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In Charleston in Pain 04/18/2010 - 9:25 AM

Dinara

by Bobby Chintapalli, TW Contributing Editor

Remember when you didn’t need a medical degree to talk about tennis? When bandages weren’t a girl’s best friend? When tennis player Dinara Safina actually played tennis? Those were the good, old days, weren’t they? Long ago my journalism professors discouraged starting an article with a question, so I suspect they would have advised against starting with four. Yet I can’t think of starting an article on a topic chock full of questions any other way. And while we’re at it here’s another one: What on earth is going on?

Pulling Out

Certainly not tennis for players who retired from the Family Circle Cup in Charleston this week. What can I say about poor Caroline Wozniacki and that fall in her semifinal match against Vera Zvonareva yesterday that you didn’t see played and replayed on TV a million times? Ouch!

Olga Govortsova retired with a left knee injury and Ayumi Morita and Elena Vesnina with a left adductor strain. Marion Bartoli pulled out with a condition that won’t make us pull out a medical dictionary though it might make us raise an eyebrow – dizziness. Victoria Azarenka, before she flew to Chicago then Rome and tweeted desperately to everyone for a flight to anywhere, pulled out of Charleston with a left hamstring injury she got in Marbella.

Other players also not playing much tennis include those who withdrew before the tournament even began:

- Sybille Bammer (Achilles injury)
- Kateryna Bondarenko (Left knee injury)
- Dominika Cibulkova (Right hip strain)
- Casey Dellacqua (Right foot injury)
- Alisa Kleybanova (Plantar fasciitis)
- Viktoriya Kutuzova (Back injury)
- Sabine Lisicki (Left ankle injury)
- Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova (Foot injury)
- Maria Sharapova (Right elbow injury)
- Serena Williams (Left knee injury)

And the tennis players who are “lucky” enough to play tennis, aren’t lucky enough to do so without bandages. Watching matches at the event for four days I saw only two or three players who weren’t wearing bandages at some point. They could be to aid recovery, prevent injury or just provide “support” – the point is, these days they’re always there. Singles finalist Vera Zvonareva still wears an ankle brace a year after injuring her right ankle in a horrible fall at this tournament last year (though she said yesterday she feels like she’s finally fully recovered); she eventually ended up getting surgery and tumbling out of the Top 20. And the other finalist, Sam Stosur, casually mentioned that she sprained her ankle last week.

Figuring It Out

So what is going on? Well, a few veteran players have some ideas.

Patty Schnyder, who turned pro 16 years ago, pointed to the greater depth of the game: “[The] competition is really tough. The top level maybe it’s the same, but it’s like the density between 10 and 40, 50 that’s really improved a lot in the women’s game. So you don’t get many free rounds and easy rounds to warm up. You really have to be sharp… in the very first match… that takes a lot of energy.”

Nadia Petrova, who turned pro 11 years ago, cited the increase in power and the number of tournaments played: “First of all, the level of game is getting higher. It’s getting more powerful, and you really have to push yourself further in the matches, and that creates some kind of injuries. But then a lot of girls are playing way too many tournaments and they just don’t have enough time to get the body some rest and work on some fitness so they stay stronger.”

Vera Zvonareva, who turned pro 10 years ago, thought scheduling was part of the problem: “The schedule is very tough for players. Right now it’s pretty much the same schedule for everybody, but everyone is different. Everybody has different level of fitness, different bodies, different results, different amount of matches that they played in the previous weeks. So it is very difficult to manage and schedule it. And sometimes you’re forced to play a lot of events when you’re tired, and that’s most of the times when injuries are coming, when your body is not fresh.”

Another possibility may be the length of the off season. Tennis’s off season seems rather short compared to other sports. Surely there are other factors too.

But if something doesn’t change, that can’t be good for these young, young players, fans or the game both love.


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Posted by RogerFebeRRRergetsmewet 04/21/2010 at 01:05 AM

Federbear up 4-2 in the tiebreaker.

A forehand from an Angel.

Now you have him, Rogie.

Apply the coup de grace.

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 04/21/2010 at 01:05 AM

So this is where people are posting?

imjimmy, you watching rome 06? me too. they're in the tb. these old matches of rafa's that TTC has been showing are so incredible. I was out all day so I don't know anything about rafa's presser. Can you fill me in?

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 01:10 AM

AM, Jack never misses a home Lakers game, in case you didn't know already.

Posted by RogerFebeRRRergetsmewet 04/21/2010 at 01:10 AM

Rogie, you're up 5-3.

Now you have him.

Uh, oh. 5-4

Was that a shankie wankie?

5-5.

5-6

Rogie, you're cutting this too close.

But, you have the serve.

Why did you let him have the point.

Did you lose count?

Oh, no, no, no.

I feel like I've just passed a two-pound kidney stone.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 01:16 AM

Talk about getting excited about a match that was years ago.Rafa won anyway.Oh well put yourself through misery if you will lol!

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 01:18 AM

Kobe, you rock.

But the game's not over. Defense, defense, defense. And get some more baskets.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 01:18 AM

Wow Kobe!!!

Way To Go

I like his smirk he gets on his face.

NP Jack wasnt wearing his sunglasses strange.

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 01:22 AM

AM, Jack prolly just took 'em off for a while. He always has his sunglasses on.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 01:24 AM

Pau has a finger taped too

Posted by Peg 04/21/2010 at 01:25 AM

AM, if I followed the OOP right, Tommy/Granollers were replaced at the last minute by Greul/Luczak, who promptly proceeded to lose to Zeballos/Bellucci. (Which, on a purely shallow note, means the prettier team won. Speaking of which, I should go see look up where Deliciano and Fer are listed...)

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/21/2010 at 01:29 AM

*waves hello*

Rafa's press conference comments are reassuring. :)

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 01:29 AM

Peg Thanks for that info.I would have been surprised if Tommy had played that dubs match with a back injury.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 01:30 AM

Jewell Hi, yes Rafa said virtually what he stated on his website.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 01:31 AM

Come on Pau sink those baskets

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 01:32 AM

Allez Pau

Lakers win 95-92

Yay!!!!!!!

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 01:37 AM

OK, so 2 down, 2 more to go. Kobe's form in the 2nd half is encouraging. I'll hold off declaring he's back, though, until he can improve his shooting %.

Anyhoo a good win. And Durant is for real. He should be able to win a championship or two with better teammates. Hopefully not yet.

Posted by random roger 04/21/2010 at 01:43 AM

2005 Monte-Carlo

Q. You did a very gentlemanly thing. You played a let on matchpoint.

ROGER FEDERER: Matchpoint?

Q. Yeah, at 6-5, advantage to you.

ROGER FEDERER: I think that was Love-15 maybe. 30-All. That would have been for matchpoint. I don't remember. But it was clearly in. It was not even a moment of doubt to actually walk up to the line, because I heard it hit the line (smiling). I don't know. On clay it's easy to give each other points. If you can call it fair play, I don't know, because the umpire will come down anyway so...

http://i44.tinypic.com/30mbx9f.jpg

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/21/2010 at 01:46 AM

yeah, AM. Still nice to hear it. :)

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 04/21/2010 at 01:51 AM

jewell: is the presser posted anywhere? of course it's in spanish so I won't know what he said.

Posted by Coby 04/21/2010 at 01:52 AM

Mary Joe Fernandez' blog says that Elena Dementieva and Ekaterina Makarova stopped by after their practice to help out with the kids clinic today. Nice!

Elena said she thinks the rest of the Russian team will make it to Birmingham tomorrow, but not positive.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 01:52 AM

Jewell LOL!

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 01:54 AM

Coby Do you think they will make allowences due to this ash?

I have friends trying to get to Rome to get a flight out.They have been on the road from England for 15 hours lol!

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/21/2010 at 01:55 AM

There's a report here, Annie:

http://www.nadalnews.com/2010/04/20/barcelona-withdrawal-presser/comment-page-1/#comment-33661

Don't know if it's the whole thing. Nice pictures, too. :)

Posted by zenggi 04/21/2010 at 01:57 AM

Good morning,

Kobe scored only 39 points.He should retire now.

Wimbledon increases the prize for the winners to 1 million pounds. That's 17,6% more than last year.

Posted by Angel of the Surf (The Youz for the top 10) 04/21/2010 at 01:57 AM

The original pretty team are not playing dubs this week.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/21/2010 at 01:57 AM

Airspace seems to be open now over the UK, anyway - going to be a big backlog, though. :)

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 04/21/2010 at 01:57 AM

thanks jewell. nadal news is a good source. so i'm sure it's all here. thanks again.

Posted by Coby 04/21/2010 at 01:59 AM

AM, I think the ITF has stated that they will allow delays if it is necessary. But may not be necessary since a lot more flights in the air today. Bepa flew from New York to Moscow today, so hopefully there will be no problems.

Hope you friends make out alright!

Posted by zenggi 04/21/2010 at 01:59 AM

Hi, jewell,

We started flying yesterday and what happened is that the morning flights were empty. Crazy!

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 02:00 AM

"Kobe scored only 39 points.He should retire now."

Kobe was just being generous to the other team, as usual.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:00 AM

Good Morning Zengii

Yes I wish my game was better on the grass.I could have entered the seniors section or something.

Just visited our news here.Qantas flights will leave later today

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:01 AM

Coby Thanks for that news.

Posted by Coby 04/21/2010 at 02:02 AM

Oops, you = your

Posted by zenggi 04/21/2010 at 02:03 AM

NP,
Kobe should retire. The 81 score was an "accident" and it will never happen again.

And I don't know why AM called him a saint. Care to explain, AM?

Today Chardy-Gulbis in Barcelona. I'll try to watch it.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:03 AM

Kobe sat out.Giving other players chances to score goals

Such a generous soul.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/21/2010 at 02:03 AM

Hiya zenggi. :) We have a lot of electioneering going on over the whole thing, too.

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 02:04 AM

zenggi, AM disagrees. You lose.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:05 AM

zengii He actually acknlowedged a opposing player a good shot?

Of course the man is deemed for Saint Hood..

Posted by zenggi 04/21/2010 at 02:08 AM

Hi, jewell

Electionering over flying?. I think most people chose to get a refund and of course the people most affected by the whole issue where people going away in the weekend for holidays. People who fly for business had already cancel their appointments and they will probably resume them somewhere this week. I could have changed my ticket during the week but I have a full agenda and it wasn't possible. I'm going first to the UK in May and at the end of May to Spain.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:10 AM

Well Qantas here arent taking any bookings until mid May

I bet the a/fares will go up after this disaster

Lucky my cousin has already booker her ticket to Paris she leaves in a couple of weeks

Posted by Angel of the Surf (The Youz for the top 10) 04/21/2010 at 02:12 AM

Chardy and Gulbis, I might even try to watch that match as well.

Posted by zenggi 04/21/2010 at 02:12 AM

AM,

You traitor. Now you are going to let everybody rest and regroup. Too much Freudian projection for my taste.

And beware what you do by chosing NP over me. I run last night to console you about Tommy, remember?

NP,
When do the Lakers play again?. How did Pau play?

Posted by zenggi 04/21/2010 at 02:14 AM

AM,

What Kobe did (acknowledging a good shot from another player) is nothing special. Robin Soderling does it as well. Do you care then? :)

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:14 AM

zengii Today is a new day.I am still in hurt mode.Remember I hold grudges

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/21/2010 at 02:15 AM

Yes - Conservatives demanding a public inquiry over the closing of airspace, and how long it took to reopen and why it so suddenly did, and the Liberal Democrats mumbling a polite request for some kind of inquiry, if Labour wouldn't mind...LOL. It all reads like point-scoring during campaign time to me.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:16 AM

Please comparing Kobe to Robin

Sorry no contest.

Poor Kobe is a marked man the minute he takes to the court

Its a wonder he cant still walk today.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:17 AM

oops should read Its a wonder he can still walk today

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 02:17 AM

zenggi, the next Lakers-Thunder game is on Thursday, 9:30 PM EST. Pau played well as usual, 25 pts and 12 rebounds. He's been very consistent for the last few weeks. I don't think the same can be said of any other Laker.

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 02:18 AM

AM, you speak the truth and nothing but the truth.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:18 AM

Yes Pau and Rafa are great friends as well

Posted by zenggi 04/21/2010 at 02:20 AM

"Poor Kobe is a marked man the minute he takes to the court"

And Robin isn't?. I'm dissapointed and at the same time laughing.

Jewell,
I think everybody is trying now to name a "guilty" party to cover for the millions and millions of loses. Here they blame the EU and their obsolete rules. More money down the drain and more useless burocrats who will lose more money trying to clean up their work.
At the end the EU-countries will have to pay to the airlines. Mark my words.

Posted by zenggi 04/21/2010 at 02:22 AM

This alliance is disturbing and frail, AM. Take care.

Posted by zenggi 04/21/2010 at 02:23 AM

NP,
I'm counting on you to tell me about the next Lakers match. Too late (or early) for me.
The Spanish press is also very happy with Pau's performances. Isn't he injured anymore?

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:24 AM

I also loved the fact Kobes dad turned up to his game.He gave his son a big hug.

Well I suppose Robin is marked it depends on who he is playing lol!

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:26 AM

Hell I said Allez Pau should have been a Vamos like der to me

Sorry Pau.

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 02:26 AM

LOL, these guys are a riot. Inside the NBA has gotta be one of the best shows on TV, late-nite or not.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/21/2010 at 02:28 AM

I'm surprised there isn't more EU blaming here, zenggi, usually any kind of health/safety rule that "common-sense Britishness" does not approve of is the EU's fault. ;-) Perhaps it is there and I just haven't seen it.

Roddick had some nice things to say about Rafa's backhand yesterday:

"AR: Rafa’s got a great backhand. And no one talks about it because everyone one likes talking about the pretty one-handers. The shot that looks great is a shotmaking shot because you see it on a highlight reel and it looks great. Rafa’s is solid. Every single one is heavy. His ability to mix up the height on it, the way he passes off of it. He has a great backhand."

http://www.insidetennis.com/2010/04/andy-roddick/

Also compliments Murray's and Roger's. I do like reading how the players see things, even if they are not necessarily right.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:30 AM

Jewell When did Roddick say Rafa had a good b/hand

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 02:32 AM

zenggi, it's been a while since Pau came back. I don't think he's injured anymore, unless there's another injury I'm not aware of.

The next 3 Lakers games will be played in the Thunder arena, so the Kobies have a tough road ahead.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/21/2010 at 02:33 AM

I liked his praise for Ferru too.

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 02:37 AM

AM, this is the 1st time I've seen Kobe's dad attend his son's game. They used to be estranged for a couple years. "Reportedly Bryant's parents had problems with him marrying so young, especially to a woman who was not African-American" (quote from Wiki). But they're reconciled now. Good for them.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:40 AM

NP I had a g/friend that married a african-american both set of parents were against the marriage from the start.So sad.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/21/2010 at 02:40 AM

Think the interview came out on Monday but I don't know when it was made.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:45 AM

Thanks Jewell it might of been a recent thought from Roddick seeing they played one another recently.

Posted by Angel of the Surf (The Youz for the top 10) 04/21/2010 at 02:45 AM

The only difference AM is that Kobe doesn't have a voodoo doll you can stick pins into :)

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:48 AM

AA Touche! lol!

Kobe is a sweet guy.I love the smirk he has on his face.

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 02:48 AM

AM, yeah. I used to think the opposition has to do with race, but then I realized most of it is a generation thing.

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 02:49 AM

AA, is this GF of AM's some1 you know?

Posted by Suze 04/21/2010 at 02:52 AM

i just found this

nadal poised to take over no. 1 (the math is just getting too confusing...).

http://www.espn.co.uk/tennis/sport/story/18354.html

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I don't know who this guy is but I don't think he knows what he is talking about. I'm not an expert on the ATP point system but from what I understand, Nadal can only gain 2220 points when he wins Rome, Madrid and Roland Garros. While he wins a total of 4000 points, he is defending 1780 points (Rome-1000, Madrid-600 & RG-180) so he can only gain 2220 by the end of the clay court season. As per ATP ranking, his points is 6980. He loses 500 for Barcelona so by the end of this week , his total is 6480. Add up 2220 and he gets a total of 8700. Let's look at Federer's - given his scenario for Federer making the semi-finals, Federer has a total of 3360 points to defend for the remaining clay court season. While he wins a total of 1440 (making at least the semi finals), he also loses 1920 points and ends up with a total of 8770. A paltry 70 points but he will still be ahead of Nadal. I’m only taking into account Rome, Madrid & RG here and have not included Estoril. If I'm wrong about this, please feel free to correct me.

Posted by zenggi 04/21/2010 at 02:53 AM

Have to hurry. We'll keep discussing Lakers and tennis later, if you don't mind.

What an idiocy of parents who doesn't aproved of their children's partner. Everybody has the right to make his/her own mistakes. Nothing to do with skin color.

AM,
Kobe is a saint. Kobe is a sweet guy. What else do you have to say about him? :)

Sweet dreams, NP. Bye

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:54 AM

Gosh taking over the no 1 position is far from Rafa's mind and his fans.I just want him to be able to play the rest of the year with no more time outs.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:55 AM

Bye Zengii lol!

Posted by Angel of the Surf (The Youz for the top 10) 04/21/2010 at 02:55 AM

OT - AM yesterday I was quoting the worse line of a movie I saw an ad for. Well I went over to my friend's place last night for a couple of drinks and started telling her and she stopped me and proceeded to tell the whole storyline, I laughed so hard I spilt my drink. I just knew she would know the storyline.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 02:56 AM

AA LOL!

Posted by Angel of the Surf (The Youz for the top 10) 04/21/2010 at 02:58 AM

AM I know some Rafa fans want everything including the No. 1 ranking.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 03:00 AM

AA Not this fan.I have watched him for too long.I just want him healthy.

Posted by Angel of the Surf (The Youz for the top 10) 04/21/2010 at 03:01 AM

AM I use to want my favs to have it all, but like you I just want healthy players across the board.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/21/2010 at 03:03 AM

If Rafa's healthy and winning tournaments, he'll be up there in the rankings. I'd like him to stay in the top four but beyond that I am not fussed, and I certainly don't want him to bust himself trying to get to and hold the #1.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 03:08 AM

AA Yes I too want players to be healthy.So it gives a more even playing field.I feel soo bad for Mario Ancic whose career has been on hold from CFS.Other injuires you can hopefully get over.With CFS it can come back at any time and just floor you.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 03:10 AM

Has anyone get any news on Mario.He played that tournament since then I have heard nothing

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 03:12 AM

Well, marrying at a young age is something I think parents have a good reason to disapprove of.

As for skin color, I remember having this conversation with a Jewish friend of mine. I said to him that it might be a tad racist for parents to object to their child marrying someone of a different ethnicity than theirs. And his response was that these parents know what kinds of discrimination a person of mixed ethnicity might have to endure, so their objection isn't based on what I think it is. That made sense to me.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 03:15 AM

NP I think a lot of that has disappeared or I hope it has.People can always be great in hindsight though I still that is the older generation talking.Even Catholics have changed their views of mixed marriages.Peter isnt a Catholic and I didnt take that into consideration at all.

Posted by Suze 04/21/2010 at 03:17 AM

Gosh taking over the no 1 position is far from Rafa's mind and his fans.I just want him to be able to play the rest of the year with no more time outs
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AM, I don't care much about the number 1 ranking. I care more about the accuracy of what these people say. He's writing for ESPN, he should at least get his facts straight. Hence my post. I hate sloppy writing. If he doesn't understand this thing, then he has no right writing about it. I actually agree with his predictions for Nadal & Federer. In fact, he has Federer at least make it to the semifinals. Given the last two tournaments that Federer played, I don't feel positive at all. And I am very much a Federer fan.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 03:22 AM

Suze I havent read that article fully so I cant really comment.

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 03:27 AM

AM, yeah. What we should keep in mind is that people with a traditional background are generally wary of mixed marriages involving their own children. It's how they've been wired. But it's not that they're prejudiced against people of different skin colors. The "we" get along with the "them" just fine in real life, and the former would have no reservations, say, hiring the latter as employees. We should be careful not to characterize their reservations re mixed marriages as something more base or sinister.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 03:32 AM

NP Peter comes to midnight mass with me usually at Christmas if he isnt working.I love it when he says quite meanfully I must check to see if I have enough money for the plate lol!

Posted by Suze 04/21/2010 at 03:34 AM

LOL, AM, you don't need to. I even don't know why the number 1 ranking is suddenly being discussed after my original post.

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 03:35 AM

LOL, AM. I can def imagine Peter saying that.

And I'm outtie. Ciao.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 03:37 AM

Suze Well its better than talking about knees,goats etc lol!


Bye NP

Posted by zenggi 04/21/2010 at 03:42 AM

Arrived at the office.

Samaranch is in critical condition. Heart failure last Sunday.
Barcelona lost yesterday. Mr. X will be happy, I guess.

NP,
I understand what you are saying but even if parents know better (life experience), they shouldn't interfere. In Holland mixed (by religion) marriages are rare. We have a few million immigrants who are islamic and they don't marry with Dutch people. The parents bring a bride of groom from Turkey or Morocco for their children. I have a colleague who has been married like that. She seems quite content though it may surprise us that she accepted her parents' choice.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 04/21/2010 at 03:44 AM

I think every situation like that is a little different...not sure how easy it is to generalise.

Work time, later, all. :)

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 03:45 AM

zengii I just heard that on our news.He is not expected to make it apparently

Gee it dosent take you long to get to your office by the way

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 03:46 AM

bye Jewell

Posted by rg.nadal 04/21/2010 at 03:47 AM

Hello all!

What's cooking on this page?

Posted by rg.nadal 04/21/2010 at 03:52 AM

You guys read this ARod interview?:
http://tiny.cc/fr07j

Posted by zenggi 04/21/2010 at 03:55 AM

AM,
Fast car! And children are already at school so I don't have to pray that I will have a heart attack with all those bicycles.

I'm trying to find pictures of Soderling and Verdasco playing tennis on the roof of Hotel W in Barcelona. I saw them yesterday but they are gone. Conspiracy, I tell you.

Posted by NP 04/21/2010 at 03:56 AM

Can't say I agree, zenggi. I'd certainly expect parents to interfere if their kid planned to marry a drug addict with an extensive rap sheet. (Extreme example, I know, but you get my point.) I guess this is best settled by the parents and the child(ren) themselves, not us outsiders.

Really off.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Rafa Just Do It 04/21/2010 at 03:56 AM

RG Nadal Hola,yes Jewell posted that interview with Andy before.

Posted by susan 04/21/2010 at 04:06 AM

goodness, i posted the espn article about nadal and the ranking a few hours ago, if i recall.

thought it was interesting. just one guy's take. am at work and just dipped in quickly...

Posted by rg.nadal 04/21/2010 at 04:06 AM

AM: ok.

So Vee has made a decision whether to place Fed Cup or not?

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