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One More Roar? 11/05/2010 - 10:02 AM

53460934 by Pete Bodo

By now, I assume most of you have read the home page exclusive on the plans to launch a competitor to the Davis Cup—a plan that's been 10 years in the making (in the mind of Mike Davies), and may become a reality as early as 2013 if Butch Buchholz, that old lion of tennis politics and promotion, has anything to do with it. Which he does. Buchholz, who's stepped down as the promoter of the Key Biscayne event he created, must feel like he has one more resounding roar to deliver.

Actually, the roles (and intertwined fates) of the two point men in this "World Cup of Tennis" (my phrase; as of yet, there is no official name for this international, nations-based competition), Mike Davis and Butch Buchholz, bear noting. Whatever you think of this full frontal assault on the ITF's Davis Cup—a competition that I and many others really do hold dear—one thing can't be denied: Davies and Buchholz are tennis men, through and through.

We're not talking about a couple of guys who, say, made a fortune during the mortgage crisis and now want to get their faces on ESPN or NBC. Both of them are entrepreneurial tennis insiders, and each one paid his dues and helped drag tennis kicking and screaming into the Open Era. They are not just FRL (Friends of Rod Laver), but also godfathers to the likes of Steffi Graf, Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi, Chris Evert, Rafael Nadal, Martina Navratilova and Roger Federer.

Davies, now in his late 70s, is a former British No. 1, a past doubles finalist at Wimbledon and a Davis Cup player who accumulated a 24-13 record. He's also the guy whom you have to thank for the optic yellow tennis ball. He didn't invent it, but he made sure it was used when he served as the executive director of what was certainly the most "professional"—and probably the most promising—of the early attempts to organize the pro game, World Championship Tennis.

There are still those (and I'm one of them) who feel that tennis might be better off today had WCT not been killed off by, basically, a conspiracy among competitors who feared that Lamar Hunt (who conceived WCT) would grow too powerful and make of tennis something like he created when he helped found the American Football League (which eventually merged with its rival to create today's not-exactly-struggling NFL).

Nothing like the fear of success, right?

Oh, did I mention that Davies is also a former executive director of the ATP? And, ironically, let's remember that as the ITF's General Manager in the 1980s, Davies utterly revitalized...the Davis Cup.

Buchholz, like Davies, is a blooded veteran of the tennis wars, and he emerged one of the big winners thanks to the tournament that he founded (Key Biscayne) and built into, arguably, the fifth most prestigious event on the calendar, behind the Grand Slams. Unless you've been living under a rock these past three decades, you know about Buchholz.

One anecdote that Butch told me when we spoke the other day remains vivid as I try to sort out how I feel about this potential challenge to Davis Cup. "Back in the 1960s, the ITF rejected the plea I and some others were making to allow professionals to play at all the major events, alongside the amateurs (before Open tennis, which began in 1968, only amateurs were allowed to play at the Grand Slam events). Then, in 1967, Herman David, the chairman of the All England Club (Wimbledon), said, 'I'll let you come back and play here as professionals if you show me that you can fill the stadium. If you show me that the public still cares about Rod Laver and the rest of you."

Buchholz and company took up the offer, organized a pro tournament that was held at Wimbledon (I think it featured an eight-man field), and packed the house. "After that," Buchholz remembered, "It was a done deal. David said he didn't care what the ITF said or did, we would be welcome at WImbledon."

Perhaps the ITF has to undergo a similar crisis when it comes to Davis Cup, although it's important to remember that we're not just talking about allowing people to play here—we're talking about profoundly altering the format of a century-old event that has produced some of tennis's most storied moments—right up to the present day.

Perhaps, in an ever-shrinking world populated by tennis players who essentially become international citizens the moment they begin to achieve noteworthy success, that wonderful choice-of-ground rule isn't quite as important as it once was. Maybe in the arena-era, the idea that site selection produces an exotic and compelling background is more nostalgia and wishful thinking than reality. Will the arena used for the final in Belgrade in a few weeks time really feel like a piece of Serbia in any regard other than the preponderance of Serbs in attendance?

Buchholz told me that his shadow Davis Cup has great potential as a television spectacle; the ITF president, Francesco Ricci Bitti, told me that his job isn't to make money for the ITF, it's to grow the game in the 204 member nations of the ITF, and that those constituents really like the present template. They feel it's the one that would give the largest number of them a shot at Davis Cup glory. It's pretty hard to dismiss that mandate as unworthy or irrelevant. And in all honesty, I don't hear many voices in Europe or South America demanding that Davis Cup be "fixed." As far as I know, they don't think it's broken.

I'll have to mull over all these questions in the coming days, maybe share some of the ideas and learn what y'all think. The one thing I know for now is that Davies, Buchholz, and their "reformer" allies (a cast of characters that includes Cliff Drysdale, as well as the brothers McEnroe) are neither gung-ho revolutionaries nor mercenaries. They are, quite simply, tennis guys. And it would be unwise as well as unfair to characterize them as anything but fellow travelers in the great, ongoing pro tennis journey.


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Posted by just horsen 11/05/2010 at 10:23 AM

1st!

*now off to read the post*

Posted by just horsen 11/05/2010 at 10:26 AM

I really like their ideas. Davis Cup is great but it could be a whole lot better, and I think what these guys have in mind would do that.

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/05/2010 at 10:46 AM

good morning Pete. My first reaction? This is a terrible idea. Why dilute the Davis Cup by putting up a direct competitor? DC will suffer and it's the most prestigious of the team competitions. Why does Buckholz want to do that? Why not improve DC instead?

Posted by Lynne (Rafalite) 11/05/2010 at 10:53 AM

Oh, no ! I love DC the way it is and don't want it to have any competition. Is this just change for change's sake ? I hope not.

Posted by Master Ace 11/05/2010 at 10:58 AM

Speaking of Fed Cup, the draw will be done today. Action will start at 4 PM on Saturday and Sunday - LIVE on Tennis Channel

Tomorrow matches SHOULD be the following but the draw will determine order:

Bethanie Mattek-Sands vs Flavia Pennetta
Melanie Oudin vs Francesca Schiavone

Wonder if Melanie's back is healed efficiently so she can play but not, Coco Vandeweghe is there who has played well since the start of USO Series.

Posted by Ross (FOE, even Gael) 11/05/2010 at 11:10 AM

'...maybe share some of the ideas...."
That would be a good start, Pete.

Posted by karin1492 11/05/2010 at 11:13 AM

I think it's good. Davis Cup, and Fed Cup, needs to change. I love the idea of a mixed competition with both women and men competing for a nation. There's something to be said of keeping with traditions, but when the game is far more physical and they have the Davis Cup matches scheduled at awkward times, it's too much to ask of some of the top players to play 4,5,6,or 7 best of 5 set matches and then turn around and play an emotional event the next week. Everyone agrees there needs to be changes, but no one is willing to make a change. Maybe this will be the kick in pants to make the ITF change, or maybe not. I hope this succeeds.

Posted by wilson75 11/05/2010 at 11:17 AM

What karin1492 said. Let's hope ITF sees the light.

Posted by Kwaku 11/05/2010 at 11:37 AM

My first reaction: any serious attempt at improving the relevance of tennis as a global sport is welcome and has lots of room for achievement.

Even if I may like Davis Cup exactly as it is (which I'm not so sure of), I also want the rest of the world to like it. And much of the rest of the world doesn't mind tennis too much.

Posted by manuelsantanafan 11/05/2010 at 12:10 PM

Davis Cup ain't going anywhere and Buckwheat and Co. know that.

Buckwheat and Co. may convince the ITF to allow this new group to run part of the latter stages of Davis Cup and change the format somewhat, but Buckwheat and Co. will be paying for the privilege.

Maybe, letting Buckwheat in will result in multiple wins for the sport, its fans, the players, and Buckwheat, etc.

Only time will tell.

Supposedly, tennis players are required to play too much. Having competing international tournaments doesn't appear to address this alleged problem.

Currently, Davis Cup involves over a hundred nations every year, at some level.

From what I've read, Buckwheat's plan doesn't call running competitions analogous to the lower levels of Davis Cup in which many of the weaker tennis nations compete annually.

No way is tennis better off eliminating Davis Cup at all levels and replacing the current system with Buckwheat's formula.

Maybe, Buckwheat and the ITF reach an accommodation. Maybe not.

Maybe, if there is an accommodation, we'll see competing international competitions for a year or two. Maybe not.

But, the resolution of this matter will not result in the end of the Davis Cup or the ITF's involvement in this competition.

Posted by D Blaze 11/05/2010 at 12:50 PM

I really like the mixed gender idea and the seven match rubber instead of 5 matches (both things that you didn't discuss here, but I believe were in the other post on this issue.) Frankly, while I respect Ricci Bitti's intention with the grassroots movement thing, getting high profile tennis events on TV that are interesting is a great way to grow the sport. The lack of a host nation only applies to the top 4 nations that make the final so why would this be terrible for the little nations anyway?

To play the Devil's Advocate, I know a couple guys who played African Davis Cup. One of them got to play a young Novak Djokovic and lost 6-4 6-0 6-4. I know he's pretty proud of taking 8 games off a Grand Slam winner. Another started for Kenya for years and years and had good results. These guys might not like the idea of DC being played every other year because I think DC is one of the major reasons these countries that don't have a lot of resources invest in training them. Cutting the number of ties in half will make Kenya and Zimbabwe care less about producing NTRP 6.0-6.5 level players to stay competitive. Both of these guys made it to the US and make a good living as teaching professionals now, which is how I know them. The Davis Cup may have done a lot for their lives. I guess I'm torn. The entertainment value is clearly better in this new system but maybe Ricci Bitti was right about the current DC beign better for the game of tennis. Sigh...

Posted by D Blaze 11/05/2010 at 12:53 PM

@manuelsantanafan

This formula would reduce the problem of too much international DC competition because in the final 4, the top players would all get together and play at the same time, in the same place. I think they would leave the teams outside of the world group to more or less keep doing what they were doing. This is really just a plan to reform the top tier of DC competition. As I noted above though, moving the Cup from every year to every other year has its consequences.

Posted by Yolita 11/05/2010 at 12:54 PM

I absolutely agree with Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature), who wrote the following:

"good morning Pete. My first reaction? This is a terrible idea. Why dilute the Davis Cup by putting up a direct competitor? DC will suffer and it's the most prestigious of the team competitions. Why does Buckholz want to do that? Why not improve DC instead?"

I wonder what Buckholz real reasons are.

But Davis Cup involves so many nations, and it's taken so seriously by so many players and fans, that I don't think this plan will be successful at all. I don't even think that Davis Cup will suffer.

Posted by Yama 11/05/2010 at 01:08 PM

My reaction: it looks like a great idea...until the inevitable happens: wrong teams make it to final. Interest in big tennis countries (most notably, USA) is killed, big audience doesn't want to see bunch of "foreign no-name players" squaring it out. And there goes the "Davies Cup".

Because that's the whole point why Davis Cup needs to be fixed, right? Not enough marquee players in the end stages? Why would this alternative cup do any better?

I mean, if the whole point - as it seems - is simply to have Federer and Nadal square it out in the final tie, why simply just not hold Federer-Nadal exhibition match? At least there nothing can go wrong. No need to contrived systems to "guarantee" that top players are available, as inevitably they won't be.

Posted by tina (ajde, Novak: handsome and talented Balkans #1, world #3, Davis Cup hero, AO 2008 titleist, reigning USO finalist, cutest butt in tennis, rapper, the face of Belgrade t-shirts, Novak water and Restaurant - don't u wish your polyglot was hott like me) 11/05/2010 at 01:10 PM

I'm at the end of the world, but with my minimal internet access, I must say that I love Davis Cup as it is, don't care if Americans don't appreciate it, and really don't care if Buchholz throws his weight behind it, certainly don't care one bit about the "television spectacle" aspect.

Does this photo give a hint that Fed would deign to participate? Cos heaven knows, I care about that least. All these years with Fed being called the you-know-what, and Switzerland can't win the Davis Cup?

Napred, Srbija!

Posted by Master Ace 11/05/2010 at 01:14 PM

Roddick vs Nalbandian from Basel

http://www.fromsport.com/v-0/8/192/v-99227.html

Nick Lester and Robbie Koenig doing the commentary

Mohamed Layhani is the chair umpire

David serving to begin the match

Posted by Heather 11/05/2010 at 01:18 PM

C'mon Andy!

Posted by yello fuzzy 11/05/2010 at 01:19 PM

Master Ace
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!
TTC is showing a taped delayed Davydenko vs Simon instead of the live match between Roddick and Nalbandian

or has someone griped about this already?

Posted by skip1515 11/05/2010 at 01:20 PM

I am of the firm opinion that there's far more that is right about the Davis Cup as it now stands than is wrong. Pete's point that one doesn't hear calls for change from South America or Europe speaks to that directly.

As I see it the biggest obstacle to Davis Cup grabbing more of the public's attention is the scheduling, particularly the overlapping DC seasons. On the other hand, the home/away format and number of countries competing are huge contributions to the success of DC around the world (the USA is a big exception) and should not be cast aside.

I am not against any changes in the Davis Cup, and definitely not being nostalgic for a time that will never come again. What I am focused on are the fabulous and unique characteristics of Davis Cup that are prime ingredients in any number of great matches throughout the year. Yes, many of these matches fly under the international sporting press's radar, but so what? They *do* succeed in promoting tennis in countries that see no professional tennis otherwise, and give both their native players and LTA's a legitimate shot at a big stage.

Those are all Davis Cup characteristics that should be prized and protected.

And btw, I'll add to Pete's history of Davies and Buchholz by adding that Buchholz was a top professional player, too, having won the boys' singles at Wimbledon, Roland Garros and Australia in his junior days.

Posted by Master Ace 11/05/2010 at 01:21 PM

Yello Fuzzy,
Basel was supposed to be on from 9 to 1 on TTC followed by Valencia. Also, ESPN3 should be covering this match.

Posted by Master Ace 11/05/2010 at 01:23 PM

40-40 David FH long - David challenges but to no avail
A-40 Roddick BH wide after David approaches net on I/O FH
40-40 David BH long after Andy runs around BH to hit FH return
A-40 David volley winner coming forward behind serve
David holds as he aces wide

Andy to serve 1-2

Posted by Kristy 11/05/2010 at 01:31 PM

Whaaat? I thought Andy-Nalby was tonight.

Come on, Andy! (Hi, Heather!)

Posted by Heather 11/05/2010 at 01:32 PM

Hi Kristy! How are ya?

Posted by Master Ace 11/05/2010 at 01:32 PM

30-40 for Andy as David nets FH
Andy breaks as David BH sails long

Andy to serve 3-2

Posted by Colette 11/05/2010 at 01:34 PM

I imagine Yonex is hoping Nalbandian will do will. They sure took a hit with Elena's retirement. :)

Go Andy, too.

Posted by Colette 11/05/2010 at 01:35 PM

2nd will = well

Posted by Kristy 11/05/2010 at 01:36 PM

I'm really out of it, Heather. Bad sleeps lately -- hope I don't make giant mistakes proofreading today. How are you?

Hi TW -- I miss the CC action. Bring on the AO!

Posted by Heather 11/05/2010 at 01:38 PM

I'm sorry, Kristy, hopefully you can catch up on good sleep over the weekend! I'm well, work's been crazy but I have the day off today and finally get to watch tennis for the first time in forever! Hopefully Andy pulls out a win! :)

Posted by Yama 11/05/2010 at 01:38 PM

DC does have a bit of a scheduling issue...I think at least the finalists should be granted a bye or something in the first round. After playing a final in December, it's pretty hard to get motivated to play first round again within couple of months.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 01:38 PM

Good Morning Everyone,

Is there a link to this match at all pls?

Posted by Kristy 11/05/2010 at 01:38 PM

Omg, Nalby is drenched in sweat - AO-level sweat.

Posted by Kristy 11/05/2010 at 01:39 PM

http://www.fromsport.com/v-0/8/192/v-99227.html

Here's a good one, AM. Hi!

Posted by izidane 11/05/2010 at 01:41 PM

Nice going from Andy so far.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 01:45 PM

Kristy Hi back thanks for the link and I spelt your name right I think lol!

Posted by Kristy 11/05/2010 at 01:45 PM

Heather, how nice to have the day off for Andy's match. He looks good, seems confident. Hope it lasts.

Posted by Heather 11/05/2010 at 01:50 PM

I know Kristy, although that was not the reason for the day off. The reason for the day off is that I am in desperate need of retail therapy! :) He's looking pretty determined, he clearly wants to qualify for the WTF.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 01:52 PM

great serving by Andy to take the 1st set 6-4

I dont like the pinky salmon colour of this outer court

Ahhh Robbie is in commentary

Posted by Colette 11/05/2010 at 01:52 PM

What does Andy have to do to lock in the WTF?

Posted by Master Ace 11/05/2010 at 01:52 PM

Andy closes out the set 6-4 with an ace at the T. One loose game by David and that was the set.

Posted by Colette 11/05/2010 at 01:53 PM

I guess it may depend on what "others" do, too.

Posted by Heather 11/05/2010 at 01:54 PM

AM, I'm not a fan of the color of the courts either, I keep losing the ball, I guess I could blame it on the live stream.

Posted by Heather 11/05/2010 at 01:56 PM

Nalby really needs to change his shirt...

Posted by crazycaro21 11/05/2010 at 01:56 PM

An alternative to Davis and Fed Cups, and as (yet another) mixed event? Oh, no! Please, no! I like Davis Cup the way it is, although it would benefit a change in scheduling. But it would be awful to see this tournament disappear.

Kristy (1:38): LOL I can just SO see Nalby right now, in his red shirt, completely drenched. Not the most appealing image, but a normal one. He does sweat a lot. It was awful at the end of his match yesterday, for instance. But I can't see the match right now. Then again, I root for the Argentine, who's one of my fav players.

Posted by Colette 11/05/2010 at 01:56 PM

This court is easier to see than the blue in Valencia. Heather, do you get ESPN3? Stream there is a little better.

Posted by Slice-n-Dice 11/05/2010 at 01:57 PM

I've spoken and written about my "modest proposal" for fixing the calendar, including Davis Cup, for many years now, and my plan is (if I've got it right) much more closely aligned with Buchholz's plan that it is with the current format. So I won't say more about it now.

What I will say is that while wwe often harp about marqueee players like Federer and Sampras and Agassi before him, and Connors before them, failing to commit fully to Davis Cup, I think we might be missing an important point. All these players (save for Connors), kept coming back to it when they felt their schedules and health and other priorities allowed. To me, this says that while they might not all agree with the format, and many may wish to change it (as do Buchholz and I), they clearly recognize its inherent value and significance. Otherwise, saying "No, thanks" would have been their default response and we'd have missed out on some fine displays, like Sampras' 1995 heroics.

So I think that the top players' gripes about the scheduling of the Davis Cup ties in accordance with the current format has some merit, and must be considered seriously. And I think that is one of the reasons that Buchholz has decided to step up to the plate and take a cut at it. After all, you on't play tournament director and promoter of the world's next-biggest event outside of the majors and NOT have some sense of what the players are saying and feeling.

Posted by jb (chocolate FTW!!!) 11/05/2010 at 01:57 PM

er - OT, but has anyone heard rafa's out of bercy? confirmation? anyone?

Posted by Kristy 11/05/2010 at 01:58 PM

Yes AM, you spelled my name perfectly. (:

Andy looks pumped. I am liking his energy. Can't really watch though. ):

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 01:58 PM

Ok Robbie enough about The Fish thank you

Posted by Heather 11/05/2010 at 01:58 PM

Colette, yeah that's what I'm watching it on but my stream just seems a bit blurry, I'm going to try to adjust the settings and see what happens.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 02:00 PM

JB I was on Rafa's site last night my time no mention of it then

Let me check my other sources

Posted by Colette 11/05/2010 at 02:02 PM

Contrary to the other streams, ESPN3 seems to be less "fuzzy" on full-screen. The more I look, seems like Nalby's shirt is just made from shiny material?? Seems to "uniform" to be sweat.

Posted by Heather 11/05/2010 at 02:04 PM

Andy with the break! :) Keep the jinxing down please Nick Lester, there's lots of tennis left.

Posted by deeps 11/05/2010 at 02:05 PM

The Paris twitter said that Rafa is out. They are doing the draw right now.

http://twitter.com/bnppmasters

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 02:08 PM

Deeps I just saw that too

There is nothing current on his website

Still checking

Posted by crazycaro21 11/05/2010 at 02:12 PM

ATP site seems down. Live Scores don't work. Anyone can tell the score of the Andy - Nalby match, please?

Posted by sisu 11/05/2010 at 02:17 PM

My commentators saying Rafa out of Bercy.

6/4, 4/2 AndyR leads. David serving 30/15.

Posted by jb (chocolate FTW!!!) 11/05/2010 at 02:18 PM

crazycaro21 - 2nd set - roddick to serve, at 4 - 3. daveed just not quite firing on all cylinders. roddick serving beautiful, great variation and defending well. bh working a treat.

Posted by crazycaro21 11/05/2010 at 02:21 PM

jb, sisu: Thanks for the update. ATP site worked a little, now back at being down.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 02:21 PM

Just went to official site at Bercy

I know Tsonga is out and they have given w/cards out

Still checking

Posted by Kristy 11/05/2010 at 02:23 PM

Do not mount a comeback, David.

Posted by sisu 11/05/2010 at 02:25 PM

Sorry you're having those problems CC21.

Andy will be serving for the match now at 5/4.

Fingers crossed. ;)) Like both these guys but want AndyR at WTF.

Posted by sd 11/05/2010 at 02:25 PM

"Still checking"

no need to check, he's out of Paris

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 02:26 PM

Rafa's face book yesterday said I will travel to Bercy for the last Masters that message was at 4.48

Posted by imjimmy 11/05/2010 at 02:26 PM

wow! Is Nadal down with knee problems again?

Gotta say, I can't blame him. For the rest of his career, his objective should ONLY be the slams and (to a lesser extent) #1 at the end of the year.

Seems like a good move considering 2011 IMO.

Posted by deeps 11/05/2010 at 02:26 PM

This has to be one of the weirdest withdrawals yet. He took a wildcard to doubles, was seen practising and talked about going to Paris on facebook yesterday. And there seems to be no official announcement or explanation except for Bercy on twitter saying he is out. I know the consensus is he is saving himself up for WTF but there has to be more.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 02:27 PM

I know he is out I just wanted more info

Imjimmy can you find any news on Rafa pls?

Posted by Kristy 11/05/2010 at 02:27 PM

Match point!

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 02:28 PM

deeps Exactly I have just been reading Face Book etc

Unless there was a problem

Posted by Kristy 11/05/2010 at 02:28 PM

Yay!!! Andy does it. Into the semi-finals.

Posted by sisu 11/05/2010 at 02:29 PM

Yes!!! Happy for Kristy and Heather and so many other AndyR fans. He played beautifully!!

Sorry to see David out.

Posted by sblily (Wheeeeeeee!/We gonna see, no?) 11/05/2010 at 02:29 PM

AM - ??? What's to check? They already did the draw in Paris and Rafa's name wasn't in it.

Posted by Heather 11/05/2010 at 02:29 PM

Yay! :) Now Andy will be awaiting Roger...yikes, could be the first time they play since the Wimbledon final....someone hold me! haha!

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 02:29 PM

Congrats to Andy

Congrats to Heather and Kristy too

Bad luck David too many u/errors

Great serving Andy

Posted by Heather 11/05/2010 at 02:30 PM

Thanks everyone! Sorry to hear about Rafa withdrawing, maybe he's spending time with Lil' Wayne?

Posted by imjimmy 11/05/2010 at 02:30 PM

Hey Deeps! Good to see you after a loong time. How's it going?

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 02:31 PM

sblily I just want to know the problem I was on his site and face book and there wasnt a hint of anything thats all

Posted by izidane 11/05/2010 at 02:31 PM

Fab day for this fan, both Andy and Nole have solid wins.

Commies to Daveed fans.

Posted by Arun 11/05/2010 at 02:31 PM

Uhm. Don't know if it's a knee problem.
This is what tennisconnected says: http://bit.ly/98v6DN

Posted by crazycaro21 11/05/2010 at 02:31 PM

sisu: It came back. Bummer for Nalby. :( (Coming from a Nalby fan.)

Söderling cruising against Monfils in Valencia. Gooooood!

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 02:31 PM

Heather LOL!

Posted by Kristy 11/05/2010 at 02:32 PM

Thanks, you guys! Commies, crazycaro and other Nalby fans.

Posted by deeps 11/05/2010 at 02:33 PM

Hey imjimmy,
Its going great. Been pretty busy so usually lurking. How's it going for you?

Posted by Kristy 11/05/2010 at 02:33 PM

Heather, do you know who Andy plays next?

Posted by imjimmy 11/05/2010 at 02:35 PM

I am fine, deeps. Can't come here as much as I used to do before.

Gotta say it's GREAT to see you back. I missed your comments. You should've been here when Nadal won F.O/Wimb/UsOpen :) Hopefully some other old timers will come back too..

Posted by crazycaro21 11/05/2010 at 02:36 PM

And congrats to Roddick fans. Nice to see him back in shape. If him and the other David (Ferrer) could book for London, now.

Kristy: Federer or Stepanek next for AR.

Posted by deeps 11/05/2010 at 02:36 PM

Arun,
Thanks for the Tennis Connected link.

Now that I have an official reason to satisfy my curiosity, its a smart move on his part. Let him concentrate on 2011. And give me hope for his schedule in 2011.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 02:36 PM

Arun Thanks for that link? fatique? lol!

Well all that rushing around in India in regards to his foundation I guess

Also playing all 3 Asia tournaments? Hmmmmm

Well he is learnt a lesson

Oh well onwards to the Masters in London then

Posted by Heather 11/05/2010 at 02:37 PM

Kristy, he either plays Roger or Stepanek.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 02:38 PM

Deeps Curiosity Kills Cats lol!

Good to see you here

Posted by Arun 11/05/2010 at 02:40 PM

deeps, AM: I hope he will be okay. It could just be like that "Skip Barca but win the biggies!" move from earlier this year. It worked out quite well for him, no? Maybe at this point he just thinks that winning the YEC is the higher priority than Paris Masters. I hope that's the case.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 02:41 PM

I cant stand the colour of these courts

Whoever chose the colour should be shot

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 02:44 PM

Arun Doing well in London has been his no 1 wish he said for the rest of this season

So I think in hindsight and its only faatique and not you know what? lol!

That was my first concern

I think its the right move.The surface in Bercy is synthetic too not my cup of tea.

I didnt want him to play 3 Asia tournaments to begin with.Anyway we shall see.

Posted by imjimmy 11/05/2010 at 02:45 PM

""It could just be like that "Skip Barca but win the biggies!" move from earlier this year. It worked out quite well for him, no? ""

Arun: I don't think Nadal is changing much in the way of scheduling. He's confirmed that he will play Barcelona , Rotterdam and Abu Dhabi in 2011. In fact he might play 4 out of 5 weeks in the clay season in 2011.

It seems to me that Nadal withdraws only when he's forced to do so with an injury. He skipped Barca 2010 to get the PRP knee treatment and in Rotterdam again he was injured. So the withdrawals seem more out of necessity than prudence or schedule rationalization. Luckily this year it worked well for him..

Posted by wilson75 11/05/2010 at 02:45 PM

AM: Is this the first time you've watched Basel? That's been the colour of courts for years. Actually the court's colour used to be the same as the outer border, this year they've changed it to purple.

Posted by deeps 11/05/2010 at 02:46 PM

imjimmy, AM: Thanks. Its nice to be remebered. I really wish I had been here during that time. It would have helped with all the nail biting. :)

Arun, According to Drew Lilley, there is an undisclosed injury which he is having examined.

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/05/2010 at 02:48 PM

Arun: I was thinking that it could be something as simple as waking up with a virus or a fever. He hasn't really taken any time off since Shanghai. He went to India, played in charity golf events, just picked up some award from the Real Madrid Foundation. All that travelling by plane and shaking hands and being in crowds. And considering his off season is pretty much non-existent. He's got the two exos in December and then Abu Dhabi over New Year's. If he's going to get any rest it would be now.
I certainly would understand if he's tired or sick. All I care about is London and he seems to be very psyched up for the WTF's. Besides the Bercy tourney is meh anyway.

Posted by Aussiemarg,Madame President,Dear Wayne is Free,VamosWayne 11/05/2010 at 02:49 PM

imjimmy I read that too for next year Idoit???

Deeps LOL! shame it was a great period.The USO I still play match point it hasnt sunk in yet lol!

Posted by wilson75 11/05/2010 at 02:49 PM

re. Rafa withdrawing from Paris. I think it's a good idea since after WTF he doesn't really have an off-season to speak of. Better to take the time off now so he will be fresh for WTF and the beginning of next year.

Posted by deeps 11/05/2010 at 02:50 PM

imjimmy,

I don't think he has committed to either Rotterdam or Dubai.

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 11/05/2010 at 02:50 PM

Oh great, and an undisclosed injury. wonderful. *screams silently*

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