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« Rome: Nadal vs. . . . Octavian? Rome: Et Tu, JC »
Rome: Back to Marble, Almost
Posted 05/06/2008 @ 1 :37 PM

Rf_2This week TENNIS.com will be featuring one of our blog regulars, Asad Raza, who is in Rome for the men's Italian Open. He'll be writing back and forth with me here a couple times; reporting on the home page; and blogging over at Pete's as well—he's got this thing covered.

Asad,

Federer as Augustus, Nadal an Etruscan; how about Bodo as Virgil, Bud Collins as Ovid, Vince Spadea as Horace? Last year Bud had hip surgery but still made it there. I think to him, the Italian remains an essential part of the traditional tennis circuit, back when it was regularly called the “Fifth Slam” and before it was buried beneath all the various, confusing monikers you listed in your post.

I’m stuck watching on TV this time, and was pretty unhappy with that this morning when I saw the Times’ Neil Harman in the press section, where I was last year, taking in the sun and Federer and that uniquely flat, orange, baked-looking clay court in the Pallacorda. I like that the event is using it as the center court this year. You’ll notice that the surface itself is much bigger than the one in the new main stadium (which is being renovated this year). It's more fitting for a grand event. The trouble is that the marble has been covered with cushions, and the famous statues have been obscured by an extra level of seats. Last year it really had an amphitheatre-like feel.

I thought Federer looked good right from the start today, solid and accurate and comfortable from the baseline, patient enough not to go for too much. The drop shot is helping him. When he moved Cañas up and back with it, Federer suddenly had the look of a true clay-courter, rather than a power-baseliner trying to belt his way through on clay. I don’t see much to stop him until Ferrer in the quarters, and he’s 8-0 against him (though they played a three-setter last year on clay in Hamburg). Then he might get the winner of Djokovic-Nalbandian. I wonder how Djokovic will react after a pretty dispiriting and embarrassing effort against Federer in Monte Carlo? I have to think he wants to redeem himself. I like the game of his first opponent, Steve Darcis; they should have a very solid match, no matter how competitive it is.

On the other side, I’m curious to see how far Roddick can go—he isn’t as bad on clay as all the evidence suggests—and if Tsonga will offer much resistance after his knee injury. Nadal-Murray? That might be fun. Or an unsightly blowout.

What do you think of the event itself? The Foro Italico is pleasantly low-key and rough around the edges compared to, say, the U.S. Open or even Indian Wells. My favorite place there, as it is at most tournaments, is the side-court area, underneath the stone pines. There’s something old world about it, and the amphitheatre seating is perfect for the Italians, who don’t consider themselves bound by usher’s rules about waiting until a changeover to move. Good for them—the players get used to it. From what I’ve seen on TV, they’ve carved out a second arena back there this year. What’s the atmosphere like in it?

One thing that sticks in my mind were the ushers themselves. Rather than retirees from the Bronx, they were 20-something-year-old girls who loved to dance to the (cheesy) songs that were piped through the stadium. Hopefully they’re by the press section again.

Next logical question: Who’s the tennis version of Caligula?

Steve

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What are the fans like in Rome? I remember vaguely that Borg stopped playing the event because fans were so rowdy, throwing things on the court during points.

Come on... :)...if you're pushing for Fed=Augustus, Nadal has to be Anthony and the French Open = Cleopatra. (The flaw here is the relative ages). The only way Augustus could get Cleopatra was to kill Anthony, but she never loved him.

Another plausible one if you want rivals who liked each other is Fed = Hannibal, Nadal = Scipio and French open = Zama.

I agree. The drop shot has helped Federer enormously. If there is anyone whose hands are good enough to execute a shot masterfully that is Roger Federer. I hope he can bring the heat to Nadal if they happen to meet though I will not get ahead of myself.

rome has been allways a tragedy as far as fed is concerned, no ?
the first time he reaches the final in 2003, he finds out the final is best of five and as he admited himself later, he wasnt ready for it... he lost in straits to felix mantilla.
the second time he met nadal in the most epic final and lost after having 2 match points...
last year, distracted by the fact he had to fire roche he loses to local hero volandri...
i don't know which kind of tragedy will apply for fed's curse at rome... but maybe ND has some more knowledge than me ;p pls make some more suggestions :)

btw cleopatra loved cesar but for interrest, power and to keep her legitimacy in egypt... did not worked !

i think the tragedy for fed is that even if he enjoys playing on the red stuff, he loves grass more, and you can hardly love with passion 2 different things such as clay and grass at the same time... maybe rafa can, but fed is the lover of one girl at the time, no ?
fed would love to win RG to get the goat status, not really because he is passionate about RG, imo. i really think you need to have a special connexion with a tournament, city and the game suited to the surface to play with more passion, strengh, and will to succeed on it.

we will see how fed can show his passion in the roman tragedy !

mariej,

I agree with your very last paragraph. To be honest, I think Federer's drive to win RG is more directed towards solidying his already debatable GOAT status than to win the French Open itself for mere passion. Roger's most important love will always be the lawns of Wimbledon and its fast low-bouncing grass.

solidifying*

i misstyped it, sorry =)

Hi Marie,

"btw cleopatra loved cesar but for interrest, power and to keep her legitimacy in egypt... did not worked !"

Indeed Cleopatra loved Caesar, but she later married and had kids with Anthony. Augustus was also in love with her, and when he killed Anthony he took care of their kids....Some gal.

Fed=Hannibal is the best I could come up with :). Hannibal, of course, spent ~16 years trying to conquer Rome and even came as close as the gates (the final) only to be turned away. Meanwhile, the great Scipio (Nadal) was training in Spain, and when he came of age (decided to go pro) Hannibal was no longer the greatest general. They had a battle in Italy (I forget where) and then took the fight to Zama (Africa) where Hannibal was defeated forever.

Oh...if only Hannibal hadn't lost so many elephants in the Alps (won the French open before Nadal came of age). :))

nd tks a lot for the intel about the plot between hannibal and scipio... ill go to wiki for more ;) the story endlessly repeats himself sometimes...
and i agree, the best shot to win RG was in 2005 when rafa wasn't that bigger on clay yet...
honelstly, if zama is wimby, rafa will pass fed there ! glad to know that ;)i'm just teasing lol

swiss maestro, i think the more passion and determination you have the more you win... so it's good to know fr us, that we have 3 top guys such passionate and commited to win !

That should be "amphitheatre," Steve, with a second "h." Common mistake; I suspect it was a mere typo, coming from you.

I'm looking for Roger to continue to get stronger and to contiunue working on subtle changes in his clay-court tactics and shot selections.

lol, good idea to make comparisons with ancient Roman characters... Ill pick them all from the same period, most famous:

Fed - Casar;
Rafa - Vercingetorix;
Djoko - Antony
Ana - Cleopatrrrra

I think Sharapova would be Goneril from King Lear.

(And Rod Laver is still Montgomery Burns. LOL)

The tennis version of Caligula is Mrs. Djokovic.

Preparing to duck hundreds of tennis balls thrown by Djoko fans!

i see shriekapova as lady macbeth, if you're going the shakespeare route....but isn't that getting away from rome?

right, amphitheatre. not sure if i knew that or not. thanks.

yeah, caligula is a little out there. robby ginepri?

(just kidding, he's italian)

sharapova should be the cruel sister of neron !

Caligula? Safin for sure.

Eurosport's take on topic. It's terribly cheesy, I warn you:
Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPa9nw0diAU
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlGhWEjYfQ4&feature=related

I would say Nadal=Maximus of Hispania.

Maximus of Hispania to save Rome. Nadal will destroy the intruding Federer. The King of clay will regin Rome as usual.

lira vega ! RFLMAO !!!!

love it !!

Voks: appreciate your efforts :))) but the sultry Rafa as the hirsute and mustachioed Vercingetorix, the savior of Gaul against the Romans who was then captured and later killed???, It sends shivers to my spine!! :)

Borg might be closest to that one.

(but I'm still not completely into these Roman/Classical metaphors....)

yeah, but other than the climax of Galic wars and mustachos it all fits in ... after all, he's the 'provincial' one while Fed and Djoko are the establishment. ;)

rafa is dark haired, the gaules where blond descendant celtics remember ? i prefer the hannibla scipio analogy ;) i don't know where djoko fit in that picture, i'll find out something nice for him, voks ;p hehe

Rafa never destroys or has destroyed Roger at all in any match they've ever played on clay or any surface. Clay is clearly by far Rafa's best surface, as proven many times, and by far Roger's worst surface, as also proven many times. Still, Roger always loses close matches to Rafa, and the last one was normal. Roger frequently has blown leads in sets, matchpoints, and matches versus Rafa and lost when he should've won, as the last one further proves too. Roger would lead Rafa head to head if they played as much on hardcourts and grass as they do on clay, but they play by far the most on clay. That is undeniable facts too. 8 times on clay. 7 on the other 2 surfaces combined, where Roger leads 5-2. Facts.
Roger is clearly #2 on clay, and #1 on everything else for the last 4-5 years.
Results and success prove it all true.
Rafa is clearly #1 on clay, and #2-5 on everything else.
Results and success prove that all true too.
Proven facts are undisputable and important and necessary, and opinions are irrelevant and pointless.

It's impossible to honestly, accurately, factually, etc. dispute anything I said. I have all proof and evidence to support my facts, and anybody who disagrees has none to support their opinion. That too is undisputable, objective facts, and not biased, inaccurate opinions.
However, those facts won't prevent people from continuing to state their opinions because that's who they are and what they do.

marieJ: (hallo!!!) Hannibal, you mean Vin Diesel? ;) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0382731/

so well, BEURRRRRRRRRK :)


voks: please do not start with all the disrespectful ideas about clay court experts, err, specialists!! ;)

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