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IW: "What the Hell"
Posted 03/22/2008 @ 11 :19 PM

NadalYou never know what the future will bring, but going into 2008 few of us could have conceived of one in which Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal became semifinal fodder. That’s what the two best players in the world have been in the two biggest tournaments of the year so far. First in Melbourne and now in Indian Wells, Federer and Nadal were both drummed out in the semis in straight sets. Today it was by the identically eye-popping scores of 3 and 2.

Eye-popping, yes, but what do these losses by Fed and Rafa mean for the top of the men’s game going forward? In some ways the results are anomalies. Neither guy is going to start losing 3 and 2 to anyone on a regular basis, and neither is likely to make a habit of getting blown out by Jo-Wilfried Tsonga or Mardy Fish. But the cracks in both of their armors grew a few new branches today.

First up was Nadal versus Novak Djokovic, the man who is hunting the No. 2 ranking that the Spaniard has held for three years. This was a 1:00 match on a 90-degree day, the kind of afternoon I associate with a classic grind-the-other-guy-into-the-dust performance by Nadal. But it was Djokovic who was sharp in the opening game. After a few early hiccups, he controlled the middle of the court for the rest of the day and watched as a demoralized and weary Nadal sprayed and shanked his way off the court as fast as possible.

In the second set, Nadal played as badly as I’ve ever seen him play. The comparison that comes to mind is his loss to Youzhny at the U.S. Open in 2007, but even then he seemed more spirited. Against Blake two days ago, he had attacked his returns; today he was passive with them, and he hit short with both his ground strokes. But even at his worst, he never caves and hits a half-hearted, all-or-nothing drop shot the way he did when he was down a break point at 2-4 in the second set. It landed in the bottom of the net and, the match now essentially over, Nadal marched straight to his chair on the sidelines. This followed a series of horrid frame shots and routine misses from both ground stroke wings. Nadal said he was tired, and he had a right to be after his last two matches. But it doesn’t hide the fact that he was also demoralized by Djokovic’s canny, tricky, complete game—the Serb was the better player in every facet of the match.

Through the first set, the two seemed ready to showcase baseline tennis at its best. They fought carefully to carve out a space in the middle of the court that would eventually allow them to get a look at a ball they could aim toward the corners. They were each trying to find a way around the other’s defenses, Nadal with high-kicking topspin, Djokovic by hitting line drives on the rise. The test would be, Who could create the opportunities to hit outside the center of the court, and who could deliver when they got that chance?

In both cases it was Djokovic. He got on top of Nadal’s topspin with his backhand, but even more impressive was how well he defended with his forehand. Typically Nadal takes control of a point with an inside-out forehand that forces his opponent far to his right. Djokovic used a wide-open stance to return those balls, which left him with an easy recovery back to the center of the court. Nadal couldn’t get him scrambling and couldn’t find a safe way to dictate points. The errors started to fly.

For his own part, Djokovic broke down Nadal by working up the lines and taking his time away (something Fish would do well against Federer later). He broke Nadal on a lucky net cord for 5-3, but what matters is how he followed that up in his own service game. Djokovic kept the pressure on with three good first serves, including an ace, and punctuated the set with another ace.

In the second set, Djokovic mixed up his serve well enough to fool Nadal a number of times (including with a half-pace slice in the deuce court that went for an easy ace.) And he had no trouble flicking his forehand short and wide to Nadal’s backhand and then sending a rifle shot up the line for a winner on the next shot. Martina Navratilova has said that she doesn’t love Djokovic’s forehand because it’s “busy.” And the little extra rotation he uses at the end of his backswing does look like an affectation. But does it help him somehow, with variety, spin, angle, trajectory? I can’t say for sure, but few players put the ball in different spots (short and long, crosscourt and down the line) with as much as ease and seeming disguise as Djokovic does with his forehand.

Afterward, Nadal said he wasn’t injured, and that the timeout he took was for a pinched toe. He said he was tired, but what struck me was how cavalier he was about accepting Djokovic as a potential No. 1 this year: “I think he’s not better than Roger,” Nadal said of Djokovic, “but in the first part of the season he play better than [anyone], so going to be big chances for be No. 1 this year for sure. Why not?”

This is just an honest assessment of the situation—you’d never get anything else from Nadal. But for perhaps the first time an honest assessment now means contemplating Djokovic as not just No. 2 in the world, but No. 1. Was this the match in which Djokovic established himself as superior to Nadal? I’m not prepared to say that, but as Rafa himself says when he thinks of how good Djokovic could be: “Why not?” In other words, the sky’s the limit, and everything is up for grabs.

FedBy the time Nadal was finished talking, Federer was down 3-0 to Mardy Fish. The press walked, stunned, to our seats to survey the damage. What we saw was an old-fashioned thumping—Federer was as feeble as Fish was awesome. Federer played as if he were in a daze; some of his return misses looked about as fierce as the ones he was tossing back to Pete Sampras a couple weeks ago.

But make no mistake, Fish beat him. He beat him with deep serves when he needed them, jumping backhand winners on crucial points, and unreachable forehands up the line. Fish said afterward that he wanted to beat him with pace and take Federer’s time away. He implemented the game plan right form the coin toss:

"Sometimes in big situations," Fish said, "I'll tend to receive [if I win the coin toss], just to kind of get my feet under me. Today I said, What the hell. Let's go for it."

Fish went for it in the simplest and most effective way possible: by putting a heavy serve on the line and pounding a heavy forehand into a corner. Even when Fish isn't at his best, it’s tough to get a rhythm against him. But he had it all working against Federer, who had no time to set up and work the point to his advantage. Federer said afterward that his only regret was that he hadn’t done more with Fish’s second serve when he had the chance. Otherwise, he said he’d been beaten by a guy who “took all his chances.” What can you do against that?

Federer’s losses in recent years have come against grinders, but this one came to an attacker. Does that give other attackers hope, or a game plan? We’ll see—go for broke is always a tricky proposition, and nothing to count on, but if Mardy Fish can do it….

It’s a textbook approach—take the other guy’s time away—but it still works. For years, Federer has defended, returned, and backhand-passed his way around all attackers. The big question for the year may be whether he can continue to work that magic with as much confidence now that his expectations of near-perfection have—by necessity, by illness, by the reality of the sport, by losses like today’s—been lowered.

And Federer’s expectations are currently lower than they were at this time last year. That’s hardly surprising: In 2007, he came to Indian Wells on a 41-match winning streak, only to lose in a similarly deflating and somewhat baffling manner to Guillermo Cañas. In the press conference afterward, he credited Cañas, but today he was much more upfront and plainspoken about the fact that Fish had been the better player. Federer then pronounced himself happy with his semifinal finish. These are the realistic words of a guy looking to work his way back to his best form. But the modesty of their ambitions, as well as their prospective quality, were still a little shocking to hear from a 12-time Grand Slam champion. If Nadal is being directly challenged, and perhaps passed, by one player, Federer is in the midst of the most uncertain period of his No. 1 reign. It hardly spells doom, of course—if he wins Key Biscayne, the old ultra-confidence will flow back in a hurry. It’s a part of his makeup by now. But he didn’t show any of it today.

Still, Federer and Nadal, while they didn’t give us much in the semis (let alone win the event), remain good value. No one gives fans more for their money than Nadal. And he gave plenty at Indian Wells, from his tooth-and-nail comeback against Tsonga, to his fabulous pick-ups and forehand bombs against Blake, to his self-deprecating manner in his pressers all week. Today he was asked if he would do anything special for Easter Sunday. “Nothing special, no?” Nadal answered, not quite getting the reporter’s drift. “I would love to go to Los Angeles to watch the Lakers, but [Pau] Gasol is injured.” His own Jesus has an ankle sprain.

Federer wasn’t much of a presence on the courts—he didn’t play Thursday or Friday—but he had his own, much more wry, sense of humor intact in the presser today. He and Bud Collins had this exchange:

“Are you well, Roger?”

“I’m well. How are you?”

“I don’t have to run.”

“Well, I didn’t run much, either.”

If Federer and Nadal will no longer reign as utterly as they have in recent years, they remain class acts and civilized in defeat. For today, let's just call them game’s best champions.

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As Fish and Djokovic wins their matches more easily than anticipated, Federer, Nadal , and the Bryan Brothers go to Miami with NO titles under their name. FSN showed that Federer, for the first time since 2000, had no titles in Jan or Feb. When is the last time Federer did not have a title through 3 months of the season? Reason is that Federer is lacking in the fitness department at the moment and this was evident against Fish, who also played the perfect match by attacking.

By the way, received an email and it said that "TMF is finished".

Patrick, who ever sent that e-mail, you might want to remind them that it's a long season and I wouldn't proclaim TMF is finished. He's in slump, but my money is still on Roger. Even before this tournament started he said it would take him a tournament or 2 to get back in shape and make up for the time lost during the illness. He said he didn't expect too much from this first tournament. He knows his body; he knows where he is. I still think he will be there in the end.

Just think...with the bar Roger has set during the last 4 years, only he can make a SF and the fans and press proclaim it a dissaster! lol! Other players would die for a SF result at a grand slam and master's event!

I think we'll see TMF back in action and by the end of the year, I'm sure us Federer fans will be able to say "we told you so" to all the Federer doubters!

Go Roger!

Are Fish and Tsonga illustrating that you NEED a two-handed backhand to play attacking tennis? Seems almost antithetical, but being able to drive the ball extra hard from the backhand side maybe a requisite for attacking the net in today's game.

"Are Fish and Tsonga illustrating that you NEED a two-handed backhand to play attacking tennis?"

I don't know. I'd happily take the one-handers of Federer, Gasquet, or even Ljubicic as attacking shots over Fish or Tsonga's two-fisters.

Steve, I didn't get to the see the match, but a lot of the people at the crisis center who watched the match described Federer's very poor movement and just letting shots pass by. This is rather unusual, as is the fact that Federer only managed one break point against a guy who served at 34%. I'm not questioning the Fish win--the manner of indicates to me that Federer was not himself; this was partially due to Fish's play, but statistics and accounts seem to point to innate bad form on Federer's part.

Djokovic and Fish deserve all the respect!!!!

Roger and Rafa are still the best. VAMOS!!

It's inevitable that things like this happen to the tennis Alpha Dog. Fed has played more matches than literally anyone over the last four years, the result of having more points to defend than anyone else. He's been the Iron man of tennis. So he gets violently ill and has a long recovery time. He may lose his #1 ranking this year. Ehhhh. Big deal. I don't think he's a guy who will rapidly fade away the moment he can't dominate everyone anymore, like Borg or McEnroe. He has character and thinks rationally. Djoko has been playing great. But Fed utterly dominated everybody at the Masters Championship back in December. Four short months ago. He was completely unconscious. That game hasn't vanished forever.

I've had mono, and it ain't pretty. It really slows you down for awhile after you get over the main attack. It's the payback for Fed having four years of perfect health. Also, I like seeing new blood in the game. I may even buy Djoko's match in the Aussie final from tennisdvds.net.

And good on Mardy Fish for seizing the moment and reviving his career. Anytime someone can say they beat Number One in ANYTHING, they can say they had a career.

Great as usual steve :)

I have to agree about Nadal today, he didn't look anything like the Nadal that played Blake the other night. He didn't fight the way he normally does and overall looked flat in the second. And that failed drop shot, what was he thinking??

I don't think this is the end for Federer, I'm sure it looked grim this time last year with the two losses to Canas, but he came back and had a great year. Its going to be his toughest year to date but I have no doubts he will get his confidence back and retain that number one ranking for another year.

"I'd happily take the one-handers of Federer, Gasquet, or even Ljubicic as attacking shots over Fish or Tsonga's two-fisters."

Perhaps you would. The question is, would they? Gasquet hasn't done anything noteworthy since Wimbledon, Ljubicic since 2006, and Federer ... is Federer. He plays by his own rules.

Fish really beat him? the way Roger was playing today almost anybody in the top 100 could have beaten him. What on earth is wrong with Roger. whatever it is, i hope it goes away soon, that is not the Roger Federer I've known for four years playing like that.He didn't even look like he was trying in some of the rallies and especially on the big points he just nearly gave them away. Come back Roger, I miss you, and I really hate listening to commentators glorifying the people beating you as if they are playing some mind blowing tennis when in reality you are playing like crapola for you and not making it that hard for them with all the errors. And I apply everything I said above to Rafa Nadal too, where has his game gone? No wonder Djokovic is so confident right now.
:-(

Thanks, that was perfect. Exactly what I thought.

I hope I don't have to see the two of them gracious in defeat too often -- gracious in victory is much more their style -- but it's good to know that the world goes on, and Federer and Nadal still say all the right things, still keep the game in perspective.

Well I for one have had enough of watching Federer loose.

Hope he is truely on the mend - and hope to see him winning all his matches - sooner would be better than later - but when they start coming again - the timing will be perfect - and perfectly appreciated.

Bring on Miami

GO Roger!

Night all...

I've been blown away by Federer these past four years. I bet I've said to myself a hundred times (as I'm sure a lot of you have) that I've never seen anybody play the game this beautifully, never seem anyone as good as this guy. Not Borg, not Mac, not Agassi, not even Sampras. Now the inevitable has occurred: hard times - a good ol' slump. But you know what? It happens to everybody - even Tiger - and I'm confident he'll get through it. He's way too good not to. I have no doubt he'll surpass Sampras' record, and be considered one of the GOATs, if the THE GOAT.

That said, it's inevitable that victories will become fewer and farther between in the years ahead, but sweeter, far sweeter as well. As a Federer fan I look forward to those moments. What really gets my goat is how over the top Djoko's camp (especially his parents)were after the Aussie. Not to take anything from the kid - he's really good - but does anyboy out there seriously think he's going to win 12 majors? Nuff said. Go Federer

It was tough for me to watch the Federer/Fish match on TV today. It felt like Roger played two points in the entire match at his usual level - the two match points Fish held on Roger's serve at 1-5 in the second.

I think we may be seeing something with Roger that we frequently see with top caliber athletes in the middle of their careers, a lack of interest. It happened to Agassi. It happened to Michael Jordan (how could we forget Err Jordan?). And it definitely happened to Tiger Woods. Those three have been able to bounce back better than they were before. Others haven't been so fortunate, such as John McEnroe and Bjorn Borg.

I haven't experienced anything like what those folks have, but I can imagine that after a while, the psychological toll of it would become too great for anyone to bear. You start to think that there are other things in life that are more important than sports. You've accomplished everything you've set out to accomplish, and then some, so why continue to work your butt off everyday?

I hope that Federer is able to rebound. He's such a class act, great for the sport, and fantastic to watch. But I think it may take time. The mind is slower to heal than the body. If he is able to come back stronger than before like Woods, Agassi, and Jordan, it will make him a story for the ages. If he goes the way of McEnroe and Borg, he has still had the most dominant four year run in tennis history and accomplished more than anyone ever dreamed he would, including himself.

BTW, Steve, Nadal lost to Youzhny at the US Open in '06, not '07. Great post.

Federer played today as if he still had mono. An absolute dreadful display. You know, regardless of how great Fish played, there's a reason Roger never lost to him...I'm sorry, but I don't buy the "Fish outplayed him" argument. Roger played about 60% today. (Sorry if I sound too much like Serena right now, but anyone who was watching this match--I mean, how could you disagree?)

first:
As i see Roger will play Estoril !? Does he start do dig in smaller turnaments to gain some points or just to prepare for clay?
Anyway i dont remember him playing turnaments for less then 250points for longer time. Estoril is 200
http://www.estorilopen.net/1/en/home/default.asp

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lets take a look at next three monts and points

Rafa will have to defend 3530points in that period;
finals/wins
m.carlo 500
barcelona 300
rome 500
hamburg 350
RG 1000
WB 700

He sould'nt have problems to defent ~180piont in QF or 4R
miami 125
Queens 55

Federer defend 2700
Djokovic defend 1945

Thats mean that in next 3 months nadal defends ~60% of his total points. So it will be interesting to see how will Rafa play on clay. One thing is near shure: if Rafa does not manage to defend RG title he will be no.3.
It will be hard to expect that Rafa can gain more points than he have, most likely he will loose some.
In that period Djokovic defend 1945 points, nearly the half less then Rafa, so Nole have much more space for gaining points. While Rafa defend 6 finals, Djokovic defend SF’s, QF, 4R (only one W – Estoril).

Rafa is now 400-500 points ahead Djokovic, so it is enough to loose twice in semis on turnaments he defend to fell even with Djokovic (with assume that Djokovic gain nothing!) If Djokovic take (for example) MonteCarlo or Rome it is likely that he vill be no.2

For Djokovic, it was crucial to defend 850points form IW and MI last year and he is on the right way to defend it.

What about Roger? He is one big ? (question mark). He started badly last year (except AO) but he came out of crissis later. This loose from Fish looks for me like one from Volandri In Rome.
He is relatively secure thill Wimbledon, he surely must be focused in Mcarlo, Hamburg and RG

Anyway, this spring will be very very interesting

about Federer and mono:

Does anyone remember when Ancic had mono ?
He couldnt play longer then 15min's. If Federer have mono he shurely could not play at all. Any form of fisical activity would be forbiden for him. When some have mono, any kind of excesive physical activity is life-dangerous!!
Ancic couldn play for 6 monts!!!

I dont know what kind of mono he have? Does he had mono when playing vs. Ljubicic couple of days ago.

Something is very suspicious with that story.
It sounds more like an excuse for me.

It is better that Fish won overFederer than Federer facing Djokovic in that form. Surely Djokovic will win the match. Now, Fish has a far better chance of beating Djokovic with that kind of game rather than Fed. Fed'd game is now well read by the opponents. Heshoud get a coach and practice more because he lacks consistency this time and his serve is to easy to handle now.

Someone wrote in ESPN forum:

"It is apparent that Federer lost against Fish to avoid facing Djokovic in the final.
Simply, he could not stand another devastating loss against Djoko, that was in prospect. But he cannot keep avoiding him forever. We'll se what's his next plan. I am sure, fed has something on mind.

During the Fish clash federer hit 2 aces, ONLY!! When did that happened last time? And that was against Fish!!
He could be having losing streak, tired, out of concentration, facing inspired opponent...BUT, he couldn't forget how to hit aces over night??

Federer lost because Fish was stronger caliber?? I don't buy it.
Truly believe that had Nadal won semi, fed would tore Fish off.

So, now, we can say that Fed is scared of facing Djoker! Well, if Djoker wins Miamy (counting his potential win in IW), after Monte Karlo and Rome Fed could be already dethroned!!"

And that's 1.5 month from now on!!

Heu Tennis Kad,
I just wanted to take issue with your comment about Tiger Woods. He did NOT lose interest or focus; he changed his swing. Okay, tutorial over, Lol!
Jim

CuMA

"Federer could not stand another devastating loss against Djoko.."

Hmmmmm..you've got me thinking...

Mono affects everyone differently...Please, Roger looked terrible today

What the heck indeed! For Mr. Cool and Mr Excitement to both lose again in the semis on the same day this year is something no one could have predicted.

"If Federer and Nadal will no longer reign as utterly as they have in recent years, they remain class acts and civilized in defeat. For today, let's just call them game’s best champions."

Not that I am losing faith in these guys, but I am taking some comfort in your words. Absolutely agree that they are two of the most gracious guys on tour, always respectful of the victor in defeat.

Being a Nadal fan, there is still some disappointment that he did not have enough left in him to fight back after he broke and was broken back straightaway in the second set. Is this the longest time he has gone without a title, 9 months since the FO 07? But let's not take the win away from Djokovic.

Mardy Fish, finally! Though less of an agile player compared to American contemporaries Roddick and Blake, to his credit, he pressed Federer, got some spectacular returns in including one well-placed lob from what I saw on my TV. Federer, to me, looked like he was in a trance, almost zombie-like in his movements. There were few spurts of brilliance, and I noticed at times he did not even put his racket to the ball --- 2/17 returns on first serve? Since when did that happen? This is one instance where the coach factor could have helped when you play someone you have not played in a long time, someone who several years back, along with Roddick and Blake and who's the other guy?... was touted as one of 4 talented American youngsters who could carry on the torch for Pete Sampras.

Yesterday is gone, today is for reflecting, tomorrow is another day ... on to Miami!

Funny that with all the conspiracy theories. Federer loses since he is afraid to meet Djokovic in the finals? That is a one of the most stupidest things I have ever heard. Remember Nadal? When he constantly beat Federer in the finals? Did Roger try to avoid it? No, he did not. So why of the sudden he should try to avoid Djokovic? Federer never displayed such kind of attitude, and I do not think that any tennis player ever lost so that he did not play next player. It is not a team sport, where you can afford tactical losses in order to gain wins later. If you lose, you lose.

cuMA wrote:

Someone wrote in ESPN forum:

"It is apparent that Federer lost against Fish to avoid facing Djokovic in the final."


Eerily, because of how Fed played, the thought crossed my mind briefly but immediately got dispelled for the following reasons: (1) Looking back at the match, Mardy Fish played good, not excellent, but surprised Federer with his passing shots and BTDLs. (2) Federer is TOO MUCH of a professional to do that!

mpiktas: I totally agree with you. Wow, whoever wrote thay must be out of his mind. Federer is still the best player out there and to think that he intentionally lost a match just to avoid facing Djoko in the finals is absurd.

I am convinced that in the first two months of this year, Fed's problem is physical (health). But this time, I think it's psychological. And if I'm correct, I hope he handles it well. This time around he must have the mentality of competing for the top spot; not maintaining the top spot, as he may have been accustomed to. The trivalry is bringing beauty to tennis, don't you think?

I'm not really a Nadal fan. In fact, I immediately thought Djokovic will be the next number one after he broke through last year. But this article (and Peter Bodo's) somehow got me sad for him too.

Oh Steve! You are exactly what a tennis-correspondent should be! I love reading your posts!

Kids, have you ever heard of tanking? Rog had a walkover right? Must have been all worn out? Yes, playing exos where the real money is. Tier 1's back to back are not a top players' favorite thing. If it looked like he played at 60% its probably because he did. Miami is the more important event with the Majors and YEC. Don't be KAD's to presupposed virtue. At least Justine is honest with the CMV and won't even try. Relapses can happen with mono, but don't be surprised to see TMF reemerge
in Miami. He's happy with semi's because it was all he wanted.

Federer did not look on the court like the GOAT that he is. Something was not right. What if he bet on himself to lose? Sounds maybe crazy, but he's been doing a lot of things purely for money lately, and with this match's odds he could have made millions. It is very easy to arrange. And why not? He's already gained enough points by then to keep his ranking safe for a while, and one semi-final loss is not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things.
Also, I did not see Mirka in the stands, was she there? If not, that's very unusual as well.

Well played fish, we all know tht is not the roger we accustom to see...we are praying for you Roger wat ever wrong we hope u will get better,,, we miss seeing u in almost all those final. we ask for another two years at the top because wit out you and Nadal wit his big heart we feel like we not getting out worths....God bless to all you tennis player out there.

CuMA wrote:

"It is apparent that Federer lost against Fish to avoid facing Djokovic in the final.
Simply, he could not stand another devastating loss against Djoko, that was in prospect. But he cannot keep avoiding him forever. We'll se what's his next plan. I am sure, fed has something on mind.

Truly believe that had Nadal won semi, fed would tore Fish off.

So, now, we can say that Fed is scared of facing Djoker! Well, if Djoker wins Miamy (counting his potential win in IW), after Monte Karlo and Rome Fed could be already dethroned!!"

And that's 1.5 month from now on!!

***

Wery possible. At least he would have no chance against ND here at IW. Novak plays technically superb tennis at the moment.

What's more important for now is that Roger picked up points, enough to secure himself from Rafa. Sadly, if Djokovic wins he earns points closer to Rafa. If time comes, I'd like Rafa to be number 1. But I hope Roger stays longer!

One of my first thoughts was about the mono and my second was where is his girlfriend??

"Was this the match in which Djokovic established himself as superior to Nadal?"

NO.

Djokovic may even surpass Nadal as No. 2 this year, but that still does not equate to supremacy over the current No. 2.

I would like to see both face-off in the FO again.

I would like to see both face-off in Wimbledon again.

The we shall see.

The mono will probably be a factor for a while. Keep in mind it not only saps your energy; it saps your will.

I'm still predicting Mirka is pregnant.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Fed, well, didn't "throw" the match, but he might think there might be some reasons to lose. He had already picked up a couple points and it might be in his interest not to let Djokovic get too comfortable beating him. Unless Roger is 100% , he may not want to face Djoko except in Slams. That way, Djokovic may be a little more nervous and unaccustomed to Fed's shots.

Also, I'm guessing that Fed has been gleaning some advice from Sampras lately. I can almost hear Pete saying, "As you get older, focus on the slams. That's what you'll be remembered for." And that 's where the big $ is too.

*If Federer and Nadal will no longer reign as utterly as they have in recent years, they remain class acts and civilized in defeat. For today, let's just call them game’s best champions.*

Amen.

Rafa is nothing but a claycourter and it is already clear that Nole is the superior player.

Great post, Steve, I really, really enjoy coming to a place that embraces talking tennis.

I thought both guys lost in the same manner, and I didn't even realize that they had lost with the same scorelines. For Nadal, at least he lost to a contemporary, and he went down swinging. Federer looked as though his raquet weighed 100 lbs. He chipped every backhand return and most of his regular backhand swings. Nadal's focus was elsewhere; I've never seen him shank as many returns and backhands as he did against Djokovic. Both losses came down to service returns, although Federer couldn't buy a great service game.

Both were dispiriting losses, but for me, the whole 'I had mono' was a shot in the dark, and Federer looks to me like he just doesn't have the same motivation as he did circa '07. Nadal had better get his bearings because Djokovic isn't going to be satisfied with being 2nd or 3rd best...

Was Mirka in the player's box at Dubai? Can't remember.

Something's very wrong because she's wasn't at the Fed/Fish match.

Other TW threads are suggesting she's pregnant. Or maybe has mono as well. Information? Thoughts?

I hope this post doesn't sound like the tabloids. Mirka is an integral part of the Federer package.

FoT,
Already reminded the e-mailer about the long season after I read your post earlier this morning. I am willing to give Federer time for his fitness to round into form. Believe Pagnini is going to join Roger at Miami for fitness work because Estoril is only about 3 weeks away and Roger wants to give a serious run for Roland Garros.

Well.....It doesn't matter if these two great guys lost their matches! There are still more matches to come and I know Novak's happier moments are soon gonna end! Roger is gonna return.... and that day is surely gonna come! He is the best player in the universe and still the NO.1! Though he has been losing matches this year that doesn't mean that this is the end of his career! He seemed so sad yesterday after the match....instead of encouraging him this media people keeps talking about his ranking! Whatever people say but Roger's fans are always with him and always gonna support him!

I don't know what was going on with their games, but human behavior is common to all of us. From where I was sitting in the stands - many of us were commenting that, in terms of body language alone, neither Federer nor Nadal gave off any vibe other than wanting to be anywhere but where they were. As for Nadal, Steve wrote that when Rafa was receiving at 3-5 in the 3rd against Tsonga, his trademark "Vamos" Fist Pump after winning the first point in the 9th game changed the tone in the arena, letting everyone know this was still a match. At no time was that mindset present in the Semi - the two fist pumps I saw were of the phoned-in variety. There's no reason for him not to fight like he always does when's he's losing. And Djokovic was hardly playing a Lights Out brand of tennis yesterday , since he was broken in his second service game. Nadal's forehand was missing by several feet on many occasions. There's just no reason that shot of his should miss by that much that often with all his Safety Topspin. Most shocking was Nadal's lack of fight, his almost disinterest. More telling: Nadal, the guy who keeps everybody waiting in every way possible, was up & to the baseline in each game BEFORE the umpire ever called "time" ending the changeover breaks. Imagine that: Nadal standing there waiting for Djokovic!! Rafa was playing (by his standards) like he was double parked, or had a date with a hottie he didn't wanna miss. Nadal hurrying his customary deliberate paces on his own was the most telling thing to me. My gut says Nadal's mind was focused elsewhere and he wanted out of there, for whatever reason.

Ditto Federer. Bad serving and sluggish movement told the story really. There were some shots he didn't even bother to try to run down. But all credit to Fish, he capitalized on every 2nd Serve he got (and he got plenty to choose from), chipping and charging a lot. That said, Federer was not Federer today, for whatever reason. He was a shadow of himself, and his lack of interest in playing this match was almost as palpable as Nadal's.

I'd resist going Machiavellian but for one thing I read last year in a column by Steve after the Hamburg Final (and I have to think it was plausible enough to even show up in the piece). Steve wrote that heard a theory posed by someone he knew that Nadal losing that match "set Federer up" for the French - meaning the pressure was off Nadal & his streak and was squarely on Federer's back to win at Roland Garros. Could each of them have decided to do the same number on Djokovic??? Roger & Rafa can't have lots of love for Novak, due to his Nadal imitations & publicly trash talking Federer as being "over". A huge stretch I know - but I do wonder if there's not some method to the madness of having that glaring spotlight on Djokovic all by himself. The weight of expectation by prognosticators can get VERY heavy- and things written about you get ugly when you disappoint these same prognosticators (go ask Federer & Nadal about that!!). Roger & Rafa might like having the pressure off of them for a while. Just a thought.

Fed lost to Fish for a simple reason. He thinks he is not yet ready to take on Djoko and he just did not want to lose to him second straight time. So he lost to Fish. The reason I say this is that his first serve percentage was much lower than usual. Even his first serve placement was terrible. Plus, he did not make any effort to raise his game.

First of all can I say, what great sportsman they are. You can tell when people are being sarcastic or rude but these two are neither. They take their losses in stride. It's like a learning experience for them. They even have a sense of humor, when many players would be testy. I give these two major props, Roger came into this tornament not at his best and had high expectations. Unfortunatly someone played better then him (go mardy!) and he excpeted it and has moved on. Good for him. Also lets look at Nadal's impressive run. He came into this ready to win the title again. He nearly lost in the 4th round to Tsonga. Infact Nadal could have just given up or said "I can do another tornament" when he was down 2-5. But no, that's not Nadal. He stuck through the match and went on to win. Not to mention he finally was able to beat Blake. Who has beat Nadal 4 out of the 5 times they have played. After yesterday's loss, Nadal and Federer took it in the best way possible and are ready to move on. Their not just great tennis players or role models. Their great people. Good for them. Has for the Mardy and Novak match, I am fans of both of them. But I am American so I must root for Mardy. Not to mention Mardy is ranked 98th seed and for him to possibly beat 4 players in the top ten would be amazing. Good luck, and may the best man win. =)

Somebody just wipe the smug of this guy's face. I dunno how he (Justim Gimelstob) is getting the gig to be a tennis commentator. He is not qualified (did he went deep in any real tournament?) and neither his mannersims look real. He is just awkward in front of that camera. Stop smiling will you Justin? And what is the rant about Federer anyway? Get a sense of perspective!!!

Steve: as you know I am a regular reader but an infrequent commenter here. I'd just like to say that your coverage from Indian Wells this week as a whole has been outstanding - thankyou.

One of the interesting questions for me is the confidence levels of the top 3 players right now, and to what extent that is having an effect on their relative performances. We know that Rafa is a confidence player (so can take some comfort in his gritty defeats of Tsonga and Blake this week on his least favoured surface). We know that Djokovic has been drinking at the well of confidence in light of his AO victory, and that some of his poorer results in the weeks following (notably DC and Marseille) were linked with a severe flu virus, so probably haven't sapped his belief, in that the illness now appears thoroughly thrown off.

I guess, though, that part of Federer's aura and self-belief over the past few seasons has flowed from his knowledge that he is as well-prepared physically as he can be, and that has been absent this year. After his stellar results of the past few seasons taken as a whole, I wonder to what extent these (i.e. his knowledge of the heights he has been capable of in the past) inoculate him against a loss of confidence. I'd imagine that, if he can get back into what he would consider peak physical form, that confidence will flow again if he is able to produce results that echo his previous glories. But, it's an interesting question, given the usual focus on his game, to contemplate to what extent Federer is a confidence player, and the ease or otherwise of the road ahead in bouncing back against a newly-emboldened Djokovic in particular. And not forgetting that we will soon be heading into the part of the year that has been dominated by Rafa for the past few seasons, which is, of course, physically demanding in terms of stamina. And despite references to his injuries that keep cropping up in various places, I've seen nothing to suggest that Rafa isn't feeling fit - if he wasn't, he would doubtless be intending to skip Davis Cup in April as he did last year, but he's made himself available. And we know how confident Rafa feels once he steps onto the red stuff.

So - what are Federer's realistic RG expectations this year, especially if he is not at his physical peak by then? Right now it's an open question, given the nature of the illness that he is recovering from. Rod Laver is only one of many players to note how physically demanding it is to win Roland Garros.

I'm not casting doubt on Federer's ability to bounce back ultimately - sooner or later. But I am finding the potential shifts at the top of the ATP pretty interesting right now. With an ascendant Djokovic, and a Nadal due for time on his best surface, I wonder how the rankings will look - especially after Wimbledon.

I love all the excuses by the die hard Fed fans everytime he loses:
1. It must be the mono
2. Because of the walkover he was too rested.
3. It was too hot for him

Enough with all the excuses. Just like the Australian Open he got outplayed.
Maybe it's time that Fed considers gettng a real coach.

BTW Nole is not going away anytime soon so get used to him.

Oh please, even IF he wanted to close to Fish, he wouldn't have done so by 6-3 6-2.
Besides, it's unprofessional to lose on purpose, it's just not Federer's tournament. His chance to pick up will always come; might not be this month or even this year, but I'm sure Federer will still pick his game up like all great champs :)

If you look at the big picture Federer accomplished his mission: controlling points for #1 race and try to ease back into the competitive routine without stressing his body too much. With Nadal not winning and him making it to the semi, he is in good shape for Miami. With the two back to back Masters, for him at this stage, this was a good accomplishment.

Roger is looking ahead for the whole season and he exactly knows where his body and prep are at the moment.

It was a disappointing loss for Rafa. I was hoping he'd play like he did against James Blake in the QF third set.
I've always wondered why he doesn't adapt his more agressive grasscourt style to hardcourts. He is totally commited to being agressive when playing on grass. I think he'd have more success on the hard stuff if he played that way.

He's going to have to do SOMETHING to play better on hardcourts. Guys like Nole and Jo-W are not going away. And while he might be able to get past the early stages of tournaments playing defensively, the recent pattern is that it takes a lot out of him and he is spent by the time he gets to the quarters or final.

Luckily, the life giving clay season is around the corner. I hope he wins all three Masters Series tournaments this time around, in addition to Roland Garros of course ; )

Vamos King of Clay!!!

Federer is boring. Better to quit until it's not too late.

That has to be the first time I have ever heard Federer be gracious, funny, classy, and complimentary in an interview after losing. Finally, the Ego King is learning how to lose properly and it's about damm time.

what is wrong with american tv? exciting upsets and no where to watch it! I think fed is just rebounding back from the mono thing, things take time. For us mere mortals, taking time off from tennis is even hard to bounce back from and get back to form. I'm more worried about Nadal being purely the king of clay...As for Djoker, he's got a good game, who knows where it'll take him, but he's got to back up the AO WIN WITH SOMETHING BIG>

Backhandlob, what credibility do you expect to have with sweeping statements like that, especially when a factual review disqualifies them?

Nadal is not just a claycourter--anyone who can't see that yet is likely to think that broad daylight looks black. Nadal has beaten nearly every top player on hard court (on which a disproportionate amount of points are played). He has beaten Federer, Djokovic, Davydenko, Ferrer, Roddick, Gasquet and most recently Blake and Tsonga. Without the clay season, he wouldn't be number two, but he'd almost certainly still be Top Ten.

Further, you call someone a claycourter like it's a bad thing. When was the last time an American made the second week at RG, or the quarters in a claycourt tournament? Right. People still respect American tennis though--Nadal being the first. Once he was asked about the supposed "decline" of US tennis, and his answer was: "I don't see any decline. Roddick is number four (he was at the time) and Blake is number nine. Maybe it's not like the days when Sampras was one and Agassi was two, but I think that's still pretty good, no?".

As for Gimelstob, he played Nadal only once--and it was two years before his (rather pathetic) retirement year. They played on a HARD COURT in 2005, and Nadal won. I think that was the year Nadal bowed out of the US Open in the, what, third round? Or was it second?

Gimel is even worse commentator than he was a player. Not only he never shuts up, his diction and the nasal vocal inflections bring to mind the proverbial nails on the chalkboard. Stick to blogging, Justin, - you've got a voice strictly for print media.

IMHO Federer's health is still a question. My understanding is that mono can linger and can recur if the victim gets exhausted. When Federer lost to Djok in Oz he had poor footwork. It was somewhat subtle then, but he wasn't moving well. Here against Fish the problem seemed much worse. Yes, Fish was hitting out, but harder than what Fed has eaten up from Blake and Roddick? I don't think so. Remember, Fish only served about 30% -- and won? Recovering from mono and playing Fed's schedule (Olympics between Wimb and US Open) could be tough. Going back a few years, does anyone remember when Fed said he got so exhausted between the French Open and Wimbledon that he sat in a park, so tired he couldn't keep walking, but he recovered? Fed could face a tough choice between playing enough matches to get sharp again, and playing too much and having a recurrence of illness.

hey, fed wasn't at his best but no way is he ducking djokovic or try to set him up, imo.

thanks for other thoughts, nick, ros, and everyone. and whover went into the points race coming up, you're right, i think we'll be seeing changes and the first race for no.1 to last past the u.s. open in a while.

I wouldn't try to read to much into Federer's results. He had no off season training due to illness, and he has had very few matches. Fish played great, but Federer was way sub-par, missing easy shots by wide margins. Even Federer, at the beginning of the tournament, said he needed to get fit, and get some matches under his belt. It's obvious in his lack of consistency. The only question, is will he be able to catch up with no significant downtime in the next few months.

i believe that federer is most definately still suffering from mono. Its easy to see. If u watch highlights from past years theres no way that a player can go from that good to a losing record that fast. i think federer just needs to rest and take it easy in his training. although ever since nadal got his knee surgery he does seem much more vunerable, I think nadal's riegn as the second best is over and djocovic is def the better palyer. I think federer could have a chance to win the french if he recovers his health, and he will win wimbledon for sure...if he gets back to the way he plaved last year, he will win the US...he is easily the best player that ever lived and is jus in a bad period of time, dont worry he is gonna come back and dominate.

I really don’t like Djoko, he bounces the ball way too much, his head is way too big both literally and figuratively, and he's generally annoying. I hope Fed and Nadal reestablish their dominance over this tool sometime soon!

hahaha,

Why is everyone making excuses for Roger, and taking a lot away from Fish. Fish took out 2 top ten's b4 he played roger, and roger made a mistake by overlooking fish and worring out Djokovic. Fish Capitilized on Roger's mistake. Clearly Roger is afraid of Djokovic, and i won't be suprised if he looses the no. 1 ranking to either Nadal or Djokovic. Everyone will take advantage of Roger's Weekness.

lots of good postings here.

i agree that novak is a better all around player than nadal and will take over #2 soon. (despite the fact that i think his mom, and family in general, are nut jobs).

i also think nadal's clay court dominance will be challenged successfully this year.

i never got to watch the roger/mardy match but judging from comments on this post and others, roger was out to lunch physically while mardy played the match of his life. always give credit to the winner, however, we do know that fed in form would take out mardy.


last year when canas took out roger twice everyone thought he was the second coming of the tennis world; then nalbandain took him out twice in the fall and the same rhetoric. another post proclaimed that federer will now be facing the '33 tournaments without a win' streak a la sampras. i think we all know that won't be happening. so what if he lost to fish? he'll be back.

Posted by fishfan 03/23/2008 @ 2:44 PM

That has to be the first time I have ever heard Federer be gracious, funny, classy, and complimentary in an interview after losing. Finally, the Ego King is learning how to lose properly and it's about damm time. "

Then you must not have read many Fed interviews, he's one of the most complimentary players when he wins or loses and he is often funny if people would bother to notice.

Nole and Fed have the toughest part of their season coming up... clay. Nadal is licking his chops to get off the hardcourts.

Plus he just played the hardest schedule at Indian Wells of anyone, with the exception of Fish.

Its going to be interesting to see how well Djoko and Fed play on the red, and how well nad plays on grass. Then we will know!

Yes,Federer lost by Fish but he still is the number one tennis player in the world

Someone said that Nadal 'looked as if he would rather be anywhere else than on the court'.

Maybe, but he had really long practices the night before and then again the morning of the match, when he looked very loose and comfortable and focused. He seemed pretty much ready for it.

I think it was just one of those days for both Nadal and Federer. They never got going, they played badly. No mono or injuries, just dreadful play. Not even determined by their opponents.

Overall, I thought the Friday and Saturday matches were bitterly disappointing. Everyone seemed to wilt in the heat. The women's final was just okay: the men's final was a big step up in quality and competitiveness. Fish played much better in the final than in the semi or the quarter.

The four Serbian dudes with the matching blue shirts (they're from Houston, Texas) were sitting in front of me during the semis and quarters. They only moved up to the top with the other Serbs for the final day. One of the four was heavier, more animated, more the class clown, than the others. He tried harder for a reaction and shouted a lot more. He was shushed a bit for shouting 'Nadal sucks' and even shouting before a serve. But at least one of the others was clapping for some of Nadal's great play (there was a little). So to me it was striking to see how even a few of the crowd being jerks can spoil things. Still it wasn't *that* bad.

Well, it's nice to see that people aren't afraid of Roger now, nor are they happy with a few games in each set on their way to a loss. Djokovic has rallied the young guns to stand up and take it to Federer. If only others had stepped up to do the same the past few years instead of being scared of him, he wouldn't have won all those Slams that he most certainly does not deserve.

Well, it's nice to see that people aren't afraid of Roger now, nor are they happy with a few games in each set on their way to a loss. Djokovic has rallied the young guns to stand up and take it to Federer. If only others had stepped up to do the same the past few years instead of being scared of him, he wouldn't have won all those Slams that he most certainly does not deserve.

What the hell is this excuse about illness for Federer?
Many players have come back from SURGERY and keep winning.

Let's not use a vague "illness" as an excuse... Maybe if Fish didn't have all HIS past PHYSICAL injuries and surgeries, he might have played more often and taken Federer out before he won most of his championships.

How about, what if tennis was a game widely available & affordable to get training & coaching for everyone like basketball is, then how good would Federer or Nadal really be?

Face facts, Both Federer and Nadal are showing their weaknesses as players are getting better... simple as that.


Federer is not afraid of djokovic and will never be. Its djokovic who is afraid of Federer. Djokovic is just lucky and his luck will end soon. I'll bet that he will drop his ranking by the end of this year.

Steve,
another great post along with Pete's "made of struggle". Two great articles. Thanks a lot for all your posts from IW.

Saturday was just a strange day. I guess I was half-prepared to see Rafa lose. I was not shocked. He has to great wins against Tsonga and Blake to take away from IW and that should be great. I could understand that he might have been tired. But I was shocked to see Federer not moving and not making any effort on the court. My first guess was that lack of match play. But in Wimbledon he was able to come back and play after about a week. Maybe it is harder on him because it is the beginning of the season. I really hope it is not "mono". I want to see him completely recovered from whatever is bothering him.

i think on Saturday we were reminded that these great guys are made of flesh and blood like the rest of us. We are so used to see them win ( more for Fed) that these losses seem strange. For both of them, I hope they remain healthy. The rest they can figure it out, as they are both exceptional champions.

"Oh please, even IF he wanted to close to Fish, he wouldn't have done so by 6-3 6-2.
Besides, it's unprofessional to lose on purpose, it's just not Federer's tournament. His chance to pick up will always come; might not be this month or even this year, but I'm sure Federer will still pick his game up like all great champs :)"


His real fans can't possibly believe the man with as much class as Federer would lose on purpose. I just can't except this.

Nadal is a better player than Djokovic, regardless of all the rumors going around. Djokovic still has to prove himself. He might have a pretty solid and lucky streak so far this year, but he has to play at this level for the next 2-3 years to be considered equal to Federer and Nadal. I think Nadal will make a strong come back this year and will clinch #1 by the end of 2008. Vamos Rafa!

I am a huge Roger Federer fan. Heck I picked up the tennis racquet because of him. I tape most of his games. Ive never seen a more beautiful shotmaker than him. I admire his class act. But, it is time to admit it. His invincibility armor is more than cracked. The kings reign is over. I am hoping that he does win the French before he quits. Thanks Roger.

Felizjulianidad (3:33p) Thank you for taking on Backhandlob's ridiculous dismissal of Rafa by reviewing the facts of Rafa's accomplishments.

Michael Lee: I hope you are right about our guy.

In discussions of the ATP rankings and Rafa's hold on #2, people seem to focus more on Rafa than on Nole. Nole has points to defend, too, e.g. master's title in Canada, finalist in the US Open. Let's keep that in mind as we hope for the best from and for Rafa.

Vamos Rafa!

I was sad to see Federer lose to Fish. It's difficult I think to establish whether Fish won or Federer lost, but I think the latter is the case. I've never seen Federer as disinterested on a tennis court as on Saturday.

nic

Rafa has had great results on hard courts this year. Beating Tsonga and Blake back to back got to give him great onfidence on hard courts. Clay is his domain and he is conquering the hard courts as well, maybe inch by inch. But he is getting there and still can improve a lot.
I am not so sure about your prediction on his demise. Let's wait and see!

aaaaalllllllooooooooooooo penali

to whomever said is novak capable of winning 12 majors, i would reply, he's only 20, perhaps he's capable of winning 15. Time will tell. His game might not be as pretty or refined as Fed's, but I think he combines the best of both Fed and Nadal, and his game seems pretty complete. No one thought anyone would surpass Pete as the greatest player of all time, and along comes Fed. Everyone now says the same thing about Fed, and perhaps Novak is the one on the rise.

Take heart, if that happens, someone will come along who will surpass Novak as well. It's the way of the athletic world.

I am a huge fan of Rafa Nadal for years and I also admire Roger Federer and strongly believe that theres only these two best tennis players in the world thats truly worth and deserving, I think that they're just having a dip right now or perhaps too tired being on top. They need to rest a bit and get back winning the rest of the tournaments until end of the year.
If Rafa can read this, I strongly suggest that you avoid giving free and easy shots to your opponent, you are one extraordinary player and capable of finishing one title after the other but your opponents were all getting lucky with how easy your shots are and I think you and your coach should work on that area, I am very positive that you will be able to make a strong comeback!

V A M O S R A F A!!!


Cheering from you Minnesota


Majoy W.

Could Fed's timing suffer from his exo's with Sampras? I think it is a possibility.

fed,does,nt have to win ever again,and he,s still the best player ive ever seen. period......

fed,does,nt have to win ever again,and he,s still the best player ive ever seen. period......

I agree with Walter. Fed could have half as many Grand Slams as he has now and he'd still be the best I've seen. It appears that his illnesses have taken their toll. It was clear even in his victories at the Australian but has been confirmed by the shocking loss to Fish. I watched some highlights of his win over Ljubicic and that wasn't too impressive either. His forehand seemed pretty on but he was chipping a lot of backhands and making a lot of errors. I hope he recovers and comes back strong because I'm not ready for the Fed era to end like this.

I agree with alot of the article ( and articles on the same subject in this website) in that Novak is a better player than rafa on hard courts and that he is probablty the number 1 player on this surface at the moment, but I dont think Novak is a better player than rafa nor do I think he ever will be. Rafa has been at this level for 3 years - novak 8 months. To look at the greatness of a player you need to be judged over time and on all surfaces. Rafa is head and shoulders above all players on clay and has BETTER RESULTS in indoors than novak and better results at wimbledon, and as I have stated has had this level for 3 years. It also annoys me that alot of commentators havent made a big deal of the MASTERS cup when Novak was made to look human. I actually like Novak ( believe it or not!) and hope for 2 things in the future that Rafa can raise his game on hard to challenge Novak on this surface and that Novak can do likewise on Clay.

I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading here. Like you people KNOW what's going on in Roger and Rafa's heads and lives - conspiracy theories about why they lost their matches. Enough, already.
Roger had Mono, do you know anything about recovery from Mono, especially for a top athlete? He could play a few matches looking fine and then BAM!! your energy is sapped, you feel like you've been run over by a bus. Roger is playing himself back into shape, and it will come gradually. He'll peak at the right time, as will Rafa. And if they don't, so what? It's not the end of the world.
Regarding Mirka, it's absolutely no-one's business.
Rafa was not 100% either, and played two very tough matches on what is obviously not his best surface.
I would hate to see the spotlight-seeking, making-fun-of-other-players, obnoxious Djokovic at the top. He has no class and is quite simply going out of his way to try to win fans in US, but every now and then the real Novak comes out - you don't even have to look too closely.

Let's see: Mardy Fish is 26, never won a master's title or slam title, is ranked 98th in the world and races through Indian Wells. Whodathunkit? Where did he suddenly get the talent and energy to do this? I could understand a low-ranked player doing it if they were young and up-and-coming, but someone who's just about out of the game completely with no prior history of ever being a winner? Food for thought!

Even though he went out in the semi of Indian Wells, Fed still comes out a winner in ranking points. Let's not hand off the #1 title until we actually have someone with more ranking points than Fed. That's how you'll know the true #1. It was maybe only a year ago (maybe less) that the pundits were proclaiming, "Yeah, but Nadal is the real #1." Now they're singing another tune. Don't people ever get tired of looking foolish? Someday, Fed will no longer be #1; this is a given. It's not today, OK?

Roger Federer is a classy champion in and out of the game. no question about that. I will always put him as my favorite player to watch. but his domination is over. mono aside, other players have seen his weakness never seen before. Every single challenger focuses on it, just like what Fish did. If he does regain his form, it wont be the same Federer machine of 2 years ago. Rafa is great on clay, but im afraid Novak is breathing down on his neck very fast. As much as I dont like Novak the way I like Fed and Rafa, I give him dues for being the best player on the planet at this time.

Think about it for a second, Djoko had a extremely easy draw before Rafa. Rafa on the other hand was coming off of back to back grueling 3 setters in which he played two very big rivals. Rafa was worn out and nobody can really blame him. Besides that since when was it a surprise for nadal to not make the finals on hard courts. I know he won it last year and all,but if you think about making the semi's isn't really a bad outcome for him. He has been on worse losing streaks before. I personally think he is playing the best hard court tennis of his career right now.

Dee,

It has not been 9 months since Nadal won a tournament. He won Stuttgart right after Wimby last year. Second, you were right on with the comment about whether the IW match settled the arguement about whether Djoko or Rafa is the better player.There is no way to tell until after Wimby. GO RAFA !!!!

Sorry, forgot to put my name on the last comment

The last 9 or so comments (excluding mine) have just been fantastic.

A brief comment about Federer. Ask any doctor familiar with mono and they will tell you it will take at least 6 months for Federer to regain his strength and stamina. We just shouldn't expect much from him so soon.

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