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Andy's Reappearing Act
Posted 06/18/2007 @ 2 :56 PM

RoddickThere isn’t much love for Andy Roddick around TENNIS.com's neck of the woods. There’s isn’t much hate, either, but that may make it even worse—there isn’t much of anything. If it’s true that the only thing worse than having people talk about you is not having people talk about you (who said that? Oscar Wilde? Jesus?), then the biggest tennis star in the U.S. has it pretty rough here. Our international cast of commenters has claimed this as Federer-Nadal territory. Roddick’s lunchbucket game and perceived ugly American qualities are generally beneath mention.

OK, I agree that Roddick lacks the elegance of Federer and the innocent charisma of Nadal—not to mention many of their skills—but one thing you can say about our ugly American is that he’s played his share of great matches. His monster serve coupled with a less-than-monstrous return game make for lots of close sets, and his high-spirited personality often turns them into crowd-pleasing contests. Think El Aynaoui in Melbourne in 2003, Federer at Wimbledon in 2004, Blake in Indy last summer, Tursunov in Davis Cup last fall, Federer again in Shanghai last November, Ancic in Melbourne this year—the sport would be poorer without those battles.

Now you can add, on a slightly lower plane, Roddick’s final against Nicolas Mahut Sunday at Queen’s. This was a throwback match and a minor classic. You had an inspired underdog trying for his first career title, and a favorite hanging on for dear life and trying to get his confidence back after a long, dry spring. Best of all they showed off an old-fashioned contrast in styles, with Mahut serving and volleying on everything and Roddick hammering away at him from the baseline.

Our photo editor at TENNIS, David Rosenberg, has always sworn by Mahut’s entertaining talents, but I was skeptical. Whatever the former world-champion junior offered in skills, I couldn’t see past his overdone hair, weirdly soft-footed walk, and semi-sadistic way with ball kids. But consider me converted for the moment—maybe the Frenchman is just better on TV. Mahut, ranked below No. 100 and recently scolded for his attitude by his French training group, lit up this event. He beat Ivan Ljubicic and Rafael Nadal, took the first set from Roddick, and reached championship point in the second. He did it all with a single-minded forward-rushing style based on deep serves and strong-armed volleys. He also came up with a pretty good method for handling the American’s serve. Mahut deliberately blocked the ball back very short. His most successful returns crawled over the net and forced Roddick to hit up on the ball from an awkward position, the same way that Federer’s short slice backhands do to everyone not named Nadal. It’s a little counterintuitive—hit the weakest return possible—but it’s a play Roddick’s opponents might want to consider at Wimbledon.

Mahut's game mirrored his physique—lean, raw-boned, without an ounce of fat. It’s a tennis frame from the serve-and-volley era, when range and wingspan meant more than durable legs. Mahut also hits an old-school Eastern forehand and one-handed backhand; the resulting flatness of his strokes works well on grass. His serve was hit to set up his volley rather than to win the point outright, though he did collect his share of aces. Most impressive may have been his second serve, which he pounded fearlessly to the corners of the box.

It all worked so well for Mahut that, if you hadn't known better, you would have thought he was the favorite. He won the key points, ambushing Roddick with a break to end the first set and coming back in the second-set tiebreaker to suddenly hold a match point. If only Mahut could have that point back! Roddick served and came to net, but the Frenchman maintained control from the baseline. After a bang-bang rally, he found himself with a sitter forehand pass. Roddick helplessly awaited his fate at the net. Somehow, it all seemed too easy; this is the way veterans and top players win on grass, by sneaking up at the right moments and grabbing the one or two points that will decide the outcome. But Mahut is not a veteran or a top player; he’s a quintessential journeyman searching for his first title. He’s still searching, because he drilled what should have been the winning forehand into the middle of the net.

MahutRoddick, rather than turn around, backed up to the baseline and watched Mahut the whole way—he knew the match had turned. To his credit, Mahut refused to go away in the third. He continued to hit solid high volleys, make spectacular diving gets, drill forehand winners from the baseline, and pick up half-volleys at the net. Late in the match, he put one of those half-volleys on the back of the baseline, where Roddick hesitated before missing his passing shot. Roddick stared at the line, then turned to the crowd and said with a slight smile, “I thought he might have actually actually missed one there.”

Mahut is in the qualies at Wimbledon this week. Tennis fans should hope he makes it to the main draw; the other players should hope he doesn’t.

Roddick made his annual post-clay reappearance in the usual manner. This was his fourth win at Queen’s in five years. He played well in both the final and in his semifinal against a moody Dmitry Tursunov. Roddick served well—down 1-2, 0-30 in the second, with the match potentially slipping away, he hammered three aces. He returned decently, forcing Mahut to dig out a lot of volleys, and he seemed to be moving well for his forehand, which was consistent. Roddick also actively looked to move forward and tried to do it in a somewhat novel and smart way. When he got a midcourt forehand, rather than crushing it, he spun it high and deep and heavy, which gave him time to get into a better volleying position.

Beyond that, I found myself wondering again: What should we make of Roddick as a personality? Is he an ugly American, a frat boy who bullies his way to victory; or does he bring an energy and overt desire to the court that’s largely missing in today’s men’s game? Roddick himself answered this pretty well in an interview with Pete Bodo in TENNIS in the spring: “You don’t become a tennis player by being a frat boy. With me you can look at the negative or positive, there’s a little of both there.” That’s the way it seemed Sunday at Queen’s—Roddick brought some negative and some positive to the proceedings:

After winning the second set, he threw his fist toward Mahut and screamed. Was this an unnecessary gesture of cruel triumph, or a spontaneous celebration that fired himself and the crowd up? I saw a little of both in it.

In the third set, Roddick hit a forehand on a key point that clipped the very outside edge of the line. Before the linesman could make a sound, Roddick bellowed, “Yep!” as if to preempt any other possible verdict. Uncool and unfair gamesmanship? Or just part of what it takes to win in the cutthroat world of pro tennis? Little of both.

Finally, Mahut challenged an out line call on his serve during the second-set tiebreaker. Roddick immediately announced that he’d seen the ball clearly out and even vaguely threatened Hawk-Eye: “If that thing says it’s in…” Of course, that’s exactly what Hawk-Eye said. Rather than explode, Roddick, in the grand tradition of his coach, Jimmy Connors, took the clown’s route. He got on his knees and put his face an inch from the line, pretending to look for a mark. As one of the British announcers in the booth said, “He bristles and bullies, but then he flashes a cheeky smile and all is forgiven.”

That’s why Roddick, everything taken together, is good for tennis. He can annoy, he can entertain, he can be a jerk to guys he doesn't respect, but in the end the feeling I get is that his reactions are natural and human, and he’s better at expressing them than most players. Perhaps it’s because he’s American, but I feel like I understand the guy; sometimes I like him and sometimes I don't (little of both again). The humor, the directness, the arrogance, the competitiveness, the entitlement, the will to intimidate—he’s a larger than life version of a lot of U.S. kids, and he gives tennis fans something to react to. Compare him, say, to his opponent in the semifinals, Tursunov. The Russian is more talented, fluid, and impressive as a player, but he’s utterly detached, even a mope, whether he’s winning or losing—and we know Tursunov has plenty of personality. There’s no sense of desire, which is all we really want from a player we’re paying money to see. Roddick is only desire—half of his volleys appear to go in strictly because he wills them to, not because he's hit them cleanly—and that’s what makes so many of his matches, whether you like his game or not, worth watching.


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Steve,

You still didn't convince. "A-Rod" (the 2nd?) and his game still has the same formula: = Ho-Hum'ism all over the place. Big yawn from this 'Yank.' Just don't give a big s--t, and I actually enjoy seeing him lose.

With Tursunov, there's too much desire, he's too hard of himself. Roddick, of course, has none of that Russian neuroticism...

I don't think desire is everything that takes for a player to become a champion. Talent and discipline are necessary as well.

Plus, there is one more ingredient to the tennis played on grass equation: Federer.

Steve, liked the post. As I've watched him more, I've grown to respect Roddick for his consistency and determination.

Still, I can't believe Mahut missed that forehand. I'd never seen him before, and he was very fun to watch. That backhand volley of his is awesome.

Andy is top 5 and a hard worker. Now is his time to gain and defend points. Let the games begin.

Last year Mahut played a similar style against Roger Federer at Wimbledon. What I remember is that it was one of the closest match against Federer in the earlier rounds. Of course the one against Rafa was a tougher one (where the split the two very close tie-break sets).

Not being a Roddick fan myself, I have not perceived his on-court manner as bullying. Then what is Berdych? mimicking Santoro's forehand and sushing the crowd and mocking Rafa's jog? I have never seen Roddick do anything like that.

In his press conferences, he has been funny and has always given credit to his opponent. On court, I have never hreard any of his opponents take that stuff seriously....

so I agree with that Bristish reporter:

“He bristles and bullies, but then he flashes a smile and all is forgiven.”

and I think he is good for tennis. How can the world No 3 be bad for tennis?

Zola,
Good question on Roddick. He just do not get the recognition for being a top 5 player. Guess that comes from the heavy American media criticism and the way he holds his pressers after each match. His play gets lost in my last sentence above.

Thanks, Steve. I've heard a lot of opinions on Roddick (some good, some bad) and it's really nice to read something that acknowledges that there's a little of both thrown in.

Danield: Didn't convince? I was unaware that we were trying to prove anything here. People are going to have opinions either way, and it's useless trying to convince anyone of anything. So just enjoy the tennis, and enjoy (or suffer) watching the big American win. Because no matter what anyone says, the man can play on grass, second in all probability only to Federer (yes, I know about Murray last year. Please don't get me started on Murray).

Roddick seems like a funny guy, he obviously has tons of friends and comes from a family that would take in another guy (and equal competitor at the time) into their home and treat him like a son/brother. As fierce competitors and players who annoy, Andy Roddick seems way down the list.

I have always seen him as a player who always plays hard and brings his game to the day. He seems to give the spectators their money's worth.

Fed and Rafa exceptions - the natural order is that clay and grass bring out different people who have more game on a specific surface than the other. It is great for the sport that this is the case and people out of the top 100 like Mahut can show off their game. They can S&V with success bucking the current wisdom that racquets and strings doom that style.

It would be sad to adopt a position that one surface is more vaild than others, especially if that position is based on a particulars players success. Brazil may play the beautiful game but that does not mean there is not great football played around the world. I feel the same about tennis. "Horses for courses".

Hi Steve,

Given that they've been showing the bloody Artois finals on the Tennis Channel non-stop, there's little reprieve from watching Roddick's game. That said, here's a question. Much has been make about Roddick's much-improved net coverage and his down the line backhand (a la Connors) but I didn't really see much of that in the match. One of my students who plays on our university tennis team swears that what's better about Roddick now are not his strokes but rather his foot-speed and his running. What do you think? Frankly, he still lumbers around awkwardly, and seems entirely unsuited for the elegance of grass--all anglo-nostalgia forgiven here. But, I'd still take Nadal over him at Wimbledon. Federer is still the top chap here. Roddick just doesn't seem to have much innovation or touch in his game. Nonetheless, thanks for your attempt at making Roddick likeable!

I don't have a great problem with Roddick but for one thing--the camera focuses more on Jimmy Connors ahem, excuse me....James Scott Connors. When is the fascination ever going to end over Jimmy Connors? Surely everyone knows by now that he's Roddick's coach.

What really bothers me about Roddick's game is that everyone marvels over how fast he can serve, which is exactly why I dialed out of the men's game in the first place. How interesting is that to see someone fire 135-150 mph serves that an opponent can't return? Yawn...

Federer brought me back to the men's game.

The thing I notice about Roddick is that he's just a good workman-like player. There's a reason he struggles so with opponents. I notice he has a hard time stringing together a game consistently.

Which always brings to me to the question...if he struggles with player number 74, Mahut and it takes him 3 sets to put him away, what kind of damage can he do to a top player??

I think he also suffers from the fact that everyone is expecting him to be another Pete Sampras or Andrea Agassi which is unfair to him. He could be just what he is--a solid and consistent top ten performer. No more and no less

Poor A-Rod...

Steve,

This is an excellent post. The tennis in this match was quite good, but the thing that struck me the most was Roddick's personality. There probably is a bit of both in his actions (a bit too much of the bad for my taste), and I thought the quote from the commentator was spot on: "He bristles and bullies, but then he flashes a smile and all is forgiven."

I think he does overdo it a bit on the intimidation/bullying, but I've also wondered why no one really tries to do that to Federer. Is TMF impervious to gamesmanship? The real turn off for me wrt Roddick is this grin/smirk he walks around with during the match, as if to say "Can you believe how lucky this guy is to be playing out of his gourd against me? Any normal level of play and I'd wreck him." Agree though, that tennis needs someone that causes people to sit up and have a (good or bad) reaction, and Roddick fills that void.

-Jesse

Steve a good summation. He drives his fans to distraction by playing passive tennis and then seems somehow to win and then comes and plays lights out. As you say he often wills his shots in. I think he is good for the game personally I was more a McEnroe/Connors person anyways than Borg/Edberg. Not that detracts from their awesome ability to play but it does shake things up nicely!

Steve - Thanks for the excellent analysis of Roddick and his latest tournament win.Let's hope that he can carry this into Wimbledon. Roddick's willingness to play Davis Cup is certainly one of his better qualities. His combativenenss and in-your-face demeanor are some of his lesser qualities. Federer may be a little flat after losing the French so perhaps Roddick can extract some revenge on his nemesis - hope springs eternal.

It bring up the question - is it a players game or the match that creates a memorable sports experience? Is a Fed all court blow out or a Nadal beat down on clay after a close first set better than a three set chess match such as the Queen's final?

Big serves and serve and volley (as Pete points out on ESPN) creates increasing tension and pressuer to hold as breaking is difficult. The pressure on a single point is intense versus a break fest where there is always the chance to break back.

The often morned S&V has a day in the sun and other players a chance to shine.

AR is a consistent top five and probably top three player on average with a big game. At the top the differences between wins and titles are quite subtle. If Roddick had a game that could be easily exploited those weakenesses would have been exposed and he would be out of the top 100. That should suggest something to the critics of his game. One can say they do not like his style but I find it hard to accept he does not have a package that adds up to one of the best five players year in and year out in the game. That is an impressive accomplishment.

Grass court and faster surface is simply different and requires different talents, mindset and strategy.

For me, Roddick has always been a love-have sort of guy - Not sure whether I should fawn over the fact that hes accomplished so much on a monster serve and a forehand .. or detest him for the fact that he still can't get the net game clicking to win Wimbledon .. but his interviews are especially a treat to read .. especially loved the one he gave after his loss to Andreev last year at Miami..

And the quote is from Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ..

I'm indifferent towards Roddick. I find his game boring, he doesn't possess the beautiful one hand backhand of Roger. He seems to have a big ego and I don't like the less then respectful attitude he gives to his lesser known opponents. But I think that Americans need him because he's their only hope which is sad because I think his ability to compete with Roger is very limited. American tennis is dying for a MacEnroe or Connors, and I don't think it's realistic to believe Roddick is that person. Congrats on his recent win and for the sake of American tennis, I really hope he does well at Wimbledon. Go Justine!

Roland Garros,
Looked at that site. Just need to know what thread to talk on at the moment. Ready for Wimby draw Friday? Maria ran out of gas Sunday playing 4 matches in 2 days with the first one going 3 against Paczek.

Good article on A-rod steve! There are definitely a lot of good things he brings to the table. Back in 2003, I felt the US media hyped up a-rod and somehow I thought it was unfair that most of the tennis media could not see the huge chasm in the levels of fed-ex and a-rod. There is no doubt in my mind that a-rod was the undisputed no.2 till the ascent of nadal. And in the past 3-4 yrs he is definitely no. 2 on grass (maybe hewitt but a-rod has better results to show) and in the top 5 hardcourts. I would say no. 2 after fed-ex but I can understand if people do not agree with that.

His temporary loss of form last year meant that the US media is being a little more fair in their treatment of a-rod and that has allowed me to see the real roddick and I would say he is a reasonable dude. His press conferences and interviews are so much fun. He is very witty and spontaneous and as u mentioned his tennis is all about desire. I mean he has less of a game than a lot of players I admire tennis-skills-wise but there is definitely very few who will match him in the desire and will category.

Contrast that with someone like safin. A-rod definitely makes the most of everything he has. That is all that matters as a tennis player. I donot care whether he is mean/unfair because this is a sport where some crazy nut case can stab a player and put an end to a potentially all time great career and get away with it. Now that is unfair!

Liz...a 150 mph serve an opponent CAN'T return???...Roger returns serves like that IN HIS SLEEP...witness ARod being taken " to the shed " by The Master in Melbourne a few months back...Nuff Said.

Good piece, Steve - last paragraph especially. Andy is certainly worth watching, and you really never know what you'll get from a fan's perspective or his, each time out on the court.

Regrettably, I have never seen a single shot or movement of Roddick's about which I could say, that was beautiful tennis, lovely to watch. I am left unmoved by the body crouched over the BH and the FH (he never seems to stand upright)and subsequent stroke. I do admire his ability to serve aces, but the mph leaves me cold. Volleys are ugly. So what's left? He has persistence to try to win, and for that I applaud him. Would I pay to watch him? No.

so as long as you don't stab someone, you shouldn't be accused of being unfair? you have really high standards, lol.

Thanks for this piece, Steve. I must say that I'm a HUGE Roddick fan, more so now than ever before. Yes, I know he can get a little belligerent, especially when a low-ranked guy is getting too close to an upset, but I SO appreciate his passion, his competitiveness, and his ambition. I also admire the heck out of him for continuing to plug away in the age of Federer. If you think back to 2003, when Roddick ended the year number one after winning the US Open and making the SF of the Aus Open and Wimbledon, it seemed like he was on the verge of a brilliant career - then Federer blossomed and suddenly Roddick had a whole new mountain to climb. He's been denied a handful of Slams since then by Fed, who's beaten him in two Wimbledon finals, a US Open final, and a Australian Open semifinal, and yet, he keeps getting up off the canvas, ready to try it again. This is what makes him compelling to me. It humanizes him. (Remember when he was almost in tears after beating Hewitt at the US Open last year? How can you not feel for a guy that happy to be competing well again?) I remember sitting in the nosebleed seats at Ashe stadium early in Roddick's career and watching him get petulant and frustrated when his big serve wasn't getting the job done one night (come to think of it, it might have been the night he lost to Hewitt in 2001). A friend and I mock-whined whenever he got bratty, saying "I'm Andy Roddick. It's supposed to be easy for me. I have such a big serve. Why don't you fear me?" I couldn't stand him back then, when more people seemed to like him. Now, when so many have turned against him, I'm a huge fan. Thanks again for this piece.

Fine, you can look at Roddick as the "two sides of the coin" thing. All that is fine and good. We could all use a clown once in a while as well. Its not like America has much choice either.

But, what is really ugly is how he behaves badly, tries to bully and shout, even abuse and all that, with players like Mahut or Tsonga, but how submissive he looks when he plays guys like Federer or Nadal, even if he hits a winner or wins a set. He is almost slave like to them, and would fall at their feet, if given a chance, I feel.

That to me, is just plain plug ugly behavior. Bully the weak guys...and a lot of useless ego.

That also shows that, he himself beleives that he doesnt belong there with those 2 guys, despite what American statisticians might be out to prove, that he is the tier right below Federer and Nadal's big toe.

And add that to the basic atrocious ugliness of his game itself, which I feel is injurious to kids watching (the danger that they might copy this plug ugly style), makes Roddick unbearable.

Have you seen that Lacoste Ad? Can you say Uggghhh...

"he can be a jerk to guys he doesn't respect"
What did Tsonga or Murray ever do to him?

He seems like a such a good guy occasionally, I've grown to really like him. Plus you can't beat his press conferences. Also, this ugly american is really cute!

Would it hurt you guys to write something nice about Andy?

Also, how did you come up with the idea that Tursunov is " more talented, fluid, and impressive as a player". Look at their bios. They tell a very different story.

OTF, you are right about those Lacoste ads although my wife might disagree....I would love to see a Rafa-Roddick semifinal to see if Andy can get revenge for Indian Wells. My bet is NO VAMOS!

Let me put it this way. Andy Roddick needs to win Wimby. Period. If not, he is just one of the "One Slam Wonders." Honestly, I don't think he can do it this year either.

Virgil: There can be little doubt that Roddick will be what you call a "One Slam Wonder" if he doesn't win Wimbledon, or any other Big Four tournament again. But then, like Michael Stich said when asked if he'd feel bad if he wasn't the Wimbledon champion the year after he'd won in 1991, "I'll always be a Wimbledon champion."

Be careful of being too dismissive of anyone who wins a major tournament. They may not win two, but one's an incredible accomplishment.

I adore Andy Roddick. Why does tennis always have to be aesthetically pleasing? That's just a treat. I enjoy what Andy brings to the table, and how is style of play contrasts with others.

He's a fierce competitor. I don't really see him directing his intensity towards others, like in the way Serena/Sharapova try to bulldoze others with their shrieking. I think he's just trying to audibly motivate himself. And I am OK with that.

I will always remember that back in '04 Andy was one of the few Americans to stay in the athletes village at the Olympics. I remember the NYTimes quoted several athletes in saying that Andy was their favorite American player there as he was making an effort to interact with others and trade pins. Definitely not the behavior of an ugly American.

Although I am a Rafa KAD, I do like Andy and tennis definitely needs his personality. His game is brutish and unstylish but he has been the most consistent player over the last four years outside of TMF. Now, Djokovic is the new "it" boy and it would be equally great to see a Roddick-Djoko quarter or semi. Although I prefer the aesthetics of Djoko's game, I will be pulling for Andy.

yeah, roddick-djoko, that would be good stuff. you know andy would be busting at the seams to give the kid a lesson.

roddick-nadal at wimbledon would also be interesting. for some reason, the fact that it wouldn't happen until the semis makes me think nadal would win because it means he would have fully adjusted to grass at that point.

I have nothing against Roddick... in fact, I do pull for him in Davis Cup (being an American)... BUT the sad part is that my favorite part of Andy is watching and reading his press conference... That doesn't say much about his tennis, huh? lol! Watching Roddick play tennis is hard work. I mean, you see everything he's putting into it and it just seems like he's working so hard (compared to someone like Roger who seem to just glide out there). No, Roddick's tennis isn't 'beautiful' and I tend to like to watch smoother styles like Roger play. Nothing against Andy, but it just isn't my style. But I don't root against him either.

And like someone else asked... I have never, ever seen Andy or any other player play games or sportsmanship when they're playing Roger. As Jon said in his column once that it's kind of hard for the guys to act like a jerk when the #1 player isn't.

That's the one thing I think Roddick can improve on - his on-court antics against players ranked lower in the rankings. I have defenitely seen the 'un-sportsmanship' attitude and it is getting worse with Jimmy as his coach. But off court - Andy is a very likable guy. I don't like the fact that he's playing that "Ugly American" role, but I didn't like McEnroe or Conners or Nastaste or any other player like that on court either.

WHATS A lunchbucket game ?

If you've ever watched doubles players at the 4.0 level compete at the club, they yell, pump their fists at each other and attempt gamesmanship that you never see on the pro tour. Why then wouldn't someone who's fighting for his career do the same? Why wouldn't he go for a mental edge against a journeyman who could deny him his comeback victory?

It's true that Federer doesn't do the same, but that makes him the exception and not the rule. Besides, why would he need gamesmanship when he's rarely tested?

Sophie, in complete agreement there. He is submissive to Federer and Nadal, but intimidating to much lower ranked players. I have seen that 2. However, I don't think the guys he plays care. What defeated Mahut was not Andy, but his own inexperience in ATP Tour finals.
I find it hard to feel any animosity or strong feeling for him. He's just well, a good, but not great player who should be left to find his level. From what I've seen of him he is the perfect description of a 'one-dimensional player'. Hopefully Connors is teaching him some new game plans for the future.

Rob York

because they are not 4.0 level club players! they are professional tennis players. For this type of attitude, there is always "wrestling" to follow.

yeah, kill, rip his throat apart...just win...doesn't matter if it is ugly....

Nah....I want to watch tennis.

Beth,
I know someone who was in the Roddick-Boggy match and I asked her about the incident. SHe said she didn't notice it and didn't think Boggy minded Roddick. Bogdanovic in his presser also said tHAT he didn't hear Roddick and seemed he was shouting at himself!

I am no Roddick fan, so I was ready to be critical, but neither my friend, nor Boggy thought it was a big deal.

I don't understand why some people dislike Andy. He brings fire & passion to the game. I think that sometimes people mistake his attempts to fire himself up as being unsportsmanlike. He often applauds opponents when they make a great shot. He has been a consistent top five player for most of the past five years.

He'll never be as good as Federer, but with the exception of Nadal on Clay - neither will anyone else.

Go Andy!

Liz: in earnest, I don't think Mahut was actually playing a number 74 (or 76) game.... I would still like to see how A-Rod fares in front of more established "grass menaces" but I think here, it's really not fair to take away Nicolas' achievements (he was also Wimbledon Junior champ in 2000)

Has anyone noticed the "crouching frog(gy)" posture Mahut did when returning A-Rod's serve: hilarious!!!(what's the problem with his hair? I like it hair very much).

Also I think that it's easily forgotten that Andy Roddick was number 1 for 13 weeks from Nov 03, 2003 to Feb 01, 2004 : not a small feat by any means and which puts him btw just between Mats Wilander (20 weeks) and Boris Becker (12 weeks). OK, VERY pale comparison to what a certain Swiss guy-god is currently doing but it deserves some RESPECT.

I definitely believe that Roddick has another slam win in him and I hope he continues to do what he is currently doing (absolutely everything) to capture it. Well done Andy!

mmm, sorry for the bad syntax...

for Tursunov: I agree he's quite a talent but all seems to go to waste... On court his attitude is a problematic mix of intense self-awareness and contained aggressiveness. During his match against Roddick he held steady and the match was not that disaggreeable to watch. You don't have to be "hysterical", screaming or breaking racquets like Safin (or Gonzalez when beaten by Tursunov),to be a good tennis player. I think the Russian in an interview in a French magazine explained that his demeanour came from his education. From what I could see in matches I understand it as a question of self-respect...

Still, he should definitely work on his DROP SHOTS before Wimbledon because at that rate of failure there is no amount of self-respect that will prevent him from being slashed away by some French players or Mr Berdych himself!

Go Andy!

Andy is so easy to cheer for: His game - attitude in general - the enthusiasm, energy & intensity he brings to every match, he's fierce, driven & passionate competitor, his whole-hearted, continuous commitment to DC, his efforts to try to bring tennis to the general public - hosting clinics, playing exhibitions, organising tennis events, public appearances ...; his general character- thoughtfulness, respect of others, his foundation & other charitable contributions, his wit, humour (esp evident in his excellent pressers & interviews), his understanding, generosity, willingness to give time, class & courtesies, he's humble in victory and defeat, gives credit where credit is due... yes, his looks, .... so: Go Andy!

Players don't seem to have complaints about Andy's on-court behaviour, or at least they don't voice them. So, is it really that bad? Personally I love the intensity, energy, enthusiasm, expressiveness and desire to win Andy brings to the court. To each and every match. imo, there are very few times when he has "crossed the line" - I think that his expressiveness primarily stems from natural and spontaneous reactions to intense situations to fire himself up, rather than to intimidate and bully his opponent. That may be secondary or simply a result of Andy's intensity. Good on him.

Go Andy! I've been cheering rather loudly for Andy for years now - and am happy to note that here at TW the love for him (or at least a little appreciation/ respect for Andy) has grown - slightly. Although the overwhelming majority still enjoys bagging him at every opportunity. I really don't understand the bashing Andy receives here. I can appreciate that people don't like Roddick or don't want to cheer for him, or even criticise elements of Andy but the cheering AGAINST him and constantly bashing him is really very disappointing.

Good on Andy & Mahut for the incredible Artois Championships final! Well done to both. What a brilliant match! Tremendous efforts by both. Queen's is such a wonderful tournament. Lovely ceremony. Great speeches - respectful, entertaining and appreciative. Well done Andy & Mahoot!

Andy has consistently been in the top 5 for years now (except those few months last year - good on him for climbing back up!). Tursonov is more talented?! How so? I am sorry, how many GS finals has he been in ? Semis for that matter? Don't get me wrong, I like Dmitry, but obviously he can't quite piece it all together, even if some of his play is "better" than Andy's.

Andy Roddick for Wimbledon 2007!

Nice article, quite objective too.
It would be perhaps more boring if all ATP players had the sportsmanship and fair play of Federer and Nadal. Jerks like Roddick make it more interesting and fun to watch.
"Perhaps it’s because he’s American", like Steve says. I've seen Serena doing similar stuff in Roland Garros this year, and of course in the past McEnroe and Connors. James Blake and Andre Agassi though are true gentlemen.
Although a Federer fan, I really would like to see Nadal eliminating Roddick in Wimbledon, because with Federer Roddick knows he has no chance.

Roddick is not a champion... It's pathetic how he used the crowd and clowned around to throw Mahut off his momentum. It's so connors too! Roddick is simply second rate... Pathetic!

svacht

***It would be perhaps more boring if all ATP players had the sportsmanship and fair play of Federer and Nadal. Jerks like Roddick make it more interesting and fun to watch****

seems I have not watched enough Rodick games. I don't find him a Jerk!

Sportsmanship is a "must". those who don't have it should be encouraged to do so, or be fined, not being applauded for making the game "interesting". no one who disrespecte an opponent can be interesting.

Again, there is always wrestling and boxing to watch, if these thinga re "interesting". Please do not redefine "sportemanship" for tennis!

lunchbucket: workmanlike, no frills, not flashy, not elegant, gets the job done, etc.

Steve,
Perfect description on lunchbucket. That describes Roddick well. Hard work equals top 5 on a yearly basis.

Original French(ie),
Thanks for reminding me that Roddick was #1 for a few weeks(mostly due to winning the US Open in 2003) before Fed took his game to another level.

I didn't see Roddick v. Mahut but it was riveting on my trusty live scoreboard! Thanks for filling in the details, Steve.

It's true, Andy Roddick has played some really great matches -- gotta love him for those. His game isn't enthralling to me, but the whole of Andy Roddick (as I perceive him) is. I respect the strengths of his game, his competitive fire, his effort and his overall persona off the court. His sometimes 'ugly American' behavior only really bothers me during Davis Cup, but I always get over it. If he wants to show his backside, I wish he'd only do so when representing Andy Roddick alone. Funnily enough, I know he did something that aggravated me during the last tie, but I've completely forgotten what. I have sisterly feelings for him or something -- when he acts like a twerp, I want to grab his cap, smack him upside the head with it and say, "What'd ya go and do THAT for, ya bonehead?!?" But I forgive quickly and always want him to do well.

Is 'frat boy' such a bad thing? Maybe it's just my personal experience -- many of my guy friends in college were frat boys. Smart, funny, fun dudes who worked hard, played hard (a good thing, IMO). Sometimes a little naughty, sometimes a little cocky, but respectful, respectable, SOLID guys in the grand scheme. As 30-somethings today, they're some of the best guys I know. I have no idea if Andy Roddick is a frat boy-type or not, but if he is, I can think of far worse things for him to be.

Re: Mahut. He can be impressive, but does he DF a lot or is that just me? Whatever. I hope he's playing well at Wimbledon -- he can make things interesting.

Re: Tursunov. A sense of desire isn't all I want from a player I'm paying to see. I really just want to see their tennis skills on display. It's definitely frustrating to sense a player doesn't care At All, but I don't get that from Tursunov. His moping and/or poker face is just a different expression of desire to me. Actually, Tursunov's on-court demeanor cracks me up in a perverse way. No demonstration of emotion between points and then he just takes it all out on the ball. hee!

*There isn’t much love for Andy Roddick around TENNIS.com's neck of the woods. There’s isn’t much hate, either, but that may make it even worse—there isn’t much of anything.*

I’m surprised no one took you to task for this. I made the same point over at Bodo’s and everyone acted like I’d stabbed their kitten. Roddick is completely lost in the shuffle of FeDal and now the young’uns. There’s just no obvious story about him anymore. At least last year we had premature declarations of his career’s death followed by the resurrection at the hands of Connors storyline. This year has been a bust especially after back to back maulings by Federer and Nadal.

Every time the issue of Roddick comes up and why anyone should pay more attention to him than they already do, it always comes down to he’s a good old boy. His apparent similarity to general American manhood which is not really something he’s worked to achieve given that he’s a man and American seems to be the argument of last resort.

After Roddick Nadal I would not bet on Roddick doing well against Djoko. Besides Roddick only gets pumped up for much lower ranked opponents. The swagger might vanish against Djoko as it usually does against higher ranked players.

Roddick's always entertaining to watch. I love his competitiveness, his energy, liveliness, determination. He can make you laugh on court and off, he's got a great sense of humour and gives the best interviews by a country mile. I'd love to see him win Wimbledon, at least I can feel certain he'd never wear a pretentious dinner jacket like Federer...

I think that AR gets overly criticized for his fist-pumping/ staring/potential gamesmanship antics, while other players like say, Maria Sharapova does worst things and instead of criticism, she gets to add another sponsor to her list, gets praised for being "mentally strong" or goes on to enjoy cupcake draw-after-cupcake draw. Maybe its a perception colored by American/non-american glasses; but as a non-american, I prefer somebody that, like AR, takes the time to clownishly smile and asks to be forgiven for his 'antics', than other players outthere whose fist-pumping after an opponent UFE, is unapologetic and deadly serious.

Zola,
You yourself said that Roddick is good for the game. I was trying to say the same thing. My point was, at any level, the fire of competition comes out. It causes different players to do different things. You saw it in Connors, McEnroe and Lendl, except those guys lacked a lot of Roddick's good nature. His strokes may not be pretty, but he's got heart and work ethic, and those things make him good for the game.

hope Andy KADS will feel welcome and post and have fun here at TW.

ppl typing 'Andy for Wimbledon '07' are borderline delusional. Only in a scenario where Fed and Nadal underperform horribly do I see this happening. One bad day serving, and he'll be gone, his return game simply can't win matches on its own. The guy's a vocal and animated competitor, fine - some call this charisma, some ppl actually think Michael Mencia is funny - personal taste I guess. No knock on Andy, but my money's on him not winning Wimbledon, anyone that can read his serve and exploit his (improved, but still vulnerable) backhand can take him out. Players know this, few can do it, but the best can.

d-wiz, re. frat boy: i guess the negative stereotype comes from the idea that frats represent (mostly white) male upper-middle-class entitlement, foster exclusivity, an us-against-them mentality, and disapproval of anything other than outgoing, loudmouth, towel-snapping social behavior.

i think it's half true, but what you said about frat types being "solid," good-citizen guys is also true. i wasn't in a frat, but i was on a college tennis team, which is almost the same thing. i've never enjoyed anything more than being part of that team.

thanks steve for this post, I was always afraid of posting something good about roddick on this site because of the backlash that it might ensue...

When seemingly unsportsmanlike behavior by roddick happens, his opponents seems either to not have notice or does not mind it, I think the opponents accept roddick for who he is, and seem to know that it is more on firing himself up (well, with the exception of his match with Murray---that was really a stare down) rather than disrespecting them, the camera just seems so focus on him; one photographer says that in tennis he really likes Roddick because he gives great reaction shots---he really is very expressive so to speak, and, I agree that is very good for tennis

Nope. Not sold. Still don't care for the guy who called Tsonga a "fucking prick," and curses out a linesperson or chair umpire at least once a tournament. He gets no pass from me, Steve. Nadal is pure desire and passion -- but doesn't act like an idiot. Roddick reminds me of the guys in my New Jersey High School who really, really wanted to and tried to be cool -- but were just corny. He is a frat boy -- through and through. Entitled, fawned over, and told his obnoxiousness is cute.

Glad to see a post dedicated to my man Roddick, Steve. I hope he earns more of them this second half of the year. Too bad the consequences are a bunch of negative comments for Roddick from the posters here. You'd think he wasn't a former no. 1. And having a beautiful game is not the same as having talent. I've always liked his personality on (mostly) and off the court, as well as Federer's.

On the other hand, the last thing I want to see is pity for Roddick for being a one-slam wonder atm, or for having Fed and Nadal in the mix, because not many even get to be that.

Kombo, if being no. 3 in the world doesn't make you a favorite for Wimbledom, I don't know what does. Someone pointed out that if Roddick has weaknesses, they are not exploited very well by his opponents.

From last post:
M-Life, thanks. I'm majoring in Biology and my finals were okay. Better than my midterms, anyway.

I like a number of players - some more successful than others but at the top, the game is,indeed, about being able to exploit small weaknesses. The very top guys can and that what makes them top players - or as J Mac once said the difference between the number one and number 100 player is very small.

To hang in at number three and in top 5, you can bet Roddick's weaknesses are not that big or they would be exploited by a wide range of players and he would be out of the top 50, even with his serve. So quite a bit of the opinions regarding his game do not make sense to me and "beauty is in the eyes" and all that.

The other name calling and laying labels on the guy are just that. If he were, in person, the guy people preceive, I doubt he would be as well liked and his game respected by his peers. Most of these guys have their own behavior that seems stangely cute, tolerated or dammed depending on the observers feeling about the player.

And cursing is the same in Russian, Spanish or German even if not as many people can understand it --

As a former "frat boy", I have to say that stereotype is regrettably deserved and although I generally like Andy, I can see why folks like Frances are so turned off by "Jimbo-esque" demeanor on the court. The difference is that at 6'2 and almost 200 lbs (4 inches and 50 lbs more than Jimbo) Andy's act seems more like intimidation than merely pumping himself up. No matter how great he is with the media or how many humanitarian acts Andy does off the course, a sizable portion of the hard-core tennis fans will never care for this Nebraskan-Texan (via Florida). I just hope he stays in the mix (top 10) for the next 5 years or so but with Djoko, Murray, Berdych and Baggy on the rise, who knows?

Kingdavid said:

Liz...a 150 mph serve an opponent CAN'T return???...Roger returns serves like that IN HIS SLEEP...witness ARod being taken " to the shed " by The Master in Melbourne a few months back...Nuff Said.


Liz's reply:

Hey, I should have qualified that statement to indicate most tennis players can't return his serve. But then Fed isn't most tennis players. He's from another planet, remember??

I was trying to be fair to A-Rod, coz he's not my favorite player. His pressers are fun, tho. Especially the one he gave after that beatdown in the shed by the Master in Melbourne a few months back. Hey my siggy line should tell all who I pull for in tourneys. I know all about the Master's ability to return A-Rod's serve. My favorite A-Rod v the Master match is still hands down Wimbledon 2005 because the Master was in the zone that day--it was beautiful and brought tears to my eyes. Johnny Mac in his infinite wisdom kept saying that A-Rod needed to overcome Federer with his power and his serve which was paralyzing--yeah, right!

But that beatdown in Melbourne belongs in another category. That was a thing of beauty. My dad doesn't follow tennis and EVEN HE was embarrased for Roddick after that match.

Kingdavid said:

Liz...a 150 mph serve an opponent CAN'T return???...Roger returns serves like that IN HIS SLEEP...witness ARod being taken " to the shed " by The Master in Melbourne a few months back...Nuff Said.


Liz's reply:

Hey, I should have qualified that statement to indicate most tennis players can't return his serve. But then Fed isn't most tennis players. He's from another planet, remember??

I was trying to be fair to A-Rod, coz he's not my favorite player. His pressers are fun, tho. Especially the one he gave after that beatdown in the shed by the Master in Melbourne a few months back. Hey my siggy line should tell all who I pull for in tourneys. I know all about the Master's ability to return A-Rod's serve. My favorite A-Rod v the Master match is still hands down Wimbledon 2005 because the Master was in the zone that day--it was beautiful and brought tears to my eyes. Johnny Mac in his infinite wisdom kept saying that A-Rod needed to overcome Federer with his power and his serve which was paralyzing--yeah, right!

But that beatdown in Melbourne belongs in another category. That was a thing of beauty. My dad doesn't follow tennis and EVEN HE was embarrased for Roddick after that match.

Rob York,

*** My point was, at any level, the fire of competition comes out. It causes different players to do different things. You saw it in Connors, McEnroe and Lendl, except those guys lacked a lot of Roddick's good nature. His strokes may not be pretty, but he's got heart and work ethic, and those things make him good for the game. ***

then maybe I misunderstood your first post.

I like enthusiasm and emotion on the court. but I want to see sportsmanship too. Roddick is a good-natured person as you said and is nothing like McEnroe.That is really annoying to me.

frances said:

Nope. Not sold. Still don't care for the guy who called Tsonga a "fucking prick," and curses out a linesperson or chair umpire at least once a tournament. He gets no pass from me, Steve. Nadal is pure desire and passion -- but doesn't act like an idiot. Roddick reminds me of the guys in my New Jersey High School who really, really wanted to and tried to be cool -- but were just corny. He is a frat boy -- through and through. Entitled, fawned over, and told his obnoxiousness is cute.

Liz's reply to frances--

well said! I think you've hit on the deeper reason why I don't like Roddick. Unfortunately, its regrettable that as you say his obnoxiousness is treated as cute, because it gives him reason to continue. Then it becomes less about the tennis and more about him being the reincarnation of Jimmy Connors. Which is the last thing tennis needs, with all due respects to Jimmy who did a lot in his tennis career. Andy still has much to prove and its unfortunate that he's in the era of Federer.

nyc made a good point - Sharapova's shreiking is much worse that Arod's posturing. That level of (unnecesary) noise is off-putting to both the audience and her opponents. I'd dismiss it as an innate habit if it she didn't pipe down when she's losing, but she gets hush when she's getting wrecked. It's blatant gamesmanship, a way to impose her sonic presence, disquiet her opponents and disrupt their focus on their own game.

Bravo Andy Roddick on your Fourth Queen's title! That was the best match I watched at Queens in years.

Quote by Steve Tignor: "There isn’t much love for Andy Roddick around TENNIS.com's neck of the woods. There’s isn’t much hate, either, but that may make it even worse—there isn’t much of anything."

LOL. What sand dune did you bury your head under, Steve? From what I have observed, Roddick is a polarizing character where most people either love him or hate him. There hasn't been much talk about him lately because it's the clay season and everyone is talking about Federer and Nadal. Now that the real tennis season begins on grass we'll be hearing alot more from Roddick and his many fans (and detractors).

::: Roddick's always entertaining to watch. I love his competitiveness, his energy, liveliness, determination. He can make you laugh on court and off, he's got a great sense of humour and gives the best interviews by a country mile. I'd love to see him win Wimbledon, at least I can feel certain he'd never wear a pretentious dinner jacket like Federer... :::

Amen to that. I would love to see Roddick win Wimbledon. He has a great grass game is a much more exciting player to watch than RoboFed and his ugly jacket and his phony crybaby celebrations.

If Andy's career ended today, would he be in the Hall of Fame? I would say no but then Gaby Sabbatini made it in (who was dominated by Steffi Graf a la Roger). But then I cannot imagine that Gaston Gaudio being invited to Newport.

Hey Steve,

Good piece on one my favorite players. For me, tennis is much more than 'beauty and artistry', it is a game that combines talent, athleticsm, strategy, and fitness all in one. Roddick posseses all of these qualities, albeit some more than others. His consistent results speak volumes more than any of his detractors ever could. I also feel that tennis is mired in the traditional 'sportmanship' vein; I would like to see more players expose their true feelings on court rather than always giving a game face. Maybe it would prevent a lot of the 'mental' problems top players are prone to, especially on the women's side. I know I can be 'jerkish' on court, but I never take it personally if the person across the net gives me a taste of his emotions as well. It can be very emotionally satisfying, freeing me up to take truer swings. Don't knock it until you try it...

Steve,
Roddick is great for the sport! He is a HUGE personality on & off the court with a great sense of humor, sharp remarks & comments. He also is a great team player, playing consistently in Davis cup for USA. He said once that as long as USA wins Davis cup again, he does not care if he does win another tournament! He is a great example for the kids by showing them how hard he works on/off the court and by having foundation, which he started. Yes, A-ROD is great inside and out.

When has Andy Roddick behaved like a jerk toward lesser known players? He was full of praise for Mahut both before and after the match. Same with Tsonga at the Australian Open. In fact, I can't remember a time when Roddick dismissed anybody in his interviews as being "beneath" him, unlike Federer who called Djokovic "a joke" and Nadal a one-dimensional cheater. So who's the one with the poor sportsmanship? Certainly not Roddick.

When will the Tennis.com writers call Federer out on his rude dismissal of Bud Collins after losing at the French Open? Would Andy Roddick ever behave like such a petulant sore loser the way Federer did? Nope. Roddick takes his lumps like a man, unlike Federer, and for that Roddick will always have my utmost respect.

>>> hope Andy KADS will feel welcome and post and have fun here at TW.

Good luck with that. The Tennis.com bloggers are simply too biased and favored for Princess Roger and the respondents here are mostly preteen FedKADs.

>>> Would it hurt you guys to write something nice about Andy?

Yes, it would physically hurt them to say anything pleasant about anyone, especially a likeable, funny, popular top ten player like Roddick.

>>> WHATS A lunchbucket game ?

Beats me (and everyone else). Sounds like Tignor was trying to be clever but it fell flat.

Being # 3 in the world doesn't make Roddick a favorite for wimbledon. There are two players, whose names I forget, who are clearly ahead of him. How many times must he get wrecked, without ever reversing the tide, for his fans to be realistic about his chances at the Majors? He's a very good player, no one can deny him that, but he is such a known quantity (partly due to the hyperbolic and premature gype) that longer ranked players are more chanllenging strategically. With Roddick, you know what you've got to do - Get That Monster Serve Back and Make Him Play Tennis, Not Just Serve. Few can do it, but the Best can.

Just wondering...be careful when you're grouping all tennis.com bloggers as "preteen FedKADs" simply b/c they many of them don't care for Andy's game or his on-court antics. I like Andy and he is the most entertaining interview, win or lose. I am a Nadal KAD (former Agassi KAD)and although I respect Federer, I am not a groupie. Also when Federer was calling Djoko "a joke", I think he was referring to his injury timeout in Davis Cup? Can someone confirm/deny?

Arod's a more dynamic TV personality than he is a dynamic tennis player. He shows a sense of humor that's quicker than his feet, and a tongue that's more nimble than he's knees at net. :)

Just Wondering: No one has criticized Andy's comments about his opponents in his interviews, and everyone seems to agree that his press conferences are great fun, whether they are Roddick fans or not.
The criticism is of his behavior *during* the matches against younger and/or low-ranked players such as Murray at Cincinnati 2006 and Tsonga at Australian Open 2007. Even the American TV commentators calling those matches on ESPN disapproved of some of the things he was saying and doing on court. I would imagine that coverage in other nations was much more negative, at least judging by the sort of remarks the BBC commentators were making during Queens--they disparaged Roddick's "macho posturing" during his match against Cilic and it seemed pretty clear they would have preferred someone else to win the tournament.

I think even his biggest fans must admits he's a bit of a bully. He will curse at and bully the lesser well known players like Tsonga, but hey let someone like Roger come along and like a true bully he becomes meek and passive. He reminds me of some of the kids at my school. Go Justine!

kombo,
I think Roddick can be a major threat on grass. He just won the Queens title against MahoooooT , who knocked Ljubicic and Rafa in one day. I will be very nervous if Rafa has to play him (before semis or final)...

Roddick had never a negative impact on me. I liked his attitude in his pressers. That Ross guy was killing himself to take one word against Rafa /Fed/serena . when asked for an advice to Rafa ( during the so-clled slump!), he reminded them that Rafa was world No 2.
and the most important to me was that he fought back. he got conners and he started working and he is again No 3. look at Hewitt, Safin, Ferrero, ...Roddick is still fighting for top positions, even if it means losing to Fed 10 times in the process and get humiliated, but he doesn't give up and I like that a lot.

Masala: yes, the "joke" comment by Federer referred to Djokovic's questionable injury timeouts. (He has said that he and Djokovic are now on friendly terms).

Also, does anyone believe that Roddick would get half the attention and commercial endorsements he gets if he weren't American? He hasn't won a slam in almost 4 years, rarely wins a title and you see him in more commercials then Roger or Nadal. Why? He's American and considered a pretty boy. Go Justine!

Samantha,
endorsement is a market issue. The american market is huge (250+ milion) and it makes sense for the american companies to endorse top players.

I never really liked Roddick, but have always admired his big serve, big forehand and his warrior-like intensity. Sure, he's no Federer or Nadal, but he's won a slam, was ranked #1 and has been at the top of the game for a long time.

Good stuff, Steve. As the many comments above reveal, it's always fascinating to see how elemental and one-on-one the connection to a tennis player is -- how everything from technique to walk to nationality fills in a still-incomplete picture of who these people are and how they win and lose at this oh-so-vulnerable game. We should all be so on display. At least football, baseball and basketball players are subordinated to the institution of the team. No one needed to deconstruct Joe Montana. But tennis... well, that's a lot of the lure, and you did a fine job getting at Roddick 2007.

Good stuff, Steve. As the many comments above reveal, it's always fascinating to see how elemental and one-on-one the connection to a tennis player is -- how everything from technique to walk to nationality fills in a still-incomplete picture of who these people are and how they win and lose at this oh-so-vulnerable game. We should all be so on display. At least football, baseball and basketball players are subordinated to the institution of the team. No one needed to deconstruct Joe Montana. But tennis... well, that's a lot of the lure, and you did a fine job getting at Roddick 2007.

Steve

This, in my opinion, is the best piece I've read from you. Not to take away from any of your other efforts, I think you hit the mark with this one. "A little of both," as you put it, pretty much sums it up, I think.

Yes, Roddick has supplied ome thrillers, my favorite being his 5-set, 4-hour and something win over El Aynaoui at the 2003 Australian. It was a brilliant contest of skills and wills from those two men, and a testament to Roddick's passion for the game that he came away with the W.

You also captured nicely for us the tenor of the match. I felt as though I were there when you portrayed how Roddick backpedaled to the baseline after Mahut netted his forehand pass. Great stuff, there, from both you and Roddick. He's a competitor, there is no doubt, and I suppose at the end of the day I'd rather see a guy ho cares about the outcome than a guy who has all the skills but doesn't.

I also think it's obvious from his pressers that Roddick is keen-witted and sharp-tongued, signs of his intelligence and of his ichotomous personality. He'll clown around and keep his tongue in his cheek for as long as the press are fair, but if he feels crossed or disrespected, he won't turn the other cheek. I have to respect him for that, as well. As should be expected of an intelligent young man with great skill and passion for what he does, Roddick is a complex character, not easy to box up and gift wrap. I like him better for it... except when I don't.

Samantha

When you use a personality to market in America, especially a "narrow" focus such as tennis player, it makes sense to use Andy. He is an American tennis player with personality, a top player with things going on about him, like a big serve, or Connors as coach. Nothing stationary about Roddick. There are a lot of things to go forward about him in the context of America.

sorry that was me above 2:13 pm, inadvertently put Sammantha's name who I was addressing.

thanks, i was worried sam was talking to her self !

Good point Zola - Arod's very tenacious and mentally strong. The reality of Fed's game put Hewitt in a slump, he's only now getting out of. Ferrero slumped miserably once he got a target on his chest. Safin's too temperamental and, at his size, the amount of time he'll be nimble enough to play at this level is very very limited, if not already past.

I give Roddick a hard time on this board, the guy's overexposed, a glittering symbol of the xenophobia of the marketing heads who think it's smart (it's plain old stupid) to replay Lacoste ads featuring a guy who loses in the first round during the French open. Remember last year - what was it then, the ill-fated 'mojo ads'? These are just train wrecks waiting to happen each time they put him on a pedestal that he's close to, but all-too-obvisouly not quite there.

Frances- for once I completely agree with you. I don't like the guy either, never have, and for all the reasons you gave. He is a frat boy through and through. I do like that he is forthcomimng and for the most part pretty honest, but that's not enough. When you think of about what qualities one needs to be a classy, mature, adult in this world, James Blake has it, Andy Roddick does not. I just can't root for the guy.

Patrick- Logging on I noticed Vera Z. withdrew from Wimbledon. That's really to bad, just when it seemed that her game and carrer was starting to come back together, a la Daniella Hantuchova's, injuries have set her so far back again. She too isn't the most likeable player, but I feel for her.

Obviously Andy is good for tennis or everyone wouldn't be having this big argument about him.

He has heart for the sport.. that should be all that matters.

M-life...
this is about Roddick, but since you mentioned Blake, didn't he call ET and then accepted to throw Korolev out in Las Vegas?
I can't stand his game against Fed. He is just huffing and puffing and you want a meteor hit the earth and put all of us out of this misery. At least Roddick knows how to fight. Blake is "I surrender" ...!

class act, I don't know. My friend who watched his game in HAlle ( and she is American) was quite surprised by Blake's bad behavior on court. She said he examined each ball after a call and was obnoxious to his opponent. She said she was quite disappointed.

Zola, I agree with what you said, but I think that endorsement should be based on how well a person performs and their achievements. But in the case of Sharapova who isn't American this isn't true. Justine is the #1 player in the world and I resent the fact that she isn't given the attention and endorsements she clearly deserves based upon her achievements.

Oops, Evie I just saw your post, I thought there were two Samanthas so I used my middle name. Evie thanks for clearing that up.

M-Life,
Your girl Chaki made the QF at the Netherlands and Medina Garrigues was not a threat as you predicted. She will be playing the Vesnina and Kerber winner on Thursday with the winner of Ana-Dani (assuming Dani beat Shaughnessy tomorrow) on Friday if Chaki takes care of business. If Vera Zvonareva was healthy, she would have been one of my floaters for Wimby. She won the mixed doubles title last year with Andy Ram(part of the Erlich-Ram team) and she won Birmingham in 2006.
Only reason I did my contenders and flaoters for RG early was the amount of tournaments they had during the clay season. With only 3 WTA grass tourneys before Wimby, I have to see who is/has adjusted to the grass and Friday's draw before I come out with my list. Jelena confidence has to be at a all-time high since she beat Maria at Maria's favorite tournament(besides Wimby).

Andy has 22 titles and he has been in top 5 since 2003. I believe it is no doubt that he is a great player, whether u like it or not!!!
He beat Marat and Lleyton several times, aren't they great players?
Yes, Mahut played very nice at Queen's, but he is also 25 and he has 0 titles....nobody seems to remember that...

andy roddick is an amazing guy. on the court he might seem to be a bully but thats just his way of pumping himself up. his comments are never toward his opponent. hes just talking to himself. i hate it when people say they dont like him because of his personality on court. everyone is different and everyone expreses themselves in different ways. guys like federer are so boring. they show hardly any emotion even when theyve hit an amazing shot on the most important point. they have no heart and no desire. if you only know about andys tennis then you have no right to dislike him. what he has done off the courts shows what a great guy he truely is. really none of us have the right to judge him. none of us truely know him and we shouldnt judge him for what we see on tv. in my opinion, andy brings a fire to the court that makes tennis worth watching.

Kombo - how about making the one SF and two Finals the last 4 years? Or maybe winning the premier warmup tournament on grass 4 times in the last 5 years? Would you concede that these results make him a favorite?

Yup, Federer is so boring....maybe, he needs a Lacoste commerical.

roddicklover, I understand you sticking up for your man but to imply Federer has not heart or desire is beyond ludicrous. And the Fed has released some primal screams when he beats Rafa who he considers a true rival (Shangai SF - 2006 and Hamburg F - 2007).