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« FYI Your Call June 17 »
Monday Net Post
Posted 06/16/2008 @ 12 :28 PM

By TW Contributing Editor, Ed McGrogan

Last Week's Tournaments

Gerry Weber Open (ATP - Grass - Halle, Germany)

- Singles Final: Roger Federer def. Philipp Kohlschreiber 6-3, 6-4.
    - Singles Semifinal: Roger Federer def. Nicolas Kiefer 6-1, 6-4.
    - Singles Semifinal: Philipp Kohlschreiber def. James Blake 6-3, 7-5.
- Singles Bracket

- Doubles Final: Mikhail Youzhny/Mischa Zverev def. Lukas Dlouhy/Leander Paes 3-6, 6-4, 10-3.
    - Doubles Semifinal: Lukas Dlouhy/Leander Paes def. Ivan Ljubicic/Robin Soderling 6-4, 0-6, 10-4.
    - Doubles Semifinal: Mikhail Youzhny/Mischa Zverev def. Christopher Kas/Philipp Petzschner 5-7, 6-4, 10-7.
- Doubles Bracket

Orange Warsaw Open (ATP - Clay - Warsaw, Poland)

- Singles Final: Nikolay Davydenko def. Tommy Robredo 6-3, 6-3.
    - Singles Semifinal: Nikolay Davydenko def. Fabio Fognini 6-2, 6-3.
    - Singles Semifinal: Tommy Robredo def. Juan Monaco 6-4, 6-4.
- Singles Bracket

- Doubles Final: Mariusz Fyrstenberg/Marcin Matkowski def. Nikolay Davydenko/Yuri Schukin 6-0, 3-6, 10-4.
    - Doubles Semifinal: Mariusz Fyrstenberg/Marcin Matkowski def. Marcel Granollers/Santiago Ventura 2-6, 6-1, 10-8.
    - Doubles Semifinal: Nikolay Davydenko/Yuri Schukin def. Oscar Hernandez/Albert Montanes 6-2, 6-1.
- Doubles Bracket

The Artois Championships (ATP - Grass - London, England)

- Singles Final: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic 7-6, 7-5.
    - Singles Semifinal: Rafael Nadal def. Andy Roddick 7-5, 6-4.
    - Singles Semifinal: Novak Djokovic def. David Nalbandian 6-1, 6-0.
- Singles Bracket

- Doubles Final: Daniel Nestor/Nenad Zimonjic def. Marcelo Melo/Andre Sa 6-4, 7-6.
    - Doubles Semifinal: Marcelo Melo/Andre Sa def. Max Mirnyi/Jamie Murray 6-3, 6-7, 10-6.
    - Doubles Semifinal: Daniel Nestor/Nenad Zimonjic def. Frantisek Cermak/Jordan Kerr 6-3, 7-6.
- Doubles Bracket

Barcelona KIA (WTA - Clay - Barcelona, Spain)

- Singles Final: Maria Kirilenko def. Maria Jose Martinez Sanchez 6-0, 6-2.
    - Singles Semifinal: Maria Jose Martinez Sanchez def. Nuria Llagostera Vives 2-6, 6-3, 6-1.
    - Singles Semifinal: Maria Kirilenko def. Stephanie Cohen-Aloro 7-5, 6-3.

- Doubles Final: Lourdes Dominguez Lino/Arantxa Parra Santonja def. Nuria Llagostera Vives/Maria Jose Martinez Sanchez 4-6, 7-5, 10-4.
    - Doubles Semifinal: Nuria Llagostera Vives/Maria Jose Martinez Sanchez def. Alina Jidkova/Lilia Osterloh 6-1, 7-5.
    - Doubles Semifinal: Lourdes Dominguez Lino/Arantxa Parra Santonja def. Andrea Hlavackova/Klaudia Jans 6-3, 6-4.

- Singles & Doubles Bracket

DFS Classic (WTA - Grass - Birmingham, England)

- Singles Final: Kateryna Bondarenko def. Yanina Wickmayer 7-6, 3-6, 7-6.
    - Singles Semifinal: Kateryna Bondarenko def. Marina Erakovic 6-3, 6-2.
    - Singles Semifinal: Yanina Wickmayer def. Bethanie Mattek 7-5, 7-6.

- Doubles Final: Cara Black/Liezel Huber def. Severine Bremond/Virginia Ruano Pascual 6-2, 6-1.
    - Doubles Semifinal: Cara Black/Liezel Huber def. Yaroslava Shvedova/Tamarine Tanasugarn 5-7, 6-4, 10-4.
    - Doubles Semifinal: Severine Bremond/Virginia Ruano Pascual def. Vania King/Alla Kudryavtseva 64, 4-6, 10-8.

- Singles & Doubles Bracket

By the Letter

T...op 10 future for Kei Nishikori?  Rafael Nadal thinks so: "I am 100 percent sure."
E...ven after her two-year ban for a positive cocaine test is over, Martina Hingis will not be returning to the pro tour.  "I re-lived it again for two years but I don't miss anything. I don't care so much about it," said Hingis.
N...ews you can use (Men): Miroslav Mecir, son of the two-time Grand Slam finalist, received a wild card into his first Challenger tournament in Kosice.  He won his first round match before losing to the No. 8 seed, Miguel Angel Lopez Jean, in the second round.
N...ews you can use (Women): Top seed Martina Muller was upset early in the $75,000 Marseille tournament.  Unseeded Kirsten Flipkens of Belgium took home the title.
I...vo Karlovic won his third round match against Fernando Gonzalez without having to win a match point - Gonzalez's persistent ball abuse led to a game penalty with Gonzo down 5-6 in the second set.
S...oothsayer Bjorn Borg thinks that Roger Federer will hold onto the No. 1 ranking this year, but that his reign will not last through 2009.  (Plus much more.)
W...imbledon's decision to not award the final two wild cards allowed Vince Spadea and Thierry Ascione direct entry into the tournament.  Maybe the LTA was still holding out hope than Pete Sampras and Tim Henman would come back.
O...ne way you can turn 54 straight losses into something positive.
R...oland Garros final between Federer and Nadal drew the lowest ratings of their three finals encounters.
L...ooking to work in tennis?  The WTA Tour has a few open spots - relocation a plus.
D...avydenko, Nikolay, was victorious in the oddly-placed Warsaw clay event for his third title of the season.

McGrogan's Heroes + Tennis Theatre

ATP – Rafael Nadal

Rng Plenty of tennis fans are expecting Roger Federer to reach his sixth consecutive Wimbledon final in a few weeks.  But justified or not, Rafael Nadal is getting nearly the same degree of respect.  Nadal has two things going for him in that regard: His valiant effort at last year’s Championships, and his recent streak of torrid play.  That argument got a lot stronger after his victory at The Artois Championships.

Nadal got quite the warm-up for Wimbledon at Queen’s Club, facing virtually every grass court star not named Federer.  He first met veteran Jonas Bjorkman, just two years removed from a semifinal appearance at the All England Club.  It wasn’t a kind draw, but Nadal wasn’t kind in his 6-2, 6-2 beat down either.

After getting by Delray darling Kei Nishikori in three sets, Nadal then started tangling with the big boys.  And they don’t get much bigger than Ivo Karlovic.  The match went to three tiebreakers, but Nadal came out on top, winning the final two sets. 

Another ace machine was next in Andy Roddick.  In a battle of two-time Wimbledon finalists, Rafa proved stronger, dispatching the American in straight sets, 7-5, 6-4.

With the big servers out of the way, Nadal’s final test came against a great shot maker in Novak Djokovic.  This match had it all, including this would be shot of the year, had it landed in:

That was about the only thing missing from Nadal’s play this week though, as he once again impressed on the court – this time, made of grass.  His win over Djokovic also marked the first time a Spaniard won on the surface in 36 years.

WTA – Kateryna Bondarenko

Kb Kateryna Bondarenko, the younger sister of Alona, has had a nice year – she’s just needed some help along the way.  That help came from her doubles partner, the very same Alona.  Currently second in the Sony Ericsson Championships doubles race, these Ukrainian sisters have saved their best tennis for the biggest tournaments.  After opening the season with their first Grand Slam title at the Australian Open, the Bondarenkos nearly got their second, but fell in the semifinals of the French Open.

Instead of resting on their laurels, the Bondarenko sisters entered the DFS Classic this week to prepare for Wimbledon.  In the doubles tournament, they were upset in the opening round.  But they each made up for it with their singles play.  Alona, with one career singles title to her name, reached the quarterfinals, but Kateryna won it all for her first career WTA Tour title.

This was an advantageous tournament to enter, as the top seed – by computer rankings – was the plummeting Marion Bartoli (this after both Maria Sharapova and Jelena Jankovic withdrew).  Bartoli, who was in Kateryna’s quarter of the draw, lost her opening match, leaving that quarter wide open.  Kateryna saw the opportunity and took it, dropping only one set in her first four matches.

Kateryna would have played her sister in the semifinals, but Marina Erakovic got in the way.  Sticking up for her big sister, Kateryna sent Erakovic packing, advancing to the final to play the rising Yanina Wickmayer.  Wickmayer, currently Belgium’s top ranked player (at 18, she’s won eight ITF titles), played Bondarenko tough, but it was 7-6, 3-6, 7-6 to Kateryna in the end.

This Week's Tournaments

- TV Schedule

Ordina Open (ATP - Grass - 's-Hertogenbosch, The Netherlands)

- Singles Bracket
- Doubles Bracket
- Website

The Slazenger Open (ATP - Grass - Nottingham, England)

- Singles Bracket
- Doubles Bracket
- Website

International Women's Open (WTA - Grass - Eastbourne, England)

- Singles & Doubles Bracket
- Website

Ordina Open (WTA - Grass - 's-Hertogenbosch, The Netherlands)

- Singles & Doubles Bracket
- Website

Beyond the Bracket

There’s been a lot of grumbling lately about the ATP Tour schedule, led by its top three players, Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal, and Novak Djokovic.  I find this somewhat ironic because this top-ranked trio, by definition, has excelled under the current schedule, and this past week’s results suggest that they stand to benefit the most from the compacted calendar.  All three played deep into the second week at Roland Garros, but there was no noticeable fatigue or impact on their playing abilities.  And all of this took place, even more amazingly, on two completely different surfaces.

Federer cruised through the 32-player draw in Halle, maintaining his monopoly that he’s held there for years.  Nadal and Djokovic met in the final of Queen’s, each taking out a man who previously dominated the tournament (Andy Roddick and Lleyton Hewitt, respectively).  Speaking collectively for this trio, there’s no better way these past three week could have unfolded.

Of course, tennis isn’t played collectively.  So while this is great news for all three studs, I think its better news for Nadal and Djokovic, and less so for Federer.  After Federer showed the first chinks in his armor at the Australian Open, Pete mentioned that Wimbledon could be of critical importance to him, since Roger was unlikely to win at the French.  That scenario unfolded exactly.  It’s not just the chase for 15 Grand Slam titles that makes Wimbledon so important. If Federer were to lose – and Nadal or Djokovic to win – his number one ranking could be in a perilous position.

Things will be tougher because of what’s happened at the last two Slams.  In Melbourne, Federer was beaten in straights by Djokovic.  In Paris, he was flattened by Nadal.  These were huge confidence boosters for the winners.  Now, it’s not impossible to see Federer turning the tables on these two at Wimbledon, but I have a feeling that this is going to be an extremely tough test for Roger in a week’s time.

Djokovic and Nadal have dominated since the beginning of the year, and they looked great on grass in Queen’s.  Did you see the first set tiebreaker in their final yesterday?  The shot making reminded me of what Federer can do, with a twist.  Nadal’s serve does the job on both clay and grass – it will skid more on the slick surface.  Federer should expect to hit plenty of backhand returns once again, though he will be able to get more power and control on the shot, as it won’t kick as much.  Djokovic’s groundstrokes are quite powerful (remember that 100 mph swipe yesterday?) and precise, from both the forehand and backhand wing.  And don’t sleep on Roddick either – he’s also beat Roger this year.  I’m not sure where Roddick will be ranked, but can you imagine if Federer’s last three matches are Roddick, Djokovic, and then Nadal?

Make no mistake about it – Federer is the favorite at Wimbledon, and a big one at that.  He’s now won 59 straight on grass, and beat his closest rival, Nadal, each of the last two years at the All England Club.  That was probably in the (unknown) Tennis Channel commentator’s mind when, in between the first and second set of the Queen’s final, he said, “Eight days away from The Championships themselves.  Roger up on Centre.”  Let’s see what he does this year.

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Federer does not win Wimbledon, do you think he'll finish the year ranked No. 1?

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First!!!

I think he can depending on his hard court season finish #1.

I also think Wimbledon is critical for Federer if he pretends to stay in the number 1 spot... if he doesnt win Wimbledon, I think he can say goodbye to his ranking... He has too many points to defend for the rest fo the year, and lets remember that Nadal dissapear after Wimbledon last season... Im a fedfan but i dont think Nadal would dissapear like he did the past two years, he is playing better than ever on hardcourts proof to that was IW, Miami and semis of the australian...

Rafa was amazing in the Queen's Club. His heart and skills in the whole tournament is terrific! He really did improve a lot in serve and skills. When seeing his match with Djokovic, I wonder whether Federer can really beat any of these two coming up guys! This year's wimbledon should be very very attractive!

I disagree with your:

"Make no mistake about it – Federer is the favorite at Wimbledon, and a big one at that. He’s now won 59 straight on grass, and beat his closest rival, Nadal, each of the last two years at the All England Club."

1. Last year, it was very close call, with Fed on the verge of nervous breakdown and then Rafa calling the trainer for an injury.

2. This year: Rafa is more aggresive, has the best FH (precision and power), has won his first grass event and dominated Roger twice and Djokovic three times; while Roger is recovering after his ilness (showing inconsistency in his shots and lack of confidence against Nadal). Only open blisters in his foot or a red hot ( once in a life performance?) Tsonga stopped Rafa this year...Like I posted earlier, he plays the important points like a chess grandmaster (like he does his best then).

Just my 2 cents. :)

Unthinkable. Federer played weaker opposition in Halle but he did not drop serve in 5 matches. The grass is the surface that posseses the secrets to his success. He's (to me), the best grass court player ever, yes even better than Sampras and Borg.

I think Federer will lose no. 1 ranking this year as Nadal and Djokovic are in good form sharing the slams RG and AO respecitively and winning more titles this year so far compared to Federer. Nadal will be the favourite for wimbledon if he is going to play like he did in Queen's

Does anyone know why Moya, Monaco, and Chela have pulled out of Wimbledon? Injuries?

Answer to if question:

No, if Rafael Nadal and/or Novak Djokovic wins.
Yes, if any other players besides Rafael or Novak because I think Roger will be able to defend at least 90-95% of his hardcourt points in the 2nd half.

Afwu1216,
Injuries are the reason for their withdrawal.

Hhhmmm, although a poster already concluded that a double slam winner has not made it to #1 in Mauresmo, I think it's safe to say she never dominated in Nadal's fashion. It would be sick indeed, and a testament to just how thoroughly Federer has dominated the tour should he not defend his Wimby crown but still hold onto the #1 rank.

I still think it is waaay to early to say that anyone but Feds is the favorite at Wimbles. Fellow hasn't lost on grass in oh- years. Didn't struggle at Halle. Yes, the competition at Halle was maybe not as tough as at Queen's but Roger can only play who is in front of him.

The only way I would knock him off in my list as the fave for Wimbles was if he really struggled in the first rounds at London. But as for right now, I am expecting him to repeat. Rafa, Nole are contenders for the title for sure- but Feds remains the fave for me for the title.

If Answer: I do not think that he would be able to remain Number 1 if he looses Wimbledon.

But I feel that Roger is going to win the title having an easier time than last year. Reasons:

-He played (and won) Halle, so he is not lacking grass-match practice.
-He did not loose his serve throughout the whole tournament (Has this happened before? If so, was the person's last name Karlovic?)
-He is well aware about the importance of this tournament towards the rest of the year.

Here's for having a third Fedal RG-WB final double!

If Roger doesn't win Wimbeldon, and either Rafa or Novak does, then I don't see how Roger could claim to be the number 1. No matter what the rankings say.
Roger's point total is so massive that he will have to go out early at either W or USO. Not likely at all.
Rafa will have to win New York. Not likely.

I think Roger will keep the #1 this year. Hard for either to catch him. But the ATP Race...now that's a horse of a different color, and far more exciting. That could end up being anyone of the 3.

Federer needs to be really at his best to win wimbledon as this is going to be the toughest year ever for him since started winning the first time. Winning in Halle Germany without losing a serve is not going to make much difference, as there were no top 5 players in the tournament.

Rafa will get the #1 ranking sometime this summer but Roger will have it back by the time the U.S. open is over.

rudy3,

are you aware of the fact that at the end of the year, the rankings and the race will look exactly the same?

here is what i think: who ever of the big 3 wins wimbledon will be #1 at the end of the year.

rudy3 at the end of the year the ATP rankings and the Race tell the same story and will have ppl in the exact same order.

Federer does not win Wimbledon, do you think he'll finish the year ranked No. 1?

No i think if federer wasn't able to defend his title at wimbledon there would be huge emotional scar. I dont think he bounce back as quickly as the times he lost at the french open, where he wasnt expected to win.

If federer wants to stay number 1 at the end of the year its crucial for him to win wimbledon.

I think Roger is a heavy favor comming in the Wimbledon, but Nadal and Nova are determined to win this title as well. I have a feeling Roger will not win this year, but it is ok, he won 5 times...Time for something new

prettsg

"Winning in Halle, Germany without loosing a serve is not going to make much difference, as there were no top 5 players in the tournament"

I think it is going to make a difference because Federer, like Nadal, is a confidence player: the more confidence, the better he plays. And this certainly adds to his confindence stack.

Manolo


Its like comparing estoril and RG

Fedex might win wimbledon ; particularly if he gets lucky with joker in nadal’s half ; but he is not going to maintain his no 1 ranking with joker slated to do better at masters in Canada and Cincinnati ; the joker will also be the favorite to win the US open ; fedex and nadal might share the no 2 and no 3 ranking between themselves depending on how they perform on hard courts ;

Manolo,
Andy Roddick won Dubai w/o losing his serve the entire week. He beat Juanqui, PHM, Rafa, Djoko and Feli along the way.

Even though, as I keep saying, I don't really LIKE golf, I keep getting drawn in to watching the US Open. And one of the commentators made an interesting point the other day that I think applies a bit to Wimbledon as well. He said that because of a few changes, regarding pin placement mostly, the course they were playing ...especially the last few holes.... was suited PERFECTLY to Rocco Mediate's game. And I couldn't help thinking of Wimbledon in that context. Because of the way the grass has been slowed down, the course now suits Nadal's game at least as much as Federer's or Djokovic's. ( I believe last year they said that the were going to use faster balls for this year's tourney to create a more balanced situation.) Sometimes it is about H2, sometimes about matches-ups, and sometimes it is about surfaces and conditions. Mostly of course, it is a bit of them all...with some luck thrown in as well.

Good morning everyone
and belated Happy Father's Day to all the dads at TW
Because of my own family event I did not get a chance to look in yesterday
but we did watch that big match at Queen's
Vamos Rafa! what a great match - it had everything - great shot making and superb
effort and sportsmanship from the two guys . I think they should both be very proud of that one. It was a thriller - and my whole family thoroughly enjoyed it
I really hope we get to see more matches like that in the future of tennis - because that was really fun !
also want to offer "hugs" to the Djokovic fans, I know you are disappointed your guy lost - but he played beautifully
And congrats to Roger - I am not surprised he won - good for him
Really looking forward to Wimbledon -

as to your if question - i think if Rafa or Novak wins Wimbledon - then it will be hard for Roger to end the year at number one - but , we have a long way to go - so I would not count him out, that;s for sure

Fedex is 27 nearly ; nadal-joker are 21-22 ; this will make some difference ; fedex might win wimbledon but will not last the hard court season as no 1;

prettsg, the difference between Queen's and Halle is not the difference between Estoril and RG.

But I guess Soderling, Baghdatis, Youzhny, and Kiefer are all nobodies who could never trouble Djokovic or Nadal on grass.

Nice post, Ed, as usual.

I am going to say that if Novak or Rafa beats Federer at Wimbledon and wins the crown, whichever one accomplishes that will end up #1 before the end of the year. I believe that the confidence that would come from dethroning the King of Grass would enable that player not only to gain a lot of points but to, more importantly, ride the crest of confidence through the second half of the season. Nadal in particular has a lot of points he can gain, particularly at Cincinatti and the US Open. Federer, on the other hand, has very little ground he can gain during the second half. If he loses at Wimbledon, that will indicate not only to a decreased level of dominance, but would also likely be a blow to the confidence level. I agree with the poster who said that RG losses to Rafa probably don't affect Roger's confidence too much because he was not expected to win there, but a loss in his house, Wimbledon, would be unchartered territory for Fed since he became #1. If you assume, and I do, that his level could drop a bit after a loss to Wimbledon, and the winner's level and confidence would go up, that could be enough to tip the scales during the second half.

One thing is certain, it will be very intruiging to see how things unfold with the Trivalry from now until the Master's Cup.

Anonymus at 1:56

Thanks :D Very impressive by Roddick.

Prettsg

Just wanted to point out:

-Halle comes right before Wimbledon.
-Federer was a lot more impressive in Halle than in Estoril (Not sure if you wanted to point that out, but I'll point it out anyway).

"I also think Wimbledon is critical for Federer if he pretends to stay in the number 1 spot..."

Roger has never had to PRETEND to be number 1, EVER.

Manolo: Halle also had a much better field (for grass) than Estoril (for clay), minus Davydenko.

What a surprise. Nadal wins a grass court tournament, been in 2 finals of Wimbledon, it's definitely worth lots of respect. However, when Roger wins Hamburg a few times, been in the final of Roland Garros 2 (or 3) times, he doesn't get any respect. Instead, everyone seems to focus on he will never win the French Open.

I am an unapologetic Federer fan, but now relaxed about his place in history. After the phenomenal run of 2004-2007, including the three straight FO finals, his credentials are pretty well set. Sooner or later he is going to fall from number one. He is not the same Federer as 2004-2005 - it is impossible to remain match hard when you have won so often and so easily.

So maybe it is this year, but I am not in anxiety crisis over it. FWIW, to me, the 64 dollar question is the impact of last year's final. It is hard to believe Nadal could play much better, and Federer showed up not battle tested. Was that Nadal's best shot? Like Roddick in 2004? Or is he going to put up even more?

Second, will it be a Federer/Nadal final? Is the Wimbledon draw open? After the 1-2? Or are Nadal-Djoko pre-determined to be on the same side of the draw?

This is the most interesting Wimbledon in some time. I think Federer's days as number one are numbered, but I can live with that. Maybe not just yet, though.

I think i've already mentioned that one can be impressive when top players are not playing, but not in wimbledon, where all the top players play. Federer is no doubt a great player on grass but its going to be difficult this year if he cant maintain his highest level when needed.

Alexis

I am not sure if "to pretend" has the same uses in english as it has in spanish, but it sometimes means "to want"(At least in spanish it does).

prettsg

I just wanted to point out that winning Halle affects Federer positively more than you would expect from a realtively-small tournament.

All his glory years, Fedex was competing with roddick, hewitt, younger nadal, safin for the no 1 ranking ; now he has fto compete with joker which is much more difficult because joker is younger ; also nadal is a better player now ;Joker will kill all the GOAT talk about fedex ;

It looks like Federer is going to be no.3 by the end of this year.

Fedex could be no 1 or 2 with one grand slam ( wimbledon) ;

The only question is, can Rafa possibly keep it up? He has only a week until Wimby. He complained about how packed the clay court calendar was and then played Queens. I think the only thing that will stop him is fatigue.

I agree Genuine Realist. Of course Federer will lose his #1 ranking some day. Maybe sooner rather than later...who cares? He's already completely annhilated the consecutive weeks at #1 - a record which will probably never be surpassed. I really don't care about that any more. I suspect both Nadal and Djokovic will probably hold the #1 ranking at some point.

This is actually a fairly easy time for Federer fans. He's already cemented his place in history as one of the greats. I couldn't care less whether he is ever considered the GOAT because I don't think anyone can compare eras, but he's already one of the GOAT and that is way enough for me.

I would love to see Federer win a 6th-straight Wimbledon, but even if he doesn't...so what? 5-straight (tied with Borg) is pretty damn good.

A Nadal fan further up said something about it being time for someone else to win. Maybe. But just remember, Nadal is in that same boat already at the FO. And what goes around does indeed come around.

K.K.: Nicely said at 2:16.

I wouldn't be so quick to right off Fed. The guy just marched through Halle without dropping serve and has won Wimbledon 5 times in a row.

Being a Nole fan I would rather see him draw Rafa than Fed, I think he has a shot against Nadal, I thinks his chances are less with Roger. Just look at his grass court record. It's like Nadal's clay court resume. I think it's crazy to think Fed won't win.

Fact is a fact which we need to accept whether we like it or not. Nobody can be no.1 for ever. Federer is a genius and has become history. Lets discuss about the present players Nadal, Djoko and others

Tennis Fan:

"
He Just Thrashed FED & DJOKO 6 TIMES... Three Three Each ..
He 6 - 0 to Fed & Nole...

Forget abt Race he is on KILL Mode now.. "


I am not sure abt kill mode, But he do have loads of Confidence right now as he Nearly Defended all his points, He thinks he can win all and i Think he can.

"He Just Thrashed FED & DJOKO 6 TIMES... Three Each ..
He 6 - 0 to Fed & Nole..."

First off. Most of these were not thrashings. Second, 5 of the 6 you are referring to were on clay. And funny how you failed to mention the 'thrashing' that Djokovic gave Nadal in IW.

Was fedex as great as he was made out to be ? The quality of opposition he faced in his prime was not high grade ? And as soon as joker arrives, he fizzles out ! That’s not a GOAT ! Neither is nadal one ! Nor joker, maybe ! but fedex appears overhyped !

prettsg

"Fact is a fact which we need to accept whether we like it or not. Nobody can be no.1 for ever. Federer is a genius and has become history. Lets discuss about the present players Nadal, Djoko and others"

It all was good until the word "present". Did Federer retire in the past 24 hours and I'm in denial? I agree that Federer cannot be Number 1 for ever, but calling him a has-been is way too harsh.

Manolo

what more could we say with the performance and titles that federer has todate

piyush sharma, tone it down will you? Federer has been #1 for over four years now and has 12 GS and made the final of the FO (his worst surface) three straight years. He deserves all the accolades he has ever gotten. Of course he won't always be #1 and of course he will probably never dominate the way he did in, say 2006.

But he hardly 'fizzled' out when Djokovic or Nadal came on the scene.

prettsg

We could say that he has won two titles. We could say that he has reached the final of one Grandslam and the semifinal of another Grandslam. We could say that the season isn't over yet...

But it's too harsh (and too early) to count Federer out.

Manolo

Federer in the year 2008 is totally different from how he was in previous years. Poor performance after mono,low confidence level, losing net points and poor shot making decisions in matches compared to his previous years seems like he is on decline.

I think if Nadal wins it, Federer doesn't end as the #1. But if Djokovic wins, Federer should be okay, since they both have a lot of points to defend this fall.

tennisfan, I do believe in the different surfaces. I would always expect Nadal to win on clay...so the fact that Nadal has won the last three from Federer on clay is not surprising. Two of them were pretty close. And I'm not surprised that Nadal beat Djokovic on clay either. Their grass match on Sunday was very close. And I would imagine their H2H on grass would be fairly even. On hardcourts, Djokovic would have the edge. That is exactly the way it is for Federer too. Nadal has the big edge on clay, a slight edge to Federer on grass, and a bigger edge to Federer on hardcourts.

A win is indeed a win....but surface plays a big part in who would win and plays a big part when you look at H2Hs. It's no shame that both Federer and Djokovic are good enough to reach clay finals and face Nadal. And it is a great testament to Nadal that he is good enough on grass to win Queens and make the Wimbledon finals. Same with Djokovic.

"what more could we say with the performance and titles that federer has to date"

How about he had mono at the beginning of the year? And how about he's come down to a regular level now? Say....around the Sampras level...where Sampras averaged 15 losses a year and would win 1 or 2 GS in a great year. Like Ancic said...Federer made everyone believe that winning 3 GS a year was somehow normal.

Personally, I'm glad to see Roger back at a normal human level. Of course....it will put alot of pressure on both Nadal and Djokovic once they reach #1. I mean, everyone will be expecting them to lose only 5 matches a year and win 3 GS a year every year.

And we know that won't happen.

Fedex has not fizzled out ; he has been hit by mono ; but recovery might take time at age 27; yes he has great records; and might win another 5 grand slams at the most to total 15 plus ; but his prime is over ;

prettsg

Even though you are right, I don't think it's fair to anyone to compair them with Federer 04-07 (Even Federer himself). Why don't you compare Nadal or Djokovic to that Federer? Because it is simply unfair to do so: Federer in that time was just TOO good.

And if you compare Federer to a general standard of great level, you would have to acknowledge this year as a good year: Reaching the later stages of the Grandslams, reaching quite a few finals, maybe winning a slam or two.

Now it looks like its getting more and more difficult for federer even to equal Pete Sampras 14 GS titles, which I thought would be easily done before end of this year. Last year I was thinking that Federer would easily win 3GS in 2008, but he has won totally two titles only and no GS so far.

I watched every single match federer played on halle and even though the field of players in the tournament he played acordingly to the match he had. This guy has so much talent that by the way i saw him play throuout the week he played at a level acording to his rival. Thats how federer plays and has always played. Every time he served he just kind of played the first few points tested his game and if he was down 15-40 or even a couple of times 0-40 there is where he realy started playing blsting his way out with a couple of aces or fore hand winners.

I think he will continue to play like that at wimby but with way more confidence than at the clay seson because of all the achievments he has on grass and his recent title in halle and he will just play normaly the first few rounds and the second week is where we will see the best of him and i wouldnt be suprised of him taking his sixth title after beating rodick in quarters djokovic in smeis and nadal in the final.

Vagabundo

I would agree if this is year 2006. But this time if he goes down 0-40 or 15-40 it will not be the same as previous years so he may need to try to be always 40-0 or 40-15

In halle he did go down many times 15-40 and twice 0-40 and not just against any one curiously against his 2 hughest ranked rivls first against baghdatis and then against keifer and both times he began playing for real. You also have to keep in mind that baghdatis was fianlist in halle last year and semifinalist in wimbledon 2006 and got set of federer in the australian open final

Tennis Fan 06/16/2008 @ 2:47 PM

Alexis:

That is only LAME ONE from NOLE .. :-)

It's Thrashing to NOLE as he Believed he can Surpass NADAL early, The ostentation Remarks were Thrashed by Nadal in all their 3 Current Meetings.

And Still, Do you still believe in CLAY n GRASS n HARD ideology.
Defeat is a Defeat Nomatter where and how it happend.
Opportunity Lost is always Gone.

If you still thnk Nadal cant win on Hard n Grass then i Cant help, We'll better Discuss Soccor.

This post was not me, I disavoe this comment.

Moderator - Can you check this poster, someone is impersonating me again.

"Last year I was thinking that Federer would easily win 3GS in 2008, but he has won totally two titles only and no GS so far."

Really? Obviously he won 3 GS in 2007 and ended the year on a high note, but it seems a bit much to have thought that he would "easily" win 3 GS this year. If we look back over Fed's 2007 the only thing that looks relatively "easy" is the AO when he didn't drop a set. After that it's really a series of near misses. He had some very close calls in his best wins, e.g. the rounds before the final of Hamburg and the W. final. The loss to Djokovic last summer was clearly not a fluke. Yes, Fed beat him at the USO, but he did get, dare I say it, lucky with some of Djoko's massive chokes in that match. There was great play at the YEC but also a tough loss. Of course any year where someone wins 3 GS is a truly spectacular one by any measure, but even without the mono there were many signs that 2008 would be a tough one.

And that's how it should be. Djokovic and Nadal are entering their prime years as Fed is leaving his. He will still post some important wins over them in the next few years but it's going to be a lot tougher. Fed himself surely realizes this and I'm confident he will adjust both his game and expectations accordingly, just as Sampras did. Of course he wants to win W. this year. But if he doesn't, I don't think it will be the "emotional scar" that some have implied above it would be. Fed (and Nadal) seems to be quite healthy emotionally and also aware of the harsh realities of the top level of professional tennis. Some of his fans (myself included) may be emotionally scarred if he doesn't win W. this year (and especially if Djokovic does), but I don't think it will have a huge impact on Fed's game and attitude overall.

This was Roger’s comment after the match: “I guess once you take the decision to commit and come somewhere, you hope for a good week. But there is never a guarantee. I was just hoping not to have a bad tournament in the first couple of rounds and then look back on maybe four days. It would have been really tough for me loosing on grass again for the first time and having just lost in Paris the final. It would have been a rough few days not having gotten through to the semis or finals. For this reason, I am really excited the way I played, never dropped a service game throughout the week. I think the first time in my career I achieved such a thing by winning a title. So, I couldn’t be more happy. I beat quality players and also my level of play was very good. So, I’m really pleased with my performance.”

Roger shows how his confidence is re kindered after the win at halle

Moderator: Can you check on this poster who is impersonating me.

Tennis Fan 06/16/2008 @ 2:47 PM

It really makes me sick reading the comments about Federer losing the GOAT status. Or how he might not be the favorite at Wimbledon. When he slips up like he has in the first quarter of this year, you tend to forget just how incredible he really his. I hope he wins Wimbledon just to shut everybody (especially the media) up.

I would love to see Federer win a 6th-straight Wimbledon, but even if he doesn't...so what? 5-straight (tied with Borg) is pretty damn good.

Alexis: I'm just saying it is a possibility not that it will happen. And if you see one of my earlier posts, I predict that Federer will win Wimbly.

The tennis arc of achievement is evitable though, your not #1, then you are, usually for a long time, and then your not again forever. It's not reflection on past achievement it just that the game moves on. P.S. Graf is the all time record holder of most weeks at #1. I don't know about consecutive though.

Fedex in his prime was much better than himself today ;

Tennis Fan 06/16/2008 @ 2:15 PM

Moderator: This is another post that was not written by me. Can you please investigate and remove the person doing this.

When I did this once, by accident, I got a warning that if I did it again I would be permanetly excluded. I have never seen a similar post since then, even though this has happened repeatedly to me. Can you advise please?

The GOAT thing is all hype ; how can you compare champions of different eras?
Fedex is great ; Hewitt and Safin were never a match for his consistency ; but nadal and joker are guys of a different youthful generation ;

interresting to know what appearance fees do players get...

http://tinyurl.com/5rk7eb

if queens could afford more top players maybe they will get them, no ? but right now i don't think they could do more than that ?
specially since artois is ending the partnership with the tournament.

Novak is Federer's rival for supremacy in hardcourt points and he'll probably be in the finals of the upcoming hardcourt bonanza. If Federer loses Wimbledon, the pressure on Federer will be huge and we will see his mettle then. If he survives losing Wimbledon (in the Finals), and retains his #1 ranking at tghe end of the year, then this can just add to his great accomplishments. The only thing is, I find it a bit unfair that a lot of ranking points are decided on hardcourt compared to clay or grass, favoring the hardcourt champions.

The hard court math is with joker ; nadal can end psychologically the no 1 if he wins wimby; but if joker wins the US open, then he will be the psychological no 1 even if fedex wins wimby ;

'will be the psychological no 1'... brilliant !!!


Please let me know who is the 'physical no 1', 'metaphysical no 1' and 'mental no 1'.

Thanks. I already know who the no 1 is on grass, clay and hard courts.

I think the compression of the clay schedule hurt Rafa - without a week off, he was unable to defend 500 points in Rome, due to blisters.

I do believe he would have done better had this not happened. And then would be closer to gaining the number one spot, if he can improve on his second half of last year. So far this year, no sign of serious injuries.

There's always the possibility that Djokovic or Rafa claims the number one spot temporarily once the Shanghai points drop out of the totals, and after that, it's up for grabs depending on who plays best in Shanghai.

As for Federer-Nadal at Wimbledon - Nadal is serving better than ever right now. A few more cheap points in two tiebreak sets won by Federer in last year's final, and he might have been holding the trophy. The two sets won by Nadal were won with breaks of serve. No-one could describe last year's final as a thrashing of any kind - it was very close. Plus, there were two TB's in the previous year's final, after Nadal (as he admitted) had a very nervous start - who knows what would have happened had Nadal gone up two sets to one?

Nadal is capable of beating Federer on grass. No doubt about it in my mind. Whether he will is a separate question that can only be answered if the two meet again in the final. If I had to bet, at this stage, assuming the encounter happens, I'd go with Rafa. Who also could add points during the HC season, with not too many to defend.

And then there's the Olympics....

My prediction for Wimbledon is that Nadal will beat Federer in the final. At the minute, the difference between the two in ranking points is 1145. After Wimbledon, I think it will be 545. Then you go to the US Open where Federer is defending 1000 points and Nadal only 150. Even if Federer wins, Nadal may be the new no.1 if he makes it to the final. Depending on master tournaments, this should happen. Nadal was only in the last 32 of Cincinatti and Rome (5 points each) and the semi-finals of Shanghai. Federer has done considerably better than that and won the Masters Cup.
So, if Rafa wins Wimbledon, we should have a new no.1 after the US Open - possibly sooner. He's shown he has stamina. If he has the most in the game at the minute - which I believe he has - he will be no.1 in not long.

If Nadal wins Wimbledon, I cant see anyone stopping him at USOpen.

I agree with you, Rosangel, that Nadal can beat Federer on the grass at Winbledon. Not the grass in Philadelphia, mind you, but on the ryegrass and hard dirt of Wimbledon, yes.

I will attribute it mainly to his leftiness. It's what took Borg out of the game, and I'm afraid it may ultimately make Federer come unglued, as well.

On top of all this, Nadal seems to me to be adaptin to different playing conditions much better than Federer is. It's my opinion that Federer will rise to the occasion one more time this year, but that this will be his last Wimbledon title. And I think he will end up with 15 Slams, just one more than Sampras.

Vie, you said:

"The only thing is, I find it a bit unfair that a lot of ranking points are decided on hardcourt compared to clay or grass, favoring the hardcourt champions."


Yes, Rafa would have been #1 along time ago if there where more clay and grass points.

Right now, Rafa is #1 in ATP race, and he is playing like the #1 player in the world right now.

Federer has to many points to defend, they way Nadal and Djoko is playin, Federer better enjoy his last weeks as #1 because it's coming to an end very soon, I predict in the US Open, Federer will loose his #1 spot.

Slice,

Now I'm depressed. :(

Slice-n-Dice:
Why can't right-handed players use their forehands to pound the lefties' backhands the way Nadal does with Roger, at least on clay? Does it not have more to do with two-handed versus one-handed backhands (which are more difficult to execute above shoulder level) than with right-handed versus left-handed play? (The question is genuine, I just want to understand.)

Kofi,

I'll defer to Slice on your question, but I think you've already hit the nail on the head. It's the deadly combination of a leftie FH to a rightie's OHBH. I also think it's because the RH player is used to hitting to a rightie's BH, which is a FH when playing a leftie. It's hard to change habits when presented with a leftie on the other side of the net as there are so few on the tour.

I've also heard a player say recently (can't remember who it was)that because Nadal is a right hander who plays tennis left handed, it's like playing someone who has two FHs.

tangi: Federer made that comment about the two FHs.

It was Andy Murray who mentioned that playing Nadal is like playing someone with two FHs.

Federer also said it - after Murray did:)

Kofi,

I have trained a lefty for 4 years now and my opinion is this: that's because 95% of the field is composed by right-handers, so when a lefty comes around, they usually train with righties the basic crosscourt hitting. Thus, a lefty backhand is usually more solid against a righty forehand than the other way around, given that the next training day, everyone changes their pairs, so the right-hander gets another right-hander, while the lefty almost always gets a right-hander to train with.

Just my opinion.

"P.S. Graf is the all time record holder of most weeks at #1. I don't know about consecutive though."

If I'm not mistaken, Federer surpassed Graf last summer so he has the most consecutive weeks at #1 male or female.

"I will attribute it mainly to his leftiness. It's what took Borg out of the game, and I'm afraid it may ultimately make Federer come unglued, as well."

It's not just the left-handedness, but the combination of that and the truly phenomenal topspin that that Nadal generates to Fed's OHBH. But I don't think the left-handedness will drive Fed crazy at Wimbledon the way it did Borg (and let's remember that there was more than JMac's slice serve in the ad-court weighing on Borg's mind; he was still beating Mac on indoor carpet, after all). Here's why: JMac's slice serve swung out low to Borg's two-handed backhand (THBH). The THBH is a tougher shot on low balls than the OHBH. When Fed faces Nadal on clay he faces a similar but opposite problem, i.e. the VERY high bouncing cross-court shots to his OHBH. A OHBH is a tougher shot on high balls. On the grass at W., no matter how slow it is now or how slow the balls are, Nadal's massive topspin simply won't bounce the way it does on clay. Rosangel is right that Nadal's serve is looking tougher than it's ever been right now, but it's still going to be giving Fed relative low bouncing BHs to hit. That's a bread and butter shot for a great OHBH like Fed's. I'm Nadal's slice in the ad-court will give Fed (and everyone else) some trouble, but I don't see is being more difficult than, say Roddick's kick serve which both goes to the backhand AND bounces very high (same with Karlovic's).

Can Nadal beat Fed on grass? Of course. He brings much more to the table than Roddick or Karlovic and he's coming to W. as the hottest player on the tour. But I don't think his left-handed play per se is going to present some kind of impossible puzzle to Fed on grass, hardcourts, or indoor carpet. It's certainly not going to drive Fed to an early retirement.

All I'll say is that compared to the men's tour right now, the women's tour sucketh.

But I have to admit -- as far as the women's game goes, this is my absolute favorte two weeks of year coming up -- when Venus inevitably; Kicks. Sharapova's. Ass.

about rafa taking advantage of his leftyness, he really needs to thank his uncle to making him drop his right hand when playing on his left side... i'm sure his uncle never though a sec he could give a certain swiss player his worst nightmare on his search of GOAT-Graal at RG...
but he surely knew that being a lefty could be used as and advantage in certain situations since rafa had a good potential as a junior... and remember he used to train and practice with moya who's got one of the best fh out there, he suely worked very hard...


I think the period between Wimbledon and the Hard court Master's/Olympics/U.S Open is critical for Rafa. Will he be so drained mentally that it will negatively affect his play like 2006? Will he have health issues like 2007?

Rotor: would you say that, among lefties, the percentage of two-handed backhands is even higher than among right-handed players? I was just thinking that maybe the continuous exposure of leftie backhands to right-handed topspinned forehands would make such statistics appear via "natural selection"...

Christopher: I did not know OHBH was better for low balls, and I did not know McEnroe's low sliced services to his bachand contributed to Borg's retirement. I do know having two forehands is not an option because of the time it takes to change grips. But how about hitting OHBH for lower balls, THBH for high ones? Would that require much grip-changing and/or be difficult to learn? (I heard Federer say he cannot hit a OHBH),

Sorry to be getting into tennis-fiction, but of course I enjoy seeing Federer and Nadal play just the way the play...

I can't take this... I will see you guys maybe after Wimbledon. This thread has been taken over by some of the newer posters that... well, hopefully you get my drift. I'll miss some of you "Tangi, Tari, Sam, Andrew, Tim, Beckham, Jackie, Ros, and many of the other 'regulars' here... But I won't miss a lot of the newer posters.

Until later...

P.S. Federer fans...hang in there!

Acording to my experience yes, every lefty I have met played with a two handed backhand. That's probably because of the modern play style, but also because lefties (especially when they are kids) want to keep the rallies alive and win them even during training, so they look for a backhand that enables them to counter the superior power (and % of success) of the righties forehand, this resulting in a "natural" appearance of the two handed backhand. This movement allows them to put more balls into play. So I agree with your previous thoughts.

I was very happy to see Kirsten Flipkins get a win. I remember seeing her a couple of years ago in Fed Cup, and being impressed by her fight!

The men's Queens Club event was fun, culminating in the Rafa v Novak final. Even though Rafa looked good to me on grass, I'm wishin and hopin that my boy Novak serves notice that the "third wheel" is about ready to break through the glass ceiling as top doggie!

Why do I feel on the other side of the fence, that the women are ducking each other until Wimbledon!??!! What happened to the days when the top women would roll into one of the grass court warm ups, say Eastbourne, and duke it out?!

Last week, was everyone but Vaidisova on vacation or "injured" (actually, she was on vacation too...but she was still playing the tournament). This week Kuzzy is there at Eastbourne, but then the next highest seed is Bartoli?! Not to take away from Marion, and its nice to see Amelie and Lindsay have a chance to do well, but I expected to see the WS, Jelena J, Maria, Ana going head to head before Wimbledon. Guess not. Women's tennis sucks, and I write this as one of its biggest fans since 1971!

FoT- Please don't leave us
we know what you mean - but we regulars are still here
just scroll , baby , just scroll
if you need to :)

That was a great Fed Cup tieNancyJ. One of the best I can remember. Belgium versus Italy, no? Not without controversy, but plenty of drama.

"Women's tennis sucks..."

It truly does, Nancy J.

The homogeneity of the playing styles, obnoxious noises, half-assed commitment and indifference towards the fans, constant withdrawals due to injuries that were previously unheard of to medical science, the appalling ratio of unforced errors to winners, Svetlana Kuznetsova...it's all rather pathetic.

Don't agree with the sentiment that Federer gets no respect for his clay court prowess. In fact, right before RG the general consensus was that Federer had a great shot to become the new RG champion. It wasn't until around the quarters that it became clear that Nadal was a different player this year. TW as a whole has acknowledged Federer as the second best clay courter for three consecutive years. It's one of the few things we've all agreed upon.

I do agree with the sentiments about the WTA, however. I cannot believe that I'm saying this, but, I MISS Henin!! I know, shoot me now.

If Fed loses Wimbledon (which I think he will), he will have a very hard time holding onto #1 through the end of the year. He has a lot of points to defend after this point in the season and I think he will be hard pressed to win the majority of them over Djokovic and Nadal, plus whoever else may intermittently play well enough to beat him (and we've seen that a number of times this past year from Nalbandian, Mardy Fish, Roddick, Gonzo). He will eventually lose that ranking. A loss at Wimbledon would unquestionably hasten it.

FoT - I second Beth's plea. Please don't go. For whatever reason this thread for much of the today seems to have been populated by some psuedo-trolls who enjoy throwing *Fed is officially dead* crap and other baiting-type of "opinions." But there are lots of great posters still hanging around here who are usually much more active!!

HI FoT-- just a quicky browse and I see youre signing off! I already did for a bit, who needs a headache every time they log on, right? poor Roger, still NO. 1 by more than 1000 points and he's a hasbeen bum!

lol

it was really really fun seeing Fed perform all this magic over the years, i know that much... the new era of Rafa and Djoker is full of power and raw athleticism and bruising hitting, we saw that at Queens... not as enjoyable as Id anticipated, even Rafa-Djoker was kinda lacking in energy somehow, these two arent going to set the world in fire with their rivalry, thats for sure...

fedex is great ; but his goat status is hype; his no 1 status may last 2008; not 2009 ; might win wimby ; not us open;

Speaking of crap, did anyone see the amazingly ignorant column by "The Sports Guy" Bill Simmons posted on ESPN.com today (its from ESPN The Magazine).

http://tinyurl.com/6chklx

Essentially what he is saying is "I don't know anyone among my Boston peeps and the Hollywood douches that I hang out with who would waste 4 hours of their precious time watching a full tennis match, so I feel solid in announcing that tennis is boring and irrelevant to all sports fans."

It is clear that he knows little to nothing about tennis as it exists today. He probably could not name a current top player other than Federer and Roddick. I love how he basically writes off the entire continents of Europe and South America when he proclaims that "nobody" cares about anything but Wimbledon and the US Open and that "absolutely nobody" cares about the Australian Open.

Fine if Simmons wants to come across as an egomaniacal moron, but I think that column was an embarrasment to ESPN. Tennis is a major sport in the world, whether or not Bill Simmons is interested in it. But he has the ego to think that if he doesn't care, nobody else does.

Jenn,

Unfortunately that is the general consensus around ESPN. If you watch their broadcasts (and I do, but hopefully I'll work up the resolve to soon boycott) none of them take tennis seriously, even in the midst of historic slams. Sportscenter would rather re-run itself endlessly on baseball highlights, football highlights (and it's not even football season!!!), and NASCAR than report on anything tennis related. PTI, one of my absolute favorite programs, rarely mentions anything other than a question, i.e. 'Will Federer win a French? Maybe.' So it isn't just Bill Simmons, hell he works in an environment that promotes tennis apathy. Or at least downgrades tennis to a mere pastime as opposed to a revered sport with history far beyond any of the 'major three' sports that dominate their landscape.

Nancy J,
Since the Williams Sisters start winning in the early 2000s, they do not play the grass warmups. Jelena hurt her forearm in R64 against Erakovic so I can understand her situation. Maria decided to rest and train in Florida instead of playing in B'ham like she do every year. Ana, adductor injury, may have injured it slightly but also she probably celebrated her French Open title longer than she planned(ie - big reception in Serbia ala Novak for AO) and felt like she could not get ready for Eastbourne this week. Svetlana was a late addition to Eastbourne after Tati w/d due to injury. Marion is really a player who should be ranked below 15 at least.

Jenn, that is a total WTF article. So the old problem with tennis is that it wasn't "athletic enough", now it's "too athletic". And evidently Federers come off the assembly line every single day.

*By contrast, a great tennis career always unfolds the same way: Guy kills himself for a few years getting to the top and staying there; guy gets bored; guy starts sleeping with actresses/models; guy drops in the rankings; guy makes a brief resurgence; guy loses hair and retires; guy disappears forever. This has to have happened 47 times since I was 10. I'd argue that we haven't attached ourselves to Federer because we know another Federer will eventually come off the assembly line. Because one always does.*

Did I miss Federer's trysts with actresses and models? Or Borg losing his hair?

I don't have any tennis crazy friends (at least not to the extent I am), but I happen to have known many people from both high school (an ordinary middle class neighborhood) and college (a more "upper class" school that maybe fits more into the sterotypical tennis demographic) that watch the finals for at least Wimbledon and the USO, and some even for the AO. And they watch them essentially through and through.

Jimmy Connors seems to have a lot of hair too.

Kenneth, realistically ESPN is never going to devote the time to tennis or any other "minor" (by American standards) sport on shows like SportsCenter that it does to Football, Baseball and the NBA, but that is different than saying it sucks and nobody cares, in a national column. After all, ESPN is devoting considerable time and resources (on ESPN2) to covering the slams, so you think they would want to convey the exact opposite impression.

hey - so this is where the real people have finally decided to gather
some of these trolls or pseudo trolls are persistent little devils
they just pop up every where

Hi , Jenn - that is shame about ESPN putting that kind of attitude out there
especially since they are going to be the "slam " network
really does seem kind of stupid to belittle your own product