However, I didn't get to where I am today without taking a few risks or making a few awkward-to-explain decisions. For a sports fan, watching your man, woman or team win is always a special moment - it's the first Rafa final I've attended, and after Wimbledon I felt I needed a boost. Sometimes you have to use your head to know that your heart should rule in making certain decisions in life. Missing that plane would have been extremely inconvenient, but it's a problem I could have dealt with.

Regarding momentum shifts - well, I can recall another important match four weeks earlier than the unmentionable one, where I detected no momentum shift whatsoever, regardless of the second set:)

Wilanthropy is something like choking, BTW. I'd say that Stan was closest to that, when he served for the second set, which would have levelled the match.

What's wrong with Roddick's comments? He was ripped (rightly so) for skipping the European clay, so turnabout is fair play.

Ros: here goes a Wilandradmission (see mnp for def)...I am wrong, and I have not the Wilanders to argue with Mats on the who is the most endowed wilanderous one and whether said Mallorcan can ever do wilanthropy. Me knowest not that you consulted the prophet on this...ah, that second set, one can wish now.

Zola and Veruca Salt - I agree with you re Roddick's comments. Total, utter hypocrisy. If Roddick believes it is so important to "build toward something" with pre-Slam choices of tournaments, his butt should have been in Europe for 4-5 weeks in April and early May. Besides, name me a tennis player ranked anywhere who does not make tournament selection choices at least partially with an eye toward building some ranking points. Rafa took a month off last year after Wimbledon and it did not work well for him. I see nothing wrong with him getting the post-Wimby rust off at a nice tournament not too far from home where he can play on clay and not pound his body too much. Besides, he is a former champion there so his desire to return is understandable on many levels.

All of this is of course giving the comments more attention than they deserved!

...and don't they have trains in Europe anymore?

When does school start? sigh...................

.com
really good point.These inside reports are the main reason for my continued addiction to TW.

DMS,
I wouldn't have brought the two-time defeat up if you had not try to undermine Rafa's win in Stuttgart!! I could have done worse and post a link to a very nice picture of someone!LOL!

Robbyfan,
I am surprised at Ginepri record this year. Also, surprised that Robby lost yesterday after winning the first set at a tournament that he has played well the last 2 years.
But, Roddick is playing his match tonight. Maybe, he can win this tournament again.

Robbyfan, sorry about your boy. :( But the summer's just getting started. He'll get there.

"What's wrong with Roddick's comments? He was ripped (rightly so) for skipping the European clay, so turnabout is fair play."

Because if you say anything about Nadal that is in the slightest bit non-complementary, you will be hanged from the highest tree by people on this site.

patrick: I'm not surprised at Ginepri's record. He didn't do much in 2006 (best result was SF in Indy, I think). Not doing well in Indy doesn't bode well for him.

robbyfan: On the plus side for you, Roddick should so well at Indy.

It just goes to show that the much talked about USO series is not even close to there yet. It is still about the masters series and USO. There seems to be a US hardcourt build up and a European clay build up going on at the same time. Indy, with the top four seeds all from the US (or living in the US) and only two in the top 10 shows the top 20 is spread around the world.

These guys often disperse during times like this to a number of different tournaments to spread the money and ranking points around. Been going on for years. How else could a guy like Fish get a number four seed.

And if the USO series is really just masters and a slam, what does that say about the merit of building a FO series and a grass series? Perhaps the tour is simply to organic and more like a free marketplace than a firm schedule as exists in team sports.

Oops, meant should "do well".

"I strategically managed to hide mine underneath my cap and Rosia was well covered behind her camera."

Cute, Annabelle. :-)

DMS: Even if I had been able to get a train (and sure, I would have checked whether this was possible), I doubt very much that it would have reached Paris in time for me to catch the last Eurostar, which leaves just after 9pm. Been there, done that:)

Over the next nine months (US Open, TMC, Australian Open, etc.), we will see how far Nadal has actually come and whether he has any chance at Federer’s number one ranking this year. Btw, the 2008 Australian Open will be held on a new surface that’s similar to that of the US Open.

There was a brief period one year ago, after Nadal and Federer split the French Open and Wimbledon, when some predicted that Nadal would challenge Federer’s dominance in tennis and take over as number one. Eight months later, heading into the Indian Wells Masters in early March this year, no one talked much about the expected Federer-Nadal rivalry anymore, or even much about Nadal. Between French Open 2006 and Indian Wells 2007, Nadal failed to win even one tournament.

We’re back again at the same place one year later: Nadal has just come out of that part of the season where he gets most of his results and looks impressive. As for Stuttgart, it is probable that Nadal wanted to bag another guaranteed clay win before the uncertainty of the hard court and indoor season as well as to maximize his points from his best five International Series events. I agree with Roddick’s recent comments: "It's not surprising to see us (Americans) here and the Europeans on clay," Roddick said. "But it feels like we're at least building for something while they may be just trying to stack up (ranking) points." Though a tennis analysts could have said the same thing with more credibility without Roddick’s baggage on the clay season.

This year to date: Nadal has already played 14 events including Stuttgart (which gave Nadal 4680 points for the past seven months; in 2006, Nadal had 3675 pts in the same period) which is five more than Federer’s 9 events (which gave him 4005 points; last Fed had 5085 points). After all that extra effort and given Federer’s mini-slump, Nadal is still only 675 points ahead, in his war of attrition to pressure Federer. (I hope my calculations are correct)

If I am right, Federer merely has to win at least 680 or more points than Nadal does by the end of the year, while ensuring that at no point Nadal overtakes him in the past 12 month period, to remain both the number one for the year and in consecutive weeks. Federer has traditionally done well in the second half of the year every year after becoming number one, while Nadal’s record during this period has been less than stellar. As well, since Wimbledon 2006, Federer has beaten Nadal four times on different surfaces (two Wimbledon grass, TMC indoors, Hamburg clay, and not counting the Korean exhibition in November 2006) while Nadal has beaten him twice only on clay (Monte Carlo and French Open this year).

Of course, let’s see what Nadal actually does on hardcourts over the next few months.

What's wrong with Roddick's comments? He was ripped (rightly so) for skipping the European clay
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So you'd think he'd keep his mouth shut from now on. Guess not.

You know, sometimes I have to pinch myself in wonderment. I sit here at my little computer in Northern California, and I get to listen to the mental droppings of students (of every kind), world travelers, tennis pros, computer analysts, statisticians, journalists, PhD's, trust fund babies, and just regular folk ... people from all over the world discussing matters of great importance and matters of hardly any importance at all.

Is the Internet great or what?!

wow!
one Stuttgart title and so much reaction already!

Rafa,
whatever you are doing, you are on the right track!

Hey A-Rod played Rome - where he beat El Gato - and even got to the 3d round at Poertschwhatever which wasn't even a masters series. Although really it's kinda dumb of him to criticize since arguably he & his copains could have stuck it out a little longer on the red stuff and "built towards something," namely avoiding the dispiriting absence of us players beyond 2 of RG.

Sam - my problem with Roddick's comments is that coming from him they are hypocritical. Coming from another player depending on that player's history they may or may not have made sense. I don't think it is a huge deal to provoke outrage, just fodder for comments.

Grant - Can't speak for others, but I did not take Roddick's comments as a specific dig at Rafa at all. I just did not agree with the sentiment coming from him. I raised Rafa's sitaution as an example of why I believe there are valid reasons for still playing a clay court event this time of year. Its not as if those players in Stuttgart were skipping a hard court TMS.

Because if you say anything about Nadal that is in the slightest bit non-complementary, you will be hanged from the highest tree by people on this site.
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Where did you get that from? You must have TW mistaken for the ESPN boards. Rafa gets his share of ribbing, even from his own KADs. What we won't tolerate is mean spirited, unsubstantiated attacks. I myself called Rafa to carpet (*snort* like he was listening) about his decision to pull out of the Davis Cup match with the US. So no one player is safe here-that includes Roddick.

^I think I meant "day 2." Or maybe round 1. Something like that.^

Ros: if you think of another topic I can bring up that you can easily refute, please, don't hesitate :)...what is the homepage for you picture site btw, I need to browse a few pictures. Thanks.

ouch!! damn typepad decapitation, 2:25 was me


Rosia and Annabelle - really enjoyed your reports
and so glad you got to meet up and have some fun
Missie said the drive around the court was shown on the television in Spain - big news there!
Annabelle - hope Andy does well for you this week andyou get a chance to see him play.
now - back to check out those pictures

yup, it is hard being a ginepri fan. On another site that really lacks any credibility there was rumor mongering that robby is fighting a staff infection.

Not sure what is going on with him. I really have a gut feeling he is going to retire and leave the tour. He has always said he really really really wants to be a chef so maybe he is over the traveling and wants to settle down. I have nothing at all to base this suspicion on just seems he lacks the fight and motivation he once had.

And please allow me to apologize for posting that here and not on the ot blog. And further for not congratulating Rosangel and Annabelle on a wonderful post! Well done!

Anyone know of a live stream for Indianapolis?

snoo Foo
To me its allright if Roddick doesn't want to play on clay. But to "we are building toward something whracking up ranking points" is really funny.

look at his sentence:
"it feels like we're at least building for something while they may be just trying to stack up (ranking) points"

while Roddick is buildng up for something!! doesn't he get ranking points?

and again my main question:
there are 6 tournments on US hard courts . Here, at home. What prevents Roddick from participating in them and stacking up ranking points?

so, if he chooses to extend his legs in his home, no one else is allowed to "stack ranking points"?

Papo
if you are not in US, try one of the betting sites. they usually have the live streaming:
bwin.com
b365.com

sorry, that should be:

bet365.com

Veruca-
Ooooh, Andy's got me riled up after that article. Like you I was just beginning to feel sorry for him, but that pity party's officially over.
Andy shouldn't be talking. Don't the Americans hate spending one month in Europe during the clay season? Blake and Roddick didn't show up for Monte-Carlo, a masters series tourney. Personally, I see nothing difficult in staying in Monte-Carlo, Rome, and Paris. However, I do understand if Roger and Rafa don't want to be making stops in Indy, Washington D.C, New Haven, etc.
But I won't say much because last time I commented about this topic, someone seriously went after me calling me a disgrace, and what not. So I'll just end by saying, Andy can talk after he's beaten one of those European guys.

What prevents him from playing all 6 here? the knowledge that he would destroy his body before the big prize...the USO, would be my guess. He knows that the clay is much less hard on the body, so he is probably miffed.

Roddick didn't think much before speaking, which is what he sometimes does, and it's also what makes for some of the best press conferences ever. He's probably still a bit ticked off about his ribbing regarding the clay season and this was his way of throwing a little jab. He just tossed out this lame (but certainly not earth-shattering) comment. I don't think there will be any vibrations from it on European red clay.

Rafa's playing Stuttgart made total sense, as does Roddick playing Indianapolis. There's a ranking point difference of 75 points. Whoooop deeee dooooo!

Another Perspective: Right after Wimbledon, Andrew posted a lengthy statistical analysis about the chances of Rafa overtaking Roger based on various probabilities and scenarios. Because it was Andrew, it was very well thought out and much of it was over my head. But one of the main points was that Roger has a TON of points to defend in the second half of the season, whereas Rafa has very few, so even decent results will get him points, but any fall off from the unbelievable, nearly perfect second half that Roger had last year will lead to him going down. Because both player's second halfs were extreme (on opposite ends), it seems almost inevitable that they will meet a bit more in the middle during second half 07. But if Roger were to somehow lose early in one or two big tournments that he won last year and Rafa could win one or two big tournaments, the gap closes quickly. I am not predicting it, nor was Andrew, but Andrew said that statistically i tis not as far fetched as it once seemed. And Pete himself pointed out that had Rafa won that Wimby 5th set, all of a sudden the gap would start to look pretty narrow.

Robbyfan, that's interesting. Makes reality a bit more understandable. A motivated Robby isn't losing 2 and 1 in the last two sets to Berrer.

Jenn: Fair enough. My feeling is that the comments weren't a big deal, at worst hypocritical.

" ... if Rafa had won that Wimby 5th set, the gap would start looking pretty narrow."

Jenn, I bet Rafa wakes up every morning thinking that very thought, even though he may say otherwise. Those kind of losses are tough to bear. At least Roger only had to bear his big loss for about a month, although he'll get reminded of it again once the '08 clay season starts. This year is so deja vu.

Rosangel - as always - great photos
I did not mind the grey shorts, but I do prefer the white.

Zola, Thanks. I don't like sites that make you register, but if there's nothing else available I'll try it.

Beth, I know this probably isn't the place, but you said Missie liked Spanish food. What Spanish food in particular did she like?

Rosangel - I absolutely adore your photography skills! And thanks for your great report! My one wish would be to have at least a couple more photos of Feli though! ;)
Beth - Not sure you saw my post earlier - but THANKS for everything on Saturday. It was wonderful watching tennis with you! Missie is a lucky girl to be in Spain right now with what must be some nice-Nadal coverage... :)

There were no hardcourt tournaments in the US at the same time as the RG clay warmups in Europe. A-Rod's point, sour grapesish and lame as it may be, is that whatever he was doing this spring when he was skipping the rg buildup, he wasn't getting any points for it.

Highpockets, you're a gem. 2:47 was right on regarding Andy. And 2:18 was wonderful. While technology in general does little to float my boat, the internet is indeed a mind-blowing thing. To converse with all the amazing people here from different parts of the world, as you say, is truly an incredible experience.

He has always said he really really really wants to be a chef so maybe he is over the traveling and wants to settle down.

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Robby can cook for me anytime! *purr*

Jenn,
If Rafa had won that 5th set, he would have made a difference of 600 points in Rafa's favor. In Stuttgart he gained 250.

Rafa has about 800 points or less to defend till the end of the year. Roger has about 4000 points to defend . Roger has to reach the final of every tournament and win it ( like last year), to just keep his ranking points. He can only add to his points at cinci and paris.

However, If Rafa goes further than QF in USOpen or any other hardcourt event, he will gain points to close the gap.

I am more for wait and see rather than speculations. We have to se how Roger and Rafa play in this second part of hard court season. How Rafa's knee will hold up. Will Roger choose to play more tournaments, etc....

All in all will be an exciting hard court season with lots of pressure on Fed to defend his points and his ranking. He has done it before. So we will see how this year will go.

rosia tks for the legs ;)

another perspective : unless fed adds 2 more tournaments i see no way he can add 680 ranking points and this would mean
to play :
- DC play off to keep Switzerland in the world group one week after the USO
- next week bangkok or mumbai and win
- next week tokyo and defend the tittle
one week off and MS of madrid to defend tittle
following week defend tittle in basle
following week MS of paris best shot to collect 500pts
one week off and defend the MC tittle
tottal points to defend 250+250+500+750 : 1750
it means winning 6 tournaments + DC tie... and playing 7 weeks out of 10...
fed is huge but not that huge, if he doesn't lose anything it will be great, he can't go up winning back to back : madrid-basle and paris and the head for the MC...
a don't buy a minut that fed will add a tourney to his schedule unless he loses big at the USO and rafa shortens the gap winning some.
fed can win as much as last year but no more, or then i will have to say : chapeau bas Mr Federer !



DMS: my picture site is at:
http://web.mac.com/rosangel/iWeb/Tennis%20photos/Links%20to%20galleries.html

robbyfan: I have some liking for your boy, so hope he's OK. Was lucky enough to briefly see him at Queen's this year - I think there were a few pictures that I posted.

Personally, I suspect that whatever Andy Roddick said has been taken somewhat out of context. I also think it may tell us how much he cares about the US Open, which he is capable of winning (absent RF - but I thought Andy showed some Wilanders in losing last year in the final), versus Roland Garros, which, as far as I can see he, isn't capable of winning. While personally I weigh Roland Garros and the US Open in the same way, I can see why an American whose primary surface iis hardcourts would see it differently in his own mind. Plus, the US Open Series is more of an integrated entity in its promotions than the clay events preceding Roland Garros.

I hope Andy Roddick shows up in good form at the US Open. I happen to think that a strong performance from him, or a big win, in the second half of 2007, would be good for tennis in terms of competition. The same would be true of a few others I could name - Djokovic and Murray spring to mind. I also think that this second half is very important for James Blake.

French Open Fan-you are welcome - so sorry I did not respond right away - was going to just send you an email - but got busy - trying to schedule appliance repair and did not get the chance.Missie is loving the Nadal coverage - she said the news even showed him driving his new car around the stadium ! Look forward to more LA gatherings as well:)
Highpockets - she has not said anything specifically that she loved - just that the Mom of the family she is staying with is a terrfic cook and she loves it. She also said she picked up a Tapas cookbook - so we can try to make some of those when she comes home.

"I am more for wait and see rather than speculations."

Same here, zola.

Sherlock, thanks.

I think because I didn't have the Internet growing up, it's all the more amazing to me (much more so than to my son) ... perhaps like TV was to my parents.

Sam - I agree. I think Roddick's comments were unecessary coming from him especially, but really not a big deal at all. He was not specifically calling anyone out or anything, from what I could tell.

Highpockets - I totally agree that Rafa is still waking up every morning thinking about how if he had won one of the 4 breakpoints in the 5th set, things coujld be so different! Painful, but I hope with his mentality it will make him even hungrier to win. I can't wait to see if things play out that way. I am nervous about his knee on the hard courts. It will be pounded.

Snoo Foo
**There were no hardcourt tournaments in the US at the same time as the RG clay warmups in Europe. **

this is interesting. There are billions of hard court events on ATP tour. All Roddick has to do is to "PARTICIPATE"!

but maybe just for him, they should make one on the same week as RG.

"but maybe just for him, they should make one on the same week as RG."

LOL, zola. He'll probably get more points that way. :-)

A-Rod is a sensitive guy, let him vent a bit on this as he plays a fair share of the hardies during the summer and while he is not at Monte Carlo, he did do a couple of clay courts leading up to Paris. That seems as much as any of the other top 10...ok maybe not Koyla.

tapas book for missie... ahah !
my favorite tapas is tortilla (fried potatoes with egg) and fried calamar, and anchovys in oil and vinegar... and patatas bravas aka hot sauce potatoes are truly tasty... not tho mention the chorizo and spanish ham...
oh god i do miss it !!
i'm glad that missie is having a great time, btw where is she, by the sea side or in the heart of spain ?
i'm going there next week end not for holiday but for a funeral, very sad loss... i go to madrid on friday morning and come back on sunday, really tigh week end, and i guess it would be really difficult to fix a date, but who knows...

Oh - I hope someone youtube's the Rafa Mercedes driving...
Beth - Tapas is soo great! Missie is doing a good job soaking up the culture!
Rosangel - agree on all counts - especially this last 1/2 year for Blake... Gotta make his book "Breaking Back" mean something! :)

Rosia,

Nobody questions Nadal's mental toughness as I think it is his greatest asset. All I said is that his body takes a toll because of his style of play. You can't play on cement like you play on clay. He is the player with the most injuries in the last couple of years, what do you think this is due to? His game is not physically economical as Federer's and that is a fact.

As for the hardcourt season coming close to start, Nadal's vulnerability to flat ball hitters will be exposed as he gives these guys short balls back. What do the flat ball hitters have to do? Put it away with a drive or a good volley. Anyoce can recall Blake and Berdych in Madrid, Cincinnatti and Shaghai last year? or Youzhny in Dubai ealier this year?

I know you guys want Nadal to be at the top but for him to dethrone Federer is going to take not only a monumental effort from Nadal but also a significant amount of help from Roger.

french Open fanatic
this clip has some of it and Rafa's remarks about giving the car to uncle Toni:

"this one is for my uncle Toni. I already have the car from 2005. So, it is ompossible to have 3 cars. no? and my uncle wants to change his car, so this is perfect!"

http://www.mercedescup.de/fileadmin/MercedesCup/Media/MercedesCup-Day7-WMV.wmv

Swiss Maestro
**I know you guys want Nadal to be at the top but for him to dethrone Federer is going to take not only a monumental effort from Nadal but also a significant amount of help from Roger.
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Of course we hope Rafa to improve his hard court game. But we are also hopeful that Roger will help because of the early signs in IW and Miami and also because of the fact that "Anything that has a beginning has and end too" !

Well, if that don't beat all, Roddick criticizing someone for not showing up during the hardcourt. Talk about a hypocrite. Where was he during the European clay season? Also, it showed in his FO result, he was gone in the first round.

Hi all!

Rosia, I thoroughly enjoyed your account! :-)

Actually, this discussion about US versus "Europe" is a tempting one. Personally, I live in England, not Europe. But I flove Scotland, Wales, Ireland, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Belgium, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Portugal, Luxembourg, Andorra, Monaco, Holland, Poland, Hungary, Estonia, Serbia.....well, all the countries that make up the various entities that politicians call Europe. And have felt at home in all of them. I love the cultural diversity; don't love the idea of lumping all together without differentiation. But I must say that one of the wonderful things about Stuttgart was that I felt totally comfortable visiting there - just as comfortable as I do in England. I speak some German - limited if I need to understand things quickly, but it was enough to get me by, and everyone I spoke to was friendly and helpful. Especially the taxi drivers:) I hereby nominate my Sunday driver as Wilandriver of the day, and now wish that I had presented him with a RNKAS Tigger Award.

MarieJ- Missie spent the first 3 days in Madrid. Now she is in Salamanca , I am not sure - my geography is not so good - but I do not believe it is near the beach -although the trip organizers (through the university) encouraged them to bring swimsuits - because they have access to the university pool - and it is very hot over there right now.
I look forward to trying some of those recipes - they sound really good
just a funny note - Missie said she did a little shopping in Madrid to see if she could find a Real Madrid Beckham jersey - but apparently - they have been purged from the shelves. She said the shop owners could not understand why anyone would want one of those anymore .

Great article and absolutely great posting from everyone. I spend more time reading everyone's post than writing my own and it is always wonderful reading how kind and generous posters on this board is, keep up the good work guys.

Ps. I'm picking Rafa to win the US open series and the US open. (I know, I know, but its a big dream of mine.

Vamos Rafa and welld one this week

So Zola,

Are you going to say that you thought Nadal's days as the world's number 2 were about to be over because he performed so poorly during the hardcourt season in 2006? I don't think so...

Can you say now that Federer is having a bad year eventhough he has been to the final of the 3 majors so far winning 2 of them? I don't think so... Let's wait for the season to end and to see who ends up as the indesit numer 1 player of the year. Because maybe Nadal has 6 titles but just 1 slam while Federer has 4 titles, but 2 slams, think about it...

zola, which hardcourt tournaments were going on during the RG warmups that A-Rod could have participated in? Some challengers maybe? Although that wouldn't have been very sporting for the other dudes in the challenger but A-rod's not known for his good sportsmanship, at least not by me.

No disrespect but who cares????
The "real" clay season starts in Monte Carlo and ens @ Roland Garros. Stuttgart... what's that??? Another tourney that's main purpose is $$$.

Tennis could have a beeter schedule and even some kind of off-season if not 4 these miniscule tourneys that mean nothing.

Connors won 109 tourneys(Navratilova 167, Evert 157, Graf 100+), but who really cares if the don't have slams and #1 rankings 2 back it up.

After Wim it's masters(Canada & Cincinnati), then the US Open, everything else is just filler in my humble opinion.

Ok, not a A-Rod kad but...

Roddick's European clay court run up to FO=2, Rome, Poertschach
Federer's..... F0=3, MC, Rome, Hamburg

Why not all the crowing about Fed skipping tourneys?

Now someone else count the # of HC tourneys Roddick will do, vs Rafa and Fed, for us.

Now, you leave Andy alone. This is what he has to put up with from the Indy site: "Roddick will have to recover mentally from a Wimbledon quarter- final embarrassment". How very rude. Not sure that it's a great promo really.

http://www.tennisindy.com/IndyPreview.htm

Go Andy!

Can't count the Mutua Madrileña in Madrid, the Paris Bercy and the year ending championships in Shanghai out.