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Book Club: Federer's Progenitor
Posted 02/15/2007 @ 4 :19 PM

This week, TENNIS.com editor Kamakshi Tandon and I are discussing John Newcombe's Bedside Tennis, a collection of anecdotes and observations by the legendary Aussie player published in 1983.

2007_02_12_bedsidetennis_blogHi Kamakshi,

First, I hope the weather is better in San Jose than it is in NYC. You picked a good week to split. There was a fairly big snowstorm here, though not quite what was anticipated—another case of American weather hysteria. When did that start, exactly? It is cold, finally; as they say on the evening news, the northeast has been “gripped” by it.

You took me by surprise with some heavy stuff there at the end of your last post, about how the players could be in danger of giving some hard-won power back to the powers-that-be. It’s true, the 1973 Wimbledon boycott over the suspension of one player was a watershed. You could say it was the real birth of the pro era, which typically gets dated to 1968. And the ability of the players not to have their livelihoods messed with by the governing organizations has defined the pro era, the same way free agency has defined modern baseball (for better and worse); hopefully today’s players will never take that for granted. Suspending a Federer or Nadal or Roddick seems pretty self-defeating anyway: Is the best answer to a player’s absence to keep them absent longer? The only losers there are the fans.

How different were the players of Newk’s era from today’s? You’re right, the early pro era maintained an amateur ethos, of tennis as an adventure rather than a job. It reminds me of rock and roll. The hippie-era rockers “went pro” around the same time. Believe it or not, Neil Young said he didn’t realize that being a “rock star” could be his lifelong job until around 1972 or ’73, at which point he’d been making records for about eight years. Similarly, in John McPhee’s 1968 book Levels of the Game, he describes Clark Graebner commuting from his finance job in Manhattan out to Forest Hills to play the U.S. Open.

That doesn’t mean the best players didn’t work as hard on their games, of course. It may have been that they just didn’t do it in such an organized, professionalized way. I really liked the opening of Newcombe’s book, where he describes his obsession with tennis as a kid, to the point where the backboard become his friend and opponent. The drills he describes doing there for hours on end convey the sort of lonely passion of many junior players. He never had to be told to go practice; it was his favorite thing to do, and that’s why he got as good as he did.

Permit me a personal digression regarding practice. I can hit a pretty nasty kick serve (you know, for a rec dude). I’m a lefty (like Bodo, Drucker, and you, oddly enough), so the ball bounces in a direction that no one expects when they first play me. The typical reaction from an opponent is to say something like, “Where did you get that?” as if it’s some kind of trick or a freak talent I was born with. Somebody recently said it must have been a “mistake” that I just stuck with. I answered, to myself, “If it’s a mistake, it took me about a thousand hours of practice to make it.” In other words, the things that most of us think of as natural talent, like Newcombe’s volleys or Federer’s return of serve, are really products of hard work, and that’s always been true in tennis.

OK, digression complete. Since everyone seems to have Federer on the brain at tennis.com (a.k.a, the Church of Sire Jacket), I’ll let Newk describe what it was like to play the Federer of his day, Rod Laver. It also serves as a telling comparison of tennis eras.

Five set matches were my forte, but when Laver and I got to the fifth set he had this ever rare ability to change gear and suddenly produce something extra and carry the day. We might get to 4-4, or 5-5, then he’d pull off a stroke that turned the match. I had my wins against him, in fact I was the last amateur to beat him before he turned professional in 1962. But if there is one contest that for me best illustrates the artistry of Rod Laver, it is a challenge match we played one night in Rochester, New York.

I was down two sets to love, won the next two sets and we reached 3-all in the fifth set. All night I had been coming in and hitting the first volley down to his backhand and he had countered this by trying to pass me or play lobs over my backhand side. That had been his game all night. We stood at 30-all in the seventh game. I came in and hit the ball to his backhand and moved in to the net. He drew back his racquet to play the lob shot, and as I saw this I began to shift my weight backwards to my left, expecting to have to run back for the lob. He went into the ball shaping to play it exactly the same way as he had been doing all night -- until he got to the ball. Then he turned the lob into a chip shot.

It wasn’t designed to go for a winner; what he was aiming for was to set himself up for the next shot. Now, as the ball came towards me, I couldn't play the shot I’d planned. My weight was still inclined backwards, so I couldn’t get it fully behind the volley; I’d have to play it just with the arm. The next problem I had to decide in about a millisecond was: Where do I hit it? Laver was at the back of the court. If I hit it back down the line to him, he could play his whipped topspin backhand across the court, and I wouldn’t be able to get over in time to cover it. If I played the ball across to his forehand, I couldn’t hit it hard enough; my weight wouldn't be in the shot and he’d be able to hit a forehand winner. There was a third option. If I hit down the middle, and kept it deep, I’d be able to recover, get back to the centre of the court and be in a good position to reply. I went for the deep shot down the middle and hit it out by about three inches.

When the volley went out, I applauded his previous shot. He had done it again. Suckered me in for three hours to expect a certain kind of play, then changed up to another gear and beat me. That was the magic of Rod Laver.

Now that’s tennis writing, wouldn’t you say? You pretty much have to be involved in a match to know that it turned, not on any winner or spectacular shot, but on the most subtle change of pace imaginable, which produced a routine volley error. If you had been watching and had seen Newk applaud, you probably would have had no idea what he was applauding for.

This is revealing not just of Laver’s tactical skill, but of the type of tennis these guys played in that era. I imagine this was a fast court, and that they served and volleyed on virtually every point for five sets. From Newk’s description, there were set patterns that reoccurred over the entire night—Newk comes in on Laver’s backhand, Laver does one of two things—until Laver changed his response just enough at the right moment to throw Newk off for one millisecond. There was no topspin crosscourt winner hit, no bludgeoned forehand into the corner. It was a subtle and much more limited game then—it might be called “small ball” in baseball jargon. Laver was the best at it, but it's next-to-impossible to profitably compare him to Sampras and Federer, who play in the “long ball” era.

Thanks for the insight, Newk, and thanks for giving me this book, Kamakshi. What book should we talk about next month? Think we could get through Infinite Jest by mid-March? Or is it time to discuss the collected works of one Dmitry Tursunov?

Steve

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Steve and Kamakshi -- Thanks so much for delving into and sharing the thoughts of that great Aussie, John Newcombe, who has for many many years called Texas home and who was always one of the most "game" of the gamers, always resady for the battle. A true warrior, to use Pete's motif.

I think what Newk desribed in his Rochester match with Laver was an example of a certain kind of higher intelligence that some of the greats bring to the game, and to their matches, at just the right moment. My friend in California calls this "dynamic intelligence" (a shout out here to LeRoy!), and I think there's something to it. It' that ability to spontaneously adjust or adapt to the changing circumstances and conditions, without forethought or planning of any kind. An instantaneous "decision" based on the sum of all the information (visual, historical, experiential and emotional, if you will) that has flooded and is flooding the mind up to and at that moment, and playing it as though it was the obvious thing to do, while leaving all else, including one's opponent, stunnned. Muhammad Ali did it to George Foreman in the Thrilla in Manilla, and I believe we saw Federer do it to Roddick at th Aussie Open. Particularly when he hit that bunt half-volley cross-court backhand drive on the dead run off of Roddick's huge forehand put-away.... the one where Rochie just rolled his eyes and gave that Mona Lisa smile.

I think Federer may be proving that "small ball" still works, at least when it is coupled with legitimate long ball skill.

It may have been tempting, for a while, to assume that the ability to simply hit the ball harder was everything. However, recently, I have seen plenty of junior matches where kids throw in a slice, and it throws off the timing of the opponents topspin drive, and the ball goes wide.

In the first set of the Murray Nadal match at the AO, Murray followed up six topspin shots in a row with a mid court slice, and Nadal cranked a backhand six feet wide.

It is still a game where timing matters. I think the Newk/Laver excerpt is still relevant today.

Well said, Slice-and-dice. That deep intelligence and instinct that great champions have is something to behold. They see patterns that other players simply do not.

Interesting that you mention Ali. Fed, like Ali, is incredibly amazing at transitioning from defense to offense. It happens in an instant and the opponent doesn't know what hit him. One of Ali's opponents talked about how you're going along with him thinking you've got him on the defensive when, before you know it, you're hit by about 10 or 12 super fast jabs that seemed to come out of nowhere and all of a sudden you're the one reeling back.

What about that great Ali thing where he seems to be leaning back from his opponent, almost retreating, seemingly in a vulnerable position, and yet launching offensive jabs. I've seen him do this over and over again. Almost as though he's tempting you to come in and try and hit him, suckering you in only to hit you that much better. Absolutely incredible. Fed does that with that nasty little short-ball slice and then he wallops you with a wicked passing shot. Great minds think alike, that's for sure.

I couldn't agree more with what both Slice-n-dice and DM have written.

Dunlop's comment first: Like every great player, Federer is having an effect on how the game's played. I'd disagree with Steve here about Laver and the boys playing small ball exclusively, though. Without a doubt it was a bigger part of the game then, and Federer, Murray and others are proving its value all over again, but I've been watching a dvd of a Laver v Borg exo match, and let me tell you, Laver knew the long ball, thank you very much.

I saw him so many times that I can remember many of those big shots, but getting to watch it again is comforting; my memory isn't rose tinted. Even in this match against Borg, when Laver was giving away 15+ years and they both knew the context wasn't Center Court at Wimbledon, you can see flashes of Rocket's brilliance, both short and long ball. And it's amazing.

About Slice-n-dice's post, just yesterday I showed a fellow at work the youTube video of Federer's running-across-the-baseline overhead, hit around the post, against Roddick from Basel in 2003 (I think). Doug said he got shivers watching it.

I told him I thought there's an IQ component that allows some players to conceptualize shots that others can't. Laver's chip and Federer's overhead pass are two examples.

Concept isn't everything, however. The beauty of Newk's comment is that he recognizes not just Laver's ability to see the shot's possibility, at the right moment, but Laver's ability to pull it off, too.

Lol! A mistake.... Good post, Steve. And I'm a lefty as well so I know the reactions you get. And what an interesting bit on Laver's tactics. I am still trying to find a similar tactic in Federer. Maybe I'm not watching close enough--though others who posted have been putting forth some interesting analysis on this.

Lol, Slice-n-dice, "the one where Rochie just rolled his eyes and gave that Mona Lisa smile."

Interesting stuff, Skip1515.

Nice post, Monterey. You really got me at great minds think alike.

From last post:
Happydancing, Federer is doing the 4R: Rest, Repair, Regroup, Retool (by Slice-n-dice). He'll be back in a couple of weeks!

Speaking of which, Slice-n-dice, I decided to check out your blog. Good stuff! Pity that it's getting so few comments. But hey, I'll check it out from time to time.

skip:

"just yesterday I showed a fellow at work the youTube video of Federer's running-across-the-baseline overhead"

do you have the youtube link for that?

Eddy, thanks for the nice comments and for givng my "4Rs" a little more air time. Rest, Repair, Regroup and Retool: that's the name of the game for any top player who wants to remain on top for very long.

Also, thanks for checking out my blog. Yeah, not many comments on it yet, but the good news is that I write/post mainly as a way to provide the discipline I need to finish what I start. It really helps me gather my thoughts and to work hard at the craft of making sense, being clear, and staying relevant. It's not easy, as I'm sure Steve and Pete will tell you. That's probably why I'm a major slacker, writing only when the urge gets too great to ignore. The 9 to 5 that pays the bills might also have something to do with it these days, though.

I'll be on the lookout for your insights!

mmy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hp-EArV6s8

Enjoy!

Ray

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!

no doubt federer has touch and can play small, but like i said in a post during the AO, he's also a very physical player, who can blast with the best, especially from the forehand side. he plays a different game in a different time than laver. before anything else these days, you have to have the athletic skills, the power, and the speed to match the other guys. tactics and touch come after that.

Too true.

I wish more players would write autobiographies on their life and matches on the tour and publish it; like the one Arthur Ashe wrote that consisted of his activities for a year. It included tactics versus various opponents, personal life, travel, hotel life, etc. It was great.... I wouldn't mind actually reading Newk's either, I guess. Judging from your quotes of the book, Steve, some pretty interesting stuff in there.

Steve wrote: Is it time to discuss the collected works of one Dmitry Tursunov?

YES.

Steve: this is a lovely post.

One of the things this brings out, for us 4.0-4.5 hackers, is the many levels of the game there are above us. We tend to think that the difference between us and the top pros is athletic and technical. Well, that's a good part of it - but the top pros know about patterns, tendencies and are acutely aware of the body language of their opponents.

Over 30 years ago I went to a live top English soccer game - Arsenal - Liverpool, League Cup semi-final. For the first time, I saw how the game was at that level was all about tiny feints and body movements by the players to create milliseconds of indecision on the part of their opponents, to buy the player in control of the ball a miniscule advantage in time to make the next play - a pass, shot or dribble.

Similarly, when I get tennis lessons from my coach, he'll sometimes pull me up after a point to chide me for missing a hint about what he was going to do next from the way he held his racquet, turned his shoulders, or gave some other (to me) imperciptible clue.

So, Newcombe's description of what it was like to be a great in the sport playing one of the all-time greats opens a small window into a part of the world most of us never see. Thanks.

Ray: re your 11:48pm link to the Roger-Andy Basel point.

Two things about Andy Roddick stand out. First, as the ball hit by Federer lands in, there's a very brief drop of the head and shoulders. I've seen him do this many times in his matches against Federer - see, for example, the second set 0-2 0-30 point where Federer hits a running backhand pass down the line. It's a "you got me" gesture that a Newcombe or Laver would be all over.

Second - he is a classy sportsman. He reacts to the point in the video with good humor and grace. Roddick has won fewer titles than he might have expected to after 2003, but he competes hard and respects his opponents. I have a lot of time for him.

I apologise for the length of this post, but Agassi's account of his USO Final 2005 against Federer mirrors Newcombe's article (I have extracted relevant parts).

"I certainly like my backhand to his backhand, or I certainly like that as a better option than his forehand. But, you know, with that being said, he hit an inside-out winner at 30-Love, 4-2 in the third set that found the line. He hit a few up the line. He hits that short chip, moves you forward, moves you back. He uses your pace against you. If you take pace off, so that he can't use your pace, he can step around and hurt you with the forehand. Just the amount of options he has to get around any particular stage of the match where maybe something's out of sync is -- seems to be endless. His success out there is just a mere reflection of all the things that he can do.

Well, he always elevates, you know, in tiebreakers. You'll always see that when he plays, he takes his chances. But I was using the kick serve effectively against the wind -- I mean, sorry, with the wind. In that particular stage, I was serving once in the tiebreak I was against the wind, and it was a second serve. You know, that's my point, I was safe for a long time out there just hitting a dumpy second serve to the backhand and getting into the point. Then at any point he can decide, "Well, I want to make you worry about that." He had the breeze on his back. He just stayed through that ball and hit it up the line. It was pretty much by me. You know, and then the next couple points, because he has -- you know he's going to step up, you have that little extra pressure to do a little bit more with the ball, to push it through the wind, and to get it deep because you don't want to leave anything hanging against him on either wing. And, you know, you make a couple errors because you're trying to play too good. And then just for good measure he did it at 6-1 in the tiebreaker. So anything that you're trying to execute out there only lasts for a period of time till he makes the adjustment. Then you have to change it. All the while, everything you're planning on doing, you have to do well and you have to do it start to finish. So that's, you know -- you can only say it so many ways. You know, that's too good.

That fourth set getting away was really just a testament to his standard and how he can raise his game and why you can't give him the lead. All the great players, you can't give them a lead. They stretch a match open quickly. And, you know, he's definitely one of those.

-- a match is a complicated thing. There are a lot of ebbs and flows in it. There's a lot of -- but ultimately, the person that brings the most the most amount of times, you know, is going to win that. He just brings a lot all the time for all the options he has. And while there are periods that you can have him on the fence, his options when he's on the fence is better than most, better than most. You know, I had him -- I had his back against the wall to some degree at one set all, 4-2, 30-Love serving, but he just figured that to be a cue for him to do something else.
So you can't just say he's full of talent, you have to give him his respect for hard work and discipline and commitment and the mindset that it takes to step on the court being the favorite every time, to step in the finals hoping today's not the day that something goes wrong, like you're talking about. And he does it over and over again. So there are a lot of things coming together for him, and deservingly so.

Yeah, you have to respect not just his abilities, but you also have to respect what goes into all the pieces that make him the factor he is, you know. I mean, and that's the mindset. It is the focus. It is the, you know, the knowing when to play, when not to play. It's pulling out of tournaments as you prepare to peak for other tournaments. You know, he's made a lot of good decisions, and he certainly is maximizing all the arsenal that he has. And I can't say it surprises me because I don't know him, but it certainly amazes me."

Sophie, wow. Thanksf for sharing that enlightening quote from Andre on Roger (can we call him "the dodger" in this context?). It speaks volumes about the respect and dare I say, admiration, that the rest of the pros have for this very special player.

I'd like to share one small story in answer or complement to what Andrew just posted at 8:51am. I entered a pro-am type of money torunament several years ago mid-1980s) while I was finishing college, and I recall several very strong players and former touring pros in the field. One of them, Derek Tarr, from South Africa, I believe, was ranked right around 100 in the world at that time, and he came to pick up a quick couple of grand. There were others, like Charlie Owens, who might be remembered as one of the most successful "minor league" players ever, amassing an amazing record ina short span back in the 70s before trying his hand on the big circuit. Long story short: a local college standout (who starred at N.C. State U. and who culd really clock a serve and backhand and was an All-America selection, played Tarr in the second or third round. He lost 6-0, 6-0. When he came of the court, he spoke openly about how he felt utterly helpless in being dismantled so completely by a guy barely eeking out a decent living on the tour. He had never lost a 6-0, 6-0 match in his entire tennis playing career.

The slightest differenc in ability, at the highest levels, where everyone can clock the ball and all have great stroke and great feet and a good head for the game, can make a huge difference in score. That is one of the many things that amazes me about Federer. We've spoken/debated the parity vs. dominance issue here, and by and large there is real parity on the men's and women's tours today, as at least 12 to 15 guys and10 to 12 gals can step up on any given day and take out a higher ranked player or capture a title. But Federer has managed somehow to keep rolling over the field, with hardly a glitch in the system.

By contrrast, when Sampras dominated (six straight years with the year-end number 1 ranking as my stat for these purposes), he still would lose 12-15 matches each year, sometimes more, and frequently in early rounds. Last year, Federer lost early only once -- to Andy Murray in the second round at the Cincinnati Masters Series event, and that was three days after taking the Masters title in Toronto, where his last four matches went the distance. He played 17 tournaments, making 16 finals, and winning 12 or 13 of them. Not since McEnroe's incredible 85-3 year, or something like that (Sam, I need some help with the exact data, here), has one player been so consistently dominant. It's unreal. No, surreal.

Sophie,

Thanks for that. I never liked Agassi but his match analysis was always incredible. I wonder what he would be like as a coach.

thanks, sophie. there's still a lot of analysis going on by the top players, obviously. it isn't just bash-bash-bash (though that's what sam querrey says his game is all about, but anyway...)

just the couple of minutes that agassi was on ESPN analyzing roddick at the AO were enlightening. i think he got a lot of that skill from brad gilbert. it's interesting, roddick says he also used to seriously analyze his opponents with gilbert, but now he prefers the connors style of focusing on himself first.

i was in a presser at the french in 2004, i think, when agassi lost in the first round to haehnel (sp?). one of the u.s. reporters asked if andre had ever seen the guy play, and whether not knowing his game hurt him. agassi narrowed his eyes a little and said, "yeah, of course i've seen him a couple times before." it was like he was saying, just because YOU don't know who haehnel is doesn't mean I don't. the guy did his homework

by the way, kamakshi is blogging from san jose:

http://tennisworld.typepad.com/travelblogue/

Ray, thanks for posting that link for mmy. I wasn't back on last night after mentioning it.

Steve, I apologize if my comment re: Laver's playing the long ball seemed snarky. It wasn't meant to be. Surely they played a game that didn't have the outright, or easy power of today's pros. More of their game depended on a finesse, and cat-and-mouse, that's rarely seen now.

What I should have said is that for the wooden racquet era, Laver knew how to play the long ball, and did so frequently and decisively.

i don't think i thought it was snarky, skip, and you're right, the guy did play a version of what they called the Big Game back then—aggressive tennis.

the tennis channel used to show full laver matches from the mid-70s in hilton head (some against borg; talk about clash of the titans). i was always struck by what a total master he was of every shot (including a slice backhand offensive lob), but in a much more compact and less spectacular way than, say, federer or sampras. apparently laver was a pretty wild hitter when he was young and had to go through a taming process.

borg served and volleyed constantly in those matches, btw

If Federer goes back in time and is placed in the year 1979, for example, and has to play using the same equipment all the players used in 1979, of course he would be top 5, but would he still be the dominating No.1, going 92-5 every year. How would he do with the wood against McEnroe, Connors, Lendl, Vilas, Borg,Tanner,etc.

I remember Derek Tarr from the Swiss Satellite circuit of 1981. The guy did not miss very many shots. I'll tell you that.

Dunlop Max -- you make me laugh, buddy. Keep on with the great analysis and cogent argumentation. And yes, Derek was a solid player who could take most anybody on the planet except for the 98 or so guys ahead of him on the tour at the tme. But it certainly goes to show there can be very little in the way physically or even talent-wise to distinguish many top players today, from the very best collegiate players to the best ITF juniors to the journeymen pros. But the most successful have something special that they bring to the table match after match, It might be what's between their ears, or it might be a huge serve. Whatever it is, they are consistently able to tap into it as a force to propel them above the rest.

was derek tarr the guy who vitas wanted to have play martina navratilova?

vitas said the no. 100 guy in the world would crush her (she was destroying everyone on the women's side then), and he called out some poor guy who happened to be no. 100 at the time. match never happened

Steve, you know, I believe you are correct! And I'm sure she'd have given him a decent run for the money on her service games if they played on grass. But otherwise, he'd have destroyed her serve and pass her at will on any other surface. And that, by the way, takes absolutley nothing away from Martina Navratilova, one of the ninest female athetes from any era.

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