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Your Call, Aug. 20 08/20/2008 - 10:52 AM

Smallyourcall_5 Mornin', everyone. I'm going out to the US Open qualies today, to pick up my credentials and poke around a little. Not much more to add for now, except to say that I'll be posting later in the day, and expect to bump into some of you out at the BJKNTC this afternoon. Tomorrow, we have the US Open official draw ceremony, and then Friday I'll be back out at Flushing Meadow. Enjoy today's tennis action and comment on it here. Also, keep your eyes open for Thursday's Deuce Club posts, where I'm going to ask those of you who will be attending the US Open, and may want to hook up with fellow TWibe membere, to make yourselves know.


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Posted by Tari 08/20/2008 at 05:36 PM

Hi, Lisa! Well, I don't know about Sam and Matt, but I have decided to drink heavily.

Posted by Sam 08/20/2008 at 05:36 PM

LOL Tari!

Posted by naughty T 08/20/2008 at 05:37 PM

Jacko is clearly of an age where he will never lose his mojo.... pay attention NP

Posted by Jacko (Private Detective) 08/20/2008 at 05:39 PM

nT . . . . .what mojo??

it came across to me as if you'd taken away all my childlike innocence!!!

*batts eyelids!!*

LOL

Posted by naughty T 08/20/2008 at 05:39 PM

Me too Tari. Can't hurt surely

Posted by Sam 08/20/2008 at 05:39 PM

Hi Lisa!!

gauloises: The only Luka I know lives on the second floor.

Posted by Nancy 08/20/2008 at 05:39 PM

"I have decided to drink heavily."

Tari - that's the spirit!

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 05:40 PM

Tari: it is time for a glass of wine, so I went and got a glass of an awesome wine that I have!

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 05:40 PM

okay, just took a sip and FYI: it doesn't work well as a chaser for Crunch and Munch popcorn.

Posted by Arun (Go Smiley Fed) 08/20/2008 at 05:40 PM

aah.. here starts Nancy's marketing campaign for her bar!

Posted by Tennis Fan 08/20/2008 at 05:41 PM

Jacko and C Note: I'm with you on the coaching part. Other sports have it, why not tennis.

Posted by naughty T 08/20/2008 at 05:41 PM

Jacko, i was referring back to NP accusing me of making him lose his "morning mojo".

Posted by gauloises 08/20/2008 at 05:44 PM

I can see your points re: coaching, but I just don't agree. To me it would (already did, in the WTA matches where I watched it in operation) a lot of what I love about the sport.

And my other favourite sports don't have it, so why tennis?

*stops going on about this now*

Posted by Jacko (Private Detective) 08/20/2008 at 05:44 PM

ahhh nT . . . .nope my mojo is running at all hours . . . i think it knows of some secret coffee machine that i don't know of!!!LOL

Posted by 08/20/2008 at 05:46 PM

Yeah, that doesn't sound like a good mix, Lisa. An "awesome wine" should really be working well with my pasta, but alas, just a cheap merlot (get out, merlot snobs!!). And really, volume is the key here.

Posted by NP 08/20/2008 at 05:48 PM

Tennis Fan,

Huh? When did I say the status quo is perfect? I actually proposed a few changes myself. Now I'll address the rest of your points.

I must say your baseball analogy doesn't hold water. Baseball is a TEAM sport, whereas tennis, of course, is an INDIVIDUAL sport. Again why should the ATP, WTA or ITF have the power to make a few events mandatory if one player's actions have no direct effects on the other players? One could say say that's because if enough players pulled out then the event would lose its appeal, audience and sponsorship. Then I'd ask, you really think players would wanna pull out of Slam events under normal circumstances? "Uniformity," really a euphemism for centralization in this case, is an anathema especially to individual sports like tennis. Again give the power to the players, not the bureaucracies. Players and non-players will still sort things out together.

BTW we already have uniform ranking systems for singles and doubles. And I don't think awarding bonus points to players who play doubles is a good idea. We already have quite a few fans complaining about how players like JJ are getting unduly high points just by playing more events. Does anyone really think the same problem won't happen once we implement the doubles bonus system?

And I didn't mean to say we should get rid of hard courts. I was just advising against the silly suggestion that the field size for all non-major doubles tourneys should be increased. Again unless you don't care about the physical conditions and professional life span of players it's a bad idea to attempt to make even more demands on already grueling schedules. This is the same reason why I say making women play five sets at the majors is a misguided remedy at best.

I really don't see why coaching during matches should remain illegal. Why can't players consult with coaches if they both are allowed to do the same? And I doubt the 20-second rule is gonna have much of an effect 'cause almost all players serve within 20 seconds most of the time. Again I don't think the rule should exist at all, but I do support it 'cause the whims of umpires should not determine how much time is too much to take before serving. Finally you already know I don't think wild cards are that big a deal.

There it is. Let me know if you have any more objections.

Posted by avid sports fan 08/20/2008 at 05:48 PM

http://www.tennisgrandstand.com/archives/1587

another interesting read on the Olympics tennis

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 05:48 PM

Tari: as to your previous comment, I think Paes is hot, but not Bhupathi.

Posted by Arun (Go Smiley Fed) 08/20/2008 at 05:49 PM

*speculates* Tari - you went headless for a moment?

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 05:51 PM

Tari: I'm drinking Cycles Gladiator, which is a pinot grigio. An awesome red is Gnarly Head old vine zin. Both are really inexpensive. I found them at wine tastings. A wine store has wine tastings every Wed, Sat & Sun and they did a private wine tasting for my alumni group

Posted by Silvery Grey Metallic Russ (453.OSU_EVAS) 08/20/2008 at 05:51 PM

Sam: Does she live upstairs from you?

Posted by Tari 08/20/2008 at 05:51 PM

Arun: I did. Oops. :)

NP: Not interested in the piyush challenge, eh?? Darn.

Posted by 08/20/2008 at 05:51 PM

Serena on ESPN News

Posted by Nancy 08/20/2008 at 05:51 PM

Arun - I don't need a marketing campaign, the headcase bar is already a hit :) though it's nice to have some more fans joining in the merry place

Posted by Silvery Grey Metallic Russ (453.OSU_EVAS) 08/20/2008 at 05:52 PM

Lisa: Cycles Gladiator... is that a wine or one of those new-fangled energy drinks, with "added taurine" and "B-vitamins"* for alertness

*Oh, and 1000 mg of caffeine, the equivalent of 10 cups of coffee

Posted by naughty T 08/20/2008 at 05:53 PM

NP I object. That post was far too short

Posted by Silvery Grey Metallic Russ (453.OSU_EVAS) 08/20/2008 at 05:53 PM

Tari: Wait... did Piyush challenge NP? NP please... take him/her up on the offer.

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 05:53 PM

Russ: it's indeed a wine and it doesn't do much for alertness !

Posted by Arun (Go Smiley Fed) 08/20/2008 at 05:54 PM

"NP: Not interested in the piyush challenge, eh?? Darn."
Isn't it? I vote for NP to represent the Fedadorers in a challenge match (similar to Connors vs Laver) vs Piyush! And Thank you, Russ! That was an out_of_the_world thinking!!

Posted by avid sports fan 08/20/2008 at 05:55 PM

Now I know there will always be predictions etc but this one is just crazy. Now the game boxes are predicting the outcome of US Open. Very Interesting *rolling eyes*

http://www.gamezone.com/news/08_18_08_01_39PM.htm

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 05:55 PM

Now, for the Australian Open, there really should be an Australian wine night. A couple of years ago, we did a ho-ho marathon. But, Stump Jump is a good red Australian wine and there are plenty others to sample,

Posted by Tari 08/20/2008 at 05:56 PM

I really do need to shop some wine, Lisa. These bottles here are what is leftover from people dropping by with any old thing. Thanks for the tips. Lately, I'm into Rioja. Not expensive either, but soooo good. And naughty T had a tip on some Portuguese red that I still haven't purchased, but have been meaning to.

Posted by Silvery Grey Metallic Russ (453.OSU_EVAS) 08/20/2008 at 05:56 PM

Arun: Woah... hold on a minute there brother. Will there be a time limit on this battle? If so, we nominate naughty T. If not, yeah sure, we'll send NP.

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 05:58 PM

just curious---but how would any of you feel if your comments were posted to another bulletin board?

Posted by Tari 08/20/2008 at 05:59 PM

avid: *yawns at prediction* Yeah, yeah. :)

Posted by NP 08/20/2008 at 05:59 PM

gauloises,

"Surely one of the things that's great about tennis is seeing an individual player figure it out, adjust and react on their own on the court."

But other individual sports (table tennis, for example) also allow coaching during play. Why should tennis be an exception? The only valid objection I can think of is that on-court coaching would protract the matches too much. So here's what I say: Allow a limited number of time-outs, just as a player's challenges are limited to three for each set. That should prevent an undue amount of coaching.

Posted by Arun (Go Smiley Fed) 08/20/2008 at 05:59 PM

*rofl alert to Sam regarding Russ' posts*

Posted by Tari 08/20/2008 at 06:00 PM

What do you mean, Lisa?

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 06:00 PM

the reason why I asked is because someone on another bulletin board that I post on (tari can figure out which one) posted some comment from this blog to the other board. I didn't think that it was cool and basically said so.

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 06:02 PM

the aol boards don't have monitors to uphold the community standards and I was upset to see someone's post from this blog, that contained people's names who I have been friends with here, posted on that board.

Posted by gauloises 08/20/2008 at 06:03 PM

NP:

and if all the other sports jumped off a cliff ...

Not putting forward a logical disputation here, just voicing my opinion. I'm not a fan of coaching during play in any sport.

Posted by crazyone 08/20/2008 at 06:04 PM

Well, on the topic of Indian olympic athletes, medal chances, and hotness, here's India's "at least" bronze medalist in boxing:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7482661.stm

He's a boxer and a model...

And it seems like India won a bronze medal in wrestling so perhaps Paes/Bhupathi weren't India's best chance for medals after all.

I derived way more happiness from Fedrinka winning anyway.

Posted by Christopher, Massachusetts, United States 08/20/2008 at 06:05 PM

"I vote for NP to represent the Fedadorers in a challenge match (similar to Connors vs Laver) vs Piyush!"

Piyush is a definitely great, but he is not the GOAT. He played in a weak era and can only win maybe a few more slams in the TW of today. The era of Piyush is over and I think that Wertheim should not write his book about Piyush, because he will not dominate any more. The Piyush as GOAT talk must stop.

Posted by gauloises 08/20/2008 at 06:05 PM

Oh, wait. Golf caddies are OK, I guess. But I don't watch golf except for the Ryder Cup.

Posted by naughty T 08/20/2008 at 06:05 PM

God I just think Pish Tush checks in every so often to see if anyone will bite and then goes back under the bridge.
At any rate he is bound to be right at some point no?
I mean if tomorrow i start saying Rafa will never win another tournament and say it once a week to the annoyance of everyone, then sometime it is indeed bound to come to pass.
How prescient
Still i just get the feeling that pish tush is only craving a bit of attention in the off moments when he is not busy losing his eyesight and getting hairier palms. Who wouldn't. I have been to Ottawa.
just my personal feeling. no offence.

Posted by Rachael 08/20/2008 at 06:06 PM

Lisa - I think that has happened a couple of times. I remember Whitney telling me about TW stuff being posting on RF.com. and I've seen comments from here mentioned on blogs before.

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 06:06 PM

okay, Kumar is indeed hott.
with that said, there's another Indian poster on this board who can fall into the hottie category, if not hottie, extreme cutie category. But, I'm not sayin' names...

Posted by Rosangel 08/20/2008 at 06:06 PM

Sher:the discussion I was referring to took place in the past, and I believe that this is what Tari and Christopher were referring to. While a number of people disagreed with the questions I asked or the way they were asked, most did so politely. Unfortunately, a small number chose to make it a personal attack on my motives for raising the questions.

I said "Federer fans" because i didn't want to name names. Unfortunately that seems to have caused some people to think I was referring to them when I wasn't. I should have said "people" or something that couldn't have been taken as lumpesque.

Posted by Tari 08/20/2008 at 06:06 PM

Was that really you, Christopher?? LOL!

Lisa: I can't even find the aol board anymore. Link?

Posted by NP 08/20/2008 at 06:07 PM

Tari: Not really. Sorry to disappoint ya. :)

nT: I know. That's because you ruined my morning mojo. And I don't know what kind of mojo Jacko has, but I doubt he needs it more than I do.

Arun: I'm not terribly interested in the Federer-Nadal tug of war. Remember, I'm partial to Safin.

Russ: See above. And no, piyush didn't challenge me.

Posted by Silvery Grey Metallic Russ (453.OSU_EVAS) 08/20/2008 at 06:07 PM

Lisa: Well, it would depend on what board (i.e. "www.whatpeoplewhohaveiq<70say.com" - not cool; "thefunniestquotesontheinternetanywhere.com"- okay)

But seriously, I think if you are going to use a quote, you should ask permission. Speaking of which:

Andrew: After Ramon Ramirex-Hidalgo blew his 5-1 lead to Roger at that clay tournament, you had a fantastic one about R-H sleeping like a baby, awake crying every 2 hours. I posted that as one of my favourite quotes on the facebook, crediting you as "Andrew from TW". If you would like me to remove it, please let me know.

Posted by naughty T 08/20/2008 at 06:07 PM

I am presuming that GOAT in this instance means Goofiest Of All Trolls

Posted by crazyone 08/20/2008 at 06:08 PM

Christopher, fantastic!

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 06:08 PM

I don't know who the poster/lurker here who's name it is, but I do know her AOL sn. Like I said, it contained actual names of TW posters and that had me upset.

Posted by Arun (Go Smiley Fed) 08/20/2008 at 06:08 PM

I suspect Piyush aka James too..

But Lisa: a gentle request (if you don't mind). We would like you to point out who that person is (or at least privately email us)! This will enable us to be careful in our future interactions with/pertaining to that Mr/Mrs.X! Thanks..

Posted by Silvery Grey Metallic Russ (453.OSU_EVAS) 08/20/2008 at 06:09 PM

Attention Novak Djokovic: Please win the USO so that Fedadorers and Rafaelites can get along for a few more days again.

Posted by avid sports fan 08/20/2008 at 06:09 PM

Tari - :) How would a "stupid" (all knowledge it has comes of the persons developing the programs) game box determine the winner of a live match yet to be played (hopefully to be played). Just simply crazy!

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 06:10 PM

guys, you **KNOW** that I don't post here much anymore (mainly because of time, but my love is still here...) but I'm sort of protective of TW, since I **was** here during the early days and was even called an elder.

Posted by Arun (Go Smiley Fed) 08/20/2008 at 06:11 PM

*salutes Christopher, nT*

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 06:11 PM

Tari, I'll e-mail it to you.

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 06:12 PM

Tari, I'll e-mail it to you.

Posted by NP 08/20/2008 at 06:12 PM

gauloises: But that still doesn't answer why on-court coaching should remain illegal. I have no problem if you just say you're not a fan of coaching during play in any sport. I'm just saying there are many others who think otherwise and that if they become the majority then on-court coaching should be allowed.

Posted by naughty T 08/20/2008 at 06:12 PM

Rosangel it is just because we Federalists are so paranoid at the moment.
The universe is after all conspiring against us.

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 06:12 PM

have to run, ta ta

Posted by Silvery Grey Metallic Russ (453.OSU_EVAS) 08/20/2008 at 06:13 PM

Aw, Nancy... thanks.

Posted by naughty T 08/20/2008 at 06:13 PM

Rosangel it is just because we Federalists are so paranoid at the moment.
The universe is after all conspiring against us.

Posted by naughty T 08/20/2008 at 06:14 PM

sorry about the double post
but see ... universe and typepad conspiring

Posted by Tari 08/20/2008 at 06:14 PM

naughty T, that was hilarious!

Lisa, can you link me to the post? I'm curious now.

Russ: That wouldn't do it. When Novak won his slam, the haters came out for days and Fed fans took all the blame. So, would you please pick another happy contestant??

Posted by Christopher 08/20/2008 at 06:15 PM

Tari-- Guilty as charged.

Thanks, crazyone.

Posted by tennisesq. 08/20/2008 at 06:15 PM

Sam:

ROTFLMAO!!! I love that 80s song. LOL!

Posted by naughty T 08/20/2008 at 06:16 PM

NP i truly wish you would stop throwing your morning mojo in my face.

Posted by Rachael 08/20/2008 at 06:16 PM

I'm so curious about what Lisa has been saying.


on MSN Messenger you can put a little quote or something as a seperate part of your screen name. for about 6 months I've had "Holy Mother of Stan Wawrinka" as my little quote, and I don't remember who said it when or why, but it was definitely a TWer. so it isn't quoted, but since it's only MSN and I rarely go on I don't think I'm infringing any personal copyrights.

when I do sign in it always makes me laugh.
simple minds and all that..

Posted by Silvery Grey Metallic Russ (453.OSU_EVAS) 08/20/2008 at 06:16 PM

nT: As proof of the conspiracy, you might want to submit that Federer has lost to both Roddick and Blake on hardcourts this year.

Though I must admit... you're right... it is cathartic to be rid of that #1 bullseye. I feel relaxed, and think that my best posting is yet to come!

Posted by crazyone 08/20/2008 at 06:16 PM

Christopher: the part I liked best was the idea of Wertheim writing a book about Piyush Sharma...if that were the case I'd be begging him in every post to drop that idea as well!

Posted by Rachael 08/20/2008 at 06:17 PM

I'd like it to be publicly known that I am happy for ANYONE that isn't Murray to win the USO kthx

Posted by gauloises 08/20/2008 at 06:18 PM

NP:

I never said on-court coaching "should" remain illegal. I have no illusions that my opinion matters in any way to that decision. All I'm saying is that I find the appeal of the idea difficult to comprehend because I personally dislike it. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, just putting my opinion out there. To quote or possibly paraphrase Kat Stratford, expressing my opinion is not a terrorist act.

Posted by naughty T, Lisboa Portugal 08/20/2008 at 06:19 PM

Ha, two (or three) can play at that location location location game

Posted by crazyone 08/20/2008 at 06:20 PM

How did they choose the guys for the poll for the most dangerous floater? Wouldn't JMDP be the obvious choice? Instead they have Mardy Fish (???? he who was bounced by JMDP), Marat Safin (ok, he was a dangerous floater at Wimbly and does best on HC), Ernests Gulbis (dangerous maybe to James Blake-types), and "other".

Why Mardy Fish over Juan Martin del Potro???

Posted by Silvery Grey Metallic Russ (453.OSU_EVAS) 08/20/2008 at 06:20 PM

Tari: Okay... but what if Novak were to beat Federer and Nadal in succession? Surely that would help. Or would the Rafaelites get angry at the Fedadorers because he didn't stop Novak?

Posted by Al 08/20/2008 at 06:20 PM

"And I don't know what kind of mojo Jacko has, but I doubt he needs it more than I do."

Sorry for me being wrong but I thought that Jacko was a female ?

Posted by tennisesq. 08/20/2008 at 06:20 PM

"Sam: Does she live upstairs from you?"

Russ,
LOL to you too. I really really needed a good laugh. Perfect timing guys.

Posted by Tari 08/20/2008 at 06:23 PM

Russ: Nope. All criticism of Novak is assumed to be coming from Fed fans here, trust me. :)

Aww...Rachael. :)

Posted by naughty T, Lisboa Portugal 08/20/2008 at 06:24 PM

NP the coaching was a flop on the WTA tour. They stopped it.
I mean it would have been fun if it were miked properly and we could hear coaches saying wise words like
" you stupid effing b.... what the hell? you are a piece of c..p why the hell don't you do what we do in training you ar......?"
yeh then it might add to my enjoyment. Which is surely what it is about. Otherwise I like watching people fall apart, or get it together and working it out on their own. It is the human struggle with oneself that is partly intriguing for me.
But i am funny that way
rugged individualist and all that.

Posted by Sam 08/20/2008 at 06:26 PM

Russ, tennisesq: Thanks, I was waiting for someone to get that reference. ;-)

Posted by naughty T, Lisboa Portugal 08/20/2008 at 06:26 PM

Rachael totally with you on the anyone but Murray line of thought.
sorry if my agreement destroys your mojo too, as it does with the NP

Posted by Rachael 08/20/2008 at 06:28 PM

I was totally surprised by the coaching thing. I'd imagined the coaches just slobbing out in the player's chairs for the entire thing, chewing gum like footy manangers, shouting serving tips during the actual serve, getting into scraps with line judges over calls, bribing the ball kids, slapping the girls at the change of ends. that kind of thing.

I was actually kind of disappointed.

Posted by Jacko (Private Detective) 08/20/2008 at 06:29 PM

allez alize cornet!!! up a set against srebotnik!!

i've ben a fan of cornet's since FO last year when she lost 1st round to venus and then won the junior event!!!

Posted by naughty T, Lisboa Portugal 08/20/2008 at 06:30 PM

yeh that Davis Cup kind of thing would have been more fun Rachael. Rather than the desperate, help I am falling apart pleas that resulted in the WTA

Posted by gauloises 08/20/2008 at 06:31 PM

"What are you doing? Are you - are you crying?! There's no crying! There's no crying in tennis!"

If it was like that, then maybe.

Posted by Tennis Fan 08/20/2008 at 06:31 PM

Here you go NP!

Governing bodies:

I don’t really understand why you think and individual sport cannot have one governing body and in a team sport situation it is OK. What is the difference?

Yes, tennis is individual but it is also collective. You need the individuals to cooperate to the extent necessary for the collective good. The wants, needs, concerns etc. of players at the bottom of the totem pole are very different from players at the top. The concerns of a tournament holder is different than players. There has to be a body that balances all needs that allows for input of all parties. Right now you have the tournaments, the ITF, USTA, ATP, WTA mishmash and no central organization. The ATP and the WTA are suppose to be the Union Organization of the players not a bureaucracy that has no concern for them. This is their input body. If the bureaucracy has gone awry that is the fault of the players and is probably reflective of the fact that players are more interested in me, me, me than the collective good. That there is a separate ATP for men and a WTA for women I think is reflective lack of concern for the women’s game in the past. This probably developed because like this site, the women are sometimes treated as a side show and not the main event. When I talk of uniformity, I talking about things like the ranking system – the WTA and ATP are different and therefore you cannot exactly compare the two. Like operating systems it is an evolution that functions but is needs a lot of work arounds to do so.

Ranking system

Here are excepts from a previous post. It took a long time to find.

Many have complained that the WTA allows players to erase a first round exit by playing many tournaments. This is true but only to a point. The GSs and Miami are mandatory tournaments. So the points you get for these cannot be erased until the following year. I found this out when my calculations did not match what was published by the WTA each Monday. Bartoli plays a lot. However, her three first round exits at AO, FO and Miami can never be erased. People criticize Jankovic for this, and she does pay more tournaments than any top player. However, she has done well at even the tournaments that are not counted. So sometimes she gains points by replacing 100 points with 110. She did have some first round exits at two smaller tournaments at the end of last year, but that was the end of the season and she was probably tired. She has significant points at the GS and Miami and many other top flight tournaments, so the fact that she can erase bad showings in her case is misleading and wrong.
It has been an eye opening experience to learn the nuts and bolts of the ranking system. You also start seeing patterns and why the players play or not play the tournaments they do.
Obviously, performance at GS and Miami is the most significant factor in the ranking system as these cannot be erased. The Williams’' tend to do well at these tournaments; therefore the need to play a lot is decreased for them. It is interesting, when Venus defended her points at Wimbeldon, suddenly she got injured and pulled out of USO series. Why? She did not need the opportunity for points and she obviously doesn't care all that much about being #1 as long as she is close.
Further, when Venus plays it is usually (1) close to home - Memphis, Tier IV (2) wanting to travel to exotic lands - fall swing was two Tier IIIs and a IV in Bankock, Seoul and Japan (3) needing practice on not her best surface leading up to a GS - Rome. Venus should not be playing in these small tournaments and missing the Teir Is & IIs. However, she does not need to play the larger tournaments as she usually does well at the slams and Miami. If she goes out early at a slam then you will see her to try to make up points. Therefore, my admaration for JJ has increased as you can see she is faithful to the tour in playing almost all the large tourments.
However, in Venus' defense she is probably thinking; been there done that, don't need the money, and no one really cares about those tournaments anyway, let the others take over. Also, she is working on the equal pay and other initatives to advance the cause of women.
Therefore, I think the new system next year with Mandatory commitments and ranking point suffering for missing them will make a difference. You will see the top players play H2H more and get a truer feel for who is the best against the best.

Obviously the ranking system is set up to encourage play at the lesser tournaments, otherwise you would probably not get the top players playing very much or they would only do it for big pay days, making a joke of any tennis tour. Slams would be the only meaningful tournaments more so then they are now. Adding ranking points for doubles would encourage play.

5 sets

If men play them there is no reason women should not. It has nothing to do with the surface. Men are just as prone to injury. There is not reason women can’t play 5 sets at major from the Quarters on. Two of the majors are not played on hard courts. It would add to the enjoyment of the game.

Coaching
I agree.

Posted by tennisesq. 08/20/2008 at 06:31 PM

Sam,
No, thank you. I'm still cracking up.

"I mean it would have been fun if it were miked properly and we could hear coaches saying wise words like
' you stupid effing b.... what the hell? you are a piece of c..p why the hell don't you do what we do in training you ar......?'"

naughty T,
LOL. One coach almost slipped. Remember Michael Joyce in Charleston this year.


Posted by Tari 08/20/2008 at 06:32 PM

"Russ, tennisesq: Thanks, I was waiting for someone to get that reference. ;-) "

I still don't get it!! Damn it. :)

Posted by Silvery Grey Metallic Russ (453.OSU_EVAS) 08/20/2008 at 06:34 PM

Sam: You'd be hard pressed to drop a music reference I didn't get.

Posted by tennisesq. 08/20/2008 at 06:35 PM

Tari,
Russ and Sam were cleverly using the lyrics from an 80s hit, My Name is Luka by Suzanne Vega. The chorus goes, "My name is Luka, I live on the second floor. I love upstairs from you." =)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZyxYL753w4

Posted by Silvery Grey Metallic Russ (453.OSU_EVAS) 08/20/2008 at 06:35 PM

Tari: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZyxYL753w4

Posted by Grant 08/20/2008 at 06:36 PM

"I still don't get it!! Damn it. :)"

Just don't ask him what it was.

Posted by Arun (Go Smiley Fed) 08/20/2008 at 06:36 PM

For Tari: (Courtesy, Mr. Google) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luka_(song)

Posted by Silvery Grey Metallic Russ (453.OSU_EVAS) 08/20/2008 at 06:36 PM

Word tenniesq... word. Wow. Two links to the exact same youtube clip at the same time. And to a frickin' Suzanne Vega song. God, I hated that song!

Posted by Nancy 08/20/2008 at 06:37 PM

Just curious, Where the hell did the french skeleton aka Chardy go after beating Nalby at the FO?
Maybe i'm living under a rock or something but what tournament did he play after that? is he even alive?

Posted by Silvery Grey Metallic Russ (453.OSU_EVAS) 08/20/2008 at 06:38 PM

It's quite a sad song. I want to kick that dude in the Go Nads!

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