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« CCC: Thursday Crazed in Carson »
Crunch Time for TMF
Posted 07/24/2008 @ 3 :54 PM

Tmf Greetings, everyone. I just thought I'd stop by, while still reeling from the bombshell result of last night. The things that struck me about Federer's loss was less the result itself - it isn't like Gilles Simon is chopped-liver, you know, just ask James Blake. Or Andy Roddick.

The more troubling aspect of the loss - it was The Mighty Fed's first match since Wimbledon - was how he lost. Top competitors at the peak of their form and confidence don't lose 6-4 in the third (that's code for: He was clearly in a cliffhanger) unless unusual factors come into play - Big Luck, a spell of lights-out tennis, injury. . .  It's one thing for a gifted, mercurial player like Simon to catch fire and roll the die all the way to a win; it's quite another for him to battle back from multiple service breaks to take down a dominant player.

My takeaway is that that Federer didn't merely have a bad day; he may have lost a bit of confidence and/or appetite, both of which can be interpreted as signs of career fatigue. I think there can't be any doubt that TMF is, quietly and in his signature, poised, way, in the midst of a something that can't quite be called a crisis, but certainly can be described as a loss of focus. You can hardly blame the poor guy: his focus has been nothing but impeccable since about February of 2004, when he first reached the no. ranking - wrenching it away from Andy Roddick, the 2003 year-end no. 1.

And that brings me to the major issue that might be preying on TMFs mind. If he finishes no. 1 this year, it will be his fifth consecutive year as the year-end top dog - putting him within one of Pete Sampras's record six years at the position (and in Sampras's case, they were consecutive years to boot) Given that Federer already has 12 Grand Slam titles, and seems nearly certain to equal or surpass Sampras's record 14 (after all, he's only 27 this month; Sampras won his final major at age 31),  setting the "most years at no. 1", or the "most consecutive years at no. 1" records must be high on his radar.

But if Federer doesn't finish in the top spot this year, you can throw out the latter out the window, although he'll still have a good shot at the former. I think his decision to play a full schedule in the fall testifies to the importance these records hold for him - especially when you consider the relatively poor showings his main rival, Rafael Nadal, makes in the autumn.

With the Olympic Games and U.S. Open coming up, it begins to look more and more like crunch-time for Federer. These next few weeks may represent a significant juncture in his career - no matter what happens in his chase to become the all-time Grand Slam singles champion. So what are Federer's chances of finishing no. 1 this year? Tom Perrotta told me, "Twenty per-cent, max. More like ten to fifteen percent."

Anybody care to hazard a significantly different number?

On another note I recently read two highly entertaining tennis-related stories;  the first one (sort of) about my Tennis magazine colleague and pal, Tom Perrotta .  The second one is a terrific - and, at times, utterly hilarious - piece on the influence of Michael Chang on "Asian" tennis. This latter piece is so original and inventive, that it makes me feel sheepish for not having considered Chang's career and life from the author's perspective.

I'll be back shortly with a post from a surprise guest!

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FIRST!!!!!!

Roger Federer will win Cincinnati on 08/03/08. He will make the proper adjustment(s).

Pete,

If you wrote this, I would like to congratulate you on your great commentary on TC's series Only at the Open.

hey Pete! the link for Tom didnt work for me. sigh. sort of like Fed's serve last nite. the letter to Michael cracked me up - though sounds like it hitting some really good points at the same time.

Fed's definately got to get his head together and start posting some wins. We'll see what he can pull together for the rest of the year. He MAY pull it off - or he may drop to even third this year.

I do think you're right on the money with the consecutive year end thing - that's a big record for him to be chasing. And as Pete pointed out in his / your book, once you lose that, its gone, you don't get another crack at it. Same with beating Borg's wimby record, Fed won't get another crack at that.

On some level, if Fed loses the chance to grab these huge milestone records that take years to build to, he may be able to just play tennis again; to compete and win a single tourney, not make some milestone. I just hope he continues playing 'cause man, the bottom line is I love watching him play. (though i FAR prefer watching him win!)

whereever Fed ends up this year in the ranking, if he can hold it together and get through it without a mental meltdown would an amazing test of his metal fortitude... Go Roger!

One of the things that surprised me about last night was that he lost serve 5 times(3 of them at love, I believe) after the first set and a half. In the 3rd set, he would do a good job in getting the lead but somehow play a loose game where in the past, he would tighten the "screws". Gilles was steady as usual and kept his errors to a minimum once he adjusted to Roger's game but Roger was missing FH consistently. He was probably surprised that Gilles was playing the FH more than his opponents(especially Rafael) usually does. Opponents would "pepper" his BH.

Fed is in a deep confidence and maybe even motivational crisis. I do think that the problem is in his head and i think it dates back longer than people think. I think he started to get derailed when he could not figure out Nadal and let him get in his head. Even last year, he didnt really deserve 3 majors, just think how badly Djokovic choked at the US Open and Nadal arguable could have won Wimbledon if he hadn't injured himself in the final, thereby giving Federer time to regroup after the lost 4th set.

I am a big Federer fan, but I do think more than anything he needs to take off some time and regroup. He needs to let go of the No1 ranking (which he will inevitably lose) and get rid of some of the monster (i.e. pressure) that he puts on himself. He also needs somebody who does more than stroke his ego and is honest with him. (I nominate Daren Cahill!!!)

He also needs to get back to the drawing board and add things to his game. He's still only 27, probably has a good 3-4 years in him physically, but he needs to be more agressive, because he wont be able to keep winning against the youngsters from the baseline. Kinda how played against Simon in the first set until the wheels started to come off.

PS was anybody else appauled by the last game Roger played, shanking three easy groundies to hand Simon the match. I mean, common, at least give the opponent a chance to choke...!

15% may be a little too generous right now, unless Rafa tanks out REAL early somewhere.

And even that may not be enough.

TMF will be back better then ever. Just you wait.

What right to any of us have to question Federer's focus or drive, especially as this may, in retrospect, just be a blip in a 16+ major career. But I think of the contrasts with Pete Sampras. It seems that Federer has had fewer "gut-check" matches that Pete did, obviously excepting last month's Wimbledon final. I have only gotten to see Federer play live singles once--at the Indian Wells semis this year when he lost to Fish. Being able to watch him between points and between games it just didn't seem like he was going to leave everything on the court in order to beat Fish. Maybe it's just his countenance that is deceiving, but I recall Sampras working insanely hard in a number of matches outside of the majors to stay at number one for 6 years. As the Tennis Channel Signature Series and Pete's book emphasize, it's that determination to get the break at 4-4 in the third that separated Pete from others. If Federer can't get that done every time in every tournament for the next few years he may actually end up healthier for it and not lose his hair in bunches like Sampras. But again, who am I to question what kind of fight is going on inside Roger just because he always looks so smooth on the outside?

I've passed denial and acepted that the TMF party is over. He's now 'just' a very good tennis player, not existing on a different plane as he did for 4 yrs. I'm satisfied. Whatever he wins from henceforth will be hard-fought icing on a very large cake.

thanks pete for the link to the Chang article - it was illuminating. Kind of made me think of all the Soviettes desperate to be nothing like Kournikova, despite the fact she's been more successful than all but a handful of her compatriots.

The 15% might have been an OK number before Toronto, but now that Fed's out in the 1st round, it's very unlikely.

That article on Michael Chang makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time.

Master Ace - 'the adjustment' that Fed needs to make over last night's match, is keeping the ball in the court.

I have never fully bought into the 'Nadal is in his head theory' either ... it is more complicated than that. On clay and, to a certain extent, the new and slower grass of Wimby, the match up against Nadal is just really bad for Fed. On clay I think he does doubt his ability to defeat Rafa. On grass I think he will be ferociously determined to get 'his' title back. Oh hard courts... well... it really has been pretty much the other way around, at least of late. Fed beat Rafa soundly at TMC in Shaghai and beat him the year before there as well. Playing well and on a decently fast hard court, I give the edge to Fed. And I think Fed feels the same.

As to what this year has meant and means in the saga of his overall career, well I confess I don't have a clue. There is a poster at RF.com who thinks its all astrological... makes as much sense as anything else.

I think the mood here at Toronto among the Swiss camp is concerned, but not desperate.

I've talked with several journalists here, including some Swiss. One particularly astute observation was that Federer had had to work so hard to get his conditioning back that he'd not been able to respond to the improvements in technique demonstrated by Nadal.

Apparently, he's had very little time on court with Higueras to work on this since they got together - there's been a lot of "table talk," and I haven't heard (or seen) anything that suggests there's unhappiness about the way that the relationship is developing. But Federer now recognizes that to get back up a level, he has to be able to do different things, both with his racquet and the patterns that he uses.

Wawrinka (who just lost a close match to Murray) is thought to be hoping to assist Federer by giving him court time with the doubles.

This loss was the second time this season that Federer has established a set lead against an opponent playing relatively poorly, then basically donated games through flubs and overhitting. Ramirez-Hidalgo was the first, and Federer barely survived that one (you can argue that he was close to the brink against Denis Gremelmeyer in Estoril SF as well). This loss of focus, particularly when up against an opponent that he'd normally expect to beat, is more troubling to me than the drubbing at Nadal's hands in RG.

Federer's long reign at no 1 depended on his ability to ruthlessly go for his shots at 5-5, 15-30 in the third, as well as 6-2 4-2 up. A positive development would be to work with Higueras and Luthi on technique and patterns. But neither man (nor Mirka, nor anyone else) can help him find that astonishing balance of speed and control which have been his signature for so long.

BTW, one other comment was how instrumental Pierre Paganini has been in developing all the Swiss players, not just Federer. Arguments that Federer needs to get a new conditioning trainer are way off the mark, IMV.

Now, whatever Gilles Simon is paying HIS conditioning trainer, he ought to up it...

"If Federer can't get that done every time in every tournament for the next few years he may actually end up healthier for it and not lose his hair in bunches like Sampras."

Too true, is is really worth the stress? Is anything ever enough? With rabid naysayers ever-eager to tear down those who've earned their respect, Fed may be better off (in life terms, not myopic tennis terms) just 'pulling a Borg' and walking away from the circus. Let's see what the ratings will be finals that read: Djokovic vs Davydenko finals.

Pshaw. Talk to me after the USO.


*grin*

This talk of Sampras's time at #1 had to be qualified endlessly with this phrase "end of the year" to give it any weight at all. Let's remember that from the time he took over #1 the first time, there were a number of guys that found themselves in and out of the # 1 Ranking during those six years: Courier, Agassi, Muster, Kafelnikov, Rios, and maybe even Moya by that point. And in 1995 Sampras "ended" that year at #1 for the sole reason that Agassi went on elective hiatus after losing the US Open Final. Had Andre decided to play and win a just a few more matches that fall he'd have kept the #1 ranking at "the end of" 1995 and busted up Sampras's consecutive run.

What sets Federer apart from Sampras is that once Federer took over the #1 Ranking nobody has even come close to taking it for 234 straight weeks. So what's better? Consecutive years with gaps in between of someone else in the top spot, or consecutive years with no one else in the top spot? I vote Federer.

excuse my sloppy typing

Imo: I think he started to get derailed when he couldn't train enough due to his illness; he even said it himself that that's "been tough"...

We'll see what 2009 or the near future brings in him, gl Roger!

And Pete, don't just count Rafa out yet of this end of season lol
After all, all he needs is to be max 700 points behind then Roger on HC, to become #1, according to some calculations, correct?

I give more weight to 234 consecutive weeks at #1 than 6 'year end' #1s with several frequent losses of the top ranking sprinkled therein.

That Chang article is spectacularly bad.

Damn, Roddick lost again today, got hit off the court as usual it seems

that chang article is hilarious.

Nick: It's no contest. 234 consecutive weeks boggles the mind. I think Conner's is next with 180.

Andrew: *One particularly astute observation was that Federer had had to work so hard to get his conditioning back that he'd not been able to respond to the improvements in technique demonstrated by Nadal.*

I've thought this myself. Federer needs the off-season to improve, especially given the compressed schedule that he feels he needs to fully partake in.

But this match had very little to do with that, and everything to do with an increasing lack of confidence as the match wore on.

I meant to say as I "assume" Pete's book on Sampras emphasizes as I have not read it. I plan to buy it today to read on a trip. My apologies to Pete.

yea roger will cincy. wait if he doesn't do that he will certainly win the gold in beijing. but wait if he still doesn't do that he will certainly win the USO, right??? stop it people!

Andrew - thanks for wieghing in with the behind the scenes info. I agree - the most troubling thing to me isn't fed's game, or shots etc, but his lack of focus. tennis is mental. There's a good part of me that thinks the man needs a couple months off where he can regroup, but that aint gonna happen.

Nice thoughts, Pete. I saw the match from start to finish yesterday and a thought entered my mind at some point in the beginning of the second set. I was like, how could this guy(Federer) not be bored with so much tennis especially in tournaments like the master's series which dont matter in the long run but really matters a lot for day-to day ranking points. He has multiple masters shields. He has already achieved a lot in his career. A win or loss in a Master's series is not going to enhance or tarnish his legacy anymore or anyless. All he needs is a couple more grand slams and a few more odd milestones like the olympics and the daviscup to put an exclamation point to his career.
Sure enough mid-way through the second set he started playing a little listlessly and could not get into Simon's service games. Worse was he started playing badly in his own service games, could hardly buy an ace. Still with all that sloppy play he had too many chances to win the match. Gilles did great, he didnt play spectacular tennis to wake-up Federer, he just put enough balls in play in the second and third set and let TMF do the errors, this has become a standard method do beat TMF these days in a three-set format. It does seem to work simply becoz Fed is not really really hungry to win these matches. Fed wants to do the minimum and get the win and that strategy has not been working this year.
I, think during the clay season he made the finals of two Masters only to lose to Nadal, clay season still meant something and he had to take it seriously becos of the French open which he hasnt won. Same with Halle, before Wimbledon. I am sure, he will try to win something before the US open to keep his confidence going for the Open.

Being a Fed fan I am just trying to rationalize his latest loss. And, I think with all the pressure, he is a little confused how he wants to handle these masters series and other smaller tournaments.
Sigh!, this year would have turned out differently if he had served out the first set against Novak at the Aussie semis. But then again Novak could have won in four.

I have to say,
I googled Perrotta once to find out how to spell his last name (2 rs, 2 ts) and was thoroughly impressed to learn that he had written the screen play for Election. I am still somewhat unsure how to spell his name though.

Aww...Hallelujah. Well, hallelujah! :) I very much agree with everything you posted today. Great perspective.

And Andrew...thank you for those thoughts. Hope you're enjoying your time in Toronto. :)

That Slate article about Chang really cracks me up .. LOL

So, +Hallelujah, I take it you would rather sweep the playoff, 4-0, and win three consecutive Stanley Cups, than win the Stanley Cup for six consecutive years, losing a few games along the way?

Hi Pete,

Thanks for taking the time to write this insightful piece on Roger. I really get what you are saying about Fed not merely having a bad day, but also a loss of confidence and/or appetite. The "appetite' thoughts, in MHO, are particularly insightful; I was actually thinking about his lack of intensity during the Simon match. He seemed burned out. Or, as you more elegantly put it:

* I think there can't be any doubt that TMF is, quietly and in his signature, poised, way, in the midst of a something that can't quite be called a crisis, but certainly can be described as a loss of focus. *


I freaking love that Chang piece.

Did Roger change his conditioning trainer last year? He seems to have developed some muscles and lost some speed. His closed stance forehand footwork also looks suspicious, he looks awkward sometimes.

fedex cannot beat nadal on clay and possibly grass and will lose to joker on hard courts hereonwards;

fedex is one of the GOATs;

not the GOAT ;

Would the Patriots have traded a few losses this season for the superbowl win?

I think it's clear, based on the kinds of things Federer has said over the past few years, that cementing his place in the history books is very important to him. In one sense, he's already done enough - if he walked away today, he would doubtlessly be remembered as a player who achieved an unparalleled level of dominance over the field for a five-year stretch. GOAT-talk is always going to want for objective standards, but I think he's got the "most dominant ever" title nailed down.

But it's also clearly not enough - for him, at least. He wants to break Sampras's records. He wants (though maybe he's started to let this one go) a Career Slam. He wanted to break Borg's Wimbledon record. But those pursuits put him in a double-bind: they weigh on him terribly, and probably add a great deal of needless stress as the gap between him and his closest competitors begins to narrow. But without those goals to aim for, why keep going at all? Why deal with the hassles and the disappointments? One can imagine Federer afflicted with the worst of both worlds: the anxiety of chasing history, and the ennui of already having written it.

Umm...I don't think that is the same thing, Pete. :) I happen to think the consecutive weeks is pretty impressive. Maybe not *more* impressive than the consecutive year end No. 1 rankings, but that part of your piece just seemed a little off to me. I'd be surprised if going for that particular record is really stressing Roger at this point. As a fan, I would hope it isn't.

Hey Gerry - thanks for buying the book! And MRI, I agree with your sentiments. But one of the markers for greatness in anything is the emotional, mental, and physical stamina it takes to dominate over a long period of time. I'm not saying Roger doesn't have it, but I'm suggesting that we'll be finding out the answer to that question in the coming months, and next few years. And while I certainly am not an impartial observor owing to my relationship with Pete, Federer's current situation only heightens my respect for what Pete achieved (if you share my respect for the year-end no. 1 ranking) - and reminds me that Pete, too, went through times, especially when Agassi and then Rios pressed him, when the same issues being raised here about TMF could have been (and were) raised about him. The truth is that I have no idea what will happen; I wouldn't be much interested if I did.

fedex has dominated the safin-hewitt-roddick generation;

but fedex cannot dominate nadal & joker ;

not when nadal and joker are reaching their prime, at 22, 21..

fedex has been great ;

one of the GOATs; not the GOAT;

amen, hallelujah! see what more than a dose of healthy perspective can do to your fan-hood? makes you more relaxed, no? and you get to enjoy the beauty of that scrumptious cake, besides. don't forget the bubblies to go with it... that roger, i'm tellin' ya, is way better than pete ever was. in my tiny book, and sometimes, all that matters at the end of the day is peace at mind. yours. and your mind is mighty stable. :)

the quality of fedex's opponents was not high;

safin, hewitt, roddick;

nadal and joker are tougher and will dominate fedex

Markic, maybe they don't want to be like her because winning a singles title is an important achievement. Just a thought. In regards to Michael Chang, I'm still not sure he deserved to be put into the THOF based on his credentials. In regards to Roger, I think with all the recent criticism, people need to focus on the achievements. When is the next time you are going to see a player dominate the way he has? When are you going to see a player win 3 slams in back to back years? When are you going to see a player hold the #1 position for so long? His achievements are unbelievable and I doubt is they will ever be repeated. Can a good case be made for the GOAT. Yes, based on the simple fact that it is highly unlikely that a player will match his achievements in the near future. Go Caroline, Scandinavia's #1!

Tari, I feel for you, I honestly do, but not to the extent that I would disavow my analogy. I actually think it holds up, and fairly precisely. Which doesn't mean we have to agree, but those seem like the choices and we're all free to embrace what we wish.

pete

my mom just got her copy of your book which i mailed to her through a barnes and nobles online order. it took a while to get to manila from wherever the warehouse of b & n is. i know she'll love it. i said something like about my favourite pete writing about her favourite pete. :)

now that you mention it above, that respect for the year end number one ranking is significant in light of what rafa has achieved this year.

*chewing on that thought*

Roger DID thoroughly dominate for a long period of time already. And he dominated more completely than anyone probably every will again. I think that's the point of the consecutive weeks, and match records/streaks during that time as well.

Eventually, you become less dominant. It's just a natural thing that is bound to happen. That should take nothing away from the period of time that he *did* dominate. And with Nadal and Djokovic, we are talking about players well younger than him at this point, in tennis age. Not really quite the same thing as dominating his generation...

We all praise Fed for the records: 17 straight semifinals, 200+ weeks at number one, being good in every single part of the season and not getting injured. But in a way, losing early at a slam, or getting a mild injury, or having a part of the season which you don't regularly go deep, provides a break, both mental and physical. And Federer hasn't had those breaks, especially in '06 and '07. This has to take a toll, and to a certain extent we're seeing that.

Hypothetical question: if this had a been a first round encounter at the USO (though Simon's ranking is too high for this to have been a possible encounter), would Federer have pulled out the W?

John, unless you can see (literally) into the future, I'd suggest you stop making early predictions on whether or not Fed will never again beat Djoker and Nadal (either on grass or hardcourt- I've given up on clay now) and win more Grand Slam. Fed only has 3 Grand Slams to win to surpass Pete's record and be THE GOAT! Let's see, 3 Grand Slams in 4 years (minimum). I think he can do it. He's not on his deathbed yet and he's still young (26 people not 35!).

And please, do tell, who do you think will be The GOAT? Nadal, Djoker???

Well, thank you, Pete! But it is not about feeling for me. :) I don't see the Stanley Cup analogy as the same, is all. But I do see what you are trying to get at. And I sort of tried to address that in my next post. :)

FWIW, I'm not hung up on comparing Roger to Sampras, btw...or the whole GOAT thing. Not even sure I care that much about Roger getting more slams than Pete. I think this talk is still very, very premature, and will need a lot of distance to assess. Hard to do in the thick of it.

I've been told - by a very reliable source -- that Mirka is pregnant. I haven't heard any mention of that here. TMF was mighty testy last night. He played quickly, looking as if he was antsy. Who knows. None of us really do. The mark on his right cheek, I learned, is the remnants of a boil. That's stress. It's stressful at the top.

He has lost his concentration. He is not at peace. It will pass. Question is, will I survive the roller coaster ride as my beloved Roger goes through the grinder.

"The more troubling aspect of the loss...was how he lost. I think there can't be any doubt that TMF is, quietly and in his signature, poised, way, in the midst of a something that can't quite be called a crisis, but certainly can be described as a loss of focus."

Pete -

This is exactly how I saw last night's match.
I've always been someone who avoided panic when Roger lost, vocally supporting a wait-n-see attitude.

Until yesterday.

His focus and confidence are not at his command, which is truly disturbing to this fan.
And these intangibles are as hard to hold as a greased pig when they decide to slip from your grip...

Oh man, the Federbaby rumor wiggles its tiny toes again.

Hey everyone, just a special request to be considerate of others in these back and forths, and to resist both baiting - and, perhaps more importantly, rising to the bait.

Embug, I love gossip, so what is your source for the Mirka story?

congratulations Bodo! wasn't this what you wanted??? your wish has been granted (almost) at last!

Pete-
It must be tricky for you journalists to bring up anything approaching a lack of focus/intensity with a player like Federer--although I imagine that he would be more gracious than most. If I were a player I would surely bite back that you have NO idea what I go through, etc.

Of course, Swissie, I'm dancing on my desk and ecstatic that one of the greatest players of all time and an exemplary sportsman is having trouble. It really makes my day. Sheeesh. . . .

Let me just elaborate (just cuz I feel like you think I'm being to picky, lol), Pete, about the Stanley Cup analogy. My immediate reaction was that being ranked number one, day in and day out in the tennis world means a lot more than whether you drop a few games on the way to the Cup in hockey, is all. With hockey, it is all about the Cup. I'm probably mucking this up, but as I said, I do see what you are saying.

Let's put it this way: If you have two players, one who was ranked number one and never dropped from the spot for four years straight, and another who finished four years straight, but dropped from the spot here and there, which is more impressive?
Well, of course the consecutive weeks...but how much more impressive? That is the question I think we'll be assessing down the road.

Gerry, you know, it isn't tricky at all - it just depends on how you ask, and what - if any - standing you and your opinion have in the eye of the player. Had lunch with El Jon today, though, and we both think that TMF has really soured on the media, and for understandable reasons. Apparently, the first question asked of Roger in his presser was something on the order of: "Do you now have any sympathy for the decision Justine Henin took a few months ago?" As I wrote in my last Comment, Sheesh. . .

Crayzone: *wiggles its tiny toes again.* lol. now, that is funny.

LOL that was funny Pete. Geez, everybody has to find somebody to blame. Ciao dudes!

Embug,
The Mirka story has been mentioned earlier this year especially at IW when Fish beat Roger in straights. People was wondering where Mirka was and will she be with him at Key Biscayne.

Pete, nice piece. In my opinion, this is all a confidence and pressure issue, and has nothing or little to do with Federer's conditioning or mono.

In 2004-2007, Federer would routinely win matches in Master's Series tourneys while playing sluggishly for long stretches (particularly second sets) against good-but-not-great players like Malisse, etc. He did this because he played better on the big points, a mark of supreme confidence and ease.

These days, he is losing those same points, at no time as shockingly as last night. By the end of that match, Federer could barely keep the ball in play.

I believe he needs a break from the pressure; it's too relentless. He's not enjoying himself out there. Perhaps it's because he needs to put in so much effort simply to maintain accomplishments he has already tasted and held for so long. He's been so good for so long, that the only place to go is down or stay level, which means it's all risk and no new reward. (The exception being the French, where his hopes were thoroughly dashed this year.)

Great piece on Chang -- thanks for posting the link.

I take your point Tari, but I believe that for the great players it's all about the major titles, and the year-end rankings, while consecutive weeks at no. 1, streaks, etc. all come behind them. Let me put it this way: Is holding onto no. 1 for 33 straight weeks, but losing the year-end no. 1 to someone who's only held the top-ranking with interruptions, more satisfying than the other way around?

No, I definitely agree with that last post, Pete. I'm simply saying consecutive AND year end number ones year after year is something we are not going to see for a long, long time. Not like this. So it is new territory. But I do agree on the order of things with the greats. :)

Btw, thanks for the acknowledgement of the tough treatment by the media, Pete.

And great post, Asad! Yeah. I just want him to get back to looking like he enjoys being out there again. That would be a welcome sight. It's been a while. :)

I apologize Bodo. I'm just frustrated and I let it out as I've read you being so critical of my favorite player but I understand it is your job.

I don't even care about the year end ranking or if Roger will win his 13th Slam here in New York, what I care about is that last night he seemed like he did not care at all, specially in his last service game when Simon broke him for the match, Federer was not there...

Pete, thank you for your 5:28 post. I don't know if you've seen some of the back and forth we had on the CC: Thursday thread about this, but I held that that question was in poor taste. And I had in mind what you said about questions like that raising doubts in Pete Sampras' head that weren't there in the first place. I loved your answer to SwissMaestro but when some of those so-called journalists ask questions like that to Federer (and other players), I do get the feeling that they're "dancing on their desks and ecstatic that one of the greatest players of all time and an exemplary sportsman is having trouble."

Pete:

CC: Tari

First off, "A Champion's Mind"--purchased and then devoured in a few short hours--was a terrific read. Thanks for collaborating with Mr. Sampras to produce such a fine work.

I think the truly salient aspect of this conversation is that Federer has to make a choice or three about what really matters to his career: the No. 1 rankings, or the slams.

In light of this, there are a few calculations Fed has to make, calculations in terms of when and where to invest a little more (or a little less) energy, physically and mentally.

Yes, an event like Toronto--a few events removed from big deals such as the Olympics and the Open--is precisely the kind of venue in which appetite will diminish, at least to a certain extent. In a year without the Olympics, and with a longer post-Wimby break, there would have been more appetite (Roger's Toronto in 2006 supremely showed how much appetite he had then in the same city where he lost last night.). But it isn't surprising that there was less appetite last night. (The loss was surprising, but not the loss of appetite.)

The past two years, Fed's appetite for Indian Wells and Miami has clearly diminished, because of the emotional centrality of the clay-court season for Fed, given the emotional and historic centrality of the French Open.

The above examples point to conflicting ways of dealing with the calendar: Should Fed invest more in the spring hardcourt season, and less in the summer hardcourt (pre-Open) season? One approach would value the No. 1 ranking more; the other approach would reserve energy and focus for the French and US Opens.

This brings a follow-up question to the fore: Should Fed focus less on the French (given Nadal's unreal excellence on dirt right now) and devote more focus to the non-clay part of his calendar to buttress his ranking status?

Following the ebb-and-flow of Roger's recent undisputed reign (now over in light of Nadal's rise to the throne), I could look at the calendar and identify the points at which winning didn't matter quite as much. Frankly, if I were in Roger's shoes, I would have not done a thing differently. I wouldn't have spilled the proverbial tank in Indian Wells or Miami myself in '07, given the French being on the horizon. Roger's points of emphasis have been almost unerringly appropriate, part of the reason he's stayed atop the game for so long.

Now, this piece above accurately captures the tensions Fed is facing. But wrapped inside these tensions are decisions Fed is making about what matters to him. The more Fed mentally devotes to a certain goal or accomplishment, the more it will indeed shake his confidence if he fails to attain it. So Fed needs to pick and choose his spots.

If I'm Fed, I focus on the slams, first and foremost. Nothing ever should matter more than those. Within that context, Fed should--in the short run--devote more mental energy to the three slams other than the French, in order to pass Sampras's record and clear that hurdle sooner rather than later. When the 14 slams are hurdled, I think Fed can then take a cosmic deep breath and, in the time remaining in his career, spill the tank at the French. But short-term (2009), Fed should pursue the Aussie, US, and especially Wimby like the devil, with the French being an ever-so-slightly (not much, just a little) decreased priority in his mind. Going after IW and Key Biscayne with added gusto would, moreover, offer rankings points in the chase for No. 1, but I view that as a side issue.

The dealbreaker (or perhaps, deal-maker, depending on your point of view) for me in this larger context is that having the No. 1 ranking for Federer, at this point, is in so many ways a technicality. Perhaps for Roger, that doesn't matter, and I can't change his mind about that. But if I were in Roger's shoes--and this, to me, is the only change he REALLY, REALLY needs to make with his mindset right now--I would say to myself, "How much meaning can be associated with or derived from such a technical/academic distinction? How can I sit here and view myself as the No. 1 player in the world when Rafa has achieved the Channel Slam and I've just lost my first match in Toronto?"

This is not defeatist talk coming from me; this is an attempt to shift the mindset and refocus on what matters. If Fed wins the US Open, he gets to No. 13 and is the prohibitive favorite in Melbourne for No. 14. Even with a washout at the French, he enters Wimby with No. 15 in sight, and if he plays Rafa in the finals with Sampras sitting in the Royal box alongside Borg, I'd feel that Roger would be just a wee bit inspired to win.

So it's very much about the battles Roger does and doesn't choose. I have my own viewpoints on the subject. I hope Roger will adjust his mindset and his points of emphasis. What's a ranking (or any distinction) worth when it's a ranking in name only? He's No. 1 right now in the rankings? A very nominal distintion. Fed should spiritually surrender to that and experience the inner liberation that happens to human beings when they spiritually surrender.

I'll be back later.

For now, thanks for a fascinating discussion raised by a typically insightful and thoughtful piece of tennis writing.

And Tari, again, don't you worry. As Ali C says, "Talk to me after the US Open." :-) :-)

Thanks Tari! I felt a bit sick and very sad for Roger in that last service game. His will to win wasn't really there which is VERY rare to see with him. As Dunlop has said so many times, Federer's competitive will to win every match is unparalleled (as opposed to Sampras, whose will to win non-Slams was, um, questionable).

But this year has been really rough. Even I could see the difference in his mood between the U.S. Open and Rome.

My theory is that he needs to fall down to where he has stuff to gain again by winning; then when he's counted out, COMEBACK. It'll be AgassiFed!

What the hail is going on with Roddick?? Why can't he beat anybody anymore? Why is he playing so passively? Whatever happened to that massive forehand of his from a bygone era? Why does he always lose when opportunity comes knocking on his door? Can somebody please help him????

The stat most often cited is the 234 consecutive weeks as Number One. It is a record that no one alive or dead holds, but Roger. It's very possible, and quite likely, that this record will never be broken. Whereas, six consecutive year end No. One might be, though that's remote also, with the exception of Roger's attaining that feat. I can't image that losing the No. One ranking off and on throughout the year, only to somehow regain it at year end, quite stacks up to the unprecedented long-term monopoly of the No. 1 ranking.

"I take it you would rather sweep the playoff, 4-0, and win three consecutive Stanley Cups, than win the Stanley Cup for six consecutive years, losing a few games along the way?"

As with some others above, I don't think this analogy works, Pete. Winning the Stanley Cup is in and of itself the primary goal for all teams in hockey. It is the point of the regular season, to a large degree. Being ranked #1 on Dec. 31 is relatively arbitrary in comparison. Personally, I think Federer's accomplishment of consecutive weeks at #1 shows far more true dominance for that period than Sampras being ranked #1 on Dec. 31 for 6 consecutive years shows for that period. No one would ever think to say that he was the best player for that whole 6 year period, and no one could seriously doubt that Federer has been the best player overall for his consecutive weeks at #1 save for this tail end.

Agree with the rest of the post. I think this is a crisis of confidence and that's far more dangerous than something like a short-term injury.

My theory is that he needs to fall down to where he has stuff to gain again by winning; then when he's counted out, COMEBACK. It'll be AgassiFed!

I could totally buy into this one, Asad. It might help him to not be expected to win every match he goes into.

Also, imagine the loss to Simon never happened, Fed makes the finals of Toronto, loses to Djokovic, wins Cincy, loses the USO final to Djokovic, wins Madrid and Paris, wins the TMC and manages to capture the YE #1 without winning a slam while Nadal falters on hard and Djokovic's early loss at Wimbledon and in the indoor hard court season comes back to bite him. Would you really regard Federer's getting to YE #1 as a higher accomplishment than Nadal's FO-Wimbledon double, or even Djokovic's AO-USO double? But in hockey, the Stanley Cup is the end all be all, so there's no analogy.

In Sampras' 1998, the last year he made number one, he made the QFs of the Australian, the 2R of the FO, a W at Wimbledon, and a SF at the USO, and the finals of two masters series tournaments: Cincy and Paris. Federer lost Wimbledon, yes, but the rest of his year has been far more impressive. So my other point is that #1 is much more of a relative thing--Nadal's years at #2 have been more impressive than Moya or Ferrero's at #1....

AgassiFed would be fantastic, Asad!

And Matt...I'm a worrier! My son's best friend calls me the "Wonder Worrier", lol. But I'm actually taking all of this very well, and still have great hope going forward.

Roddick needs to be crawling on his belly over hot coals to kiss Brad Gilberts furry butt. He needs someone to fix the mess that is his game now.
His game has gone south and Andy looks as pathetic as we have seen Blake look this season.All the americans just can't get it up this year, they all need some mental viagra.
With FADErer struggling , Cloddick should be licking his chops, not licking his wounds!

Yes, ptenisnet, yes. Don't you just relish the idea of everyone considering Fed a also-ran, over it, and he comes into the 2009 French ranked like 7 or 8 and then just creams everyone? Admit it, it's a cool thought...

Asad Raza, I have this vision of Federer winning the French in 2011 Goran Ivanisevic style...

Was it a tank last night? If it wasn't then it comes as close to one as you will ever see. Fed wants the Olympic Gold and a long wet week in Tonto was not in the cards. Look for Fed with the gold in a few weeks!

It's a lovely thought asad. more sampras like than agassi like, but why the heck not. I mean, until quite recently, hanging around in the top ten and then making a spectacular run in a slam was the standard way of doing things no?

Fuzzy, you've used dry hump and Brad Gilberts furry butt in the same day. These aren't uplifting images. LOL. :)

But I agree. Andy needs something to kick start things.

I must admit, I'm having a hard time getting worked up about Roger. He played ONE crappy match. One. He came back from mono to kick non-Nadal butt on his worst surface. Then kicked even more non-Nadal butt on grass. Then he gets less post-Wimby time off than usual, comes out flat, serves like me, and can't find the forehand.

If he gets beat before the Cincy and USO semis, call Ali. Otherwise, I'm still as confident as ever in what Mr. Federer can do.

Did anybody hear about Federer not getting his favorite suite at the Hilton he stays at every year? It seemed like quite a mess. Maybe that whole deal messed with his mind a bit?

Pete, I first read the title as Church time for TMF.

Agree with Asad, the pressure must be intense for Fed.

Great article on Chang. Fantastic writing. I'm a disappointed Federer fan, and now my fluid forehand is failing--I just can't get it by my elevn year old any more. It's all down hill from here. You've ruined by tennis life, Roger. :)

Pete i am hoping and praying that you and a few of your more conscientious journo buddies let out a good long loud and pointed sheesh at the fool that asked that Henin question.
Please please tell me you did.

Sherlock
sorry , hearing them together is regurgitational

Matt: though none of us can say so with certainty, the possibility exists that now that Rafa has got his hands on the Wimbledon trophy, it will be as difficult to prise away from from him as it was to prise away from Fed in the past few years - or to get the Coupe des Mousquetaires in Paris. The Borg/Rafa comparisons may be blinding me, but as you know, I have always linked those two players in my mind. It wouldn't surprise me much if Fed's future Slams, assuming they happen, all come on hardcourts. I guess what I'm saying is that, right now, I see Rafa as the best grasscourt player in the world. This was not the case last year. He has improved, and is working to improve further. In addition to the final, I look at how he disposed of Djokovic at Queen's, compared to the edgy semifinal they had at last year's Wimbledon. And how he has put away some of the big servers who used to trouble him. Can Fed win Wimbledon again? Of course, but he'll be lucky if he doesn't find himself needing to put away Rafa in the process. What happens (I ask, theoretically speaking) if Rafa somehow manages to use his confidence gained in winning the last two Slams, and his more aggressive game, to do better than ever before at the US Open? Is it beyond him to win it? I don't think so. I don't expect it, but it's possible. Rafa, like Fed, is a confidence player, and I'm very interested in the question of how far his confidence, coupled with his hard work and dogged determination and tennis intelligence, can take him on the biggest stages. And then there's Djokovic. Each Slam can only have one winner.

As Pete said in his "Shadow Federer" post, linked on the Thursday CCC, the last three Slams to get the record will be the most difficult ones. Quite possibly, these will be the most character-defining ones, in a way that was not possible during the earlier period of dominance.

I put nothing beyond Federer - he could also confound everyone and blow away the competition in straight sets in every round of this year's US Open., or next year's AO.

Yeah, I read the article. I'm not sure about the validity of it, there's a suit called the Roger Federer suit in his favorite hotel, and they gave it to someone else, or something.

I think it's a bunch of nonesense, but who knows.

As for Mirka being pregnant - Roger should have been the father of three right now, had all those baby rumors came true...

Optimal years for a tennis career: 17-26. After that, it is all a torture.
They should all consider table tennis: http://www.ittf.com/_front_page/ittf1.asp?category=ittv_nov_07

That is my next sport, anyway. Just one hour or competitive table tennis - the best workout you can get. No injuries, don't have to be extra fit, no expensive club fees...perfect!

CL: Hasn't Roger been winning on "the new and slower grass of Wimby" himself from 2003-2007, twice against Rafa? The speed was changed earlier in the decade, not this year.

Besides, the grass at Queen's is faster, and Rafa did pretty well there.

That said, I agree that the Nadal matchup on grass isn't the easiest for him...

Just saying...

Roger Federer is no Pete Sampras or Rod Laver. He plays as though
he has lost interest and the competition is beneath him. By the end of the U.S. Open someone else will be number one. He may win another slam, but something has to change, and soon.

I think the year end ranking is very important to Federer; which is why he added stockholm to his schedule this year. i think he was planning in trying to hold off a run by either rafa or nole for the ranking.

I gotta say i'm with Pete on this one - I think Fed would WAY rather let the consecutive weeks title go, and keep the consecutive year end #1. Both are impressive, but he's alreay got 1 sewn up; the other he sees may be slipping through his grasp. (but it aint over till its over - otherwise we wouldn't have to play the matches, no?)

IF Fed has to loose the ranking and the year end though, I do hope that he would be able to come up and just play with the joy of the game, and the competition again. If he can reconcile with not being the top dog, i think he will be the top 10 floater-from-hail at the big tourney's, and could continue giving players absolute fits for years to come. (at least that's what I hope!)

Samantha Elin, et al... the source for baby rumor is the man who reps Nike tennis specialty to my little enclave of a tennis shop. He said, "Nike released the information." I heard the rumors from IW, too, about a pregnancy. So... we'll see. If my rep told me a funny - like not so funny -- I'll make a huge gigantic extraordinarily large apology and eat a plate of crow pie.

Hey, jb! Hmm...something got lost in translation, I think. :) But my original post spoke to whether Roger is all caught up in stress over the year end ranking - and how that is affecting his results (if I read Pete right). Anyway, I've no doubt it means plenty to him, though, and agree that if he can hang onto that, he surely wouldn't care about the consecutive thing.

My hope is that he is just trying to put this thing back on track, and focusing on that. Everything else is just too much to contemplate right now. Well, at least for me... :)

embug: When was this, that the Nike rep told you that? Do you mind saying? Way back during IW?

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