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Testing the Bounce 06/15/2010 - 5:04 PM

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by Pete Bodo

This afternoon, I attended a luncheon given by at the New York headquarters of the international Paul/Weiss law firm, where John P. McEnroe was a partner for over 25 years and today is "of counsel" (I think that means he's retired). The firm hosted a reading and book signing session by Patrick McEnroe, from his newly published book, Hardcourt Confidential: Tales from Twenty Years in the Pro Tennis Trenches. As many of you know, I was Patrick's co-author.

Over the coming days, I'll be cherry-picking portions of the book because of their relevance to Wimbledon - about which Pat has quite a bit to say. Yesterday, Pat taped a segment for the Charlie Rose show, and next Tuesday he's going to be on the Imus show; they're just part of his extensive promotional tour. Many people don't know it, but Patrick worked as a sportscaster for Imus years ago, when he was fresh off the tour. He ended up quitting - on air. He just took off the headphones and up and walked out. I understand Imus, who's not exactly known for his sensitivity, is miffed that in his book, Pat called Imus's wife a "pain in the *ss." So we could have some fireworks in store. Pat will be doing that show from Wimbledon, as he leaves for London on Friday.

Here's a snippet from Pat's chapter on Wimbledon:

Cover.HardcourtConfidential On the first day of Wimbledon, I always make it a point to get out hours ahead of our broadcast time, just to stroll around, breathe in the atmosphere, and check the lay of the land. 

I get there before the nets are up. The lime-green courts look pristine, especially against those green-black backstops and dark, empty seats. No matter how often I’ve done it, I always feel a little bit like I did on my first trip to Yankee stadium – and never moreso than when I walk through that dark little tunnel leading out to Centre Court, toward that gorgeous turf, tennis’s most significant quarter-acre, bathed in the growing sunlight.

Those first mornings I go up to the roof of the broadcast center where I do a lot of my work. The BC is a huge brick building on the perimeter of the club, overlooking Court 18 and other field courts stretching away toward the No. 1 Court stadium. I watch the grounds crew as they fiddle with the  various courtside fixtures, the netposts, umpire's chair, and fences and chalk lines.

But mainly, I’m waiting for the guys with the big stick. The one I call the Wimbledon pole.

When they arrive, the men set up the eight or ten foot-tall pole with a tennis ball balanced on top. One of them operates a little triggering mechanism, and the ball drops to the turf. Then they measure the height of the bounce. It’s pretty comical – just another Rube Goldberg feature of Wimbledon. Before the main scoreboard went electronic (and that wasn’t so long ago), they actually had a person running around like a mouse on a narrow passageway inside the scoreboard itself, manually (and frantically, over the first few days) flipping wooden numbers to update the scores for the spectators looking up from the walkway below. 

During my playing career, I had a little ritual; I liked to bounce the ball three times before my first serve, and two times before my second. At Wimbledon, I wouldn’t bounce it as much as have to throw it at the ground, just to make it rebound high enough off the spongy surface to reach my hand. In fact, on at least one occasion I decided not to bounce the ball anymore at all. It was a frustrating waste of energy.

These days, though, when the bounce-testers drop the ball off the big stick, it bounces about waist high, even with no force behind it. This change may have saved Wimbledon, which just about fifteen years ago stood in danger of becoming an anachronism – an arcane tennis ritual having no real relation to the contemporary game. Advances in racket technology and a generation of gifted, hard-serving attacking players led by Pete Sampras threatened to turn grass-court tennis into something like farce – a serving contest, with rallies as rare as bluebird skies over chronically drizzly London. 

Who can forget matches like the Wimbledon semifinal Stefan Edberg lost to Michael Stich in 1991? There was only one break of serve in the entire match, and it was Stich who was broken; yet he went on to win the match, 4-6,7-6,7-6,7-6. . . 

Some thought that the game on grass was passé, but apparently all those guys in the green-and-purple AEC ties never got the memo. Two of the other four majors (the Australian and US Opens) had moved to new venues in response to the increased demand for relevance (as well as seats) in the Open era. Significantly, both had abandoned the private club, and turned away from grass in favor of slower, more common and versatile hard courts. The British wouldn’t dream of leaving Wimbledon, the AEC wouldn’t think of abandoning grass, and on top of all that the players still were obliged to wear predominantly. Serves them right.

But time and again, the AEC has shown an amazing ability to respond to the challenges of the rapidly moving Open era without throwing out the baby of tradition with the bathwater. And what steps the AEC took to tweak their tournament were always examined from all points-of-view, mulled over, analyzed, and thought-out with patience that could easily be mistaken for reluctance. Decision making at Wimbledon, whether it concerned the composition of the courts, the new Millenium building, or the retractable roof, breathed new meaning into the words, due diligence. The one word you’d never, ever associate with the Lords of Wimbledon is “panic.” 

So, just as the “grass is dead” movement reached a fevered pitch, the tournament was already considering - and making - the changes that would radically transform Wimbledon’s lawns, and the way tennis is played on them. The club is pretty coy about this, having admitted publicly only to ripping out the mixed strains of grass in favor of 100 per cent perennial rye grass (a hardier, more durable grass) starting in 2001. But Wimbledon veterans, including most players, think the balls are slower as well. And many say that the courts are firmer and harder than ever before. 

Hence, the waist-high bounce off the Wimbledon pole.  

Over the coming days, we'll be looking ahead to Wimbledon. On Friday, I'll have some thoughts on the men's draw, and Bobby Chintapalli will be picking highlight WTA matches on the women's side.

I see that Kim Clijsters laid a one-and-one pasting on her talented countrywoman, Yanina Wickmayer, today at Eastbourne. I'd say that Justine Henin's oft-affirmed ambition to add at least one Wimbledon title to her collection is a pretty daunting task when you consider that in the past 9 years, one or the other of the Williams sisters, Venus and Serena, has taken the title a whopping seven times. Henin has her work cut out for her. And so does Clijsters.


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Posted by Tari 06/16/2010 at 03:28 PM

Hi, Alexis! (And Arun!)

I didn't know that. Love me my Hewitt, so I'm happy to hear it, then.

Posted by L.Rubin 06/16/2010 at 03:30 PM

"So... because Spain loses to Switzerland in the World Cup... some fans actually want to make Wimbledon some kind of 'grudge' tournament for revenge? Oh please!"

Consider the possibility, Alexis, that this was suggested as a joke. Lighten up, will ya?

Re: Tari

Is this THE Tari?

--Liron

Posted by Tari 06/16/2010 at 03:33 PM

Yes! Hello, Liron!

Posted by Alexis 06/16/2010 at 03:38 PM

L.Rubin... excuse me all to Hell! I don't have my 'sarcasm' button working on my laptop so that it can interpret what every poster means by just their text. Besides, I don't think I was wrong. So lighten up yourself.

Posted by L.Rubin 06/16/2010 at 03:45 PM

"So lighten up yourself."

Oh, snap! In the spirit of a recent TMF commercial, just think about how such insults make me feel!

Your humor button is also on the blink today, as it usually is when someone makes a teasing remark about TMF. Are you TMF's mom, Alexis?

--Liron

Posted by Tari 06/16/2010 at 03:48 PM

*bites nails nervously*

Posted by Jackie 06/16/2010 at 03:50 PM

*waves to everyone* *gives Tari a bearhug*

Um, let's talk about Gilles winning 2 consecutive matches instead? ;)

Posted by Ruth 06/16/2010 at 03:54 PM

LOL @ your 3:28! BTW I think I'll now ask my sister-in-law if these comfortable slacks that I just changed into for my flight home make me look fat! That question would be responsible all by itself for quite a few assaults if the old "polite lies" rule didn't exist. :)

Posted by Ruth 06/16/2010 at 04:03 PM

http://www.theboodles.com/view_news.php?id=00094

This link is for Jamaica Karen and any new (like me) Dustin Brown fans. Beating Verdasco 13-11 in the third is quite an achievement for the #105 player, even if it is in a amusingly-named pre-Wimby exo -- The Boodles Challenge!

Posted by Tari 06/16/2010 at 04:06 PM

Hi ya, Jax!

Posted by jb (Roddick FTW!) 06/16/2010 at 04:23 PM

*skitters in*

jackie!!!!!!!!!!!!! gilles won in 3 sets matches of course! Patented gilles manner, no? :) nice to see him back and winning. :)

ruth - dustin was in the boodles? exo or not that is a nice result for him.

Posted by Master Ace 06/16/2010 at 04:27 PM

Ruth,
Jamaica Karen told us about Dustin's win in the previous thread. Good win indeed for Dustin.

Posted by Ruth 06/16/2010 at 04:37 PM

Thanks, MA. And yes, indeed, jb.

Now, I'm off to the airport. Catch you guys later when I'm back home!

Posted by Jackie 06/16/2010 at 04:49 PM

Tari, still there? How are you?

JB!!! And in a 3rd set breaker no less.

Posted by Mr.X (Live, from Minionland!) 06/16/2010 at 05:00 PM

Ok, so i'm back. And only slightly tipsy, darn it all.
Hi everyone.
DONT mention that. You know what i mean. So, let's talk some tennis instead. Yes, let's do that.
Hi Jackie, i see you are here. Congratulations on that ex-husband. It's kinda refreshing to see you still supporting him after the "divorce".
I saw that Nadal was seeded No.2, and Fed No.1 for Wimbledon. Not surprising, IMO, and i dont think it can lead to many arguements, considering that (i believe) the seeds are determined in a mathematical way. So, if the numbers say it, that's what it is. Besides, and this is the ultimate and absolute truth, there's nothing worst for us in Minionland than being favourites. NOTHING. The black legend always strickes back. But i'm digressing, and i dont want to go there. Back to the seeds, i thought maybe RAndy could get to the Top 4, and leave Nole out, but i guess he didnt have enough grass points. So there's a bomb waiting in the QFs for one of the top guys. Personally, i hope he falls in Nole's quarter. That would make the draw more balanced.
Also saw that apparently Nadal has confirmed his presence in the Tokyo (?) tournament. Apparently, the stupidity has invaded all of us in Minionland today.

Posted by Jackie 06/16/2010 at 05:11 PM

Mr. X! I'm loyal, what can I say. Or just fair-weathered. :)

Indeed. Formulas are formulas.

Posted by Mr.X (Live, from Minionland!) 06/16/2010 at 05:20 PM

Yep, i dont really see where the discussion can be in this matter.
The guys at Wimbledon want to give some weight to grass performance, which sounds right to me. The grass season is very short (more like non-existent), so they give some extra weight to add to the ranking points to what players have done on grass in the last year. It's not like the players can go around picking up points to raise their seeding, since there arent really grass tournaments.
Besides, Fed's the favourite. No Spaniard should allow anybody to call him, her, or his/her team favourites for quite a long time.

Apart from that, i see that Kim delivered another thumping today. She seems to be in good form looking ahead to Wimbledon, although it looks tough for anybody to challenge the sisters. Good to see the Queen of Nastiness winning some matches too. Maybe there will be the chance to enjoy some of her nastiness, and she wont lose before the tournament even gets to the first week, like she did in RG.

Posted by zenggi 06/16/2010 at 05:21 PM

Hi Jackie and Mr. X.

Did I miss Tari?. Again?

OK so let's talk about something marginally related to this blog. It's Bloomsday!
You know that Leopold Bloom on whose behalf everybody and his uncle is having a great time in Temple Bar (Dublin).
I'm watching you, Mr. X. How many drinks and what sort of alcohol did you have?

Some people (meaning tennis players) will never learn. More points to defend next year and more unnecessary risks taken. I don't want to hear anyone of team Nadal complaining about the LPG.

Posted by Pspace 06/16/2010 at 05:24 PM

""So, if the numbers say it, that's what it is.""

Ah...if only my thesis adviser would accept this line of reasoning ;-).

Hola Mr. X. Hope you found some good alcohol.

Posted by zenggi 06/16/2010 at 05:31 PM

Hi, Jackie.
Did I miss Tari again?. Meh.

Mr. X,
How is it going?. I hope you have joined the Joyceans to celebrate Bloomsday. You know that Leopold Bloom on whose behalf everybody and his uncle is celebrating in Temple Bar in Dublin. What I really want to know is how many drinks did you have and what sort of alcohol was involved.

And Team Nadal keeps giving. More points to defend next year and more risks involved. I don't want to hear a word about those LPG's.

Posted by Mr.X (Live, from Minionland!) 06/16/2010 at 05:32 PM

zenggi and Pspace,
Actually, my previous post earlier today was from work, and i still stayed there a good couple of hours after that (we had to recover the time we had spent watching that thing i really dont want to mention), so it's only been a number of beers with my buddies once i got home. There was another match on TV, but we didnt really watch it. We were still seeing the previous match in our heads, over and over.
Overall, not really drunk. Only slightly tipsy. Not nearly enough. Still quite mad. It was our time. It had to be our time.
Sigh.

See, now you've done it. I blame the 2 of you for this. I was discussing tennis!:)

Posted by zenggi 06/16/2010 at 05:33 PM

Good Lord,
Can Typepad get tipsy as well?. I had given up on it and I had to write everything again. Why?

Posted by Mr.X (Live, from Minionland!) 06/16/2010 at 05:35 PM

About the most recent (but probably not the last) stupid scheduling decission from Team Nadal, the only explanation i can find is that they are also in a troubled state of mind after the events of today. Maybe clarity will return to them tomorrow.
Seriously, i thought reason had prevailed with the good decission of skipping Barcelona (which by the way, paid off, big-time), but apparently not. All that saying that they are gonna be more careful with the schedule, and now this. Insane.

Posted by zenggi 06/16/2010 at 05:37 PM

You should educate your boss, Mr. X. Recover time working after the thing that never happened? Tsk.

I was talking about tennis as well. Tokyo...

Posted by Jackie 06/16/2010 at 05:37 PM

Hi zenggi! Always nice to see you.

Oof, and where are my manners (going OT is way too ingrained now, thanks to the DC!). Really looking forward to Pete's book.

Posted by ndk 06/16/2010 at 05:39 PM

Federer and Nadal are unusual in that they have made it to so many RG and Wimbledon finals. However, grass remains a DIFFERENT surface to play on, so the seeding formula makes sense at Wimbledon. I doubt that Nadal expects to open on Monday; I doubt he would accept if Federer "graciously" offered- Nadal has a lot of pride from what I can see, and he wouldn't want a charitable honor passed on to him.

Posted by Gunther 06/16/2010 at 05:44 PM

We are the Swiss, mighty mighty Swiss:)

Posted by Mr.X (Live, from Minionland!) 06/16/2010 at 05:47 PM

Nadal certainly wont open on Monday, neither should he. In his public comments before Wimbledon, he has said that he will prectice hard to reach the appropiate form when he starts on Tuesday.
And that's the way it should be. The defending champion opens center court on Monday, and Federer is the defending champion. If Nadal couldnt do it last year, it's too bad, but that shouldnt be an arguement to make the same thing happen this year, when the defending champion will actually be playing.

Posted by zenggi 06/16/2010 at 05:50 PM

Now I know for sure that Typepad is tipsy. I've waited 5 minutes for my comment to appear.

Hi Jackie, How was your weekend?

I'm going to sign off but I'll read your answer if you want to share something with us.

See you all tomorrow.

Posted by Jackie 06/16/2010 at 05:56 PM

zenggi, I'll give Typepad a talking-to. :) Weekend was great, though I was bummed to see the drama in the DC. Will give it a mention on Friday. Hope you're well!!

Posted by Mr Rick 06/16/2010 at 06:04 PM

Mr X, I won't mention that thing you don't want to talk about, but because I am not a World Cup expert, what happens now?

I assume Spain still has a chance to advance from their group if they win the rest of their matches??? Please say this is true!

The British also have something they don't want to talk about, so maybe the Spaniards and the Brits can get together and not talk about things together.

Posted by Mr.X (Live, from Minionland!) 06/16/2010 at 06:05 PM

Drama? Today was drama, Jackie:)
And it will only get more and more dramatic. I think i'm gonna need some valium. Or maybe we'll just lose the next match and it will all be over.
Anyway, it's pretty obvious i havent gotten over it, so i better go to sleep. Tomorrow will be another day, and i hope it will be better. Today, quite frankly, sucked.
See you tomorrow, everyone.

Posted by Link 06/16/2010 at 06:10 PM

I be sad that my seeding calculations a page ago seem to be for naught :(

Quite a few posts lamenting the supposed unfairness of Nadal not being seeded #1 at Wimbledon. To be fair however, most that reiterate that statement don't seem to be any of the TW regulars (I lurk a lot, the regulars be familiar to moi ;p).

I went back and had a look see at the calculations, and found out that had Federer skipped the entire clay season, he would still have been seeded #1 at Wimbledon.

Nadal won everything during the clay run, so his post-seeding ranking points remain at 10245 points.

Federer's points on clay in 2010:
Rome - 10, Estoril - 90, Madrid - 600, RG - 360; Total = 1060 points.

So Federer's post-seeding ranking points for Wimbles sans clay would be:
11425 - 1060 = 10365 points, which is still higher than Nadal's current points.

/aside/
Is also sad at once again seeing how many points Federer could have gained post-AO.
C'est la vie.

Posted by zenggi 06/16/2010 at 06:10 PM

Jackie,
Just before I go. I wouldn't mention it. In Europe such a "drama" would have taken place in the 60's. But it's a big wide world and probably due to the debate and reactions some people has learnt that it wasn't offensive to the majority of the women. Live and let live.

Posted by Mr.X (Live, from Minionland!) 06/16/2010 at 06:14 PM

OK, Mr Rick, i'll make an exception, but only for a minute before i leave:)
This is what happens now: there are 2 more matches left for Spain in round robin. If we win both, we advance to the next round (i dont know if that's mathematically guaranteed, but i'm pretty sure). If not, even with a tie in the next 2 matches, Spain is pretty much out of the World Cup. Simple.
They say (and it's true) that in the World Cup things really heat up when we reach the knockout rounds. Well, for Spain, things have just gotten hot. From here on, every match is basically a knockout match. Win or go home.
Really off.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 06:22 PM

Mr X Good to see your still breathing after last night I held grave fears for you

Posted by Mr Rick 06/16/2010 at 06:26 PM

Well, the Tokyo tournament isn't until October 4, so I don't see it as a problem for Rafa's playing schedule.

Once the USO is over, he'll pretty much have the whole month off, except for Davis Cup, before heading to Tokyo. Shanghai starts the next week, so it will be a good warm up.

The fall hard court season has never been much of a favorite for Rafa, so he might as well go off somewhere new where he can make a lot of money, make all his Japanese fans happy, and have some fun. I would love to go to Japan if I had the chance.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 06:32 PM

Mr Rick Well Japan is not that far from Aussie

I will have to get my Kimino ready Chanel inspired of course

If Rafa plays in Japan

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 07:01 PM

Anyway for me I will just concentrate on Wimby.

I just want Rafa to remain healthy for the rest of the season and be able to compete at a high level.

Reading his latest comments he thinks the same.

Posted by Mr Rick 06/16/2010 at 07:16 PM

Thanks a lot mr X. okay, fingers crossed here BIG TIME that Spain pulls through - they are an awesome team and I know how much it would mean to everyone there. VAAMMMOOOSSSSSSSS España!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AM, we would love to see a Kimono-wearing, Gucci-sunglassed, Chanel bag-clutching Aussie in the Tokyo stands. And I think its the kind of outfit that should bring your guy extra good luck. But if it just blinds him, he probably deserves it after all those carnival-type outfits he has been wearing, sheesh...

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 06/16/2010 at 07:18 PM

'evening folks! I just got my Hardcourt Confidential in the mail. Can't wait to dig into it. It's got pictures and everything!

What has team nadal done now? I missed the latest.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 07:19 PM

Mr Rick Is there a tournament in Mardi Gras land?

Rafa with his current gear would blend in perfectly there

Except he would have to wear Carmen Miranda Headgear

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 07:26 PM

Mr Rick Though praise indeed

At least that Pink Tee wasnt seen at RG
'
Hell Peril that thought from last year

Having seen Rafa play at RG in 2005 I want that Rafa back

Pfft to his current gear.He is no Bull at all.

Hell have you seen his USO night kit

Spider Man in green fluro shoes.At least they wont need to put on the lights those shoes will light up the court

I wont spoil it for anyone what he is wearing to the AO 2011 but Ugh! and seeing I am going nect year I will have to sit him down and give him a good talking too.

Posted by Arun 06/16/2010 at 08:02 PM

Programming Alert:
Sampras/Rafter Wimby'00 final on TTC starting now.

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 06/16/2010 at 08:12 PM

Arun: I didn't watch sampras then so i don't think i'll start now. :)

Posted by chanting seventeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 06/16/2010 at 08:13 PM

Little white lies be darned!!! I want my fed back, and that's no lie, little or no!

Ok so... I've shuuuuuuned all things tennis-related since Paris, what's this about nadal camp being cautious?!?

*waves to la Tari!!!*

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 08:17 PM

Ahhh Arun You got me

Pete has that one

Like hubby has everything on Sampras

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 08:18 PM

Sniff and more Sniff

Why do they have to show That One

What about Pat at the USO no?

Posted by Arun 06/16/2010 at 08:21 PM

They are showing the Wimby classics during this week, AM.
Maybe they will show that Rafter-Pete USO SF during August.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 08:23 PM

Arun I guessed that

Still the Pain of it all

Thank goodness hubby is on his tractor if I told him that he would pull out his tape

Like I have seen that 1000000000000000000000000000000000000 times already

Posted by Jamaica Karen (WTA Rules) 06/16/2010 at 08:40 PM

Good evening All. I have some excellent news that I wish to share with my fellow tennis lovers here. I know that most of you are aware that I recently relocated to Jamaica. One of the biggest problems that I faced was the lack of tennis coverage on the channels here and my many communications with my cable provider.

Tonight, while searching through the various ESPNs to ensure that I have the start times for Wimbledon as well as check to see whether I will get all day coverage as what I have become accustomed to, I saw that my local cable provider has now added Tennis Channel to the line up.

If there is anyone else here in Jamaica (talking to you Antoinette) or if there is anyone here who may be thinking of visiting during Wimbledon and your hotel or guest house has Flow, feel free to turn to Channel 717 for the Tennis Channel. So excited.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 08:43 PM

Karen Great news.

Posted by ActionFlunky 06/16/2010 at 08:49 PM

So halftime of S. Africa/Uruguay (earlier today). Have the TV on in the living room; at my desk in the study, half an ear on the proceedings the next room over. ESPN's studio crew is wrapping things up. I sorta hear a few commercials afterward -- muted white noise, waiting for the sound of the announcing crew to welcome us back to so-and-so stadium. I check an email -- momentarily forget about the game -- then I hear it, the sound of a thousand bees coming from my living room, no announcers voices, just those soccer-loving bees. Yep, that's the sound that welcomes viewers back to the second half of S. Africa v. Uruguay -- commercial/cut/bees.

Semi-related note, ESPN/ABC has Fowler at the WC. Can't say I'll be too pleased if he's not anchoring at Wimby. Much as I don't mind Chris McKendry, she ain't Fowler.

Posted by Red 1.7.17.287⁺ = Legacy Solidified 06/16/2010 at 08:52 PM

OT but could not resist
PRETORIA, South Africa -- Diego Maradona made stinging comments about fellow soccer greats Pele and Michel Platini on Wednesday after the pair criticized Maradona's performance as Argentina coach.

Maradona said he was not surprised by their comments and that "Pele has to go back to the museum."

I love you Diego Maradona you lunatic!

Posted by Jamaica Karen (WTA Rules) 06/16/2010 at 08:58 PM

Hi AM, after berating my local cable company for months, I had to send them a nice email thanking them for giving me the Tennis Channel. And it came just in time too as tomorrow night is my favourite Venus moment of all time. The 2005 Wimbledon Ladies Singles Final. That was when Venus believed and all her fans who had been suffering for so long rejoiced and jumped with joy for her.

Posted by eclipse22 (rafagirl FORZA ITALIA!!!) 06/16/2010 at 09:00 PM

"alexis:
So... because Spain loses to Switzerland in the World Cup... some fans actually want to make Wimbledon some kind of 'grudge' tournament for revenge? Oh please!"

alexis i sure hope u did not take my ranting in the first degree, coz that would be weird,its just a football game i was just venting my disapointment, they didnt get kick out of the tourney yet(that honor is reserve for france tomorrow, lol,evil grin)

plus i thought it was hilarious/ironic when i realize spain vs switzerland = rafa/ roger also that's why i came here and said so,its just an angle to work from in rafa's triumphant return to wimby( this girl is optimistic)

i went shopping afterwards, forgot all about it, won't see much of the world cup or wimby as i'll be travelling to paris, maybe london too...
omg i might get to go to wimbledon aaaahhhhh well at least take a pic walk the ground, watch a match on murray's hill lol...later peeple , all's good!
chillaxing with jack johnson cd "to the sea"

Posted by thebigapple 06/16/2010 at 09:29 PM

JK, the last time I was in Jamaica I saw some locals with the Tennis Channel in their house. Over time as I saw your frustrated posts I did wonder about the neck of the woods you had moved into but did not know the country well enough to comment. Good to know your provider had provided. All they needed was prolly a firm request.

Posted by thebigapple 06/16/2010 at 09:34 PM

Thank you Maradona and Switzerland. Some-one had to get the fun into the World Cup.

Geez, where are the human foibles and drama, the players who as eccentrics, nutsy coaches, reckless chaps, the guys that show wild personality at the Mundial. We have seen every team and we still have not seen any memorable characters...the stuff that makes you really love the humanity on display every 4 years. In the next three weeks I hope all ruckuss breaks out...

Posted by JohnC 06/16/2010 at 09:40 PM

I'd like to second the proposal above that RG implement a clay-based seeding system similar to the Wimby grass metric. It would be fairer to players and make for a better balanced draw.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 09:48 PM

Well then in that case it should be right across the board in all slams

Posted by ActionFlunky 06/16/2010 at 09:50 PM

thebigapple@9:34 -- agreed.

Posted by Ramana 06/16/2010 at 09:51 PM

Pete,
Will you be giving all your earnings on this report to Pat? 99% of the words are his!!

Posted by pov 06/16/2010 at 09:53 PM

Nice excerpt. Thanks

Posted by Pspace 06/16/2010 at 09:53 PM

They should just make draws random. I'd like to have the possibility of a Fedal first round....given that a certain Swiss fails to make finals these days. There's just a 1 in 127 chance of it happening...so it's prolly as fair as the current system.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 09:55 PM

Psapce You are too cruel really?

Posted by Fangorina 06/16/2010 at 09:58 PM

Arun: Thanks for the Sampras/Rafter tip! One of my favorites.

Posted by Fangorina 06/16/2010 at 09:59 PM

AM: I forgot what a discerning man your husband is. :)

Posted by Pete 06/16/2010 at 10:00 PM

Howdy, everyone. As of 6 pm today, I was still unable to access typepad to post, but since the comments haven't gotten too loaded up I think I'll hold off until tomorrow, a.m., at which time I'll have a special little feature from Master Ace.

Posted by espnalanaldo 06/16/2010 at 10:00 PM

Apparently most of the contenders in grass, Roddick, Nadal, djok, etc all tested the bounce in grass and summarily (by design or not) to rest. Meanwhile, Roger in a gimme grass title lost to Hewitt.

Apparently, Roger does not measure up of the ball bounce in grass anymore.

I will not be surprised if Roger is eliminated in the first week.

Posted by Pspace 06/16/2010 at 10:00 PM

AM, hehe, think about it...the first week of a slam is snooze city anyway. Who the hail wants to see Federer play Devin Briton or Rafa play Mina...ridiculous.

Posted by ActionFlunky 06/16/2010 at 10:01 PM

JohnC -- I'd even go two steps further and say, 1) have select-seeding committees at each Slam, and 2) use a wider-range of criteria for selecting (even a subjective element) than what Wimby uses. Case in point, what's the percentage of people who really believe that Djokovic has the third-best chance of winning the tournament? Granted, it's not as obvious as Andy Roddick, your fifth seed at Roland Garros, but it's still noticeable.

Having said that, watch Nole go win the thing.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 10:09 PM

Fangoria NP has also mentioned that a few times as well

I dont know about discerning lol!

Hey I know Pete Samrpas front back and centre and them some

Know I dont mena his bodily parts either

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 10:11 PM

Pspace Well its nice to snooze in the first couple of rounds

Fans then are given a chance to build up there

Frazzle Mode!

Posted by Pspace 06/16/2010 at 10:13 PM

Just to go slightly OT...there is this rather amusing incident in the NFL about this defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth who is refusing to play for a team because he has a philosphical disagreement with their strategy! The Redskins wanna play a 3-4 D and he gets to make more plays in a 4-3 D...so he's not showing up. Jeez....and he collected a check for 21 million dollars. Anyway, the skins have a history of poor free agent signing...how the hail do you offer 100mill to a guy who tried to kick in some1 else's face.

Posted by Pspace 06/16/2010 at 10:14 PM

""Just to go slightly OT""

Ummm...I can't imagine Roger or Rafa doing something like that. Just to justify the _slightly_ OT.

Posted by vetmama 06/16/2010 at 10:15 PM


@ 08:13 PM chanting seventeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uh...siggy? Is that you?

Posted by vetmama 06/16/2010 at 10:25 PM

Pspace

Speaking of that kind of behavior...

I had a hilarious conversation with a guy at work today.
He was talking about a comedian who says that all pro athletes should be *required* to take steroids.

My coworker said (only half-joking), "I totally agree! I mean, can you imagine the incredible brawls that would happen? That would make all sports more exciting!"

I said, "Oh pleease, just because you love MMA doesn't mean that everyone wants that sort of stuff in their sport!"

He countered, "Think of it! Federer and Nadal getting in a fistfight in the middle of a match? No one would talk about anything else for weeks!"

I've been laughing about that mental image for the last few hours:
A 'roided out Federer and Nadal in a free-for-all on the hallowed grass of Wimbledon...

Jee.:)

Posted by ActionFlunky 06/16/2010 at 10:26 PM

I thought "chanting" might be Pspace's former adversary.

Posted by Fangorina 06/16/2010 at 10:26 PM

AM: I think it is the height of good taste to watch Pete Sampras' Wimbledon matches from any angle.

Posted by Pspace 06/16/2010 at 10:27 PM

LOL, vetmama. Does 'roided Federer have muscles on his left arm? Otherwise, this fight is gonna be a no contest ;-).

Posted by Pspace 06/16/2010 at 10:28 PM

AF, who do you mean? The faux French is trademark siggy.

Posted by Fangorina 06/16/2010 at 10:29 PM

Pete is losing at this point. But I think he will pull out this 2000 match against Rafter so I am not frazzling. Mad, Mr. Fangorina says, but not frazzling.

Posted by vetmama 06/16/2010 at 10:29 PM

ActionFlunky

I guess it could be Beckham, but I thought the exuberance and the "la Tari" sounded like siggy.

She always seems to breeze in and out before I can blink.:)

Posted by Pspace 06/16/2010 at 10:30 PM

Oh Beckham! Where did she go off to...prolly watching World Cup?

Posted by ActionFlunky 06/16/2010 at 10:31 PM

Spacie -- ah, ok. Just the Federer attitude kinda reminded me of a certain poster who shared the same name with England's former futbol captain.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 10:31 PM

Vetmama Siggy has used soo many disguises

I have lost count lol!

I love the Sweet Sixteen one,though it took me forever to type the thing

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 10:32 PM

Fangoira Sopken like a true Sampras fan

Posted by Arun 06/16/2010 at 10:35 PM

Fact: Every legend has had some miraculous escape (translation: his/her opponents choke). Except that, THIS era is overanalyzed with some snark inflation. Thank you, Internet.

Posted by vetmama 06/16/2010 at 10:36 PM

Pspace

The idea of a physically-aggressive Federer, even with a buff left arm, is worthy of a laugh.

He may be physically intimidating on a tennis court, but off-court?
I bet I could beat him up.:)

Posted by vetmama 06/16/2010 at 10:38 PM

...which, for some strange reason, is rather endearing to me.
Go figure.

Posted by Pspace 06/16/2010 at 10:42 PM

vetmama, hehe, yes...chuckle-worthy indeed. I'm not sure if Federer is intimidating even on the tennis court*...it's more that his game makes you wanna sit down and write poetry, which can kinda distract from the business of winning ;-). Sorta like when Devin Briton played against him, and he said he was hitting to Fed's fh just to see the shot.

*-I have not see Federer live. Rafa is one scary dude...I would not mess with him.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 10:50 PM

Pspace hey leave my boy alone no?

off court he is someone every mother would wish to have ok

Posted by vetmama 06/16/2010 at 10:52 PM


Actually, Pspace, I think the loveliness of Roger's game even distracts him from the business of winning sometimes.

Almost felt that way with last years' USO, and with Halle last week...

He was playing so beautifully early on that he got lulled to sleep by his own game...or maybe he was bemused enough to be working on an epic poem in his head about his place in tennis history...and before he knew it his opponent had hit the gas and he was standing there with the runner-up trophy.

The siren song of the Federer Game.:)

Posted by Pspace 06/16/2010 at 10:57 PM

AM, sure. Every mom wants a son who can also serve as bodyguard, no? ;-)

vetmama, hehe, yeah. I think he mentioned a few weeks ago (in RG perhaps) that his game entertains him. Oh well...not the worst thing, when you've been a pro for like 10+ years. Anyway, in the Rusty match, the missed OH on BP in the second set seemed like the key mistake. If he makes that, he prolly takes the set...as Rusty was a bit down with losing the first one. Anyway, it's always like this with declining champs...first it's not there when you really need it, then it's not there most of the time, and then you retire ;-).

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 11:00 PM

Personally I blame it on the hair

Roger is in need of a trim

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 11:01 PM

Pspace We all know out boy is not "one dimensional"???

Posted by vetmama 06/16/2010 at 11:02 PM

AM, you're only saying that to get a rise out of me
*wags finger*

BTW, has Hermione gone back into heat yet?

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 06/16/2010 at 11:04 PM

Vetmama LOL!!!!!!! knew you would bite

Ok nothing drastic? just a little snip here and there no?

I love his hair

She has calmed down for the present

Just waiting for the next time she come into heat Ahhhhhhhhhh!

Posted by vetmama 06/16/2010 at 11:06 PM

You must have some kitty pictures, right?
I'd love to see these bundles of mischief.

Posted by vetmama 06/16/2010 at 11:10 PM

I saw a patient today who's name was "Bad Kitty".

I also had a vet friend who's cat he simply named "Bad".
I loved to hear him call her.

"Here, Bad! Baaaaaad!"

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