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« Not So Angry Young Man Rome: Back to Marble, Almost »
Rome: Nadal vs. . . . Octavian?
Posted 05/06/2008 @ 10 :17 AM

6108This week TENNIS.com will be featuring one of our blog regulars, Asad Raza, who is in Rome for the men's Italian Open. He'll be writing here a couple times, on the home page, and over at Pete's as well—he's got this thing covered. Here's his first post.


Hi Steve,

As you know, today is first day of the Internazionali BNL d'Italia, also known as the ATP Masters Roma, the Internazionali del Foro Italico, the Italian Open, and simply as Rome, which is what I like to call it. I touched down a couple hours ago, promptly discovering that Richard Gasquet's horrow show of a season continues. But you gotta feel great for Luis "Mucho Lucho" Horna, an undersized warrior who always leaves it all out on the court, win or lose. [Insert mandatory reference to Roman gladiators here.] Homeboy Andreas Seppi took out another Frenchman, Fabrice Santoro, but the Roman papers are touting the chances of Simone Bolelli, for some reason (he's photogenic?).

It strikes me that Rome is currently the second most important tennis tournament to take place on the European continent, after Roland Garros. The fall indoor tournaments, Paris-Bercy and Madrid, take place too late in the year to determine much more than the scuffle for the last few spots in the year end Master's Cup. That prestigious grass-court tourney, Wimbledon, is actually held on an island just off the coast of France. The other two European Masters tournaments, Monte Carlo and Hamburg, mark the beginning and the end of the clay season's run-up to Roland Garros, but Rome is its beating heart.

Despite the charges that tennis is becoming ever more surface-specific, the top three contenders for this title are the world's top three players: wouldn't you say? During the season of terra rossa, however, the number one and two spots are effectively traded, and Nadal is as heavy a favorite here as any player will be at a tournament this year. Having won his fourth straight titles in Monte Carlo and Barcelona, Nadal has reminded onlookers that he is as close to invincible on this surface as Bjorn Borg once was. If he four-peats Rome and Roland Garros as well, he might be close to cementing "best claydog of all time" status, no?

Federer, meanwhile, is facing a year of tests. Surprisingly, he has won only one tournament, a relatively minor one in Estoril (apologies, Miguel); are his youthful pursuers finally catching up to him, or is it just the mono? The answer to that question, whether or not he can reestablish his alpha status, will be the largest macro-story in men's tennis for the rest of this year. Two weeks ago in Monte Carlo, I thought Fed produced his best tennis of the season, dispatching all comers until running into Nadal, the man who for three years has been single-handedly preventing him from utter domination. Their final played out in a familiar pattern: despite stretches of torrid play, Federer was ultimately outclassed by the better player on the surface. At this stage, I'm not sure there's much more information to gather about the matchup. It's gonna take a special match from Federer to win.

Novak Djokovic, meanwhile, raised new questions about his durability, and possibly even his honorability, by retiring to Federer in the semifinal in Monte Carlo, claiming dizziness. Djokovic, whose game translates well to clay, has yet to win a major title on it. But I suspect this should be a good place for him--many faster-court specialists have won in Rome, including Sampras and Agassi. The clay seems be firmer and the ball seems to move through the court faster than at Roland Garros (but bounce higher than on the damp deadness of Hamburg--ah the many varieties of clay!). For Rome's court speed alone, I think Djokovic should do well. With his U.S. Open final, and Aussie and Indian Wells titles, has a strong argument for being the best hardcourt player in the game right now. After Djokovic, I'm quite interested to see how Nikolay Davydenko will do--he'd be my next pick to win the tourney. What about yours?

This being the Eternal City, historical comparisons have been jumping into my head since my train ride into the city--hey, their AIRPORT is called Leonardo da Vinci. Historical analogy for Federer? Augustus Caesar, no doubt, presiding over and consolidating an empire in magisterial fashion. The only difference is that Augustus, then known as Octavian, emerged from a three-man scrap just to come to power. Federer, meanwhile, seems to be enmeshed in a very serious three-way just past his career's midpoint. Nadal? Clearly an Etruscan, the mysterious and slightly wild-seeming civilization that predated the Romans... okay, I'm stopping. Cappuccinos are really cheap here.

The other thing I'm looking forward to is the fact that the Stado Pietrangelo will be the main court this year due to construction (there's a nice piece about it by Jon Wertheim in TENNIS magazine this month). It's about the size of the Bullring at Roland Garros or the Grandstand at Flushing Meadows, the two courts almost all tennis writers agree are the best places for witnessing live tennis. The Stado Nicola P. is also a relic of Fascist Modernism--actually Rome is abuzz right now because a right-wing mayor with suspected ties to the Fascist youth movement was just elected. Anyway, I'm glad that perhaps the most unique court in tennis (marble bleachers? nude statuary???) is having a moment in the sun. It just seems perfectly appropriate for the national championship of a country that is so uniquely itself, so Italian (I know that sounds tautological), that you can never mistake it for anywhere else.

I mean, just looking at the wrapper of the delicious little cookie they gave me with my latest espresso: "Contains: sugar, pits of apricot, almond, white of egg." It only took four ingredients to make something unmistakably Italian and exceedingly enjoyable. Man, am I excited about this week!

Talk to you soon,
Asad

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First! :D

My apologies, I was second... :)

Nadal, Federer, then Djokovic & Davydenko sounds about right. It's difficult to imagine anyone else winning in Rome.

>... okay, I'm stopping. Cappuccinos are really cheap here.

lol, Asad.

Without a doubt great tourney... The king of clay is in top form and it's gonna be an improbable task stopping Rafa on his quest for another title. Would have to disagree with the author bringing Novak's "honorability"... Concern for someone's wellbeing and health should never be brought up as an issue! I know that tennis lovers were disappointed by the fact the match was finished the way it did, but there's gonna be many more matches to come and no one should compromise their season and especially their health... If everything works out the way we're expecting it to work out, in few days there's gonna be a rematch between these two. As ND's fan looking forward to a rematch in the semis! He who laughs last...

Mr. Asad -

Enjoy your time in Rome...I have the entire week off here at home so I'll see if I can spot you on TV.

And don't forget to comment on some culinary delicacies - Andrew F. and I am curious to know your thoughts, as you meet the qualifications of a 'foodie'.

GameSetMatch-

As a Federer fan I am also looking forward to another chance for Roger to beat Djokovic yet again and the way Federer played today against Cañas leads to think it is very likely. I just hope this time around Djokovic finishes the match and does not bring any excuses up when he is loosing though. Ups!

Nadal needs to break Borg's record of 6 French Opens in 8 years to be the greatest claydog ever. Nothing else he does will elevate him to No. 1. He's got to win 7, otherwise he'll be No. 2

omar,

Maybe you are right if you talk about number of titles, but don't you think that Nadal's current level on clay is way higher than Borg's ever was? I personally think so. To me, Nadal is already the best clay court player ever.

Asad -

Your caffeine-induced comparisons totally made me smile. And I laughed when you stopped yourself.

Of COURSE, that paragraph also got me thinking. I like comparisons like that, b/c a GOOD comparison can so perfectly capture the essence of the thoughts/feelings one is trying to convey without using too many words (something I often struggle with). I'm ashamed of myself, but I NEED comparisons, OK? ;)

So, I was thinking that Djoko is the best comparison to Octavian b/c I'm inclined to believe he will emerge 'the victor' of this 3-way scrapparooni (that's Italian for 'scrap'). It's via the 3-way that Djoko will rise to the top, like Octavian. And that's not so say he'll have the longest or greatest reign, but in *this* particular 3-horse race, whenever it ends, I'll be surprised if Djoko isn't out front.

Despite the fact that Fed *is* involved in this 3-way deal, seems to me he's better compared to Julius Caesar. As you said, Fed isn't coming to the forefront of things just now.

Sadly, Nadal as Antony seems apt (to me). A presence before Djoko/Octavian. Great friend to Caesar. etc etc etc

Wonder if a Brutus will show himself? Murray? ;) hee!

Even though I'm a fan of Djoko's tennis, I don't really care or necessarily *want* him to 'win' the 3-way 'war'. I think Rafa, Fed & Djoko will all do their share of winning for the next little while and I like that. But whether I like/want it or not, I think the 3-way ultimately ends with Djoko on top.

is Asad your pen name for Ray Stonada? Just want to keep it real here.

Swiss,

How are you ascertaining that Rafa's level of clay is higher than Borg's ever was?

What, because he plays with a modern racket and high powered strings that allow him to hit the ball harder and with more spin than what was available in Borg's day? As if Borg wouldn't be doing the same thing had he been born 20 years later. What has Rafa done that Borg couldn't or didn't do?

Rafa is 103-1 on clay the past 3 years? Great!!! Borg was 95-3 on clay over 3 years, and two of those losses were defaults.

Rafa's won 21 in a row at Roland Garros? Great, Borg won 28 in a row. I mean, I love Rafa, but I don't understand where you get your logic from.

The only diffference I notice between Rafa and Borg is that Borg was able to win his French Opens without even losing a set, where Rafa occasionally drops a few. And Borg was great on the other surfaces as well, while Rafa is only great on clay.

If Rafa had a wooden racket put in his hand and went back in a time machine 25 years to play Borg, are you just automatically giving that match to Rafa?

Are you just one of those guys who assumes anything newer is better?

The Rafa of Borg's era, Guillermo Vilas, got routinely crushed by Borg on clay. Granted, Rafa's more talented than Vilas was, but I just don't get your logic. If I had to guess I'd say you are not a Borg fan.

Why did they on Betfair bet about10 000 000 dollar on the match between Gonzalez and Tipsarevic (36 76 76) in Rome and "only" about 2 000 000 on Lapentti-Volandri (76 26 62) and less than 1 000 000 on the match between Karlovic-Mathieu (76 62)??? Anybody who have any idea?

HD

Love the read, Asad! Please do keep jotting down your thoughts and sending them along. But first and foremost, have yourself a memorable time.

As for betfair , i think there are couple of reasons.
1) high odds on Tipsarevic win, many people believed with the reason
2)Gonzo was tired after Munich but was great today though (so sorry for Janko...)
3. hottest match today, so everybody put their money on it

omar,

Don't get me wrong. I love Borg though I liked McEnroe's genius much better. Statistically Borg is still the best clay court player ever but what I expressed above is solely my opinion.

I just think that if the Borg from 1978 showed up today demanding a clay court showdown against Nadal he simply would not win. To me the Spaniard, his biceps and his babolat have too much power, and a whole bunch of elements to his game that I have not seen in any other clay courter before. His accuracy, his transition game and better hands at the net. Plus there is a difference in the way players today go for the lines with much more abandon than the guys from the past. Being respecful I don't believe Vilas would stand a chance against a guy like Djokovic or Davydenko to be honest.

Borg was vey tough mentally but Rafa is just as tough.
Borg was as strong as an ox but so is Rafa (if not stronger).
Borg was superfast but Rafa is world-class fast.

I think what separates Nadal from the pack of the best clay courters in history (including Borg) is that forehand. Very few weapons or shots have ever been as effective as his forehand on the surface.

Athletes nowadays are stronger, faster and fitter. Also, if you add up the better equipment ingredient to the equation it pretty much makes it.

asad is rocking in rome ??? how cool is that ! do you know that rosia is there all week with a credential at the for italico ??? lucky you !!!

cappucinos, gelati and anti pasti and you can feell like in heaven, imo !!! ok, maybe in the oposite order lol !

i hope you have a great time... the couple of times i've been there, you allways feel that dolce vita feeling... it's really cool and a bit mad at the same time... have you notice how many tiny cars like smart you find in the streets ??? and you still find some old cinquecentos !!! the romans are cool people, marat allways praises them ;)

if you need any tips for rome, email me !
best museums : galeria borghese, museo capitolino for the antic and 16th and 17th roman sculpture... if you go there don't miss the canova's sculptures...

enjoy the italian, food, art, tennis and way of life, and uhmm girl... asad :D
and pls make plenty of repports ! i like your writing on the eternal city ;)


Ray watching Horna!!!!!!!!!!!

Great stuff, Ray. Reading you makes this tournament 10 times better. Ok, maybe a hundred. You get the picture. :)

@ SwissMaestro,
with all due respect to Fed and your opinion, i don't bring the fact that he smashed your player in Montreal, and pummeled him in A.O. (where FedEx brought the mono issue AS AN EXCUSE... let's be realistic, his game didn't look any weaker then it is today)and not mentioning the fact that he avoided him in Indian Wells (lost to Fish??? again let's get real, never ever would a player of FedEx magnitude lose to a guy like Fish unless... i'll leave the blank space, but we all know why). Everything aside, i'm here not to argue with u who has achieved more (that's not an issue), nor am i here to argue the undeniable greatness of Roger, let it be known that Nole feels the same, i'm here to let u know that Nole didn't make any excuses nor is ever going to, and more importantly to let u know that payback is a bit!@#%... :) We shall see who's the one standing after their clash.
p.s. yeah, real class act telling someone (his box) to be quiet after a clear mistake line umpire made on the very same ball in question! Love the fact how quickly he came over to the line a swept aside the mark which indicated that the ball was in... class act!!! :P I keep loosing respect more and more each day for your beloved one.

Asad/Mr. Stonada;

What a delightful introduction to proceedings; love your classical references.

As far as Djokovic goes, I am sure you are correct that he will do well on the fast courts of Rome, barring any headaches, sniffles, dizzy spells, backaches, allergies, etc.

But I don't think that his OZ and Indian Wells titles necessarily means he's the best hardcourter in the world right now. I think that distinction still belongs to Cesear. Render unto Cesear what is his. Roger definitely was ill during the early part of this year. From here on in I guess we're going to see where the two really stand.

Like everyone loves Djokovic. That's exactly why thousands of Australians were rooting for Tsonga the day of the OZ Open final right? I wonder what it would have been like should Roger have reached the final.

I so support Federer's act of telling the Djokovic family to keep quiet for all they have said, they have big mouths you know? Again, not vey much liked by many.

So ok, Djokovic's sportsmanship is greater than Federer given the fact that his retired in how many matches? gosh! he's done it so many times I can't even recall! Federer has been in the tour far longer and HAS NEVER retired from a match. Sure Djokovic beat him in Australia and Montreal but Federer never retired, he finished those 2 matches. Also Roger beat beat him twice in Montecarlo, once in Dubai, once in Austrlia as well, once in the US Open, once in a Davis cup tie, wanna continue??

Federer has carried himself in such a way no other champion ever has. Djokovic has carried himself to the doctor in plenty of matches when he is about to loose them, that is very lame...

Like everyone loves Djokovic. That's exactly why thousands of Australians were rooting for Tsonga the day of the OZ Open final right? I wonder what it would have been like should Roger have reached the final.

I so support Federer's act of telling the Djokovic family to keep quiet for all they have said, they have big mouths you know? Again, not vey much liked by many.

So ok, Djokovic's sportsmanship is greater than Federer given the fact that his retired in how many matches? gosh! he's done it so many times I can't even recall! Federer has been in the tour far longer and HAS NEVER retired from a match. Sure Djokovic beat him in Australia and Montreal but Federer never retired, he finished those 2 matches. Also Roger beat beat him twice in Montecarlo, once in Dubai, once in Austrlia as well, once in the US Open, once in a Davis cup tie, wanna continue??

Federer has carried himself in such a way no other champion ever has. Djokovic has carried himself to the doctor in plenty of matches when he is about to loose them, that is very lame...

GameSetMatch-

Sure man. Djokovic is so loved that is exactly why thousands of Aussies were rooting for Tsonga the day of the OZ Open final.

I so support Roger for telling the Djokovic family to shut up for all the things they have said. They have a big mouth you know? and their kid is not even no.2!

Sure Djokovic beat Federer in Montreal and Australia but Roger finished the matches while being ill, can you say the same about Djokovic? I don't think so, I mean the guy has retired from so many matches when he is loosing that I cannot even recall them all. Federer has been in the tour for far longer and HAS NEVER RETIRED FROM A MATCH! Now that is sportsmanship.

Plus Federer has pounded Djokovis 6 times to Djokovic 2 times. There is SOOO MUCH YOUR BELOVED ONE has to accomplish before he can compare to Federer it is not even funny. Roger carries himself in such a way no other champion ever has. Djokovic carries himself too! to the doctor that is...

forgive me for the double posting..

SwissMaestro:

The point that omar made was that if you took Rafa's Babolat away, and gave him a 1978 wooden raquet, he wouldn't beat Borg.

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