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Indy Crisis Center, 7.26 07/26/2007 - 11:00 AM

Some of you may have noticed, perusing this website, that it is frequented by quite a large contingent of sexist, shallow, cliquish, hormonally-driven and lustful tennis freaks to whom, it often seems, Hottness is all. And the men who read this blog aren' always all that high-minded, either. . . But let's leave them out of it for now.Frankie

Ladies, here's your chance to lay all your cards on the table. I am asking each of you to step up and submit your Hott 5, in order of Hottness (hottest guy at No. 1). Feel free to add a comment to each of your choices, but keep it brief. Oh, and you men, you can talk Federer's slice backhand or something. . .

We'll do this in honor of Frankie, aka Tire Boy, who took out Juan Del Potro yesterday in Indianapolis.  I am due back from Newfoundland Sunday night, so have a great weekend.


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Posted by Beth 07/27/2007 at 05:05 PM

anything exciting going on for anyone this weekend? Jake returns from Ireland tomorrow - I am very excited to be getting him home.
But I am bracing for all H*** to break lose - he can create havoc just with his arrival. It has been way too quiet here in my house without him.

Posted by Jenn 07/27/2007 at 05:06 PM

Beth - your LSU buddies are still bitter this day about the shared national title. The problem for them was that USC won the outright title the next season, so then it became USC "2-time national championships" and LSU was forgotten altogether.

I went to USC undergrad and UCLA for law school, but I never felt any split loyalties. It was difficult for me to feel any affection for UCLA other than the fact that I paid in-state tuition. But, if USC is not in the thick of things, and UCLA has the opportunity to do well such as in basketball 2 years ago (the Championship game) and when they won the Final 4 in 1994, I will root for them because it raises the profile of the Pac-10.

AmyLu - have you seen that commercial where the two people are on a blind date and the woman is driving and he asks her about her background and she says "I grew up in Michigan. Go Blue!" and he opens the door and leaps out of the moving car, rolls down the hill, and when he comes to a stop he yells at the car (which has stopped) "Go Buckeyes!" and the car peels away. So funny. That reminded me of you.

Posted by Beth 07/27/2007 at 05:11 PM

Jenn - yep that is what they are - bitter - I thought my worst nightmare was coming true last year - there was some talk of LSU to the Rose Bowl and they would have played then - that would have been hard for me - although I think USC would win that battle.
I love that commercial - funny - I always think of Amylu as well when I see it. Your loyaties are known far and wide, girl.

Posted by DMS 07/27/2007 at 05:12 PM

Sam: sorry about the blockage of the sites at work...you have homework then, right when you get home.LOL.

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 05:12 PM

DMS,

Awwww ... here's two hugs *hugs DMS twice* AND a cartwheel. I'm pretty sure I can still do one.

And I forgot to tell you that when I parked my car in the ramp in Chicago, the first level that had an open spot was called -- and I kid you not -- tangerine! It was meant to be. By the elevator there was a picture of a tangerine and the song "Tangerine" was playing. The sign said it was the original recording by the Jimmy Dorsey Orchestra. Must be from the 40s (?)

Sometimes it's the smallest things that can make your day! Other floors were called Purple Rain, Blue Suede Shoes and Being Green.

Posted by Beth 07/27/2007 at 05:12 PM

DMS - we must suggest IW - several tribe members are trying to head this way - shoot for the middle weekend!

Posted by Sam 07/27/2007 at 05:13 PM

Jenn: That commercial is hilarious!!!

Posted by AmyLu 07/27/2007 at 05:19 PM

Yes, I love that commercial, but the one I like even better is when two individuals wearing Ohio State and that school up North's clothing are making out on a couch and then it says only in sports is this disgusting...because honestly the first time I saw the commercial, I immediately thought how disgusting it was! :-)

Posted by DMS 07/27/2007 at 05:19 PM

Beth: yes, IW most likely as my guess the development work could be done by then, and Pete and a lot of the tribe seem to go to that one- you go I believe- would be a fun thing socially, on top of seeing the tennis.

Posted by DMS 07/27/2007 at 05:20 PM

Tangi: that is a sign indeed, you not talking about that multi-level parking garage (circular) that you can see from the Chicago River are you?

Posted by Jenn 07/27/2007 at 05:21 PM

I already told my husband that he is "stuck" (is that a mean way to put it?) with our little guy, Adrian, that middle weekend of IW so I can go out to the tournament. Adrian will be turning 3 right around that time. I have never been to IW - can't wait!

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 05:21 PM

Jenn,

I totally agree with your post! I did my undergrad at UW-Madison and got my graduate degree at Northwestern, but my loyalties lie with Madison. I think graduate school is such a different experience - your heart always stays with your first school.

But I will root for Northwestern if the Badgers aren't in contention. My brothers always taught me to root for my conference.

I've always wondered if other graduate students felt that way.

And, I love that commercial, too!

Posted by DMS 07/27/2007 at 05:25 PM

Tangi: Lake Monona terrace down to Lake Wingra bike/run path, through the neighborhoods along it, over to Lake Wingra, the zoo/park,.....LOL....and back, when done, hit state street...LOL.

Posted by AmyLu 07/27/2007 at 05:26 PM

There's live tennis on now! Mr. Dancevic is gracing my screen! :-)

tangi, I feel the same way. I am no-where near as connected to the UNC teams as I am to Penn State's. (And of course, Ohio State trumps both! :-) ). My friends that went to big schools for undergrad have a very similar relationship whereas my friends who went to small liberal-arts schools are really passionate UNC fans - much more so than the rest of us are. I do, however, root very passionately for UNC whenever they play Duke. That's one rivalry I have had ZERO trouble embracing.

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 05:27 PM

DMS,

No, I think you're referring to Marina Towers, a well-known Chicago landmark because of its odd shape. If I remember correctly, people also referred to the towers as "the corn cobs."

There are soooooo many parking garages ... and each has a different gimmick to help you remember which floor you parked on.

Posted by Celia 07/27/2007 at 05:28 PM

I'm back!
Beth- you didn't sound like a nagging mom(trust me, my mom naggs me about my social life way more than you do) and I took yours and Jenn's advice. There's a step aerobics class that I could join, but it already started and it's 16 and up, so I'm not sure if there are going to be anyone there my age, it may just be full of middle age women, but I (might) give it a try.

Posted by highpockets 07/27/2007 at 05:31 PM

You guys are going to love this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lrJg8NMsFw

Posted by Jenn 07/27/2007 at 05:35 PM

Celia - good for you! And I'll bet that there are more tennis players in your area than you think. Check it out via USTA or a local park with courts. That would be a fantastic thing for you to get involved in. Now leave your computer for awhile, girl!

Posted by Celia 07/27/2007 at 05:36 PM

If a guy ever said those things to my face, his face would get smashed in.

Posted by highpockets 07/27/2007 at 05:39 PM

Celia, that video is pretty much what it was like for women like my mom in the late 1940's, early 1950's ... it's funny, but it's also very creepy.

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 05:42 PM

DMS,

You hang out in Chicago AND Madison? Boy, you sure do get around! LOL! I've never been to Kansas City. You'll have to give me the highlights sometime.

Wow, are you bringing back memories. It took me a minute to realize you were talking about Madison & not Chicago! LOL!

I've never actually taken the bike path you mentioned. Most of the students took the Lakeshore Path over to Picnic Point along Lake Mendota (although never after dark -- bad news). It started by the student union (called Memorial Union). Have you ever sat out on the terrace there? One of the prettiest views in Madison. Spending summers in Madison was awesome -- the crowds were gone and it was very laid back.

Were you at the Lake Monona Terrace for a convention?

Posted by Celia 07/27/2007 at 05:43 PM

Jenn- I don't wanna!

Posted by Sherlock 07/27/2007 at 05:46 PM

Tangi, don't underestimate those beavers. When push comes to shove, they aren't backing down to your badgers. :)

DMS, don't worry. It was only a sympathy hug at the thought of my beavers getting mauled. And hey, you got two hugs AND a cartwheel. :)

Beth, I bet that was awkward a few years back. Yikes. With both consisent title contenders, I think the possibility is going to be there for a while, especially with no Pac-10/Big-10 Rose Bowl locks anymore.

AmyLu, I forgot...why did you end up at Penn St for undergrad again?

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 05:48 PM

Hi AmyLu,

That is so interesting what you said about your friends from small schools really getting fired up about the sports teams. I think it's because attending school on a big campus is such a different experience. Football Saturdays don't have the same energy at a small school. (I'm not dissing small schools, BTW. Sportswise, it's just different.)

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 05:55 PM

Hey Sherlock,

I love beavers; after all, they're part of the rodent family! And that Animal Planet special mentioned how beavers are celebrated/immortalized in Oregon via sports teams.

How old is your son and does he know you're secretly rooting against his team?

Posted by AmyLu 07/27/2007 at 05:56 PM

I grew up in Pennsylvania - and I discovered when I was looking at colleges that I wanted to go to a big school with a big athletic tradition. Too much of a sports-girl to imagine going to a school without a big sports program, particularly college football.

My parents told both my brother and me that they would pay for school beyond undergrad if we went to an in-state school for undergrad. I initially thought I wanted to go to law school so the prospect of someone paying for law school was very tempting. I also was accepted into Penn State's Honors College, which comes with a scholarship that pays half of your tuition, along with other perks.

I also was diagnosed with cancer my senior year of high school so the list of schools that matched my criteria - and were close enough to my house so that I could make it back quickly if medically necessary - pretty much limited me to Penn State. So everything added together pointed me towards State College, PA.

And, I really do love Penn State - I spent the four best years of my life there. I can't bring myself to root for them over Ohio State, but otherwise I'm very much a Nittany Lion.

Okay, that was long-winded, but there you go!

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 06:03 PM

AmyLu,

Wow, cancer in high school ... there must be quite a story there (which I would be interested in hearing, BTW.) So glad you seem to be well now! That must really change your perspective as a young person. I'll bet you were more mature than most of your classmates.

I'm confused about the Ohio State connection, though. If you went to Penn State (yeah Big Ten!) and UNC, where does OSU fit into this picture?

Posted by Sherlock 07/27/2007 at 06:05 PM

Ok, Tangi. We're cool then on the rodent battles. :)

My son is 13, and no, he has no idea. Shhhhhhh! But it's ok. I think he's slowly sliding towards the Beavers anyway. Watching two straight national baseball championships will do that. :)

And yes, I am bragging. I can't help it. :)

AmyLu, thanks for that. Great story. State College always seemed to me to be the perfect little college town. I was there once, just briefly. Cool place. Reminds me a lot of Corvallis, home of Oregon State, but PSU is a lot bigger.

Sorry to hear about the cancer, though. I hope everything is ok with that.

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 06:10 PM

Sherlock,

Do you live in Corvallis? A high school classmate of mine lives there and is always bugging me to come and visit. And since there were only 75 people in my graduating class, well a small world it is indeed.

Posted by patrick 07/27/2007 at 06:11 PM

Jamaican Girl,Andrea, and Mark,
Patty-Mirza will be a good match today with the winner facing Momma Bammer tomorrow. Mirza does have a history of playing well on the California swing but Patty results at Stanford are pretty good. Therefore, I see Patty in 3.

Posted by AmyLu 07/27/2007 at 06:13 PM

Thanks Sherlock and Tangi, and yes, everything is fine now. :-) I reached six years of remission in March and celebrated by going to Indian Wells! It was the first time I could go on a spring break trip as opposed to the hospital for tests and check-ups.

And Tangi, yes, my perspective changed quite a bit. In many respects I view it as a positive because I learned a lot about myself, and I had really supportive family and friends.

State College is an ideal college-town. I don't think I'd be that happy there for grad school - it seems to me like the perfect undergrad place (although maybe my perspective is skewed because I went there for undergrad).

Tangi, I grew up in a rabid Ohio State family. My grandfather taught there (my mom's dad), and my dad went there. So I grew up going to Ohio State games, and it was impossible to switch loyalties when I went to Penn State.

Posted by ptenisnet 07/27/2007 at 06:18 PM

hola tari

amylu, I am glad to hear it.

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 06:20 PM

AmyLu,

OK, so one more question ... why did you choose UNC over Ohio State for grad school? Does OSU not have a good law school?

LOL ... I'll bet when your dad was courting your mom the OSU connection to her dad didn't hurt his cause ...

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 06:23 PM

Sherlock,

Sorry ... you said you lived in Salem, not Corvallis. Are they anywhere near each other?

Posted by AmyLu 07/27/2007 at 06:28 PM

I am actually in grad school for Sociology (changed my mind about law school once my older brother went there - realized it wasn't my thing at all), and the hardest decision I made was turning down Ohio State in favor of UNC. UNC is ranked fourth, Ohio State about 20th (18 or 19) so both are good programs, and I loved both programs when I visited. Ultimately it came down to location, future prospects when going on the job market, and faculty - my advisor at UNC was the person I most wanted to work with. I think I about killed my dad when I picked UNC over Ohio State - although now he's clinging to the thought that I might get hired by Ohio State...they've hired several UNC grads in the past several years.

My parents actually met in 10th grade and dated all the way through college - they married right after they graduated. My mom went to Miami of Ohio - she refused to go to Ohio State because her dad taught there.

Posted by Sam 07/27/2007 at 06:29 PM

Thanks DMS - I've seen that pic before, but didn't mind seeing it again!

Posted by Beth 07/27/2007 at 06:34 PM

Celia - I think that class is a step in the right direction - and I bet there is a USTA in your area when you get the chance.
Amylu - now I am doubly sorry we did not connect last year in IW - I would have loved to be in your remission celebration ! I am so glad you are well and here with us now!
DMS _ yes - lots of folks turn up at IW so hope you can join us - and when the time comes - we will make a meeting place again.
Sherlock - it does seem like my two teams are gonna be near the top of the heap for a while - so I guess I will enjoy it while they are doing well - and just hope they don't run into each other.

Posted by Sam 07/27/2007 at 06:37 PM

"it's funny, but it's also very creepy."

That's a good description.

"If a guy ever said those things to my face, his face would get smashed in"

With or without a racquet? :-)

AmyLu: Sorry to hear about the cancer. Is it in remission?

Posted by DMS 07/27/2007 at 06:37 PM

Tangi: the joke with beckham is I am a trust fund baby, LOL, i goes lots of places...yes there every year in madison for conference in summer.

Posted by Beth 07/27/2007 at 06:38 PM

as an aside - when I was in college - LSU was not much of a power house - kind of a lull after Bert Jones graduated - so I am enjoying their success right now

Posted by Sam 07/27/2007 at 06:39 PM

"I had really supportive family and friends."

AmyLu: That's very important for helping get us through tough times like you experienced. I'm glad that you had a great support system.

Posted by Sam 07/27/2007 at 06:42 PM

AmyLu: Disregard my 6:37. My reading comprehension is in Friday mode! Glad to hear you've been in remission for 6+ years. Also, you have a wonderful perspective on life.

Posted by DMS 07/27/2007 at 06:42 PM

Amylu, sorry to hear that too (just reading the posts) but so glad to hear you are doing well.

Posted by Beth 07/27/2007 at 06:43 PM

that video is creepy - and like Highpockets said -it does apply to women of our mother's generation. sad but true.
But I had to laugh at the looks of the "college girls' - you guys should see some of the girls my son dates at school - they do not look like that!

Posted by DMS 07/27/2007 at 06:45 PM

Celia: yes, on the right path with that...you can also become a tutor, home field advantage for someone like yourself, you could show off!

Posted by Beth 07/27/2007 at 06:47 PM

good idea DMS - I was also going to suggest that with your passion for reading , Celia, your local library might need some volunteers in the children's or young people's section. A lot of times they have read a story kind of hours for little kids - and I bet you would be terrific.

Posted by AmyLu 07/27/2007 at 06:48 PM

Thanks Sam and Beth! :-)

And, Beth, seeing Rafa in white piratas in person made up for all the spring breaks that I missed in college!

Posted by Beth 07/27/2007 at 06:53 PM

that was a good celebration wasn't it !
but - spring break was fun too - not that I ever did anything like that

Posted by AmyLu 07/27/2007 at 06:54 PM

Celia, have you considered joining a book club? It might be a slightly older age-range than a teen one - but I bet you could find a book club with members around my age, and that might be something you'd really enjoy doing.

Okay, I officially hate rain. Not only is it preventing me from watching tennis, but it is now preventing me from playing tennis tonight with my friend.

Posted by Sherlock 07/27/2007 at 06:56 PM

Tangi, no problem. :) Salem and Corvallis are only about 45 minutes apart.

Posted by Jenn 07/27/2007 at 06:56 PM

AmyLu - let me also send my good wishes and happiness that things are going better with your health. What a cool way to celebrate by seeing Rafa win the IW title. After I graduated from law school and took the California Bar (what an ordeal - ugh, but certainly nothing compared to cancer), my present to myself was a trip to the 1998 US Open. I went to the tourney 14 straight days and stayed with a friend in Brooklyn. Awesome. I watched every match that Rafter played, including doubles, and I met some Aussies who invited me to his victory party in Manhattan.

I am looking forward to the IW TW meetup this year already.

Posted by Crazy-for-Rog 07/27/2007 at 07:01 PM

Quote by Liz ...
"I cried the day Stefan retired and didn't have a favorite male player for years. Until one day, I read a post retirement article by Edberg and he mentioned that he still followed tennis and there was this guy named Federer whose game he liked to watch. I had never even watched this guy named Federer play so I gave him a chance. I've been hooked on the Fed ever since....drool"


Wow, Liz ... This reads exactly like my story !!! I too absolutely adored Edberg, and I tuned off from tennis after he retired. It was many years later, and took a certain guy named Roger Federer, to revive my interest in tennis. Edberg was a stylish player and so is Federer, and their artistry is what made me admire them both.

They have one more thing in common ... totally HOT legs !!! I find them both very sexy !

I've never ever found Nadal sexy. Sure he's ripped and has a great muscular physique, and I'm sure a lot of women are turned on by that. But it does nothing for me. The entire package is missing something ... he's too much of a boy and not quite a man, for me.

Federer, on the other hand, is ALL MAN ... dark smouldering looks, the most expressive eyes I've ever seen (he reads like an open book), hairy all over (I want to bury my face in that furry chest), sophosticated, well dressed and well spoken, confident and vulnerable at the same time.

My top sexy list of current players:

1) Federer (of course !)
2) Safin
3) Roddick
4) Blake
5) Don't have anybody else to add

Past players ... definitely Stefan Edberg and Pat Rafter.

Posted by AmyLu 07/27/2007 at 07:02 PM

Jenn, that is such a cool story! I can't believe you got to go Rafter's victory party!

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 07:03 PM

Hi Jenn,

I was also at the '98 Open (last time I saw live tennis) for first 3 (maybe 4?) days.

14 straight days? Wow, that's unbelievable. You are my new hero. How long did you stay each day? Do you prefer early rounds or later rounds? Day or night sessions? Were you exhausted?

Posted by Celia 07/27/2007 at 07:08 PM

Sam-regarding your 6:37 post, wwhatever I had on hand at the time:-)
Beth, DMS, and AmyLu- I'll check with my library. I'll be right back*heads off to library site*

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 07:12 PM

Crazy-for-Rog,

Finally, someone brings us back to the original topic -- hotness!
I second everything you said about Roger. I, too, loved Edberg and Rafter. They would be #2 & #3 after Roger for me! I sense a pattern here. Interesting that Edberg is a Roger fan, too.

It seems very few (if any?) listed Roger AND Rafa on their top 5 list ... usually one or the other. Very interesting. Supports my theory that someone's style of play seems to have a lot to do with their perceived "hotness."

Posted by SS 07/27/2007 at 07:17 PM

# 1 - Roger Federer ... very masculine, sexy legs, gorgeous eyes and hair, sophisticated, class act.

# 2 - Marat Safin ... hunky, brooding, funny, entertaining, sexy-as-hell, bad boy.

# 3 Andy Roddick ... good looking, lot of testosterone, very witty and well spoken.

Posted by Beth 07/27/2007 at 07:20 PM

Jenn - totally awesome that you got to go to the victory party ! bet it was a good one

Posted by DMS 07/27/2007 at 07:25 PM

Tangi: before i forget...yes i have had beer at the union (one guy with us was an alumni) on that terrace at UW...and, you owe me the following: location, profession, and I will think of the rest later.:) LOL.

Posted by Jenn 07/27/2007 at 07:25 PM

Nice, Tangi! (but bad that that is the last time for live Tennis). One of my lifetime dreams is to attend all 4 Grand Slams, so I thought that NY was a good place to start since I was broke at the time and had a free place to crach in Brooklyn. (My poor friend gave up his bed to me and slept on the floor for 2.5 weeks, but that's another story!).

I practically camped out at the NTC for 2 weeks. In total I missed 2 night sessions, and 1 day session. I was there for every other minute of the tournament, including the Friday night session of Labor Day weekend 3rd round match between Moya and Chang when Moya came back from 2 sets down and finally won it in 5. Incredible clutch shot making and he was just so cool (and hot!) doing it. It was one of those very cold nights in early September NY and by the time the match hit the 5th set there were about 200 people left in Arthur Ashe (it was very very late). I have been an enormous fan of Moya ever since. He went to the semis that year.

I was not exhausted. I was so thrilled to be there I can't tell you. I vividly remember my first time on the 7 train pulling in to the Flushing stop and I could not contain my excitement. I practically ran down that long walkway. In the long line for the grounds passes on the first day, I met this great local guy who showed me where to go to see the players practice and a bunch of other insider tips. Being by myself was very good because I know of nobody else who would have wanted to spend day and night there for 2 weeks.

Tangi will remember that the finals that year were between Rafter and Philippousis, so every Aussie on the East Coast was out in force. Great group of fans. We made friends with a big section of them and hours later I found myself face to face with Patrick Rafter spraying me (and others!) with expensive champagne in a bar in downtown Manhattan. The Donald also showed up, just to complete the NY experience, and I had a chat with Rafter's then girlfriend (now wife) in the bathroom about how she liked NY, etc. Nice person. I talked briefly to Rafter and he signed my US Open visor. Hence, he resides at the top of my "Who's Hott" list, despite my extreme admiration of our cute ripped Mallorcan buddy.

Posted by DMS 07/27/2007 at 07:26 PM

Beth: re:IW, good, unless something happens i cannot forsee just yet, i want to go to it.

Posted by Beth 07/27/2007 at 07:26 PM

speaking of hott - did anyone here notice that Verdasco is in the semifinals of a tournament in Austria this week
now - shhhhh - don't jinx him
snoo foo and I are tiptoeing around this one in case he wakes up and realizes he has won matches in a row.

Posted by Beth 07/27/2007 at 07:33 PM

Jenn- sounds like a complete blast!
I would have gone with you every day and night session - too bad we did not "know "each other then - but - my kids were smaller then would have been hard to leave them for such a long time
and "stick " them on their dad - and no you do not sound bad for doing that - my husband took care of the kids one and only one weekend of their little lives - while I went to Vegas for Davis Cup with some girlfriends.
and frankly - grandma probably did more to take care of them than he did.

Posted by AmyLu 07/27/2007 at 07:36 PM

Beth, Monaco is in the semis there too - I don't know that I would call Monaco hott - he falls more into my cute range. He has a really boyish-looking face with a great smile!

Another HOTT member would be Moya - he knocked out Ferrer today. By the way, Moya in Argentina is known as being a womanizer - according to JJ, the joke (and it's even put in print in the newspaper!) is how many women will Moya sleep with this year!

Posted by jb 07/27/2007 at 07:37 PM

shhhh beth. don't talk too loud! But I too noticed that. Along with the fact that the Year of Carlos rolls on!

Bummer about the rain in indy - i was looking forward to seeing some tennis... sigh. However, the pic of fancy dancy on the atp site is very nice - he's looking fine, i must admit!

Posted by Jenn 07/27/2007 at 07:40 PM

Womanizer! I'm sad to hear that. Wasn't he with Flavia for quite awhile? (although someone on this thread said that they had broken up very recently. They were together as of Roland Garros this year according to Rafa's blog). I am naive enough to convince myself that the players who I love would NEVER sleep around in every city or cheat on wives and girlfriends...

Posted by Beth 07/27/2007 at 07:41 PM

OK - we will keep the Hott Sauce thing quiet
Amylu - not that I don't believe you - cause Moya has player written all over him - but why would the Argentines have the inside scoop on Carlos ? other than they are Spanish speaking -
agree on Monaco - cute definitely - hott - no

Posted by AmyLu 07/27/2007 at 07:47 PM

Beth, apparently women throw themselves at Moya in Buenos Aires - this topic only comes up during the tournament as far as I know...I don't know if it's true or not, but it's definitely joked about during the tournament. I just realized I didn't frame my comment in terms of the tournament there - the question is how many women during his time in Buenos Aires.

But anyway, JJ sent me the link to a photo of Moya with two very beautiful women draped around him from Buenos Aires this year, and the caption under the picture (it was from one of the Argentinian on-line papers) was something along the lines of "will either of these women sleep with Carlos?" I couldn't believe that would make it to print!

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 07:52 PM

Jenn,

I'm in awe. I have no story from the '98 Open that can even remotely match yours! I went alone, too, and thought it was great that I didn't have to worry about entertaining someone who wasn't that interested in tennis. And it is also a dream of mine to see all 4 Slams! I was lucky enough to see the French Open final in '91 when Monica defeated Aranxta.

But I really like the energy and activity of the early rounds. You have a chance to see everyone. My most vivid memories of '98 were seeing Martina Hingis practice (she was the "it" girl at the time), being flabbergasted at the long line to get into Kournakova's doubles match and at the inappropriate comments being uttered about her by middle-aged men, Louis Armstrong being packed to see Jennifer Capriati's return, and of course, seeing Rafter and Edberg. I was there from 10 a.m. til 1 a.m.? and loved every minute.

What's the next tournament you plan to attend?

Do you want to do some work together on the TW profile project?

Posted by Beth 07/27/2007 at 07:53 PM

Amylu - makes sense
judging from the crowd he attracted at IW - I would believe it . IW is not exactly a hot bed of groupies - it is a much older and family oriented crowd. Between Moya and Safin - they attracted quite a few ladies that I would describe as definitely looking to score. I also noticed that Flavia did not leave Carlos side - practice court ,matches - everytime I saw him - she was right there. She watched him very closely . Apparently -she reads Argentine news reports.

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 07:57 PM

DMS,

OK, I'll answer your questions when you have your full list compiled. I draw the line at SSN and DOB, however. LOL!

Posted by AmyLu 07/27/2007 at 07:57 PM

LOL Beth. And Jenn, my response to JJ every time this subject came up was, "but Carlos is dating Flavia!" So I'm still stubbornly clinging to the thought that the Argentinian papers are just trying to create gossip and scandal, which honestly based on the state of reporting in many newspapers, may not be a stretch at all and very well even be the truth.

Posted by FoT 07/27/2007 at 07:57 PM

I've been out of pocket today so I'm just now getting caught up on this thread.

Tangi & Liz - let me give you both a big *hug*! I swear, we're long lost sisters the way you think because I have those thoughts about Roger myself! Amazingly the same! Keep it up! lol!

Also tribe let me give a big Happy 32nd birthday to my son today!

Posted by DMS 07/27/2007 at 08:04 PM

Tangi: implied, yes, none of that...location and profession will suffice...LOL.

Posted by AmyLu 07/27/2007 at 08:06 PM

Okay, I'm off for the night...time to go have fun with friends. Have a great night everyone! And hopefully tomorrow actual tennis will be shown on TV!

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 08:08 PM

Hi FoT,

You've been missed!

Posted by SS 07/27/2007 at 08:08 PM

I BURN for Roger Federer !!! I would give anything to be Mirka for just one day (and night) !

Posted by Jenn 07/27/2007 at 08:11 PM

Happy Birthday, son of FoT!

Tangi - I would love to work on the profile project with you. I'm thinking let's wait until Pete is back next week and we see what comes out of that thread he started, and then we can email and get something going.

I guess my next live tourney will be IW. I missed the L.A. tournament last weekend because of my girls' weekend in Vegas, and there wasn't anyone playing there who I was dying to see anyway (but would have liked to hang out with Beth et al.) I already sense a TW ground swell for IW... should be fabulous.

Posted by Beth 07/27/2007 at 08:21 PM

Happy birthday to your son, FoT
Speaking of sons- I must go and put together a special dessert for Jake's return tomorrow - so I am off. Just had to make a quick dash to the market and on the radio - Blue Oyster Cult - don't fear the reaper. Can anyone hear that song without thinking of Will Farrell and the cow bell ? It just makes me laugh .

Well -got to go -talk another day!
PS - Jenn - it is gonna be so fun in IW this year! I wish we were all going.

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 08:28 PM

Jenn,

Sounds like a plan!

SS, Crazy-for-Rog, FoT, Liz,

That's some pretty hot stuff you write about our TMF! I love it. And it's fun to see that other people are as passionate as I am. And I think we're proving that Roger has lots of female fans, too!

Posted by FoT 07/27/2007 at 08:37 PM

Hey, have you guys seen this? So much for Tony Roche coming with Hewitt. But looks like the Australians are trying to go all out for their players:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,22148324-23216,00.html

Beth, Jenn, I'll make sure my son see your birthday wishes!

Tangi - yes, inspite of some folks saying Roger does nothing for them - he has proven that he definitely has female fans that think just the opposite!

Posted by Crazy-for-Rog 07/27/2007 at 08:48 PM

Tangi ... I agree ... Roger does have a lot of female fans. You only need to log in to his website and read all those "hot" threads to know that ! BTW ... It really irks me when some people label him as "boring". I think he used to be shy and reserved in public, but he has opened up in recent years. I love his press conferences, and while he may not have Roddick's off-the-cuff wit, I still think he has a rivetting personality, and a lot of charisma. And he really is extremely emotional and sensitive. That cool facade he puts up on court doesn't fool me one bit ! There's plenty of emotion smouldering underneath, and he really doesn't hide it in his expression especially when the match gets tight.

Posted by FoT 07/27/2007 at 08:53 PM

Amen... Crazy-for-Rog! You go girl!

Posted by DMS 07/27/2007 at 08:55 PM

taps finger....whistles....ahem, cough, ahem......?

Posted by SS 07/27/2007 at 09:06 PM

I BURN for Roger Federer ! Oh wait ... did I already post that? Yes I did. Ok, I also ACHE for Roger Federer !

Anybody who doesn't appreciate his hotness deserves to be flogged !

Posted by tangerine popsicle (tangi) 07/27/2007 at 09:11 PM

Crazy-for-Rog,

Yes, the "boring" accusation completely exasperates me! (Please refer to my 2:20 post today for my complete rant on that subject).

I, too, think Roger is endlessly fascinating and entertaining, not to mention completely adorable.

Still waters run deep ...

Posted by Celia 07/27/2007 at 11:36 PM

If anyone is here can you PLEASE answer this question- isn't there a tournament that's part of the U.S. Open series that's in Toronto?

Posted by Snoo Foo 07/27/2007 at 11:42 PM

celia, the rogers cup, the wta version is in toronto

http://www.rogerscup.com/1/en/home/

Posted by Celia 07/28/2007 at 12:20 AM

Thanks Snoo Foo!

Posted by Another Perspective 07/28/2007 at 12:21 AM

Celia, the Canadian Open (aka Roger’s Cup) is the first ATP Masters Series event on the US Open series. It will be held from Aug 4 to 12, which is immediately before the Cincinnati Masters. The men’s ATP and ladies’ WTA events switch between Toronto and Montreal each year: this year the men’s event is being held in Montreal. The Toronto stadium is quite new and is probably one of the best stadiums in North America. The Canadian Open first started in 1881 and is the oldest ongoing tournament after Wimbledon and the U.S. Open.
http://www.rogerscup.com/portal/default.asp

I’ve seen Roger Federer play four times in this tournament, which he won in 2004 against Roddick and in 2006 against Gasquet (both in Toronto). I saw Nadal win this tournament against Agassi in 2005 (Fed didn’t play in Montreal that year). I also saw him lose last year in Toronto to Tomas Berdych 1-6, 6-4, 2-6 in about 100 minutes.

Posted by Celia 07/28/2007 at 12:26 AM

Thanks Another Perspective! Maybe I can go to Toronto next year.

Posted by Celia 07/28/2007 at 12:27 AM

Another Perspective, if you're still here, how much do tickets usually cost for Toronto?

Posted by kim 07/28/2007 at 12:54 AM

1 Nadal
2 Nadal
3 Nadal
4 Gonzales
5 Haas

and suggestion for crazy-for-rog's list #5) Nadal (duh..)

Posted by Another Perspective 07/28/2007 at 01:08 AM

Celia: I think I paid around C$140 per seat per session for last year’s quarterfinal Friday in the center court (so for both day and night sessions I think it cost around C$300 per person). Currently, the exchange rate is about US$95 for C$100; add about 15% for taxes. The center court ticket allows you to see matches played in the second court for free. Last year, we got lucky and sat a few rows just behind Mirka (that woman text messages an awful lot while Federer plays and leaves when he's about to close out the match!). The first link below is pricing for this year's women’s event at the Toronto stadium (Rexall Center), which costs about twice as much as tickets to the Montreal stadium (second link) even though the men’s event is being held there this year. Although the Toronto stadium is new, nice and you get a good view from most seats, the Montreal stadium is decent enough and good value for money, if you want to go this year. The matches on Wednesday (last 32) or Thursday (last 16) are better value. Both cities are great to visit, although the Montreal area has the flair of old Europe, different from US cities. Makes a great vacation.

http://tickets.rexallcentre.com/English/EventPlanner.aspx?package=NONE

http://www.rogerscupmen.com/4/en/tickets/sessiontickets2007.asp

Posted by Fedexfan 07/28/2007 at 08:50 AM

I see Mirza has proven most of us here wrong... defeated Patty 76, 61. Anyone saw the match?

Posted by nitya 07/28/2007 at 09:49 AM

Looks like Mirza played a pretty solid match.. I like the way the girl is maturing over ther past few months.

Knowing her, I expected to lose the second set after the good performance in the first set ... But she proved me wrong and put a bigger show in the second(it was partly bcoz patty lost her rythm and already gave up).

Now I am backing her all the way to the final ! :)

Posted by patrick 07/28/2007 at 09:55 AM

Nitya,
Mirza chances of playing in the final tomorrow are pretty good. She does well in California with the support of the Indian population there. If her backhand is off, Bammer could give her problems.

Posted by patrick 07/28/2007 at 09:56 AM

Nitya,
Sorry, I meant to say her forehand instead of backhand.

Posted by Sam 07/28/2007 at 12:31 PM

"Still waters run deep ..."

Very true, tangi.

Posted by Celia 07/28/2007 at 02:22 PM

Thanks Another Perspective! I think I'll try to go to Toronto next year because I really only pay attention to the men's tour, and Toronto is closer to where I live.

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