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In Charleston in Pain 04/18/2010 - 9:25 AM

Dinara

by Bobby Chintapalli, TW Contributing Editor

Remember when you didn’t need a medical degree to talk about tennis? When bandages weren’t a girl’s best friend? When tennis player Dinara Safina actually played tennis? Those were the good, old days, weren’t they? Long ago my journalism professors discouraged starting an article with a question, so I suspect they would have advised against starting with four. Yet I can’t think of starting an article on a topic chock full of questions any other way. And while we’re at it here’s another one: What on earth is going on?

Pulling Out

Certainly not tennis for players who retired from the Family Circle Cup in Charleston this week. What can I say about poor Caroline Wozniacki and that fall in her semifinal match against Vera Zvonareva yesterday that you didn’t see played and replayed on TV a million times? Ouch!

Olga Govortsova retired with a left knee injury and Ayumi Morita and Elena Vesnina with a left adductor strain. Marion Bartoli pulled out with a condition that won’t make us pull out a medical dictionary though it might make us raise an eyebrow – dizziness. Victoria Azarenka, before she flew to Chicago then Rome and tweeted desperately to everyone for a flight to anywhere, pulled out of Charleston with a left hamstring injury she got in Marbella.

Other players also not playing much tennis include those who withdrew before the tournament even began:

- Sybille Bammer (Achilles injury)
- Kateryna Bondarenko (Left knee injury)
- Dominika Cibulkova (Right hip strain)
- Casey Dellacqua (Right foot injury)
- Alisa Kleybanova (Plantar fasciitis)
- Viktoriya Kutuzova (Back injury)
- Sabine Lisicki (Left ankle injury)
- Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova (Foot injury)
- Maria Sharapova (Right elbow injury)
- Serena Williams (Left knee injury)

And the tennis players who are “lucky” enough to play tennis, aren’t lucky enough to do so without bandages. Watching matches at the event for four days I saw only two or three players who weren’t wearing bandages at some point. They could be to aid recovery, prevent injury or just provide “support” – the point is, these days they’re always there. Singles finalist Vera Zvonareva still wears an ankle brace a year after injuring her right ankle in a horrible fall at this tournament last year (though she said yesterday she feels like she’s finally fully recovered); she eventually ended up getting surgery and tumbling out of the Top 20. And the other finalist, Sam Stosur, casually mentioned that she sprained her ankle last week.

Figuring It Out

So what is going on? Well, a few veteran players have some ideas.

Patty Schnyder, who turned pro 16 years ago, pointed to the greater depth of the game: “[The] competition is really tough. The top level maybe it’s the same, but it’s like the density between 10 and 40, 50 that’s really improved a lot in the women’s game. So you don’t get many free rounds and easy rounds to warm up. You really have to be sharp… in the very first match… that takes a lot of energy.”

Nadia Petrova, who turned pro 11 years ago, cited the increase in power and the number of tournaments played: “First of all, the level of game is getting higher. It’s getting more powerful, and you really have to push yourself further in the matches, and that creates some kind of injuries. But then a lot of girls are playing way too many tournaments and they just don’t have enough time to get the body some rest and work on some fitness so they stay stronger.”

Vera Zvonareva, who turned pro 10 years ago, thought scheduling was part of the problem: “The schedule is very tough for players. Right now it’s pretty much the same schedule for everybody, but everyone is different. Everybody has different level of fitness, different bodies, different results, different amount of matches that they played in the previous weeks. So it is very difficult to manage and schedule it. And sometimes you’re forced to play a lot of events when you’re tired, and that’s most of the times when injuries are coming, when your body is not fresh.”

Another possibility may be the length of the off season. Tennis’s off season seems rather short compared to other sports. Surely there are other factors too.

But if something doesn’t change, that can’t be good for these young, young players, fans or the game both love.


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Posted by Master Ace 04/21/2010 at 04:43 PM

Thursday Order of Play from Barcelona:

4:30 AM - Ferrer, Bellucci, Ferrero and Gulbis scheduled
8:35 AM - Almagro vs Tsonga, Verdasco and Lopez vs Soderling scheduled

There is a chance of an all Spanish QF on Friday as it is a battle of Spain vs The World in 3rd round

Posted by Master Ace 04/21/2010 at 04:45 PM

Aussiemarg,
No, Venus for me but I do have "Believe", Elena D and others to watch.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/21/2010 at 04:48 PM

Master Ace lol! "Believe".Actually Elena D is a great to watch live.I have seen her twice now when she has competed in Sydney Medibank.

Posted by Diane 04/21/2010 at 05:38 PM

Master Ace,
We didn't get tickets for this match even though the drive isn't so far for us from Atlanta. We would still need to book a hotel in Birmingham as we did last time for Davis Cup when Roger didn't show up! Altough we met the whole Swiss team in our hotel as they were staying on the same floor as us.
Hope you have a great time at the matches!

Posted by chicklet 04/21/2010 at 05:49 PM

Is Gonzo struggling with injury as well, or did he just have a bad day?
Can't believe he lost first round.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/21/2010 at 05:55 PM

chicklet I dont know.Its hard when there isnt any streams.Though he has always had that knee problem.

Posted by Master Ace 04/21/2010 at 06:05 PM

Diane,
Despite WS not playing, I intend on having a good time but I can understand why they are not playing. Also, I would not be surprised if Venus did not play Stuttgart next week.

Posted by Tic 04/21/2010 at 06:36 PM

Juan Antonio Samaranch presenting Nadal with gold Olympic medal:
http://s1.postimage.org/dayUA-0c98cd9fc10c0d5c4a813a476e415537.jpg

Rafa on Facebook:
Hi everyone. I don't usually post much when I am at home but today it is a sad day and wanted to share with you my feelings. I heard this afternoon about the bad news of Juan Antonio Samaranch leaving us. This is very sad news for the world of sports. He was a great man and someone very close to all of us.
I will travel tomorrow to Barcelona to be with his family, the sports family!

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/21/2010 at 06:50 PM

Thanks Tic I was just on Rafa's face book.

He did soo much for sport In Spain.Zengii also noted that before.

Posted by Peg 04/21/2010 at 07:22 PM

Thanks for the match reports, y'all (and the commiserations on Jezza. Oof).

btw, zenggi, I'm starting to like your boy Thiemo's odds for breakthrough player of the year (or whatever that award is called). If nothing else, it seems like he can usually be counted to get past the first round of events these days (drawing Roddick for AO was rough luck), which is more than I can say for half of the other hapless flakes I end up rooting for.

Posted by Peg 04/21/2010 at 07:24 PM

also to zenggi: thanks for translating tdb's tweets. Adorable!

Posted by manuelsantanafan 04/21/2010 at 08:00 PM

To set the record straight on "His Excellency" Samaranch in about 100 words. . . .

Samaranch was a corrupt, embarrassingly egocentric toad who was the antithesis of the highest Olympic ideals.

The best thing he ever did for his wife was fly to the Sydney Olympics while she was dying so that she could leave this earth without his filthy presence at her bedside.

Luckily for Spain, this physical and moral dwarf was unsuccessful in bringing the Summer Olympics to Madrid.

Unfortunately for the Olympics, Samaranch, instead of being stillborn, left a trail of slime in his wake for far too many decades.

Posted by ActionFlunky 04/21/2010 at 08:16 PM

So if I'm a GM and have doubts regarding my starting QB, I take a run at R-berger, even if it costs a first rounder. Yeah, the guy's one step away from Vick/Plaxico territory, but there's no doubting his talent or production between the lines. (Remember, he's only one ring behind the already canonized Brady and he's only 28.) Again, a gamble, but if I'm Oakland, Buffalo, SF, KC, Cleveland, etc, I take it. I wonder even if Miami would, though they seemed to like what they saw of Henne last year.

Elsewhere the Cubs go for five in a row in whatever they call the new Shea now. Five losses, that is.

Posted by Angel of the Surf (The Youz for the top 10) 04/21/2010 at 08:23 PM

Hidey Ho folks

Goodness Gonzo loss, actually forgot he was playing this week. Happy that Ferru and Melzer came through in their matches.

I knew Tiger had no taste, now it has been confirmed by him going to a Nickleback concert. No wonder Elin left him.

Posted by just a note 04/21/2010 at 08:28 PM

Well MSF, I couldn't say it like that, however, I never cared for the man either. No facts, files, or specifics to back it up. He supposedly "saved" the Olympic movement by commercializing it and I always believed he had his hand in the pot. I wanted to say what I felt, have tried to be cautious and I'm sorry if my words hurt those who liked him and I wish his family well. )

Posted by Angel of the Surf (The Youz for the top 10) 04/21/2010 at 08:37 PM

zenggi thank you for enlightening me on TBB, I am going to put him in my stable of players. Mind you though he will have to make his way up the pecking order.

I must get on twitter.

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 04/21/2010 at 09:12 PM

MA: enjoy your trip to Fed Cup!

So I'm watching Rome 07 and this is the first year it's 2outof3 and it was over quickly. First ever to win 3 straight in Rome. didn't know that. Anyway, I really wish the masters finals were 3 out of 5.

Angel, LOL at your tiger/nickelback comment.

Posted by Angel of the Surf (The Youz for the top 10) 04/21/2010 at 09:18 PM

Apparently Gonzo tweeted after his match

Cansado y apenado ... No jugue bien
'Tired and distressed ... I did not play well'

Annie - I can't stand that band.

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 10:16 PM

Nickelback sucks.

Posted by citrus 04/22/2010 at 12:37 AM

is this where i post my comments? its all too confusing

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 04/22/2010 at 12:45 AM

Hi citrus. yes, it's been very confusing around here lately. I think this is the thread for general topics.

Posted by rg.nadal 04/22/2010 at 01:25 AM

Hello all!

First complaint of the day: Almagro getting to play Tsonga again! Thrid time this year. Hope at least this time Nico wins.

Happy that Melanie has a chance to be seeded for RG!

Sad that Ancic lost at the small tournament at Rome!

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 01:29 AM

Afternoon All,

Phew waited for hours to get my wrist x rayed.pfft.

Poor Mario I was talking about him yesterday RG

Small steps Mario

Posted by zenggi 04/22/2010 at 01:31 AM

Good morning,

Nickelback, the band?

Peg and Angel, Thank you for following Thiemo. We have a Jeremy-Thiemo club already. Yay!!

To set the record straight. Samaranch went to the opening of the Olympic Games in Sydney in 2000 knowing that his wife Bibi was very ill (cancer). But he was the president of the IOC and that was his job. He was planning to stay there for the duration of the OG but was called by her doctors when her health rapidly deteriorated. He was back in Barcelona when she died at home.

To say that in the 80's he commercialized the OG isn't a disgrace but an achievement that runs parallel to people being able to afford a color TV set or buy Nike or Adidas wear. Advanced technology, sponsors and media coverage isn't Samaranch's fault.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 01:32 AM

I see Steve has new topic up with GS etc.After his other post do I dare go over and have a look? LOL!

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 01:34 AM

zengii I was reading earlier that they really wanted to have the Olympics in Madrid for a thank you for his tireless work.Alas it didnt happen.He would have had to watch it from Heaven I suppose.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 01:37 AM

I remember how he mispronnounced Sydney he said Sididney lol!

Posted by zenggi 04/22/2010 at 01:37 AM

Morning, AM.

I haven't had time to read Steve's posts. I'm going there...

I'm going to miss today JCF match against Thiemo. No doubt Ferrero will win but I hope Thiemo don't get nervous and loses 1 en 0.

Posted by rg.nadal 04/22/2010 at 01:39 AM

AM: Yeah. Baby steps for Ancic!

vee not playing Fed Cup and the US team has it's task cut out. The Russians are gonna take the tie easily!

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 01:43 AM

zengii Go there and come back if it has erupted into you know what I am passing lol!

Well you boy has done well so far at least his serve hasnt gone AWOL


RG Nadal Yeah it will be a huge effort from the USA though stranger things have happened in Fed Cup.They won their tie last time without the Williams sisters.

Posted by zenggi 04/22/2010 at 01:45 AM

AM,
Besides the sports and political pundits, the Madrileños are quite content that there aren't Olympics Games to be hold in their city. The Caja Mágica will not be used for Olympic tennis :)

I have to prepare for work so I'll follow your advice and don't read that blog.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 01:50 AM

Zengii Yeah who would really want to play in that Magic Tin Box for starters lol!

Chicken for not reading Steves blog first.

Posted by rg.nadal 04/22/2010 at 01:51 AM

zenggi: Hola there. Hope the Volcano ash aint causing much trouble in ur land.

AM: Yeah. That is there. Oudin can win both her singles! May be Davenport should have made a special comeback for this! She could have easily thrashed the Russians on the Birmingham hard-courts!

Posted by zenggi 04/22/2010 at 01:57 AM

Hola, rg.
Flights schedule is resumed in Europe again. Let's hope the Iceland volcanoes go back to sleep for a few hundred years.

AM,
I'll remember that!.

Bye

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 01:58 AM

RG Why not its the year to make comebacks in the WTA

Extra brownie points if you happened to be a mother too lol!

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 01:59 AM

Bye Zengii

Posted by rg.nadal 04/22/2010 at 02:09 AM

AM: I like Davenport. More so in her second stint.

zenggi: Bye...

Posted by manuelsantanafan 04/22/2010 at 02:14 AM

Setting the record straight concerning concerning that piece of garbage Samaranch and the rampant corruption that characterized him and the IOC (International Olympic Committee) during his presidency of the IOC is not difficult at all.

Why do you think that when one Googles "Samaranch and corruption" one gets over 51,000 results?

Why do you think that when one Googles "IOC and corruption" one gets "around" 190,000 results?

And what do these results reveal?

For starters, that Samaranch was a piece of garbage of the most execrable variety.

The kind of poltroon that would proudly present top Olympic awards to Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceaucescu and East Germany's Erich Honecker.

The disgrace to humanity who in the 1970s was still participating in Falangist ceremonies and proudly executing the Falangist salute:

http://www.boston.com/sports/columnists/pierce/2010/04/juan_antonio_samaranch.html

http://www.democracyanddignityinsport.cat/

The record on the miserable nature of Samaranch's existence is very clear.
_________________

By the way, I do apologize to all members of all species of toads. Associating toads with that piece of garbage Samaranch was extremely unfair to some of best amphibians around.

Posted by rg.nadal 04/22/2010 at 02:16 AM

zenggi: We have now have a movie on that Volcano with an unpronounceable name! A love story between a Swedish tennis player who is stuck in an airport after winning a title in Barcelona and a young Danish girl who gives him a lift!

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 02:25 AM

Hell the Rugby League team I support here in Oz has been caught with running two sets of books over a period of years.All their priemerships have been taken away from them and all their points so far this season as well.Also they cant obtain any more points this season at all and will collect the Wooden Spoon.My brother has died and gone to wherever over this I might join him.Cheats.I feel sorry for the players who had no idea this was happening.

End Of Rant!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by NP 04/22/2010 at 02:27 AM

MSF, I wouldn't put it in such strong terms, but I hear ya. All this slobbering is pretty pathetic.

Posted by random roger 04/22/2010 at 02:33 AM

2001 Rome

vs. Marat Safin

Q. Do you think he is a very unpredictable player? Not only as a tennis player, but as a person, it looks like he's up and down.

ROGER FEDERER: Of course, you never know what's going to come next. I think we are very similar. So we get cross on the court if we're not happy with our games. We are disappointed when it's not going well; we are happy when it works well. I think we can both hit shots, like, you don't expect. So I think we have something similar. Of course Marat is, ranking-wise and result-wise, in a different league, but I hope I can catch up with him.

http://i43.tinypic.com/qzpyd5.jpg

Posted by manuelsantanafan 04/22/2010 at 02:35 AM

NP:

I admit I was extremely misguided to disparage toads by associating them with Samaranch.

But, I did apologize to toads in the collective at the end of my 2:14 diatribe.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 02:37 AM

Manuel I think your being a bit harsh.

Though at the moment I am in Total Shock

I cant stand Cheats!!

Posted by Angel of the Surf (The Youz for the top 10) 04/22/2010 at 02:37 AM

AM - the president should stand down.

I remembered when Carlton ran into trouble by not declaring how much they were paying players, it crippled the team for five years (no draft picks for about 3 years, they had to pay back the money) and we are now just starting to recover financially. The president was sacked though he did get a stand named after him at their home ground.

I was gutted.

Posted by Angel of the Surf (The Youz for the top 10) 04/22/2010 at 02:40 AM

AM I don't know if they shoud have their premierships taken away, that is a bit harsh.

Posted by rg.nadal 04/22/2010 at 02:43 AM

Murray related:
http://tiny.cc/u8y0k

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 02:46 AM

AA The Storm is owned by News Limited.The top people have been stood down ASAP.Apparently some of the top players were also aware of what was going on and were getting extra payments.The whole thing Stinks.

Posted by NP 04/22/2010 at 02:54 AM

MSF, I had recently started posting here regularly in the summer of '08, and I still remember having this interesting "discussion" shortly before the Beijing Olympics. As you can imagine, a few incredibly naive posters were arguing that sports and politics should be separated and ergo that the protestors should follow suit and refrain from needless diminishment of the Olympic spirit.

Of course, this is nonsense of the highest order. I hope that Samaranch's death and a few honest reflections will show these people how wrong they were/are. No institution who supposedly seeks to promote these universal values would've given hosting rights to a nation that still refused her citizens the very basic rights of free speech. And no such institution would've kept a bigwig with Samaranch's history as their honorary president.

Enjoy the show when it takes place every 4 years, but don't be fooled by the facade of universal brotherhood. The Olympics have always been a political institution 1st and a sporting event 2nd.

Posted by Angel of the Surf (The Youz for the top 10) 04/22/2010 at 02:54 AM

AM I am glad that action was taken against the top guys. But at least in Rugby League they don't have the draft system in place like in AFL.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 02:57 AM

AA Yeah.I am sticking with the Swans from now on.Its just greed.I always kind of wondered how they kept their top players all the time under the salary scheme.Well know I know.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 03:00 AM

RG Thanks for that link regarding Murray.I think everyone will be watching Rome to see how he goes.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/22/2010 at 03:02 AM

Morning, everyone. :)

zenggi - I liked Steve's posts. :)

Posted by NP 04/22/2010 at 03:02 AM

I forgot the part about Tibet, but you get the drift.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/22/2010 at 03:05 AM

I did think all the stuff I heard on the radio about Samaranch yesterday was a bit white-washy. A brief mention of Salt Lake City was about it. (To be fair it was only in short bulletins.)

Posted by rg.nadal 04/22/2010 at 03:05 AM

AM: Welcome. Hope the Scot rises! Last year by this time he won two titles. But this year he has won none, but reached a slam final...

Posted by NP 04/22/2010 at 03:06 AM

"I did think all the stuff I heard on the radio about Samaranch yesterday was a bit white-washy."

So you do have some morals after all.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 03:14 AM

I really dont like when someone dies people come out with all the "so called dirty laundry" Olympics and Politics never go together.Whats new.

Posted by imjimmy 04/22/2010 at 03:15 AM

NP: Sorry about missing your post yesterday, I sorta slept on my chair.
To answer your question, yes I was watching the Rome 2006 Final, which I thought was a very high quality match almost as good as the Nadal-Coria in 2005.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/22/2010 at 03:16 AM

I don't feel terribly optimistic about a Murray resurgence until after Wimbledon, to be honest.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 03:16 AM

NP We are know Jewell Has No Taste And No Morals.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/22/2010 at 03:20 AM

That's the thing, isn't it? - when someone dies, which is a sad event regardless, there's a feeling about not being disrespectful or speaking ill of the dead.

But personally I think it is not honest to sum up someone's career without a fair consideration of the good and the bad in that career. From another perspective, I guess that's bringing out dirty laundry.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 03:20 AM

Anyway he gave us Sidiney Olympics which were amazing.Pity he couldnt pronnounce Sydney properly but there you go.

Posted by NP 04/22/2010 at 03:20 AM

imjimmy, no biggie. I was just interested in whether the match was still on TC.

AM, that goes without saying.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 03:23 AM

Look I am just in a foul mood at the moment.

Posted by rg.nadal 04/22/2010 at 03:24 AM

jewell: I am still in Camp Murray. I somehow think that this MC defeat acted like a mirror to show where exactly his claycourt game stood. It motivated him to work better and look where his clay-court game exactly is! Now if he has some decent matches at Rome and Madrid he should be ready for RG. As long as he does not face the likes of Belucci in the early rounds he should do fine. At RG I would rate his chances better than the likes of Robredo (also because he is injured now), Almagro, Guilermo Garcia Lopez etc.

Posted by imjimmy 04/22/2010 at 03:25 AM

NP: The Rome 06 F is available on the web to download in good quality. Are you interested? If so I can post the link..

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 03:25 AM

Anyway I have the Lakers match to look forward to

It is on tomorrow isnt NP

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/22/2010 at 03:25 AM

*sends special magic cheer-up tea to AM, plus half of remaining Easter egg*

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 03:27 AM

Poor Tommy and his back.What a time to get injured.pfft.

imjimmy Sorry I cant see Murray doing much maybe Wimby might wake him up.His game was terrible and pathetic.To have fans boo you off at the end of a match.As a professional player that is the Pits.

Posted by NP 04/22/2010 at 03:28 AM

imjimmy, I think I can find a link me-self, but sure, why not. Let's see what you have.

AM, it is, @ 9:30 PM TW time. I've got a feeling that Kobe will be feeling generous tomorrow nite.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 03:29 AM

Jewell Thanks.Can I have alchol instead of the tea pls? though I will have the chocolate

oops that post was meant for RG not imjimmy

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/22/2010 at 03:29 AM

Oh, I'm not out of Camp Murray. I just think the US HCs might be where he finds his feet again. Queens & Wimbledon are going to be horribly pressured and I think there are just too many solidly good players on clay for Murray's form at the moment. :)

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 03:30 AM

NP Does that mean he wont be playing much?

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/22/2010 at 03:31 AM

*pours shot of whisky into tea* (Isle of Skye blend, it's very good in tea)

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 03:31 AM

Jewell I would love for Murray to win Wimby.That would be the icing on the cake for me.

Posted by NP 04/22/2010 at 03:32 AM

AM, either that or his shooting % will be subpar. There are many ways he can extend his generosity.

Posted by imjimmy 04/22/2010 at 03:32 AM

There ya go:
http://www.tennis4you.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=9f4c4d5d6c493af8f27ff4c830f25669&topic=9175.msg187249#msg187249

The good thing about this is that you can download individual sets as opposed to having to download the whole thing in one shot (pun unintended).

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 03:33 AM

Jewell Yummy.Thanks.

Posted by imjimmy 04/22/2010 at 03:34 AM

""Jewell I would love for Murray to win Wimby. ""

Ain't happening AM. Federer is almost a lock to reach the final, I would bet my house on it. I've never seen the Swiss play a bad grass court match, EVER.

And of course we know what happens when Murray and Fed meet in a slam final. Muzz will need to wait till UsO, I'm afraid..

Posted by NP 04/22/2010 at 03:37 AM

imjimmy, thx. I've seen the whole match, but it's good to have these classics on file.

That said, nothing beats a Sampras masterclass. :)

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 03:38 AM

imjimmy I know I was day dreaming lol!

Posted by rg.nadal 04/22/2010 at 03:39 AM

AM: hehe..Got that.

jewell: You have something there. The best way would be if he fares just ok in the warm-up events and then arrives at a slam not as a favourite or a joint favourite. He can then sneak in like a burglar entering through the window and grab the slam. Ideally for him, would be great if the opponent in the final would be someone like Wawrinka!

Posted by imjimmy 04/22/2010 at 03:40 AM

""That said, nothing beats a Sampras masterclass. :) ""

Ain't that the truth :)

I have a bunch of those recorded on tape (imagine that!). I'm trying to download whatever I can in digital format so that it can grow old with me..

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/22/2010 at 03:41 AM

Thanks for that link, imjimmy! I will try it later. :)

also: dreams can come true. It could happen!

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 03:45 AM

Well who would have thought at the end of 08 when Rafa missed the YEC he would go to the AO 09 and win his 1st HC GS title hey?

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/22/2010 at 03:47 AM

Late for work, see you all later. :)

Posted by manuelsantanafan 04/22/2010 at 03:48 AM

"Bringing out the dirty laundry"?

The "dirty laundry" was strewn in huge piles all over the the floors of several rooms.

Took quite an effort not tripping over these piles.

Bad enough that that hypocritical piece of garbage was allowed to be further soil the Olympic movement, which allegedly promotes the highest ideals.

But, then to be pounded over the head with misrepresentations that a moldering lump of crap was actually an admirable creature is more annoyance than I care to take in silence.

Now, I don't want to cast aspersions on ALL pieces of crap by associating them with Samaranch.

Horse manure, for example, can be extremely useful in gardening.

Samaranch, however, was in the class of crap that inconsiderate dog owners often leave on sidewalks.

Posted by NP 04/22/2010 at 03:49 AM

imjimmy, let me know when you have/find vids of Pistol Pete's destruction of Santoro and Clavet at the '97 FO. And I'm not exaggerating when I say destruction. Pete just blew them away in straight sets playing some of his best tennis I've seen on any surface. That's how he should've been playing at RG from the very beginning. I think he finally got the message that he couldn't grind out from the baseline for 2 weeks. But then... he got a stomach bug and came out flat in 3R against Norman, who, while a FO finalist the next yr, Pete won their next 2 matches against on clay.

It was a curse, I tell ya. A curse!

Posted by NP 04/22/2010 at 03:51 AM

I meant to say a future FO finalist. Norman reached the FO final in '00.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 03:53 AM

Manuel Ok I get your personal point.

Bye Jewell

NP It was a Total Conspiracy that Pete didnt win RG.

Posted by Angel of the Surf (The Youz for the top 10) 04/22/2010 at 03:54 AM

Can we not talk about Wimbledon until after the trophy presentation at RG, all this talk is a bit premature.

Also I think Almagro (good or bad) would beat Murray on clay. Gosh I would like him to have a better head on his shoulders.

Posted by imjimmy 04/22/2010 at 03:55 AM

Gotcha NP. Will try to see if I find that match. I certainly don't have it. It's sad that people think that Pete had no game on dirt. He did win Rome, and in his book he mentioned that during the F.O '96 SF he felt devoid of energy and that he hadn't eaten a burger before the match :)

Pity..as in some other things, he was unlucky with injuries and the chronic TM. He could've won more slams.

Posted by NP 04/22/2010 at 03:57 AM

AM, it was. The biggest conspiracy ever.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 04/22/2010 at 04:00 AM

AA Yeah Almagro has the shots even for h.court,his head just gets in the way

Posted by imjimmy 04/22/2010 at 04:02 AM

That Rome 2006 match shows why Nadal WAS great. In fact Federer at Rome 2006, Djokovic at Hamburg 2008 and Coria at Rome 2005, in all three matches Nadal was down and hanging on by thread of a needle, yet he won in the end.

All of the 3 players played as well as they could. In 2006 Rome, clearly Fed was playing the best I've seen him on clay EVER only to be denied a 'deserving' victory by Nadal, who was still developing an all round technique. He had a limited game, but he hung on and almost willed himself to elevate his game (several times) when he was down and out. No wonder Nadal put unrecoverable dents on these fine claycourters.

Posted by imjimmy 04/22/2010 at 04:04 AM

""It was a Total Conspiracy that Pete didnt win RG.""

*Bows to AM* . Truer words have never been spoken!

On that note, time to crash. Enjoy the Tennis@Barca!

Posted by NP 04/22/2010 at 04:04 AM

imjimmy, yah. They just take a cursory look at Pete's FO resume and say he "sucked" on clay. We need to keep reminding those with a functional brain what nonsense this is.

And I'm outtie. May be back to see if Kobe is feeling generous tomorrow nite. Ciao.

Posted by Angel of the Surf (The Youz for the top 10) 04/22/2010 at 04:06 AM

His head just gets in the way, at least he is not alone in this department.

So true AM.

Posted by imjimmy 04/22/2010 at 04:07 AM

NP: Absolutely. Not to mention that Pete played in an era, where the clay was as slow as molasses, and there were a bunch of dirt-ballers , great clay courters, who would've creamed almost all the ATP pros on clay today (save perhaps the clay warrior)..

*Really off **

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