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Saturday Watercooler 11/07/2009 - 9:00 AM

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Howdy, everyone. I've got a lot of errands to do today - have to put the chains and plow on the tractor, make sure the truck is winterized, drain the outside water lines. . . the usual. It sure is November here in game-rich Andes. Anyway, it seems like the landmark double bagel Novak Djokovic pasted on a hapless opponent the other other day has left him feeling his oats. Now he's calling for summit meeting to address the length-of-season issue. Next week, I want to circle back on this issue, because I've thought about it quite a bit since I wrote my last post. Meanwhile, enjoy today's action form Basel and Bali, and keep your mind open so good things don't find the door locked and nobody home. Now I feel like Senator Stuart Smalley, the celebrity politician (not to be confused with Madonna's ex, Citizen Spicoli.) Later - Pete


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Posted by Andrew 11/07/2009 at 09:12 AM

Morning, all.

Both lads in very good nick in Basel - 4-3 Djokovic on serve, and on the evidence of the last couple of games some very clean hitting.

Posted by Nic 11/07/2009 at 09:14 AM

Cool photo of Nole.

Radek v. Nole semi of Basel
http://tinyurl.com/ygcn8ow

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 09:19 AM

Thanks for the post pete. We needed a place to discuss today's tennis.

4-all in steps/djoko. this is gonna be good.

'morning everyone!

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 09:20 AM

That is a fricking awesome pic of nole up top. the falcon.

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 09:22 AM

steps just howled in pain missing a return. hopped around a little, checked out his foot and then decided he was okay. phew.

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:23 AM

Hi Annie and other tennis watchers. :)

Nole v. Worm is a good match. I hope Nole comes through but I am really enjoying watching frazzle free tennis!

Thanks for the picture of Nole Pete. Awesome.

Posted by Andrew 11/07/2009 at 09:24 AM

Two holds, 5-4 Djokovic on serve. Wrong foots Stepanek on the 30-30 point (slight ankle turn for Stepanek, but he looks OK), then a DF - but no worries from deuce.

Posted by Nic 11/07/2009 at 09:28 AM

There have been some really good points. I just wish Radek would get some clearance on that first serve. If this first set goes to tb, it will hurt him.

Posted by Arun 11/07/2009 at 09:29 AM

some very good tennis by both.

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:30 AM

BTW, interesting that Novak wants a meeting ASAP. Gosh, the ATP has got to look at the calendar with all these players limping to the end of the season. Or, one would think.

Some great shots being played in this match.


Posted by Andrew 11/07/2009 at 09:32 AM

Stonking good stuff in Basel. Two delightful points in that Djokovic service game - top quality movement and touch, net awareness, spin and control. Late 2000s all court ATP tennis at its best.

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 09:33 AM

hey rafadoc, nic, andrew and arun! lovely to see non-confrontational twibers here this morning!

Posted by Nic 11/07/2009 at 09:34 AM

Don't they generally have meetings of the players council immediately before slams because everyone's there? I guess he would be keen on getting something up before the AO at which point the issue would lose it's freshness.

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:36 AM

Gosh...now I am finding myself rooting for the Worm. I mean, my daughter is a fan, no? I worry about him in the TB though.

Really enjoyable match here.

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 09:36 AM

so nice to see S&V from steps. It's becoming a lost art.

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:38 AM

Nic. I think you are right about the timing. Well, if Adam Helfant is smart, he would go along with an impromptu meeting, imo. He should want to appear at least concerned enough to do that.

Steps 2-0 in the TB.

Posted by VC 11/07/2009 at 09:38 AM

Is anybody in Asia, and if so, do they know whether they will show the semifinals and finals of Basel live? I can't stream right now. :-(

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 09:39 AM

nic, i know they had a meeting at IW last year so it doesn't necessarily have to be at a slam. They could meet at the YEC because there you would have the top 8 who are the guys that go deepest into tournies the most often. the calendar effects them the most and i presume it's less mandatories that they want.

Posted by Arun 11/07/2009 at 09:41 AM

crazy touch by Steps.

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:41 AM

Not in Asia VC. But, sorry to hear you can't stream right now. :(

Great point by the Worm there. 3-2 Steps in the TB

Posted by Arun 11/07/2009 at 09:41 AM

hi Annie!

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:41 AM

YEC is a great idea Annie.

Worm is up 4-2 in the TB.

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:42 AM

WHAT a body serve. Geez.

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 09:42 AM

good point rafadoc. Helfant should do an impromtu meeting. His players are his asset, no?

VC, can you get tennistv?

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:43 AM

Nole is talking to himself. Not a good sign.

Okay Nole, I am back on the bandwagon. Just hold it together. And, he gets it to 5-4.

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:44 AM

The Worm with the first set. Yowzer.

Posted by Nic 11/07/2009 at 09:45 AM

Annie - Are you talking to me? *De Niro in Taxi Driver style* Who says I'm non-confrontational? I'll take them on.

But would Gimelstob be there? Because you can't have a meeting without him.

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 09:45 AM

Steps doesn't appeal to me personality-wise but gee he's got a wonderful game. This DC final in dec. is going to be a barn burner.

Posted by Andrew 11/07/2009 at 09:45 AM

And a 2-1 mini break ratio goes Stepanek's way. First set 7-6 (4).

Stepanek is mixing in a lot of S-and-V, particularly on the first serve. Basel may be the fastest court on the circuit, and Stepanek is one of the best volleyers in the ATP, so it makes sense. Should gladden NP's heart.

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:46 AM

Nic...lol @ your DeNiro impression.

Posted by VC 11/07/2009 at 09:46 AM

Annie, rafadoc : My internet connection isn't good enough for streams at the moment, so I'm forced to rely on TV. But they were showing all the matches till yesterday, so I was kind of assuming that it would continue. Apparently not. :-(

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 09:48 AM

Nic: lol. i think i might borrow that in the future :)

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:48 AM

VC: Weird that they would STOP showing the matches at this point in the tournament. Makes me wonder if weekend coverage switched to another station. Hopefully one of the TWibe will be able to help you out.

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:51 AM

You talkin' to me? (warning: there is an F bomb in there):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKkMkodo4MI

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 09:52 AM

Lovely jelena in the stands watching her man. she is sooo beautiful.

Posted by VC 11/07/2009 at 09:53 AM

rafadoc : No, football is higher priority in Asia, so I think they switch to that during weekends. There are only two channels. Not that I don't like football, but I want to watch the tennis right now.

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:54 AM

Geez. lovely volley by Steps.

Posted by ladyjulia 11/07/2009 at 09:54 AM

Nole a set down?

Posted by Andrew 11/07/2009 at 09:55 AM

Three holds, and it's 2-1 Stepanek, on serve. The quality is still superb - good serving, deep groundstrokes and some lovely points.

Posted by Master Ace 11/07/2009 at 09:55 AM

Saturday Order of Play

Basel
Radek Stepanek leads Novak Djokovic 7-6(4),2-1
Roger Federer vs Marco Chiudinelli

Valencia - Starts at Noon
Mikhail Youzhny vs Nikolay Davydenko
Andy Murray vs Fernando Verdasco

Bali
Marion Bartoli defeated Kimiko Date-Krumm 6-1,6-3
Aravane Rezai defeated Maria Jose Martinez Sanchez 6-2,6-3
Marion Bartoli vs Aravane Rezai final tomorrow at 1:30 AM

Fed Cup - Italy leads tie 1-0 over United States
Flavia Pennetta defeated Alexa Glatch 6-3,6-1
Francesca Schiavone leads Melanie Oudin 7-6(2)
*Melanie Oudin vs Flavia Pennetta
*Alexa Glatch vs Francesca Schiavone
*Liezel Huber and Vania King vs Sara Errani and Roberta Vinci
* = To be played on Sunday

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:55 AM

Aw. Sorry to hear that VC. *sad face*. Maybe someone could at least match call the matches you want to see.

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 09:55 AM

I wonder if steps has even an outside chance to make it to the YEC. Let's say he gets to the SF here or even, hah, gets by Fed and wins it and then has a great showing in Paris.

Posted by VC 11/07/2009 at 09:56 AM

When are the Valencia semis going to take place? Some great matches there also.

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:58 AM

Hi ladyjulia: Yep. Nole is down a set. It has been a great, high quality match so far. Lots of variety in shots with Steps playing.

Robbie says "he has a lot of junk in his trunk" in describing Stepanek. Never heard that used for tennis before. Usually more to describe someone with Rafa's err, "assets". Hee.

Posted by Samantha Elin 11/07/2009 at 09:58 AM

The US down l set after losing the opening. Would disagree with the announcers saying Oudin lost the first set because of a lack of experience, to me it's the lack of a weapon and serve which can hurt a good clay court player like Franie

Posted by Samantha Elin 11/07/2009 at 09:58 AM

The US down l set after losing the opening. Would disagree with the announcers saying Oudin lost the first set because of a lack of experience, to me it's the lack of a weapon and serve which can hurt a good clay court player like Franie

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 09:58 AM

Just checked the atp site. steps is in 12th position as of today. he moved up two places by beating cilic. if he beats nole today he'll move closer. this is very exciting.

Posted by VC 11/07/2009 at 09:58 AM

Thanks, rafadoc.

Is Fed's match right after this one?

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 09:59 AM

Sam: Thanks for the Fed Cup update.

Posted by yello fuzzy 11/07/2009 at 09:59 AM

morning ladies and germs
anyone watching the Fed Cup? Oudin seems to be holding her own

Posted by Nic 11/07/2009 at 09:59 AM

Annie - according to the ATP site, Radek is in with a numerical chance. But he's over a thousand points behind Nando.

Posted by VC 11/07/2009 at 09:59 AM

Sounds like a high-quality match this one. Must catch the replay whenever they show it.

Posted by tina 11/07/2009 at 10:00 AM

Robbie Koenig just made a great point, going back to our discussion of Davis Cup. For the guys who are out of the top, say, five, DC can be a great motivation in normal tour matches. He cited Nando and, here, Stepanek. I may be pissed off that Czech Republic knocked out Croatia, but I, too, have been very impressed with the Worm this week. Still - go, Noleta!

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 10:00 AM

VC: Yes, Roger is up next.

Posted by VC 11/07/2009 at 10:01 AM

Nole can't be that far behind Rafa in the rankings either, right, now that he has overtaken Murray? Probably less than a 1000 points.

Posted by Mr. and Mrs. D. 11/07/2009 at 10:01 AM

Samantha: can oudin do anything well?

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 10:01 AM

rafadoc: when i hear 'junk in the trunk' i think serena!

Posted by Arun 11/07/2009 at 10:01 AM

YF: Yeah. I'm surprised Oudin is able compete so well on clay.
Of course, Franny is in a league of her own. what variety!

Posted by Master Ace 11/07/2009 at 10:02 AM

Melanie breaks as she hit drop shot for winner.

Melanie to serve 6-7(2),1-0

Posted by yello fuzzy 11/07/2009 at 10:02 AM

Oudin is showing some nice variety on the dirt
a brilliant droppa winner on break point by Mel!

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 10:02 AM

As for Valencia, it is dubs first and then at 18:00 Youz and Davy.

Annie: yah, Serena fits that phrase. :)

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 10:02 AM

Does anybody do S&V better than steps in the game today? I think not.

Posted by Arun 11/07/2009 at 10:02 AM

the only glitch is the commie seems to be having an irritating throat problem.

Posted by Arun 11/07/2009 at 10:04 AM

Annie: I think Llodra does. But Steps is different; in the sense, unlike Llodra he likes to tease his opponents with one more volley, one more volley and so on before putting them out of their misery.

Posted by Jacko (Private Detective) Kim FTW!!!!!!!!! 11/07/2009 at 10:04 AM

Melanie had a bit of a blip in that TB imo.....but she seems to have gotten things back on track again.....

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 10:05 AM

Nole keeps trying to lob. Stop. It.

Posted by yello fuzzy 11/07/2009 at 10:06 AM

Arun
both players are using the slice BH a lot , Mel gets a nice short angle on hers

Posted by Andrew 11/07/2009 at 10:06 AM

First time Stepanek's serve has been under pressure, and he comes through. Loved the S-and-V on second serve at 30-40 - I had a sense he'd go for it, and the second winning FH volley was clean as a whistle. 3-2 Stepanek, on serve.

Posted by Master Ace 11/07/2009 at 10:06 AM

15-40 Melanie nets FH
Francesca breaks as Melanie BH sails long

Francesca to serve 7-6(2),1-all

Posted by Taco Bell 11/07/2009 at 10:07 AM

any links please to nole match

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 10:07 AM

6,590-Nole
8,895-Rafa

VC, not so close.

I wanted nole to break there so we could have a third set but i think steps is going to win this match on the strength of his volleying.

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 10:08 AM

Oh SHOT by Steps. You have got to be kidding me.

Posted by ladyjulia 11/07/2009 at 10:09 AM

Hi rafadoc,

Started watching after the first set..looks like a high quality match.

Steps with a huge "Come on"...and Nole applauding.

Posted by Jacko (Private Detective) Kim FTW!!!!!!!!! 11/07/2009 at 10:09 AM

and just as i say it she loses two games easily...

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 10:09 AM

Taco Bell: A link is posted @9:14 by Nic.

Posted by Jacko (Private Detective) Kim FTW!!!!!!!!! 11/07/2009 at 10:10 AM

Melanie's shoes look so common..... :(

Posted by VC 11/07/2009 at 10:10 AM

Annie : H'm, you're right. I just checked the ATP site. I was kind of wondering how Murray took the No. 2 spot for a while, and is now so far behind, but I've never paid much attention to the ranking point movements, so I should probably stick to that.

Is this match like the Federer-Stepanek Rome match? Two tiebreaks in that one also if I remember correctly.

Posted by Master Ace 11/07/2009 at 10:11 AM

0-40 Melanie gets to volley but sails FH wide
10 pts in a row for Francesca
Francesca breaks as Melanie FH sails long set up by Francesca FH return to deuce side

Francesca to serve 7-6(2),3-1

Posted by Jacko (Private Detective) FREE WICKY!!!!!!! 11/07/2009 at 10:11 AM

make that 3 games easily...

Posted by yello fuzzy 11/07/2009 at 10:12 AM

Mel is getting a bit negative out there and Schiavone is feasting on it

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 10:12 AM

Thanks Jacko and MA for the FC updates. No "believe" shoes Jacko?

Posted by Jacko (Private Detective) FREE WICKY!!!!!!! 11/07/2009 at 10:15 AM

well rafadoc.....they're white to begin with......and the cameras havent gone into the shoes to see if they say believe or not...
Mel lost a bit of her fight.......but is getting it back again...this game cud be crucial...

Posted by Andrew 11/07/2009 at 10:15 AM

Son of a gun. That 40-15 point is emblemmatic of what we've seen so far - fizz and touch and athleticism. Still on serve after Djokovic saves a BP.

Fun to look at the crowd, too. If you ever wanted to see the bourgeoisie, the burghers of Basel are your bunch.

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 10:16 AM

If steps brings this game to fed tomorrow, the swiss maestro will have his hands full.

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 10:17 AM

Annie: When the Worm is on, he is a handful. And he is on today. Wow.

Posted by VC 11/07/2009 at 10:18 AM

He he, let's see whether Fed beats his doubles partner first. :-)

Posted by Samantha Elin 11/07/2009 at 10:20 AM

Mr. and Mrs. D, yes, she can, she is a great fighter, lots of tenacity, determination and belief. But can that overcome a limited game? Is believe more important than a great serve?

Posted by Master Ace 11/07/2009 at 10:21 AM

30-40 for Francesca as Melanie BH hit the tape and bounced on her side
Francesca breaks as Melanie DF

Francesca serving for the rubber 7-6(2),5-1

Posted by Or 11/07/2009 at 10:24 AM

Whenever Djoko gives that wry/frustrated smile, you know things are going badly for him.

Posted by Master Ace 11/07/2009 at 10:24 AM

15-0 ????
15-15 Francesca DF
15-30 Francesca BH long
30-30 ????
30-40 Francesca nets FH passing shot as Melanie come in on FH approach and hit volley
Melanie breaks as Francesca FH sails wide

Melanie to serve 6-7(2),2-5

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/07/2009 at 10:26 AM

andrew: have there been any breaks of serve in this match?

Posted by Mr. and Mrs. D. 11/07/2009 at 10:26 AM

Thanks for match call MA...I don't have a stream.

Posted by ladyjulia 11/07/2009 at 10:27 AM

Nole better hold..

Posted by Arun 11/07/2009 at 10:28 AM

Try this, Mr and Mrs D.
http://www.fromsport.com/video-109566.html

Posted by Samantha Elin 11/07/2009 at 10:28 AM

Let me put it this way Mr. and Mrs. D, a toy poodle can have all the determination, tenacity and belief that he can beat a pit bull, but if he doesn't have the teeth(weapon) can he do it?

Posted by lollipop (rafelfole forever) 11/07/2009 at 10:28 AM

Just got home. Nole is one game away from being blitzed by the worm in straights???
Gahhhhh

Posted by Master Ace 11/07/2009 at 10:29 AM

30-40 for Francesca as Melanie DF
Francesca wins the match as Melanie nets FH

Francesca Schiavone defeated Melanie Oudin 7-6(2),6-2

Posted by rafadoc 11/07/2009 at 10:29 AM

Nole got inpatient there. Terrible dropper.

Posted by lollipop (rafelfole forever) 11/07/2009 at 10:30 AM

sh**. the dreaded dropper. omg.

Posted by ladyjulia 11/07/2009 at 10:30 AM

Nole's dropshot dosen't make it across the net..

Nole down 6-7, 5-4, 0-30

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