So often I'heard people saying that Nadal's proffesion is going be short. I have remind you have been saying it for 5 years o so, and he'still going. All players have some kind of problems. back, knees, wrisk, feet, shoulder etc
Posted by Mike
04/10/2009 at 09:17 AM
Fed won 9 GS in 3 years ... and is entering his 10th full time year on the Pro tour, with 13 GS. Rafa has 6 GS going into his 6th full time year. And your point is .. ?
Posted by Mike
04/10/2009 at 09:32 AM
Also ... Pistol Pete had multiple opponents that have winning records against him ... does that mean that they are all better candidates for GOAT than he is?
It's how good the player is against everyone that matters at the end of the career, not one player (or 2) that has his number.
Posted by Joe
04/10/2009 at 09:44 AM
Did Fed win 9 GS at 22 years old? has he win GS in all the surfaces? nope, so my point is.... he can't be the GOAT, no way!!
Posted by Mike
04/10/2009 at 10:18 AM
Joe ...
'... and is entering his 10th full time year on the Pro tour, with 13 GS. Rafa has 6 GS going into his 6th full time year. And your point is .. ?'
Rafa is 22, but has been a fulltime Pro going on 6 years. Not typical 22 year old mileage on that body.
Posted by Mike
04/10/2009 at 10:36 AM
Ahhh ... GOAT arguments are stupid, anyway. There are way too many variables (equipment, conditions, strength of competition, etc.)
Posted by TripleF(FedFanForever)
04/10/2009 at 11:58 AM
These posts (although I love reading both Bodo and Tignor) are getting to be a bit tiresome. Any single loss of Fed was analyzed like in a Therapy session. Now Rafa goes through that as well. Do a bit of match analysis, do play by play or overall, and then summarize...is all I can take. Call it a bad day in the office, and leave it at that. Instead...a shrug at the presser, a frown during a point, an off the record comment during the training session...all are analyzed to bits. We love to construe and extrapolate things. Of course, it makes it interesting to read, but am sure the players are getting tired of it. I don't think any of the earlier generation (lovely poll a couple of days ago by the way) went through this level of psycho-therapy. I am sure it is part of the internet age - locked-in, captive audience and daily or hourly updates make it possible. But, c'mon...
Posted by TennisFanxTwo
04/10/2009 at 02:36 PM
It's definitely a part of the internet age. I've spent a lot of time on blogs lately, and this was/is a refreshing change from what I was getting used to (espn, fox, to name a few). It's nice to read intelligent and sometimes amusing posts, as opposed to the personal bashings and "hate-mail" postings seen elsewhere. Sometimes fans get fanatical, and at that point the line of "fan of" and "obssessed with" is very blurred. The posts I've seen here are, again, intelligent, amusing, and simply a joy to read through page after page. I will agree with TripleF, the hyper-analysis of any given loss is getting old. The GOAT talk is also very overdone, and I'm sure even Roger would agree at this point, a non-issue. One more thing I think is very nice about the postings here is the "personal" relationships that seem to have been made here, the back-n-forth on a day to day basis. Hats off to all who post here who have remained humane :)
Posted by bandit04
04/10/2009 at 03:40 PM
The last 2 posts are spot on. The media and fans love to build up and tear down players at a whim. It has gotten tedious and often ridiculous. It would be nice to just appreciate these players and give them room to breathe.
Posted by Joe
04/10/2009 at 09:35 PM
It would be nice to be more fair (Federer fans) and give credit to whom deserves it. I think Nadal is the one
Posted by Siddharth Shankar
04/10/2009 at 09:36 PM
I agree with the grades. I still like Fed thou!!!!!!!!
Posted by gabriela valentina(NADAL, Death Cheater)
04/11/2009 at 09:36 AM
like your pertinent asessment of most of the players and thought you were spot on in your observations on Djokovic and Roger!!