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Rock Stars For a Week 11/25/2010 - 11:38 PM

Bb by Hannah Wilks, TennisWorld Contributing Writer

Numbers are a big part of any tennis fan's life, and there’s always a day at the year-end championship when the numbers take centre stage. Last year, Andy Murray was denied a place in the semifinals by an abstract mathematical calculation, a del Potro second-serve ace and a Hawkeye challenge; a matter of millimetres and the progress of the championships was altered. This year, Murray is ranked No. 5 and back at the O2 among the elite; del Potro, last year’s finalist, played six matches in 2010 and is currently ranked No. 262 due to the vagaries of injury. Sometimes numbers do tell the whole story.

It’s clear today that the organizers here at the ATP World Tour Finals have learned from the embarrassments of last year. Everywhere, the big screens flash group standings and qualification scenarios for the crowds; the media are handed briefing notes updating the latest outcomes and possibilities at regular intervals. Permutations and probabilities are bandied back and forth at the bar, on the stairs, in whispers inside the arena. It starts to feel like a drinking game (sponsored by Corona, of course)Soderling took it to a tiebreak: two fingers! Murray won more than four games in a set: down in one!

As it turns out, however, everybody might as well have left their calculators at home, as the Group B progressions were settled by the simplest of eventualities; Roger Federer defeated Robin Soderling 7-6 (5), 6-3 in a majestic defensive display, leaving himself in solitary state as the first player to qualify for the semifinals. The Swede is eliminated from contention and heading home for the holidays, with the second semifinal spot to be decided between Andy Murray and David Ferrer. The consensus is that Murray has to win a set, or win a minimum of seven games in losing. It sounds simple, but when is anything with the Scot ever as straightforward as it should be?

It turns out you can’t even depend on Murray to be undependable. He starts off in woeful fashion by losing serve, but before anyone can hunker down for a long night, he recovers and doesn’t look back, winning not just the first set but the second to book his semifinal spot. David Ferrer leaves London without winning a match, Murray gets to experience a semifinal Saturday at the O2, and everyone’s left with rather an anticlimactic feeling.

But the most interesting numbers of the day for me are the ones that come up in the Bryan brothers’ press conference, after the twins have sealed their qualification for the semifinals by beating Lukas Dlouhy and Leander Paes in straight sets, afterwards being presented with the ATP fans’ favorite award. Their numbers in 2010 tell their own story: two Grand Slams, in Melbourne and New York. Their 600th match win in Delray Beach. The sixth time they have finished the year ranked No. 1. Their 62nd championship win in L.A., surpassing the all-time career titles record. Those are GOAT numbers, even if they have to be marginally qualified with the insertion of' 'team.'

Having accomplished all of this, there’s a sad inevitability to the main thrust of the questionsthe health of the doubles game. Usually, it’s the aging of the viewer demographic that is the concern, not the participants. But the average age of the players in this year’s draw is 32, as opposed to 26 in the singles; the youngest player in the doubles draw is the 26-year-old Philipp Petzchner, a relative baby next to 39-year-old Dick Norman. The oldest player in the singles is Federer at 29 and the draw includes two 23-year-olds, Murray and Djokovic. A Bryan (I can’t tell them apart when they’re not holding their racquets) acknowledges the problem: These 20 guys are the same guys we’ve been playing against for the last 10 years. We’re all still at the top of the game. There aren’t a lot of guys breaking through. It’s being repopulated by singles players. It used to be the Top 50 guys used to have two or three singles players in it. Now it’s half and half.

Think about that for a minute. Then name, if you can, one successful doubles specialist who is under 25 and who promises much for the future. It’s easy to dismiss doubles, an attitude that I’ve been guilty of myself; it’s an opportunity to see more of your favourite singles players, perhaps, or a way to kill time while you’re waiting for some real action to begin. I’ve had the opportunity this week to watch the best playing the best, and yet until today, the most attention I’ve paid to the top seeds is to enjoy the slo-mo replay of Mike getting hit in the back of the head with Bob’s serve. Or possibly the other way around.

Doubles doesn’t just require discipline; it is a discipline. Jurgen Melzer, No. 11 in the world, teamed with a solid singles player in Petzchner, still found himself eliminated today by Mariusz Fyrstenberg and Marcin Matkowski. Nobody’s going to stop the latter team in the street, but they are masters of their sport and the specific skills it rewards. Power from the baseline can accomplish much, but it can still be rendered impotent by the cool head and practiced hands required to finish a point at the net. How different might today’s singles results have been had Robin Soderling had the split-second confidence to put away Federer’s high, floating ball?

It may all too often be treated as an encumbrance at worst, a consolation prize at bestnot a lot of kids growing up wanting to be the best in the world in doubles, as even said best players admitbut if doubles as an end in itself dies, to be replaced by singles players supplementing their incomes and match play, something will be lost. Not just the particular skills of serve and volley, familiarity and precision at net, but a sport that rewards eccentricity and uniqueness, the coming together of two players that separately would have been very ordinary to become something greater than the sum of their parts.

Any commenter or commentator is familiar with those who lament tennis’ increasing homogeneity; they should watch more doubles. Yesterday, a day that saw public complaints from one singles player about the time his opponent was taking in order to be physically able to continue the match, I witnessed Max Miyrni bending down to the ground to chat to his partner Mahesh Bhupathi while he received medical attention, folding his angular limbs to put their heads close together. Their opponents, meanwhile, the soon-to-split Nestor and Zimonjic, were as far apart as two players could be, Nestor slumping in a chair shrouded in towels while Zimonjic took energetic practice swings at the far end of the court. Talk about the range of human experience. And today, I’m listening to two people I’ve often derided talk with warmth and a total lack of self-pity about the senescence of the sport they have dedicated their life to, the sport that has made them extraordinary. 

That at least is one thing that the World Tour Finals has going for it, despite the occasional limpness of the round-robin format. I haven’t seen the arena less than two-thirds full for a doubles match this week; they’ve been cheered, slow-clapped, bemoaned, had their names chanted. There’s nothing like it, a Bryan says; when you have intros, smoke, lights, music, you have goosebumps … We feel like rock stars.

To be treated like stars one week out of fifty-two isn’t the best ratio, but for a team who have broken the greatest of records, it’s a lot better than none.


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Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 02:51 PM

"Anyway, I'm no Rafa expert but thought he was playing well and has a good chance to beat Murray."

So, apparently, does Murray....lol. And he DOES consider himself to be a Rafa expert. Though not so much, it would seem, a Rafa defeater. ;-) Though, again, could be just trying to keep the Brit journos from eviscerating him if indeed, he does lose.

Sherlock - well I hope whatever it is that 'ails' you gets all better quickest. Its very nice here in the People's Republic of Vermont. Bright sun, enough wind to rattle a few things. Now we just need some snow. A few people have started calling the period from after the leaves fall off to before the first real snow, 'Stick Season' - in, all the tree branches look like sticks. And I suppose it is a step up from Mud Season, which is really more a spring thing, anyway.

Oh, and speaking of 'seasons,' and in keeping with Pete's recent White Tail deer post, my fav recent VT bumper sticker:

"If its Tourist Season, why can't we shoot them?"

Posted by Ausiemarg,Madame President,Rafa London Is Calling! 11/26/2010 at 02:51 PM

Oh how could forget Barry White aka Nouni who has the best voice as a Umpire lol!

Posted by Ausiemarg,Madame President,Rafa London Is Calling! 11/26/2010 at 02:54 PM

work Agreed.Rafa has just had a amazing year.He has past my expectations quite frankly a long time ago in ways.To see him make a s/final here at the end of a long season comparing past seasons for me its just great.

Though may I say I would love it if he can win here as well.

Posted by Master Ace 11/26/2010 at 02:55 PM

Saturday Order of Play from London:

Bob Bryan and Mike Bryan vs Daniel Nestor and Nenad Zimonjic at 7:15 AM
Rafael Nadal(70-9; 10-4) vs Andy Murray(46-17; 7-4) at 9 AM
Mariusz Fyrstenberg and Marcin Matkowski vs Mahesh Bhupathi and Max Mirnyi at 1:15 PM
Novak Djokovic(58-17; 3-7),unless Andy Roddick(48-17; 4-4) win in straight sets, vs Roger Federer(63-13; 14-6) at 3 PM

Sunday Order of Play from London:
Doubles Final at 10:30 AM
Singles Final at 12:30 PM

Posted by @work 11/26/2010 at 02:57 PM

AM,
Of course, a win in London would be great!!
I just don't think Murray is a good match-up for Rafa on hard court but Rafa is resourceful as we saw today.

He may just have another fit to disrupt Andy's rhythm!...I kid of course, couldn't help myself ;-)

Posted by Ausiemarg,Madame President,Rafa London Is Calling! 11/26/2010 at 02:58 PM

work LOL! hell no not another one

Posted by Holds 2 Love 11/26/2010 at 03:00 PM

pre-match interview, Novak showed he has an eye patch, if necessary.

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 03:02 PM

aww Andy was holding that little boy's hand :) see he's not so bad!

Posted by Holds 2 Love 11/26/2010 at 03:03 PM

and he wears it as he walks out, aaaaaargh...

Posted by imjimmy 11/26/2010 at 03:03 PM

The Mighty Nadal : Serving will be important for Murray, obviously. But I think he will be ok, since Nadal almost always has difficulty to do anything meaningful with the Murray serve. Just see for ex, how easily Murray S-Vs a against Nadal, and get cheap points (almost at will) . His weak forehand, too - which is a liability against other players - becomes a weapon against Nadal, as he pushes Nadal out-wide on the backhand side by creating short cross court angles (just as Davydenko does).

For my money, Nadal hasn't made enough adjustments against Murray over the past couple of years. He needs to stand in the court, cut the angles, and punish Murray 's forehand. Instead he plays the waiting game with Murray, and then gets frustrated and goes for too much since his normal pattern of cc forehand attack doesn't work against Murray. To me he looks tactically clueless at certain times.

It will be interesting to see how Nadal approaches this match, and what (if any) difference his improved serving makes.

As I said before, if Nadal plays his best tennis, he should win. However any other scenario, Murray has to the heavy favorite, given that he's beaten Nadal FOUR out of the last five times they've played on hardcourts.

Posted by Holds 2 Love 11/26/2010 at 03:04 PM

Lars Graf in the chair, Djokovich wins the toss and elects to serve

Posted by Ausiemarg,Madame President,Rafa London Is Calling! 11/26/2010 at 03:04 PM

Heather Maybe he is getting in practice for later lol!

Posted by AO OPEN 11/26/2010 at 03:04 PM

Aw Djoko.. :/

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 03:05 PM

Perhaps, AM. :)

Normally, I enjoy Novak's antics but is he for real with the eye patch?

Posted by AO OPEN 11/26/2010 at 03:06 PM

Wow. Tennis Channel is off..

Posted by Kristy 11/26/2010 at 03:06 PM

Andy, what will your game plan against Nole be? How about high-bouncing shots at his feet so he can't wale on them?

Whale? No, wale.

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 03:07 PM

Kristy, he has to win one, right? I mean otherwise it would be all for naught..

Posted by imjimmy 11/26/2010 at 03:07 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n88CQZbKijs&feature=related

Here's something for the Fed and Nadal fans. Some qualities rallies by both men with their athleticism and shotmaking captured in good HD quality :)

Posted by Tuulia 11/26/2010 at 03:07 PM

AM, I have noticed you care a lot about hair. ;)

Posted by Kristy 11/26/2010 at 03:08 PM

Heather, I think Andy has to win in straights or he's out.

So he will win in straights!

Posted by CWATC 11/26/2010 at 03:09 PM

LOL, CL; I think Murray tweeted he was being sarcastic w/ those comments; I don't think they were completely serious either.

OK, go Andy for the win!

Truly sick of late-night Roger/Djoker matches.

Posted by izidane-It's t-shirt tyyyyyyyyyme. Nole face/hawk shirt on. 11/26/2010 at 03:12 PM

Ugh, what a doozy. May the best man win. Did Nole really pull an eye-patch on us? Lol.

Posted by deeps 11/26/2010 at 03:12 PM

High hopes for Roddick - Djokovic.

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 03:13 PM

Let's hope Novak has hit sights set on DC...

Posted by AO OPEN 11/26/2010 at 03:13 PM

OMFG... are you kidding me?

Posted by Holds 2 Love 11/26/2010 at 03:13 PM

It's great you made it to Vermont, Kristy. DS fail, 0-15

Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 03:13 PM

"There's nothing so boring as watching an athlete going down to defeat without putting up a fight."

AB - Tell it to TByrd...and Muzz.

Posted by wilson75 11/26/2010 at 03:13 PM

Novak should really give the drop shot a rest.

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 03:15 PM

Can't stand Lief and Jimmy A...

Posted by Kristy 11/26/2010 at 03:15 PM

Thanks, Holds 2 Love. I'm glad to be here.

Except I have to go now. Ugghh. Go Andy.

Good luck, Heather!

Posted by Lynne (Rafalite) 11/26/2010 at 03:15 PM

The good news is that Nole's eye looks just fine.

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 03:16 PM

Oh let's hope when you come back, you come back to victory, Kristy! :)

Posted by Holds 2 Love 11/26/2010 at 03:22 PM

Roddick holds to love, a very nice point by both at 15-love

Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 03:23 PM

CWATC - well if the twit did tweet that, it is indeed hopeful. I guess the press failed, (again), to pick up on the meaning behind the words. They are not too good at discerning sarcasm sometimes. Fed and Fed fans can testify to that. Remember in the 'olden days' when diving and skating judges would hold up placards with their scores on them? Maybe the players should be issued placards with 'Sarcasm!' 'Irony' 'Just Kidding' pre-printed on them that they could hold up during moments where the press is likely to fail in understanding either verbal language or body language. Which seems about 50% of the time.

I really like how LaCoste finally seems to have convinced Andy to wear shirts that actually fit him.

Posted by mirko337 11/26/2010 at 03:24 PM

Sorry for bringing up this again,but regarding the incident with Carlos.
Rafa did look like he stopped the point. However, the umpire also overruled the “in” call and agreed with him, calling the ball “out,” so Rafa wasn’t able to “challenge” the call. If Rafa was able to challenge the “in” call, he should have definitely lost the point. However, the umpire let Berdych challenge, and outcome of that could have only been either Berdych loses the point if it was out or replay the point if it was in.

The umpire, in effect, made two wrong calls:

1. As Rafa seemed to stopped playing, he should have let him “challenge”; in which case, if it was in, he automatically loses the point.

2. He made the wrong overrule (since the ball was really in).

Since it was Tomas who challenged the overrule and hawk eye showed it was in, he should have replayed the point. Thank you very much and best of luck for the rest of the season

Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 03:24 PM

Uh-oh, TC - having all sort of transmission problems. Aliens have taken over.

Posted by izidane-It's t-shirt tyyyyyyyyyme! Nole face/hawk shirt on. 11/26/2010 at 03:25 PM

Both players serving very well atm.

Posted by Andrew 11/26/2010 at 03:25 PM

2-1 Djokovic, on serve. Both players apparently trying to lull each other to sleep during the rallies - "Here, Novak, take some Ambien." "No, Andy, I insist that you keep watching the slowly moving ball."

Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 03:26 PM

***waves to izidane**** do you really like Novak's kit?

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 03:28 PM

Oh Andy...not good.

Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 03:28 PM

Ah, Andy - you missed you calling as a Kamakaze pilot.

Did Novak really come out w/an eye patch? Cheeky.

Posted by AO OPEN 11/26/2010 at 03:28 PM

YES!
AJDE DJOKO!!!

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 03:29 PM

So much for my prediction...there's got to be something better on tv.

Posted by TacoBell 11/26/2010 at 03:30 PM

Any live links guys...thanks

Posted by AO OPEN 11/26/2010 at 03:31 PM

Bravo Djoko!

Posted by Andrew 11/26/2010 at 03:33 PM

Djokovic breaks, and consolidates. 4-1 Djokovic, with a break. You'd always back him to get a lot of Roddick's serves back into play, and Roddick doesn't seem, to my eyes, to have a strong game plan in the sense of establishing a 60-65% advantage three-to-five shots in.

Posted by izidane-It's t-shirt tyyyyyyyyyme! Nole face/hawk shirt on. 11/26/2010 at 03:35 PM

*waves back to CL*
Do you mean the Fredericks of Hollywood look?..Nah, hate it. It's Papa Nole's shirt that I'm rocking. I decided to embrace the way of the clan.

Nole is being aggressive....quite like it.

Posted by Ausiemarg,Madame President,Rafa London Is Calling! 11/26/2010 at 03:35 PM

Hmmm Andy come on

Vamos Andy!

Posted by Lynne (Rafalite) 11/26/2010 at 03:37 PM

Andy needs Kristy to come back pronto !

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 03:37 PM

He literally didn't even go after that ball...I mean...hello? Earth to Andy you're supposed to be playing tennis here!

Posted by AB 11/26/2010 at 03:38 PM

It's a good thing RAndy's American because he does not play well when Rushing.

CL: I do think that sometimes players' heads are so busy, they're not aware of their body. What we see as lack of will and movement, the players themselves are not aware at all - sort of out of body. So I don't always interpret lack of emoting or movement as giving up. I think that it's difficult to keep a focused in-the-moment intensity for extended periods of physical exertion.

Having said that, I do believe there have been matches where pros have mailed it in even when not suffering physically. Of the current players, I've never seen Roger, Rafa, Hewitt, Ferrer or Roddick do this, but I've seen just about every other player appear to have one of those oh-so-human days.

Posted by Ausiemarg,Madame President,Rafa London Is Calling! 11/26/2010 at 03:38 PM

pfft Andy got to do more on those 2nd serves of Nole

Posted by Andrew 11/26/2010 at 03:40 PM

Djokovic holds comfortably: Roddick needs to win the next three games to have a chance of getting to the SFs. 5-2 Djokovic, with a break.

Posted by Ausiemarg,Madame President,Rafa London Is Calling! 11/26/2010 at 03:41 PM

GB You still awake? I was going for a 'power nap" then the time got have jusr went for a quick run to keep me awake for a bit.

Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 03:41 PM

AB - well, I think Roddick may have just reached the post office, but I take your point.

izidane. - oh,well that's fine then. Definitely no middle ground on the Family Icon Wear.

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 03:43 PM

Incredibly poor effort from Andy.

Posted by Ausiemarg,Madame President,Rafa London Is Calling! 11/26/2010 at 03:44 PM

Good ball striking from Nole at the baseline

Posted by AB 11/26/2010 at 03:44 PM

Heh, no fair, CL: you can't count utter cluelessness as mailing it in.

RAndy always put forth an effort. Just not always the right kind at the right time.

Posted by AO OPEN 11/26/2010 at 03:45 PM

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 03:45 PM

So Andy is foot sore..or just sore in general?

Yeah, Andy just wants out...and though I don't totally blame him, it his own fault for playing so badly against ByrdBrain.

Posted by izidane-It's t-shirt tyyyyyyyyyme! Nole face/hawk shirt on. 11/26/2010 at 03:45 PM

Awww man, I feel really bad for Andy. It just isn't there today.

Posted by Holds 2 Love 11/26/2010 at 03:46 PM

Andrew, thanks for explaining the implications of the results, as Master Ace may be busy with the Alabama - Auburn game. Just a hunch. ;-)

Posted by TMFunk 11/26/2010 at 03:46 PM

so is it Fed-Nole in the night session tomorrow or does Roddick still have a chance if he wins this thing?

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 03:47 PM

Well at least Andy won't have to suffer another horrid loss to Roger. To think he missed turkey for this craptastic week...

Posted by TMFunk 11/26/2010 at 03:47 PM

oh...thanks Andrew...Fed-Nole then...

Posted by Ausiemarg,Madame President,Rafa London Is Calling! 11/26/2010 at 03:47 PM

Robbie and Jason are thrilled the Big 4 have made it to the s/finals

Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 03:48 PM

AB - nah...I think, maybe for the FIRST time I have ever seen, Andy just mailed this in...at least from when he was broken. Plus cluelessness of course, but that's a given. Andy was firing nice mid court, mid pace balls right into Novak's wheel house and Novak was treating them as they should have been.

Posted by AB 11/26/2010 at 03:50 PM

Well, credit Nole, he doesn't miss much and looks very comfortable putting balls into corners, playing some nice sharp angles and serving well.

Let's face it, RAndy cannot win from the baseline against Nole. Even Pirate Nole. Or Nole of the 3 Lenses.

Posted by AB 11/26/2010 at 03:51 PM

CL: If I hadn't seen the RAndy of the Mysteriously Disappeared Forehand over the last 4 years I would agree, but he just doesn't have the natural game to beat Nole. He has to play outside of his comfort level which he's not doing, but I don't necessarily read that as quitting.

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 03:52 PM

AB: Granted right now he's playing terribly but he's won 4 straight against Nole, so he knows how to beat him.

Posted by Andrew 11/26/2010 at 03:53 PM

Interesting question for both players. Let's assume that Roddick doesn't just want to mail it in - should Djokovic scrap for a two or three set win? He plays a rested Federer tomorrow night.

My guess is that he'll go pretty hard for the win, at least in this set. We gonna see, no?

Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 03:55 PM

AB - what's the h2h? agree about the disappearing FH, but there has never been disappearing 'chase every ball,' like there was today. I mean, as I said up thread, I don't really blame him that much. It must be like playing a dead rubber on DC when your team has already lost.

Hmm...I vote for Pirate Nole w/3 Noses. Just in keeping w/alien invasion week. Now can he keep HIS focus so that he doesn't get taken to 3? And will Andys professional pride kick in and force it to 3 just for the hail of it.

Guess not.

Posted by AB 11/26/2010 at 03:58 PM

I'm RAndy, I'm going to pump myself up and swing more freely so I go out with a "W."

I'm Nole, I'm going to let my mind wander and try lots of different shots making RAndy run back and forth way behind the baseline.

Oh wait, I'm already doing that.

Posted by Crazy-for-Rog 11/26/2010 at 03:58 PM

Regarding Murray's comments expressing his doubts about whether he can beat Nadal in the semis ... IMO, it was his own way of responding to the critics who have been questioning his big-match mettle. The British media were all over him at his "capitulation" against Federer here in O2, and it was suggested that he didn't have what it takes to beat the big players on the biggest stages.

Here's what Murray posted on twitter hours after the comments were made public:
"If sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, why don't smart people get it? Or are they smart?"

Posted by Crazy-for-Rog 11/26/2010 at 03:58 PM

Regarding Murray's comments expressing his doubts about whether he can beat Nadal in the semis ... IMO, it was his own way of responding to the critics who have been questioning his big-match mettle. The British media were all over him at his "capitulation" against Federer here in O2, and it was suggested that he didn't have what it takes to beat the big players on the biggest stages.

Here's what Murray posted on twitter hours after the comments were made public:
"If sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, why don't smart people get it? Or are they smart?"

Posted by Ausiemarg,Madame President,Rafa London Is Calling! 11/26/2010 at 04:00 PM

Great change of direction of shots Novak

Just great to watch

Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 04:02 PM

So the Roddick/Novak h2h is 5/2 in Roddick's favor. Seems clear he DOES know how to beat him. Just not today.

Crazy-for-Rog...well that's nice...like I said up thread, I am all for issuing the players giant placards with words like 'sarcasm' or 'rather not say' or 'what do you think, idiot?!?' for waving at the press to help them 'get' it.

Posted by AB 11/26/2010 at 04:02 PM

Hey, is Roger sitting in RAndy's box cheering for him to take it to 3?

Posted by Lynne (Rafalite) 11/26/2010 at 04:04 PM

I'm just wondering if Andy is feeling OK ...

Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 04:04 PM

So Andy is foot sore..or just sore in general?

Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 04:04 PM

AB - really? Someone saw Fed and Mirka shopping - what else - at Harrods. Maybe he is scouting?

Posted by AB 11/26/2010 at 04:06 PM

No, I'm just joking. This match has not been compelling.

Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 04:06 PM

Lynne - my post, that jumped about 15 minutes...about Andy being foot sore..the comms were saying he kept looking at his foot.

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 04:06 PM

Honestly, I've pretty much seen every single one of Andy's matches ever and this is pretty poor performance so perhaps there is something wrong, physically and/or mentally...losing to Rafa was a huge letdown for him..

Posted by izidane-It's t-shirt tyyyyyyyyyme! Nole face/hawk shirt on. 11/26/2010 at 04:09 PM

Dare I hope, Nole's FH seems to be back..no loopy crap coming from his side.
And as much as Andy hated BG, at least he had the so-called 'fear-hand' working.
Andy with a droppah! Yay, for one thing that's working

Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 04:09 PM

AB - aw, darn...that would have been very er, cool? Speaking of Fed, ****cough, cough**

I really like this pic a Fed fan got of him at practice...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mariannebevis/5209059008/in/set-72157625471151592/


Commies saying something is "clearly bothering" Roddick. Maybe HE should be wearing the eyepatch.

Posted by Ausiemarg,Madame President,Rafa London Is Calling! 11/26/2010 at 04:09 PM

Heather I think losing to Tomas was worse in ways.

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 04:11 PM

Probably so, AM....he's had a bunch of terrible losses this year and yes he's been injured and sick but at the end of the day despite it all he still managed to remain in the top 10 and qualify at all so I guess that's a plus.

He needs to head back to TX and find a psychologist asap.

Posted by AB 11/26/2010 at 04:14 PM

Agree, AM: RAndy beat Tomas 3 times this year, 4 in a row and was 6-2 v Tomas.

He did not expect to lose that one in straights.

Posted by CL 11/26/2010 at 04:14 PM

I think the Rafa/Tomas losses made up an especially tough double wammy. And the thing is, in a non-round robin format, you lose, you go home, you deal with it and move on. Here, you get to stay and relive stuff over and over.

If Andy does have any physical problem, I doubt very much we will here about it in his presser. A.) he rarely talks about that stuff in post match pressers anyway, but also, b.) given his comments about Novak's various physical issues, wouldn't be politic.

Posted by wilson75 11/26/2010 at 04:14 PM

If I'm Andy Roddick, after this tournament I have to do some soul-searching. In the last 3 weeks, he has lost to the top six players.

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 04:17 PM

Do Lief and Jimmy really have to bring up Mardy "I lost a ton of weight and stopped eating burgers" Fish?

Posted by wilson75 11/26/2010 at 04:18 PM

I should add the top 6 players excluding Murray.

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 04:18 PM

Do Lief and Jimmy really have to bring up Mardy "I lost a ton of weight and stopped eating burgers" Fish?

Posted by Ausiemarg,Madame President,Rafa London Is Calling! 11/26/2010 at 04:18 PM

Heather I think Andy making this tournament with the year he has had overall has been great.Always take the positives ok.Thats what I also try to do.

Posted by Ausiemarg,Madame President,Rafa London Is Calling! 11/26/2010 at 04:20 PM

Well done Novak good aggressive play tonight

Bad luck Andy.Go have a well earned rest.

Posted by izidane-It's t-shirt tyyyyyyyyyme! Nole face/hawk shirt on. 11/26/2010 at 04:20 PM

A little less dramatic than I thought it would be. Great serving from Nole.
Congrats to fellow Nole fans and commies to fellow Andy fans.

Posted by Heather 11/26/2010 at 04:21 PM

Thanks, AM, Vamos Rafa and all that jazz for you! :)

Posted by Lynne (Rafalite) 11/26/2010 at 04:21 PM

CL : I get it, it was on "mute" at the time.

Congrats to Nole and fans - Sorry, Andy and fans.

Posted by AB 11/26/2010 at 04:24 PM

Congrats to Novak, commies to RAndy.

I think from what I've seen so far, the tournament venue has been least beneficial to:

* Ferrer
* Roddick
* Nadal

Most beneficial to:

* Berdych
* Soderling
* Murray

Neutral:

* Federer
* Djokovic

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