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Your Call, Aug. 20 08/20/2008 - 10:52 AM

Smallyourcall_5 Mornin', everyone. I'm going out to the US Open qualies today, to pick up my credentials and poke around a little. Not much more to add for now, except to say that I'll be posting later in the day, and expect to bump into some of you out at the BJKNTC this afternoon. Tomorrow, we have the US Open official draw ceremony, and then Friday I'll be back out at Flushing Meadow. Enjoy today's tennis action and comment on it here. Also, keep your eyes open for Thursday's Deuce Club posts, where I'm going to ask those of you who will be attending the US Open, and may want to hook up with fellow TWibe membere, to make yourselves know.


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Posted by NP 08/20/2008 at 08:16 PM

I second Chiconinja's nomination of Sampras's QF against Corretja. And of course there's also Pete's last USO final against Andre.

Long live Pistol Pete!

Posted by Nancy 08/20/2008 at 08:17 PM

I love this pic. They all look ridiculous in it
https://tinyurl.com/5qlrzl

In the early days when there was hope...
https://tinyurl.com/6e9yny

Posted by Pierre 08/20/2008 at 08:17 PM

I have a little news flash for the tennis community.

Barring injury or other catastrophe, Nadal is going to win the U.S. Open.

It's not about surfaces any more. Every player who faces Nadal recently knows they don't have the key to beat him. Sometimes there is a period of back-and-forth in the match, then Nadal asserts himself and pulls away.

He plays a high-percentage game that no one right now has the answer to. I mean, in the Olympics, did anyone doubt he was going to win? It was actually funny, it was such a foregone conclusion that there was very little drama for the final.

Of course the other players will figure out Nadal eventually, but right now they haven't. No one can outlast him, no one can rally with him and no one has figured out an attack that will break down his game. It's not even about mental toughness or competitiveness at this point, which he happens to have also, he just has the game that the others can't match up against.

And I am not even really a Nadal fan.

Posted by aussiemarg(lowner of legs unwrapped) 08/20/2008 at 08:19 PM

pierre thank you for that, you have made my day!

Posted by piyush sharma, canada 08/20/2008 at 08:19 PM

yes, fedex can win the us open; but joker more likely to do so;

nadal is too tired ;

plus this is a hard court ;

but fedex will probably never be no 1 again ;

Posted by Nancy 08/20/2008 at 08:20 PM

Aww Avid, you're so sweet. thank you :)

Posted by naughty T, Lisboa Portugal 08/20/2008 at 08:21 PM

Ruth I am befuddled now as to whether you are being ironic about my sarcasm or if you thought that.. i was serious.. or if you thought i was making fun of the people who always say that Fed won his titles in a "weak" era or .... or oh i give up.
serious is the scariest of those ideas

Posted by Tennis Fan 08/20/2008 at 08:21 PM

NP – Obviously you are a conservative Republican from some mid-American state.

Yes the US is good, but not perfect, and only if you have good people in the three Branches.

I don’t think I would want you in the Executive, Legislative or Judicial Branch with statements like this:
“As for the 5-set requirements for women, there actually is a reason why that's a bad idea: Women aren't as physically gifted as men. But I won't complain if you can convince the majority of female players to go at it for five sets on hot, humid days when the Slam events generally take place. If not then you should be able to convince me and others that women will be able to handle it just as well as men, and that making the women more prone to injury is necessary for our enjoyment.”
Don’t women run the same distance in a marathon as man? If women play against men, then that is when you make exceptions for physical differences but not when women play against women. If women can be with child in the third trimester through hot and humid months (we did not always have air conditioning) and be in labor for hours and hours even in summer months, then yes they can play 5-set matches at slams from the quarters on. Sharapova came out recently about the ‘injury’ problem and that it is not a great as some want you to believe as this is how they get out of tournaments that they don’t want to play in. Take Venus for example: Do you really think that she won Wimbeldon, got injured shortly thereafter and could not play any tournaments in the summer and then surprise got better just about the time for the Olympics and the US Open? I don’t think so. Even they players are saying that the new system will take this hypocrisy away. Not that their aren’t legitimate injuries. Women just have get in good condition.
Actually, I think by not playing three sets actually hurts conditioning as women can get away easier without being in shape.
But surely you do recognize that tennis is a more "individual"
Did I not say this. As far as multiple levels it just adds to the bueracary not help it. Us the Federal State system sometimes can be good, sometimes not so good. There is no perfect system. But even the players are calling for consolidation.
As far as players doing what they want that is fine to a point. If Serena and Venus could get away with it they would only play GS. At least in Venus’s case she only plays the bear minimum.
Leave people alone, and they actually do more for the market and society than they would under a centralized system.
Obliviously, you were not around in the days of the oil barrens or had to work in deplorable conditions in mines and factories. Yes, Lassie Fair is good to a point but it also can be a meat grinder. There has to be some limits on everything. Players with power like Venus and Serena in your system could do what they want however; the no names would be taken advantage of and abused. This is how unions got started as the individual found out that they only way to make it better for one was for all to join together. Yes, there have been abuses in the Union system when they gain power. Yes balance is good. You can set up a governing body that takes this need for balance into consideration.
Besides the players are not required to join the Union and be governed by the system. They can be free lance amateurs and do what they want. Guess who is an amateur and can do what she wants? Na Li of China! However, they don’t get the benefits of the system either.
Anyway, I did not mean to get in a heavy political decision. However, there does seem to be a need for streamlining and more cooperation between the men and women’s tours.
Power corrupts! Absolute power corrupts absolutely!

Posted by NP 08/20/2008 at 08:22 PM

Chiconinja, I'm a huge Pete fan, but even I can't say that 1990 final qualifies as a classic. It was just a well-played match by Pete in his first successful, almost flawless Slam tourney, though seeing Andre's punk-rock outfits again doesn't sound like a bad idea....

Posted by Rachael 08/20/2008 at 08:22 PM

Nancy - one of my favourite tennis photos
https://i36.tinypic.com/18osg6.jpg

Nalby's arms look amazing in it, too

Posted by ron 08/20/2008 at 08:26 PM

piyush:

Nadal is too tired to wint the USO? Huh? You must not have seen him scampering around in Beijing right up until the last point, and even then looking like he could go another five sets.

And Federer's put on weight? I know they say the camera adds ten pounds but what t.v. have you seen him on? If anything Rog looks like he's lost a little weight.

Pierre:

I like your analysis.

Posted by naughty T, Lisboa Portugal 08/20/2008 at 08:26 PM

hey Moderators can we start a new thread where tennisfan and NP can try and out longwind each other? ;-)) I could be called "15 paragraphs of fame"
We could all dip in every so often and just be thankful we have learned that brevity is the soul of wit.

Posted by Nancy 08/20/2008 at 08:27 PM

Avid - got your mail :)
you're the best. Expect your inbox to hurl from my emails soon.

Rachael - I'm laughing so hard at your last email, i think i peed a little.
LOL on that pic...no wonder he is injured

Posted by piyush sharma, canada 08/20/2008 at 08:28 PM

Tim ($6.56 at Starbies today)

fedex can win the us open but joker more likely;

nadal yet unsuitable for a grans slam hard court;

murray not ready yet;

yes, fedex has put on weight ; sluggish;

too many exos, no coach, no scenerio analysi , ..

get brad gilbert as coach ;

Posted by Arun (Go Smiley Fed) 08/20/2008 at 08:28 PM

Re that last Nalby pic: Any idea after which Davis Cup victory (?) was it taken?

Posted by naughty T, Lisboa Portugal 08/20/2008 at 08:29 PM

Lassie Fair... here girl here girl. comoete in the market place. good girl
lol
sorry but that is my favourite thing the whole day.

Posted by avid sports fan 08/20/2008 at 08:30 PM

Nancy - no problems! Now to that pic, how the heck did David bear the weight of all those massive men ;-)

Posted by aussiemarg(lowner of legs unwrapped) 08/20/2008 at 08:31 PM

rosangel, i have finished watching the final again in total of the wimbledon final borg v mcenroe, i have to say,in comparison to this years final at wimbledon i am torn? as a lover of borg,who isn't the final set,was vintage borg!,in the final set of this years final,which i have watched 5 times,rafa really applied the pressure to roger,on his service game,i have to say,it is even,i can't say in all honesty,which is better,the tie breaker to mcenroe was gripping to say the least,i have to say,they both had their climax's etc,the rain also gave the drama to this years final,i love them both for different reasons.

Posted by naughty T, Lisboa Portugal 08/20/2008 at 08:32 PM

or even compete... sorry i was giggling too much
Mods please edit me. i am far too over the top bitchy on that one.
sorry

Posted by Chiconinja 08/20/2008 at 08:32 PM

avid sports fan,

Nalby hasn't been the same since all those men were on top of him.

They've cost him at least a couple of slams hehe.

Posted by Nancy 08/20/2008 at 08:33 PM

Rachael - I don't think you were around when i posted this one, it's one of my favorite pics. He is totally nuts..i like that
https://tinyurl.com/64zeza

Posted by naughty T, Lisboa Portugal 08/20/2008 at 08:34 PM

Rachael and Nancy, no wonder Nalby doesn't win anymore if that is what happens to him when he does. He is obviously scared for life.

Posted by Tennis Fan 08/20/2008 at 08:34 PM

Correction Amatuer is Shaui Peng not Na Li or Li Na whichever way it goes.

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 08:36 PM

Hi,Nancy and Rachael
glad to see you too back
Vamos Hott Sauce - in New Haven
naughty t - you are cracking me up

did I hear the call for a new bartender for the bar, Nancy
I see Sam found you a lovely new barmaid -
I really have no suggestions
cute, in an endearing goofy way as he may be - and covered with gold - I am not sure that Phelps is the man for the job - He may be too busy to come pour for us -but , he is worth considering
not exactly classically handsome , but hey - he's gonna be rich
and he is sure not a headcase

Posted by Chiconinja 08/20/2008 at 08:36 PM

NP,

I guess I forgot the pics must be "classic". It's just that seeing them so young seems memorable to me now.

And the outfits...it's all about the outfits hehe.

Pete looks like a 13 year old by the way in the '90 US Open pictures. Really skinny, his body looks kinda weird.

Posted by Rachael 08/20/2008 at 08:37 PM

https://i33.tinypic.com/4viq0n.jpg
classic!

Posted by Rachael 08/20/2008 at 08:38 PM

hey beth, soon I'll be banished back to an internet-less land so make the most of me. hope you're good.

no ways is Phelps getting near the HC bar. guy is a total butterface.

Posted by tennisesq. 08/20/2008 at 08:40 PM

avid sports fan,
Just to elaborate on greenhopper's explanation: Olga Govortsova aka Ms. Scary Shoulders is the girl Serena played in the first round of the Olympics. I remarked to greenhopper that her shoulders scared me because they were so bony and skeletal, like Kiera Knightly's shoulders in "Atonement." Them shoulder blades were sharp. That's when greenhopper came up with Ms. Scary Shoulders. lol.

Posted by aussiemarg(lowner of legs unwrapped) 08/20/2008 at 08:41 PM

beth, hi, according to reports from a celibrity agent,phelps is set to make billions?

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 08:42 PM

Rachael - it was merely a suggestion
I agree the face is not the best looking one out there ( and you thought I might not know what a butterface was ? - Ha! - I am onto that one )
He looks better when he lets his hair grow out

still , there is something kind of cute in a goofy way

now , we need to fix that mama's boy thing going on
I am all for a young man respecting and loving his mom
but , this seems a little too close
If I were a young woman interested in this guy , I might be worried about mama , there

Posted by Tennis Fan 08/20/2008 at 08:43 PM

naughtyt:

Here's some wit for you!

aaaaah someone's cage got rattled

my cat Olympia.
After the olympic games.
Olympia Dukakis .. actress
Dukakis... sounds like do kaka
Kittens sh.,, a lot. do kaka
boom boom
pun pun
Who cares!

Scroll baby scroll!

Posted by Nancy 08/20/2008 at 08:44 PM

Beth - how are you? are your parents happy in the new place?
and oh Beth you have to find us a HOTT partender ASAP.
Phelps is ok but not exactly what i'm looking for

Rachael - your killing me! oh that pic
Nalby holding that trophy..THE.BEST.MOMENT.EVER

Posted by avid sports fan 08/20/2008 at 08:46 PM

tennisesq. - LOL

Chiconinja and naughty T - I totally agree. poor David literally bearing the weight of the Argentine Davis Cup team ;-)

Posted by Aussie Angel (Safina WTA's Future Nol. 1) 08/20/2008 at 08:46 PM

I wouldn't let any swimmers in as they will drink it dry and want freebies.

AM - In response to a much earlier response like 12 hrs ago, I flove Beth Orton have seen her twice and she was brillant. She has got me through a couple of bad patches in my life. BTW she is very tall and lean.

Posted by 08/20/2008 at 08:47 PM

British cyclist Jamie Staff talks about this chance encounter with Rafael Nadal while doing laundry in the athletes' village. "I was in the laundry and I realized I was standing right next to Nadal," said Staff. "I didn't bother him but he was shoving all his colours and whites in together. I really wanted to say, 'Dude, you're going to have a nightmare with that. You can't just put the whole bag in - there are reds in with whites'. But what can you do?"

Eight-time Beijing gold medalist Michael Phelps described his meeting with Nadal in an interview with DPA earlier this week: "Actually I walked up to Rafael Nadal. And he is probably my favourite tennis player to watch and I walked up to him and I was like, 'I just want to meet you and don't want to take a picture or anything, I just want to meet you.' And I told him, 'I watch you all the time when you play tennis and I love watching you play tennis.' I told him good luck. That is probably the only person."

Posted by naughty T, Lisboa Portugal 08/20/2008 at 08:47 PM

Tennis Fan as i said imitation is the greatest form of flattery.

I am touched that you have kept such close track of my posts. sweet.

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 08:47 PM

Beth!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Nancy 08/20/2008 at 08:48 PM

oh man this is the second time i do it
i wrote bartender with a "p" !!! UGGHHHH

Posted by Aussie Angel (Safina WTA's Future Nol. 1) 08/20/2008 at 08:48 PM

Forgot to say howdy everyone. I see the Argies are still losing in the doubles in New Haven. Well done surfer boy.

Posted by aussiemarg(lowner of legs unwrapped) 08/20/2008 at 08:48 PM

nancy hi, i have a suggestion,for extra support at the bar,what about bolt,that unreal runner,mm,he could come in handy to get supplies in,he is so fast,nancy you would never run out of anything?

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 08:48 PM

aussiemarg - I am not sure about billions
History does not bear that out for Olympians - they need to make the most of the time right after the Olympics - before their sport fades away from the public eye for the next 4 years
Now , I did read in the Wall Street Journal ,that there is some speculation that Nike will offer him $30 to $40 million to swtich over away from Speedo and help them develop a new prototype suit - to break into the swim market . But no offer has been made as of yet. He has a deal with Visa. Speedo and Kellogg's - but nothing in the billion range of yet .
The report in WSJ also stated that his agent was being bombarded by Hollywood starlets who want to meet the guy - in an effort to boost their career by being seen on the arm of swimming's Superman.
My time table says in 2 weeks he will be squiring one of them , or more , around to Hollywood parties . Even if they are golddiggers - why shouldn't he take advantage and go out with some hot chicks. He has been living a rather Spartan existence , training. Time for some extracurricular activities
My advice - rent , don't buy Michael . Play the field for a while :)

Posted by avid sports fan 08/20/2008 at 08:49 PM

Beth - Oh it's not just mama and big sisters too. Now that is one heck of a "matriachy" to deal with for any prospective dates ;-)

Posted by sally 08/20/2008 at 08:50 PM

piyush-you need to see an eye doctor roger has lost weight not gained it.

hugs to Tari!!

Posted by Samantha Elin 08/20/2008 at 08:50 PM

You know Piyush is kind of funny. Piyush, do you know that Rafa has been a pro for about 4 years, so if Fed could only win in a weak era, wouldn't that make Nadal weak because he's part of Roger's era? Justine, forever my #1!

Posted by Tennis Fan 08/20/2008 at 08:51 PM

"I am touched that you have kept such close track of my posts. sweet."

15 sentences of fame!

Have you ever been to Fatima?

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 08:52 PM

Lisa !!!!!!
How are you , girl
I have thought of you often -
are you doing well , now ?
I did not want to bother you , while you were not feeling well !

Nancy - I have a thought - Phelps is a no
as I see - how about Mark Sanchez - injured , but totally hott , qb of the USC Trojans
I will try to link a photo
Let me look for one

Posted by aussiemarg(lowner of legs unwrapped) 08/20/2008 at 08:52 PM

aa, i am so jealous of you,where and when did you see the beth,i have been a fan forever,she came to sydney,played at the enmore theatre,i could not get there,i have said to myself,she is a artist i would die for to see,one of my fav sons of hers is cental reservation,just love it!

Posted by Rachael 08/20/2008 at 08:53 PM

beth - I knew you'd be one of those in the know, you wouldn't let us down on such matters.

Nancy - best thing about that photo is Fed's face. I'm pretty sure he was putting a curse on Dah-veeeeed.
to see Nalby in all his glory just search "Nalbandian Davis Cup" on Getty Images.
https://tinyurl.com/6743u4

Ange - at least one Argie won in dubs. the ovary-bursting one.

Posted by avid sports fan 08/20/2008 at 08:53 PM

aussiemarg - LOL about bolt. How are you today and the ankles how are they doing?

Nancy - I second the Bolt nomination. At least we are sure of getting things at lightning speed ;-) Besides when it comes to exotic drink mixtures, I think Jamaicans have a knack for such ;-)

Posted by Sam 08/20/2008 at 08:53 PM

Ros: 1985 USO final - Mandlikova flopping onto her back after defeating Navratilova in a third set tiebreaker.

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 08:53 PM

avid - I forgot the sisters
I pity any girl who would seriously try to get into the life of one Michael Phelps
She will have to run the gauntlet

now - off to find photo of Mark

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 08:54 PM

Beth: I'm awesome! I've been busy with some consulting projects, LSU business, church, and of course, tennis. I have a cute photo of Casey! He asked about y'all!!! We had a student reception for all local kids going to LSU. I had laundry bags with the LSU logo on each kid's name silkscreened on them.

Posted by sally 08/20/2008 at 08:54 PM

omg, i now officially love samantha!!

justine-forever number 1!!

Posted by aussiemarg(lowner of legs unwrapped) 08/20/2008 at 08:55 PM

betrh yes i hear what you say re phelps,but it came from a celibrity agent,they tend to go over board on things don't they.

Posted by Aussie Angel (Safina WTA's Future Nol. 1) 08/20/2008 at 08:58 PM

Nancy you have rejoined us. Hooray.

Posted by naughty T, Lisboa Portugal 08/20/2008 at 09:00 PM

by the by i did not say how happy I was that Amelie pulled it out today. Even at the expense of my favourite head case

Posted by aussiemarg(lowner of legs unwrapped) 08/20/2008 at 09:00 PM

avid hi, those ankles still swollen,hope these drugs work,have to see dr eye candy in a month,bolt i thought would be a good suggestion,poor nancy could be flat out,at the bar,in the us open,with bolt,she would never run out of supplies,pls mind the pun there! lol

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 09:00 PM

https://tinyurl.com/5gvemu
ok
let's see if this works

Posted by Tennis Fan 08/20/2008 at 09:00 PM

Han & Gov 3-3 all in the third. Critical 7th game coming up.

Posted by Nancy 08/20/2008 at 09:00 PM

Aussiemarg and Avid - can you guys link a photo of Bolt?

Rachael - yeah i know, if he was really putting a curse on Dav-eeeeed then Congrats! it worked big time Roger!

Posted by Aussie Angel (Safina WTA's Future Nol. 1) 08/20/2008 at 09:00 PM

Oh that is just great, just when I wrote yesterday about Craig Mottram (an Aussie track athlete) who may off had a chance at a medal in the 5000m he failed to qualify for the final.

AM - where r u.

Posted by Rachael 08/20/2008 at 09:03 PM

if we're nominating Olympians for HC duty then may I put forward whoeverthehell it was who carried the flag for Great Britain (I'm such a good Brit)

Posted by aussiemarg(lowner of legs unwrapped) 08/20/2008 at 09:04 PM

aa do we have to discuss craig? the track and field athleted,apart for the sally mclennon who won silver in the hurdles,what has aussie got really?that tasmin lewis pls give me strength?

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 09:05 PM

Lisa - please tell Casey "hello " for us
Missie has filled out her LSU application
and she has been working on others on line
but I know she finished the LSU one - ( no essay is apparently required)
just a matter now of sending transcripts after the first semester
glad to know you are doing better - and to chat again

Nancy - the Sanchez link works - you just have to scroll down a bit - he is in a grey workout shirt - Not the best photo - but all I am going to find on a sports site
He is quite popular with the ladies around here
aussiemarg - yeah - agents will exaggerate - but I don't think the WSJ did - I think his earning potential is less than say a Tiger Woods or a Federer - just because the sport is lower profile

Posted by Nancy 08/20/2008 at 09:06 PM

Beth :) he is hired
I need to see a shirtless photo though.

*Waves to Aussie Angel*

Rachael - I love that last pic. heck i love all his pics
that was his birthday. I have another one like it but with Rafa and Moya celebrating with him.

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 09:08 PM

Nancy - not sure if I can find one of those - but you can google him , and you might find one
Or i could ask Jake to send you one - He and Jake are acquaintances
although , I doubt Jake would do that - he would think his mom had finally snapped

Posted by avid sports fan 08/20/2008 at 09:08 PM

Nancy - Not a HOTT one ;-) but definitely fast LOL Here is a pic
https://tinyurl.com/6zjdge

Posted by Rachael 08/20/2008 at 09:10 PM

lessons in fear at 2am - sitting at your laptop in the dark, with your headphones in listening to loud and shouty music. during a gap inbetween songs you hear what was definitely a knock on your window. you're in a bungalow.

>afraid.

Posted by Tennis Fan 08/20/2008 at 09:10 PM

Dani gets broken Govortsova serves for the set.

Posted by Aussie Angel (Safina WTA's Future Nol. 1) 08/20/2008 at 09:10 PM

am - I saw Beth Orton at an outdoor gig in Fremantle in summer in 2005, she didn't play for long as she was sick but she was still brillant and then I saw her in 2007 in a small intimate venue and she rocked. I didn't realise but she is a very funny lady. She was looking for a husband. She doesn't have great dress sense though.

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 09:11 PM

He is unbelievably fast
and isn;t he taller than the average sprinter ?
I was talking today in the gym to some guys - and we were speculating on
this Bolt guys value to the NFL - I mean if he could catch - he could not be caught
can you imagine him running in an open field with the ball
He would be worth a fortune
that is , if he could catch
I also think it is ironic that he is named Bolt
don't you ?

Posted by Aussie Angel (Safina WTA's Future Nol. 1) 08/20/2008 at 09:12 PM

Nancy can you post the birthday pics of David please.

*Waves back with good hand*

Posted by Tennis Fan 08/20/2008 at 09:12 PM

Dani breaks back. Good job! Needs to hold serve though.

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 09:13 PM

be careful , Rachael
keep us posted !

Posted by aussiemarg(lowner of legs unwrapped) 08/20/2008 at 09:13 PM

rachel, do you have to rub it in, with the resurgence of the british at this year olympics? they have upset the aussies at the cycling track etc, now you want them in the bar as well!

Posted by NP 08/20/2008 at 09:13 PM

Tennis Fan,

Obviously you're someone from a provincial region who likes to burn a lot of straw.

I don’t think I would want you in the executive, legislative or judicial branch with statements like this:

"Obliviously [sic], you were not around in the days of the oil barrens or had to work in deplorable conditions in mines and factories. Yes, Lassie Fair [sic] is good to a point but it also can be a meat grinder."

When did I ever say laissez-faire capitalism doesn't have its problems? Of course there will always be a few individuals who unfairly take advantage of other people. We have the law and social mores to punish these individuals. BTW I'm neither a conservative or a Republican, though I'm not sure what my political affiliation or ideology has to do with this discussion.

Back to the actual issues. Actually, my point was not that women shouldn't play five sets just because they can't compete against men. My actual point was that it's harder for women to play five sets. I'm not convinced by your claim that women can play three sets without being in shape. If you think female players can play for one or two hours without sufficient physical conditioning then I don't know what I can say to persuade you. But again if you really want women to play five sets then try to convince them to play for five sets on hot, humid days when the Slam events generally take place. If the majority of them don't have a problem with it then I won't have any problem with it, either. Just don't force the 5-set rule on the players if they're not willing to go along with it.

As for your claim that the multiple "levels" of government just add to the bureaucracy, I gotta say you probably don't even understand what federalism is. But since you said you didn't mean to get into a political discussion I'll drop the subject and move on.

You also said the players are calling for consolidation. That's actually news to me, so let me know if you can find an article that can confirm that more than one or two players are actually for the consolidation.

And no one argues that there should be no rules in tennis. You need to explain why having one big governing body in tennis is more beneficial than the current configuration of separate bodies. After all you yourself quoted Lord Action's truism that absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Finally, you're right, players aren't required to join the ATP or the WTA. I just object to the fact that they have the power to make certain events mandatory. Again players should be allowed to do whatever they want as long as their actions don't affect the other players directly. And you're wrong that Li is an amateur, as she turned pro in 1999. You do know players aren't allowed to compete in an ATP or WTA event until they turn pro and join, right?

Again you need to explain why there's "a need for streamlining and more cooperation between the men and women’s tours." Until you can do that convincingly I think I'll stick with my positions.

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 09:14 PM

YYYYYAYYYYYYY Missie! Geaux GIRL!!!!

Posted by Nancy 08/20/2008 at 09:17 PM

Beth - i'm googling him now :)
but no luck with a shirless photo.

Avid - hmmm i need to find a better looking photo to be convinced but well, if he is fast then he'll definitely be helpful

I don't know how you ladies feel about this guy but i've been secretly in love with him for 2 years now..i'd like to hire him
https://tinyurl.com/5fgbep
https://tinyurl.com/5pt69c

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 09:17 PM

Lisa - she really liked the campus and thought the guys she met were so friendly
so - it is a definite possiblity
Her dad is concerned about her being so far from home ( as is mom )
but , the bottom line is - we want her to be happy at college - and wherever she feels she fits in and has the courses for her to study what she wants - will be good
Now - she just has to get in somewhere
It is all the giant waiting game

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 09:19 PM

Beth: did were you sure to put down that she's a bengal legacy? She is entitled to 75% of her out of state tuition waived because you went there.

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 09:19 PM

nancy - shirtless would probably make your computer explode
He is a big boy - 6'4 - and all muscle
but , keep looking
Your secret crush is certainly a keeper
I do not object to him at all :)

Posted by aussiemarg(lowner of legs unwrapped) 08/20/2008 at 09:19 PM

aa yes i have seen the drees of beth,she strikes me as a girl,that just puts the clothes on whatever,still her voice and her lyrics are mind blowing to say the least,always check the papers to see if she has a gig on here,kind of comes to sydney very quietly,not a great deal of fuss about her here,still i would love to see her live.

Posted by Nancy 08/20/2008 at 09:20 PM

Aussie Angel - i'll try to find them..I have'em on my computer but i need to find the link again to post them.
How is your arm? are you feeling any better?

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 09:20 PM

Lisa - yes - she filled that part in - I remember her asking about the years I was enrolled - so I feel certain that was included

Posted by Al 08/20/2008 at 09:21 PM

NP Tennis Fan did correct his/her statement @ 8:34 regarding Li Na.

Posted by naughty T, Lisboa Portugal 08/20/2008 at 09:21 PM

non sequitur city ... but ok. Yes Fatima is on the tourist curiosity tour for sure. But have not gone on pilgrimage as I am, as you might have guessed, a heathen... well at least lapsed.
If you are thinking of doing a pilgrimage I would say that Santiago de campostella is infinitely more beautiful and has Pulpo Gallego .. gallician octopus. deeeeeelicious
There is also a beautiful local porcelain that makes a fantastic souvenir.

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 09:22 PM

actually - in the orientation session - they went around the room and asked where the kids were from
we won the " distance " contest - but , when Missie said " my mom went here " everyone understood why she had come so far

Posted by aussiemarg(lowner of legs unwrapped) 08/20/2008 at 09:23 PM

nancy just looked at those links you gave us,gosh nancy he is in,in my view mmmmmm,sigh,sigh,when can he start?

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 09:24 PM

omigod
I just looked - tennis is still being played in New Haven
silly me - I did not realize this was both a men's and women's event

Posted by aussiemarg(lowner of legs unwrapped) 08/20/2008 at 09:26 PM

nancy, i really think bolt could help you in the bar,just for the speed factor alone,don't won't to see you run off your legs through the us open?

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 09:27 PM

Awesome Beth!

Posted by Nancy 08/20/2008 at 09:27 PM

Beth and Aussiemarg - glad you agree :)
I flove him
His name is Adrian Mutu, soccer player from Romania

Posted by NP 08/20/2008 at 09:28 PM

nT, I believe I've written more than 15 paragraphs, so does that make me famous or un-famous?

Chiconinja, Pete did look like a 13-year-old back then. Explains why he was able to hit "only" 120-mph serves.

Posted by Tari 08/20/2008 at 09:28 PM

Rachael - you OK?

naughty T: As always, envious of your travels and the places you've lived. I need to find a way to fit into one of your suitcases, lol.

Posted by Rachael 08/20/2008 at 09:30 PM

daren't approach my window to see who/what made that noise, so I'm going to bed to await the inevitable slaughtering.

sweet dreams everyone
https://tinyurl.com/5dmpe3

Posted by beth 08/20/2008 at 09:31 PM

Rachael ?
Rachael ?

Like Tari said - are you ok - still there ?

Lisa - yep ,it is pretty exciting around here
Yesterday , she had her headshots taken for her deb photos
she looked so beautiful , I almost cried
I cannot believe that gorgeous young woman is my little girl

Posted by NP 08/20/2008 at 09:32 PM

Al, that doesn't change much. Peng Shuai is still a professional player. Thanks for letting me know, though.

Posted by naughty T, Lisboa Portugal 08/20/2008 at 09:35 PM

Rachael. Firstly are you ok. Call police and carry knife.
and ooooooooh that is indeed sweet dream material. Still not in your shower yet I guess?


Posted by Kenneth 08/20/2008 at 09:35 PM

TMF rules:

Great post earlier. I have to admit, it was probably sour, sour grapes on my part to doubt the Jamaicans' success, and none deserves punishment before the crime. Congrats on the achievement.

Sunday cannot come quickly enough for me.

Posted by Lisa 08/20/2008 at 09:35 PM

no one had to wonder why Reeshard kept up with her at IW

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