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The Lonely Coach (WCC, Day 12) 07/04/2009 - 8:26 AM

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by Pete Bodo

Mornin', everyone, and a fine one it is again.

A few days ago, I had an interesting conversation with Sven Groeneveld, who heads up the novel and productive Adidas group coaching effort. Sven has coached an impressive list of outstanding players, including Mary Pierce, Michael Stich, Nathalie Dechy, Greg Rusedski, Fernando Verdasco and, most recently,  Ana Ivanovic. BTW, Ana is back with the Adidas program after a patchy experience with Craig Kardon (formerly Martina Navratilova's coach). And Darren Cahill has joined Gil Reyes, that other member of team Agassi, on the Adidas coaching roster. Those are Cahill, Reyes and Groeneveld (L to R) in this photo.

It turns out that Sven and our mutual friend, tennis insider Lisa Sommermeier, had both read the on-again, off-again series I started on coaching (it makes me think I ought to continue it), in which I wondered why tennis coaches - who run the gamut from manipulative opportunists with precious little to offer  to distinguished Grand Slam enablers - didn't have some kind of official organization, or registry. I can think of a dozen ways in which an official organization, like the players, tournaments, umpires, and even press already has (and let's not forget that strong organization of teaching pros, the USPTR), would be a welcome addition to the growing infrastructure of our sport.

It turns out that Sven had been thinking along the same lines, and he already has an interactive website that functions as a virtual employment agency for coaches. It's called Orangecoach.com. The big news Sven wanted to share with me is that this is merely Stage 1 of a 2 stage effort - the second part will consist of creating a formal organization or registry of coaches. It will not only help coaches and players find each other, but also give coaches, those lone operators, an organization that will set guidelines, create opportunities (like sponsorship deals), and give coaches the backing of the same kind of official, institutional voice that others can fall back on in times of need.

To pick a simple example, right now any charge of inappropriate behavior of any kind against a coach is simply a "he said, she/he said" affair, and who would want to be the coach in that scenario - especially if it were one of the all too common partnerships of a young female player and an older male coach?  Moreover, the WTA commitment to on-court coaching means that coaches could potentially supplement their income with sponsorship deals on a less haphazard basis. "I was never for the on-court coaching experiment," Sven told me. "But it's here and there's no reason not to take advantage of it."

Largely, though, Sven sees "job security" as the most critical issue for coaches. He points out that coaches come and go randomly, usually at the mercy of the players for whom they work. When that player retires, or moves on, the coach is back at Square One. He or she has no real way beyond networking and personal salesmanship of staying in the game. "Not too many coaches stay in the game for more than five years," Sven said. "I want to try to find a way to enable legitimate coaches to stay in the game. For example, if the player I've coached for three years decides to move on, right now I don't even have access to my workplace - the tournaments. If we had a certification process, the members of our registry could stay in the game and enjoy the same benefits as other tennis professionals."

A registry would also enable the organization to police its membership and even institutionalize the background checks that are a reasonable burden. Sven objected to the heavy-handed way the official game instituted its intrusive background checks in a panicked response to abuse and gambling scandals, but has no problem with the basic concept. "It would be part of a general certification process that would take place in stages," Sven said. "People would know what the system expects and get comfortable with it."

Sven also noted that academies, representation firms, and even manufacturers (like Adidas) have increasingly close ties to coaches, and use them in increasingly inventive and diverse wasy (as scouts, for example). The coaches need to be better informed on everything from the available opportunities to the general task-by-task pay scale.

I think this plan will work, partly because sponsors already have greater grasp of inventive ways to use coaches. The coaches are not only vital to the players on-court success, they're an increasingly significant go-between with other wings of the game, like the media. And a coach is a pipeline to a player. I've learned over time that if you have a good relationship with a player's coach, you're more likely to develop the same with a player.

I hope Sven pulls this off.


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Posted by Aussiemarg Madame President finally comes out of rehab and rejoices in Vamos Forever 07/04/2009 at 10:29 AM

Venus f/hand has gone as well

Posted by evie 07/04/2009 at 10:29 AM

I really wish they'd have five sets for the final of women's tennis. It's just going too quick.

Posted by tommy 07/04/2009 at 10:29 AM

This is another major where Serena faced a match point, and this was 2nd serve, and Dementieva had her chance.
Venus didn't show up ready for a tough match today

Posted by olive 07/04/2009 at 10:30 AM

whatever about serena's serve.yeah, it's clicking. but how can venus have had 1 ufe in the semifinal and then play like this wind or no wind, against her life long hitting partner whom she played a really entertaining final against just last year? mystifying?

Posted by Master Ace 07/04/2009 at 10:30 AM

8 points lost on serve by Serena as she leads 7-6(3),5-2

Posted by yello fuzzy 07/04/2009 at 10:30 AM

Serena serving 4-2
ace 15-0
2nd serve, FH error by Venus 30-0
ace out wide 40-0
Serena has lost only 8 points on serve today, 3 in one game
Deep FH draws the error from Venus
game Serena 5-2

Posted by Annie (Heavenly Creature wimby was not the same without you) 07/04/2009 at 10:30 AM

bah, Vee not playing well today. this is going to be over very soon.

Posted by keefriff 07/04/2009 at 10:30 AM

where's the contrived shrieking?

Posted by keefriff 07/04/2009 at 10:30 AM

where's the contrived shrieking?

Posted by phillykat 07/04/2009 at 10:31 AM

boy the end is looming
all kudos to Serena with these beautiful service holds

Posted by Cayman Karen (as defined by Ruth and Master Ace) 07/04/2009 at 10:31 AM

Damn, I have to say that I so did not see this coming. Serena is playing focused, precise tennis with no thought whatsoever to the opponent across the net. Man, dont like to see Venus going out like this. Heres hoping if Serena wins she goes out and plays really well to give Venus the consolation prize this year - Wimbledon Doubles Title. Venus always looks so beautiful at Wimbledon.

Posted by Samantha Elin(supporter of all things Scandinavian.) 07/04/2009 at 10:31 AM

Yeah, it's over. I would be lying if I said I enjoyed it. I don't think Serena needs this has much as V. Wimbledon is everything to V and this is going to hurt.

Posted by yello fuzzy 07/04/2009 at 10:31 AM

evie I agree 5 sets for the women, it will shut up all those equal play, equal pay folks

Posted by Mr. X 07/04/2009 at 10:31 AM

Serena holds at love, with no problem at all, and goes up 5-2. She keeps serving very well, as she hit 2 aces. Venus is having issues with her movement in the rallies now, in my opinion. Maybe Serena is the only player capable of making Venus's knee problems evident.

Posted by avid sports fan aka "Sigh-Rena" 07/04/2009 at 10:31 AM

Serena is just serving bombs like Dr. Ivo. And her toss is so deceptive you can't tell whether she is going wide or down the T. And she holds.

Vee has to really pull a ReRe-like comeback here to win this one. In a way, I do think the fact that she did not have a *tough* match like ReRe may have also affected her. I also think losing that first set when she was the only one that had a chance to break deflated her. She is not usually very emotive but you could see the disappointment in her face after that first set. She is also a step slower.

Posted by crystal 07/04/2009 at 10:31 AM

check here: http://www.nowgoal.com/22.shtml

Posted by tennisesq. 07/04/2009 at 10:32 AM

Now or never Vee.

Posted by Aussiemarg Madame President finally comes out of rehab and rejoices in Vamos Forever 07/04/2009 at 10:32 AM

Serena has had a good game plan,she has played agreesive and kept Venus on the baseline,Venus has not been able to get to the net as much.

Good thinking Serena and very well played.

Miss Vee's game is falling apart sad to say

Posted by evie 07/04/2009 at 10:32 AM

This. is. a. disaster.


Posted by Samantha Elin(supporter of all things Scandinavian.) 07/04/2009 at 10:32 AM

Why doesn't V look the same as the player who played Safina?? Maybe she's injured, but I don't want to watch this anymore. Congrats to Serena.

Posted by Annie (Heavenly Creature wimby was not the same without you) 07/04/2009 at 10:33 AM

this has been a disappointing match. can't believe they get the same paycheck as the guys.

Posted by tennisesq. 07/04/2009 at 10:33 AM

Make her serve for it.

Posted by Matt Zemek 07/04/2009 at 10:34 AM

The calculus of this match is the same as any other match involving Serena Jameka Williams:

You give her a second chance, she punishes you.

The mark of a champion, indeed.

Posted by tennisesq. 07/04/2009 at 10:35 AM

You need new shoes Vee.

Posted by Master Ace 07/04/2009 at 10:36 AM

Samantha Elin,
Aussiemarg post at 10:32 AM said it all why Venus is not looking like the Venus against Dinara

Posted by olive 07/04/2009 at 10:36 AM

venus has 7 won grand slams. she is a champion, too.

Posted by phillykat 07/04/2009 at 10:37 AM

wow serena let her off the hook

Posted by Matt Zemek 07/04/2009 at 10:37 AM

Serena flubs the points that really don't matter. I recall a 40-love point she biffed earlier in the match. She's casual when she can afford to be.

Deuce.

Posted by avid sports fan aka "Sigh-Rena" 07/04/2009 at 10:38 AM

I don't know why people bring up equal pay arguments now. when me play five setters and the winners lose jsut four or five or six games do you think they do not deserve their pay?

Posted by Mike 07/04/2009 at 10:39 AM

Yeah ... she could have easily crushed that short shot, but practically bunted it back. Feeling sorry for big sis? Must be rough ... can't even imagine.

Posted by Matt Zemek 07/04/2009 at 10:39 AM

Olive:

Venus is a champion. Serena, for the moment, is THE champion in women's tennis. The No. 1 player in the world, for all practical purposes.

Posted by evie 07/04/2009 at 10:39 AM

Make her serve it out. It can't be said enough.

Posted by Annie (Heavenly Creature wimby was not the same without you) 07/04/2009 at 10:39 AM

come on Vee, hold here.

Posted by avid sports fan aka "Sigh-Rena" 07/04/2009 at 10:39 AM

Meanwhile is really getting everything back including smash returns. wow!

Posted by phillykat 07/04/2009 at 10:39 AM

can she save a 4th MP

Posted by Master Ace 07/04/2009 at 10:40 AM

Serena Jameka Williams defeated Venus Ebony Starr Williams 7-6(3),6-2 for her 3rd Wimbledon title(first since 2003) and 11th Slam Overall (4 - AO, FO, 3 - W, 3 - USO)

Posted by Matt Zemek 07/04/2009 at 10:40 AM

Wimbledon is a place for champions.

This was Venus Williams's personal summer cottage for awhile, but now Serena Williams has reclaimed ownership of Centre Court.

Fitting that the winner of Thursday's sensational semifinal will go on to take the title.

Serena wins the Venus dish.

Posted by yello fuzzy 07/04/2009 at 10:40 AM

Venus serving to stay in the match 2-5
2nd serve, DF 0-15
Venus feeling the pressure
a great CC drive by Venus, but she misses the BH DTL 0-30
2nd serve, CC return is just out 15-30
nice inside out FH approach and OH winner by Venus 30-30
inside out FH just missed by Venus 30-40
2nd serve, deep serve, Serena misses the return deuce
a great rally, Venus stumbled, FH winner by Serena match point
Venus digs deep, Serena misses the BH deuce
FH winner by Venus ad in
nice change of direction by Serena, the DTL shot makes Venus try the slice shot deuce
a great deep return off the 115mph serve match pont #3
Venus comes in off the netcord, OH , Serena chases it down, but it's out deuce
Fh error by Venus match point # 4
a nice return, Venus misses the Bh
Serena is the Champion again after 6 years

Posted by phillykat 07/04/2009 at 10:41 AM

AHHHHHHH
Wow
I really wanted Vee to win

Posted by Annie (Heavenly Creature wimby was not the same without you) 07/04/2009 at 10:41 AM

congrats to serena. boy, that wasn't a very tough day at the office.

Posted by jewell - Just say no to Fedal wars! 07/04/2009 at 10:41 AM

The FO men's final in 2008 was pretty one-sided too. Cut their pay!!!

Congrats to Serena! She played well - really stepped it up in the TB, and her serving and power maybe took some of Venus's confidence away. You really cannot *ever* count her out.

Commiserations and hugs to Venus fans.

Posted by Tfactor 07/04/2009 at 10:41 AM

Congrats to Serena and fans!
Sorry for Venus but again a great tournament for her at Wimbledon.
Good luck to both in doubles and also to the Bryan brothers.

Posted by temes 07/04/2009 at 10:41 AM

Wow! Great match by Serena, Venus was lacking today.

Posted by olive 07/04/2009 at 10:41 AM

this is venus not showing up. i hope it wasn't knee. but we won't know will we. her performance makes no sense.

can someone explain how can you disguise your serve against your life long hitting partner?

Posted by evie 07/04/2009 at 10:41 AM

Such a bummer. Congratulations to Serena. Sorry for Venus. I really wanted her to get the sixth.

She'll have to come back next year and do it.


Posted by elenas 07/04/2009 at 10:41 AM

Venus doesnt look like she just lost.

Posted by tennisesq. 07/04/2009 at 10:42 AM

Oh Vee. Come back at US Open.

Congrats to Serena's fans: temes, Avid, and all the rest.

Posted by Samantha Elin(supporter of all things Scandinavian.) 07/04/2009 at 10:42 AM

I'm not happy, I could just cry for V. Poor, poor V. Serena, could you please just pretend like you feel bad for V.

Posted by sally 07/04/2009 at 10:42 AM

go roger

Posted by Aussiemarg Madame President finally comes out of rehab and rejoices in Vamos Forever 07/04/2009 at 10:42 AM

Congrats Serena you are just a true champion and deserved this victory.great game plan today and you executed it perfectly

Well done Serena.


Bad luck Miss Vee,you were forced to play sometimes behind the baseline today.Tried hard as always.

Posted by Mike 07/04/2009 at 10:42 AM

"The FO men's final in 2008 was pretty one-sided too. Cut their pay!!!"

Any reason for this particular match to be bought up ... constantly?

Just sayin' ... it's getting old.

Posted by Cayman Karen (as defined by Ruth and Master Ace) 07/04/2009 at 10:43 AM

Oh man, I feel sorry for Venus. The look on her face says it all. She did not want to lose. She just did not have it in her today. Dont know if the knee was bothering her but she just did not seem herself, especially off the ground. So ironic, Serena won her last USO after 6 years and now 6 years later she wins her 3rd Wimbledon. Commisserations to all Venus fans (including myself) and congrats to all Serena fans (including myself).

Posted by Game Lover 07/04/2009 at 10:43 AM

So now that Venus has played (at least in the second set) as poorely as Dinara did against her, what have the nay sayers have to say?

Posted by avid sports fan aka "Sigh-Rena" 07/04/2009 at 10:43 AM

I must confess that even though I wanted Serena to win, seeing Vee being bossed around the court (her lawn) broke my heart *sigh*

Commiserations to Ruth, Karen, tennisesq., aussiemarg and all Vee fans. We will try and win the ladies doubles for Vee.

Posted by Ku 07/04/2009 at 10:44 AM

Aww man, Venus really deserved this Wimbledon. She played so well right up until that match. Serena is ruthless.

Posted by phillykat 07/04/2009 at 10:44 AM

Serena really wanted this. Her serve was amazing. Simply amazing.

Congrats to Serena, avid, other Serena fans.

Posted by tennisesq. 07/04/2009 at 10:44 AM

Venus, Wimbledon Champion, didn't show up today. This was Venus from the AO and RG.

Posted by olive 07/04/2009 at 10:45 AM

i love the williams sisters. i think women deserve equal pay. i just thought this match was was really poor. injury or illness of venus are the only acceptable excuses.

Posted by TennisFan2 07/04/2009 at 10:45 AM

Congrats to Serena - sad for Vee.

Posted by jewell - Just say no to Fedal wars! 07/04/2009 at 10:45 AM

Mike - sorry, it really wasn't a Fedal thing - I was annoyed at the constant complaints over women's one-sided matches not being as entertaining as the men's, and that was the first match I thought of. Last straw, losing temper, and all that. It was literally just the first example that came to mind. And fwiw, I didn't enjoy that particular match much.

if you can provide me with another one, I'll happily bring that up next time. *grin*

Posted by evie 07/04/2009 at 10:45 AM

Three of four Slams. Well done, Serena.

Venus is gracious as ever.

Posted by Tim (2009 Year of Red Rogie ) 07/04/2009 at 10:46 AM

glad i slept through that one, womens tennis needs a new script, pronto...

Posted by Babe 07/04/2009 at 10:46 AM

Hallelujah---CONGRATULATIONS Ms. S. Williams--You have done it!

Hallelujah!!!!!

Commiserations to the Venus corner!!
Well done, Serena!

Posted by yello fuzzy 07/04/2009 at 10:46 AM

Serena was one of the only players to challenge her serve, throughout the whole tournament, the extra pressure paid off for Serena today...and playing against your livelong hitting partner is tricky...Serena knows better than anybody where those serves are going and Serena is one of the best returners in the womens game

Posted by tennisesq. 07/04/2009 at 10:46 AM

Thanks avid,
Serena totally deserved the Championship. After that remarkable semifinal and her serve, that darn serve, Vee could do little today.

Posted by Mr. X 07/04/2009 at 10:46 AM

Serena Williams is the 2009 Wimbledon Champion, as she has defeated Venus 7-6,6-2.
Congratulations to Serena and her fans on her 11th Grand Slam and 3rd Wimbledon title. Those are remarkable numbers
Conmiserations to Venus and her fans. I keep thinking that she, and her knee, were not ready to handle Serena in a long match today.
About the match, the abvious key moment was when Venus couldnt break at 3-4 in the 1st set, having an easy passing shot with the court open. From there on, Serena just didnt give her a chance with her great serves and dominating the rallies with her FH. In the second set, specially after 2-2, Venus's serve and movement just went away, affected in my opinion by the bad knee.
This wasnt a brilliant match. The first serve was of higher quality, and the second was very affected by Venus's low level.
Serena will have to carry her sister in the doubles final later today.

Posted by yello fuzzy 07/04/2009 at 10:47 AM

Venus is a bit dejected..she wanted the 3 in a row and the 6 titles

Posted by Samantha Elin(supporter of all things Scandinavian.) 07/04/2009 at 10:47 AM

Karen, I can't explain it, she didn't look like the playe we have been watching for the last two weeks. I wanted V to win so badly. You can see the sadness on V's face. V for the USO. Doesn't anybody else believe V can win the USO? I'm trying to stay positive when I feel bad.

Posted by Babe 07/04/2009 at 10:47 AM

Boy-o-boy, What a Serve!

Posted by Pspace 07/04/2009 at 10:48 AM

Congrats to Serena fans. Wow! Three of the last 4 slams. Unbelievable. Oof. Those who made the formula for ranking never accounted for such a situation ;-). Good times.

Commiserations to Venus fans.

Posted by avid sports fan aka "Sigh-Rena" 07/04/2009 at 10:48 AM

Serena seems to do the things that are unexpected. like getting back to no. 1 after 5 years, winning GSs 6 years between each other. oh well what do you do?

Posted by evie 07/04/2009 at 10:49 AM

Venus cares the most about Wimbledon. She can win the others, but her heart never seems into it in the same way.


Posted by phillykat 07/04/2009 at 10:51 AM

i want to cry
Vee looks so crushed while Serena is talking to Sue Barker

Posted by sally 07/04/2009 at 10:51 AM

venus doesn't really look that sad.

Posted by Ruth 07/04/2009 at 10:51 AM

IamnotlisteningIamnotlisteningIamnotlistening --to Serena! LOL

Congrats, avid!

Posted by Mike 07/04/2009 at 10:51 AM

Sorry, Jewell ... that one is commonly trotted out whenever Fed and/or Rafa is in a Final ... which is most of the time, so it's getting dreadfully close to broken record status. Perhaps we can search for other popular trounces to liven things up a bit. ;)

Posted by Babe 07/04/2009 at 10:51 AM

Serena was much more battle tested & it showed. It's always dangerous to face someone after they've said match points in the previous round. And, oh yea, having a trememdously superior SERVE doesn't hurt either.

Posted by Samantha Elin(supporter of all things Scandinavian.) 07/04/2009 at 10:52 AM

Game Lover, you need to leave V alone and how dare you compare her to the way Safina play. She took 8 points compared to l, there is no comparison. Congrats to V for playing a great Wimbledon. She's a great champion.

Posted by Babe 07/04/2009 at 10:53 AM

Samantha--Venus knows that Serena, when at her best, is the better of the two. That counts for a lot. Against Safina, that was not an issue--not at all.

Posted by london 07/04/2009 at 10:53 AM

good job serena. venus not looking too bad makes me feel better. im happy with the outcome.

Posted by olive 07/04/2009 at 10:53 AM

"Serena knows better than anybody where those serves are going and Serena is one of the best returners in the womens game"

replace serena with venus and...?

Posted by olive 07/04/2009 at 10:54 AM

or rather add the qualifier or returner on grass...

Posted by Mr. X 07/04/2009 at 10:54 AM

Serena looked absolutely delighted walking around the court with her trophy. Very happy for her. I wish Venus would have been able to challenge her much more, to make for a more entertaining match.
I agree with Matt Z that it's fitting that Serena is the champion, considering that she was the winner of what was, by far, the best match of the tournament in the WTA.

Posted by jewell - Just say no to Fedal wars! 07/04/2009 at 10:56 AM

yeah, I can see how you feel, Mike. I promise you, when it's Fed and Rafa in a final, I mostly think of Wimbledon 2007...and at Madrid this year, all I could think of was Hamburg in 2007. ;-)

Master Ace, anyone? Some recent and unentertaining trounces in ATP slam finals? LOL.

Posted by Samantha Elin(supporter of all things Scandinavian.) 07/04/2009 at 10:56 AM

Babe, with all due respect, yes, Serena won this one, but I still believe V is a better grass court player as she has won 5 Wimbledon and beat Serena when she was on her game last year. Poor V. Venus Williams, USO champion!

Posted by yello fuzzy 07/04/2009 at 10:57 AM

I think Venus is the more popular champion here...Serena is unfortunately the villain in womens tennis
Venus is extremely disappointed, she played her best ever the last 2 weeks

Posted by evie 07/04/2009 at 10:58 AM

She's counting up her name on the champions list and saying, "Hmm, catching up."

Funny. It's nice to see her so excited.


Posted by Babe 07/04/2009 at 10:58 AM

I absolutely agree with Matt Z & Mr. X--Serena's semi battle earned this win & a few more rounds. That was simply a tremendous match--though she almost caused me to have a stroke.

Posted by Ruth 07/04/2009 at 10:58 AM

"evie I agree 5 sets for the women, it will shut up all those equal play, equal pay folks"

Nothing would shut up the idiots who think that the length of a tennis match should determine the prize money. They'd probably support less prizemoney for the 100 meter runners than is given to the milers or the marathoners!

As I said -- idiots!

Posted by Carrie 07/04/2009 at 10:58 AM

Mike and jewell- if looking for trounces how about the Feds/Hewitt 2004 USO final. Didn't that have two bagels?

Congrats to Serena. Venus looks crushed. She is much more of a quiet person though so her disappointment sometimes seems more muted than Serean's after these matches although it is likely as keenly felt.

I think I have seen my brother in the the first row courtside. He sometimes gets really sweet tickets through his work (got to see Agassi's last match against Nadal from two or three rows up.) Have to say sometimes I get a wee bit jealous. My parents and my brother have all been able to go the RG and Wimledon more than once each and I have never been to either.

Posted by jewell - Just say no to Fedal wars! 07/04/2009 at 10:58 AM

and I'm not sure this one was really a trounce. That first set was tight, and Serena stepped it up in the TB. Second set was all Serena.

I love that fire and intensity of hers. It's incredible.

Posted by yello fuzzy 07/04/2009 at 10:59 AM

olive
Serena serve is better than Venus's, she's more consistent and has a better 2nd serve

Posted by avid sports fan aka "Sigh-Rena" 07/04/2009 at 10:59 AM

Vee is not happy but there is nothing she can do. Her serve just went AWOL.

As for the difference between the serves while Vee is able to generate more power and speed from hers because of her height but she has toss problems. That is why it is easier for Vee to use the body serves mor eto her advantage. She can use the length. However Serena toss is well disguised and shorter and not wonky and she has the same toss regardless of where she is directing the ball. It is just what it is regardlessThis is why I say that when Serena's serve is on I will choose it over Vee's any day. Serena also has a very good second serve. Even in the Elena match, the serve played a great role. Basically the serve came back in time since AO to win her another GS.

The serve may go on vacation again and be back for USO I hope.

Posted by tennisesq. 07/04/2009 at 10:59 AM

I hope Venus can keep her ranking up there by USO time so she doesn't have to meet Serena before the SF.

Posted by olive 07/04/2009 at 11:00 AM

an impressive semi-final win doesn't make it so that a player deserve to win a final.

Posted by Mr. X 07/04/2009 at 11:00 AM

Well, real live is calling me right now.
I wont be able to be around tomorrow during the men's final, so i'll say: Go Andy! That would be a tremendous feel-good story, for sure.
However, i think Fed will win.
See you tomorrow, everyone.

Posted by yello fuzzy 07/04/2009 at 11:00 AM

Serena just lost 8 points on serve today

Posted by Carrie 07/04/2009 at 11:01 AM

I like that Serena is pretty honest about how much winning means to her and also that she is not always the best loser.

Posted by tennisesq. 07/04/2009 at 11:02 AM

Serena tells Carillo, "for the first time in my career I didn't expect to win today."

Posted by Babe 07/04/2009 at 11:03 AM

No problme Samantha, but last year everyone knows that Serena self-destructed. She came out on fire but got down on herself--Venus stayed calm & played the better points when it counted. But, it's a point on which reasonable minds can disagree. I think Serena is the best--though Venus is superior on grass, also Venus had all the pressure & that counts for a lot too. But, for me, Venus is the second best player all-round in the Williams household.

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