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Holiday Tableau 12/21/2006 - 5:59 PM

Howdy. Well, the final countdown to Christmas is underway. This morning, Cowboy Luke and his entire Weekday School (it's a small outfit) staged their Holiday Tableau, an annual event for the parents.  It's a re-enactment of the  Nativity story, in which the kids play the part of various characters in the saga. I like the fact that the Weekday School, while affiliated with the Baptist Riverside Church, celebrates Christmas and Hanukkah, instead of neither. I guess it's a multi-denominational school, rather than a non-denominational one. Bring on the holidays!

XmAnyway, the tableau was enacted on a big stage in the RC auditorium, before three or four hundred people.

Luke and his classmates in 717 drew the part of shepherds (since the costumes were more-or-less homemade, they ended up looking more like Bedouin tribesmen, which may be what the shepherds were anyway). Their job was to sing Noel. Two of the girls in his class, Renata and Kayla, stepped up and took the lead when it was 717s turn.

Staci, a therapist/child development specialist who works with Luke, reported that he sang along. We were seated too far back to see much except the strawberry blond top of his head.

Anybody want to go off-topic? Here's my entry for favorite Christmas movie: National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. It makes me feel like a philistine, placing it ahead of those sentimental, heartwarming classics, like Miracle on 34th Street or A Christmas Carol.  But I am  more deeply in touch with my inner Knucklehead than my inner Nutcracker. I defy you to watch NLCV and not laugh at loud.

The holiday season is all about the kids, right? So I want to get back to some of the discussion launched by my last post. One of the most frequent criticisms of the academy system that Nick Bollettieri popularized is based on a misconception - that kids get sent there by overly ambitious parents, and that the kids are welcomed with open arms (and eyes fixed on the parents' checkbook). Why, many of you wondered, would the parents of a six-year old like Greer Glodjo ship their child off to an academy, or re-focus their entire family's priorities on a long-shot tennis development plan for a child, when doing so may prevent that child from enjoying a "normal" life?

The answer is that the children in that position are not normal - not any more than chess or music prodigies. And while some parents try to paste their ambitions on a child and goad or force him or her to conform to their dreams, it doesn't really work that way. And the attempt to do that almost always dies on the vine, long before it can even become controversial. Imagine trying to ramrod an kid with no talent for music into an advanced prodigy program at Julliard. First, the school will quickly tell the parents that the kid has no talent. Second, even if the parents somehow beg or buy their way in, the kid won't last a New York minute.

In broad terms, this is also true of tennis. Nobody can explain why some children have an extraordinary facility and appetite for ball games any better than they can tell you why some kids are musical or math prodigies. It all starts with a specific gift - and its one that blind-sides parents as often as it falls upon them as some kind of answered prayer. My own son, for example, shows absolutely zero interest in ball games. I often took him to the tennis courts at Central Park (we basically live across the street from them), and he was aware of what the people were doing on those courts. He knows what I do for a living. I've taken him out with his youth racquet and a nerf ball, just for something to do (as well as out of curiosity), and I'll try to teach him the game at the right time. But right now, there are lots of things he'd rather do, and that may continue to be the case.

By contrast, here's how Greer got involved in the game. She received a tennis racquet as a birthday present (this is all according to her mother, Dr. Deidre Collette and father Arman Glodjo). She and her older sister went out to bang the ball against a garage wall, and within five minutes Greer was pounding away, and warning her sister to stay away from "her" game. Greer's parents then asked her if she wanted to take lessons. She said "yes!" Some time later, seeing how responsive the child was, the parents took a one-week vacation at the IMG Nick Bollettieri Tennis Academy.

During their stay, they asked Nick if he wanted to have a look at their daughter, because they felt she was exceptionally talented and drawn to the game. Nick evaluated the child, and he immediately told the parents that she was unusually gifted - so much so, that he was willing to train her intensively, as long as she responded happily and made progress This essentially meant that the Glodjos would have to uproot and move closer to the action (the family officially resides in Bermuda), which they decided to do. Clearly, Greer responded to this opportunity; it was obvious and undeniable to me that she loved playing the game.  The "team", in consultation with experts in the sports development field, then went about designing a specific, unique, child-friendly schedule for training.

Of course, all kinds of unexpected things can happen between here and Wimbledon - including a loss of interest or even a more serious case of burn-out. But it seems to me that this is a chance worth taking, simply because it's better to be pro-active and eager to provide a prodigy with every opportunity than to somehow hold back a willing - and willful - child, especially if the restraint is idealogical. That is, predicated on pre-conceived notions about what childhood ought to be like. All individuals are unique, it seems to me; it's probably better to follow and nurture the emerging longings and interests than to focus on the potential down side, or  fret over where they may lead in worst-case scenarios.

This isn't a blanket endorsement of high-level early training. But we do know that the paths of development for great players have been as diverse - and in many cases, unlikely - as the personalities of those players. This we know for sure: There is no "one size fits all" solution to the challenge of development. Therefore, how can we rule out any approach, unless it's been shown to be disastrous?


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Posted by John 12/21/2006 at 06:24 PM

Awesome blog, Pete. I love to read about junior prodigies-you should write about them more often. While we're on the subject, do you know about 16 year old Xander Spong, who recently won the Prince Cup in Florida last week, Orange Doubles the week before, and led his team (Netherlands) to the championship in junior Davis Cup in Barcelona? I have been checking his results and Bernard Tomic also.

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 06:30 PM

kinda sucks for the older sister though.

Posted by Rosangel 12/21/2006 at 06:54 PM

Ah. Please see my last post on the previous thread, which I was (apologetically) drafting before this one went up. I don't know what it would be like to be a tennis prodigy, but I do know how it feels to be gifted academically, beyond the norm, and how impossible it would have been for my parents to try to hold me back for any ideological reason. The fact that I didn't have a normal childhood because of my particular gift was not their fault - they had to deal with the child they had, not the child they thought they would have.

But not for a moment would I support any parent trying to push a young child beyond their abilities.

Posted by Dunlop Maxply 12/21/2006 at 06:54 PM

Nice expansion of the thought, Pete. Let me expand mine.

I can't speak, for say, classical violin, but as for tennis, there is quite a bit more to it than "he (or she) who is the first one to develop thier talent is best off over the long haul."

For starters, it would be interesting for everyone to weigh in with facts, but there were only three guys in my experience in Soutehrn Cal who "ran the table" being ranked number one all the way through the age divisions: Billy Martin, Eliot Teltscher, and Scott Davis. All had pro careers. However, it was Pete Sampras who ended up being the seminal player from California. For that matter, I remember whatching Michael Chang play a kid I was coaching when Chang was about 12, and I thought, "this guy is just another consistant kid with decent groundstrokes." Its not that I don't know what I am talking about, its that at that point Chang WAS just another consistant kid with decent groundstrokes.

Basically, I have never seen a correlation between a player's 12 and under ranking and their success on the pro tour. Its almost enough, if you are serious as a parent, to affirmatively take steps to make sure your child is NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, RANKED IN THE TOP COUPLE OF KIDS IN THEIR 12 AND 14 AGE DIVISIONS.

The reason for this is that in the younger age divisions, such an inordinate amount of winning and losing is based upon simple consistancy, that later on, when athletic ability, concentration, and varitey of game start to matter, you often have entirely different kids rising to the top.

Clearly, kids who live in colder climates might well, at some point in their junior career, decide to move to Florida or California to be able to train year round and get better competition without as much travel. This also applies to the kid who lives in say, Nebraska, or somewhere else where tennis is not that popular.

However, having read Bollittieri's book, it appears to me that he really believes that not only is Greer a good player who is enthusiastic enough to handle multiple hours a day of play at her age, but that his academy will actually aid in her development as opposed to the alternative, which is that her parents select a pro and club close to their home and take it from there.

You can't blame any tennis pro from wanting to work with the best possible players. Frankly, based upon available evidence, it seems that Nick can make a claim at being the most successful tennis pro in history at attracting good players to his club.

If he can be fairly criticized at all, it would be for pushing the age at which parents believe it is mandatory for young kids to be working out seriously, at tennis exclusively, from the mid-teens down to pre-teen level.

Posted by Lucy 12/21/2006 at 06:57 PM

Well, I guess that sounds pretty reasonable. As long as the kid is happy playing tennis - I'm a bit comforted if Pete's right and they're keeping a close watch on her for any signs that she's not feeling it anymore. And I concede that my assumptions about what is and is not a normal childhood have coloured my thinking on this (unavoidably - I was never an anything prodigy).

As Ptenisnet points out, it's a bit hard on Greer's sister. But I'm sure she'll live.

Posted by Samantha 12/21/2006 at 07:21 PM

Great story Pete, I'm starting to get real excited about Christmas even though I already know what I'm getting. Bad habit of opening gifts and then rewraping them. I think it's pretty sad when you have parents like Sharapova, Capriati and Hingis parents who basically live through their kids. It must be a nightmare to have parents who do this even if it makes you rich.

Posted by Samantha 12/21/2006 at 07:26 PM

I forgot to add I remember seeing Kournikova talk sadly about how much her mom had pushed her and then her mom turned around and sued her for their house. I can't imagine a parent suing their own kid, but then some people will do anything for money even if it means hurting their kid. I'm not sure I support kids who are very young training at these academies. I remember hearing Andre talk about how his dad pushed him very hard and how much he resented it. To me this ISN'T a very good parent because you care more about success and money then your own kid.

Posted by Lucy 12/21/2006 at 07:38 PM

By the way, Pete, I can just tell your inner Nutcracker is dying to break free. I have a sixth sense for this kind of thing.

Christmas movies: I defy anyone not to find It's a Wonderful Life touching, at least the first few times you see it. And does Meet Me in St Louis count? I say it does.

Most played Christmas movie Chez Lucy: Bad Santa, it's not even close. SOMEBODY gave it to the house as a present last year.

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 07:43 PM

It's a Wonderful Life
Never seen it.

Does Love Actually count as a christmas movie?

Posted by Sanja 12/21/2006 at 07:47 PM

Nice post Pete.

Admittedly I don't know how much of a sacrifice it was for Greer's parents to move over there nor the dynamics of that particular family.

But I also worry about the flip side of the coin.

A family who makes sacrifices (pulling an older child along for the sake of another one, leaving extended family members behind, financial sacrifices .. etc)

It seems to send a message to the child - you are so special and talented above all else we will do this for you.

My point is that puts an enormous burden on the child to succeed.

I tend to agree with Dunlop that at that age it's just not necessary and could be detrimental to the child as well as to family relations.

Of course I don't have any kids - do have a nephew that has the ball craze and is just as good from both sides - whatever is closer. He is going to the first switch pitcher for the yankees someday. : )

I was a prodigy at Memory (board game) and Lemon Drop (skipping game).

Posted by Annabelle 12/21/2006 at 07:52 PM

Thanks for the insights Pete. It's phenomenal how good some of the kids are!

Fav Chrissie movie: Love Actually – ptennisnet – it definitely counts!! I adore that movie.

Dunlop Maxply – wasn’t Andy Roddick undefeated in the U/14 or junior yr of description?

Posted by Lucy 12/21/2006 at 07:55 PM

If I can have Meet Me in St Louis, you can surely have Love Actually. It had a Christmas single, and Hugh Grant singing Good King Wenceslas, and people kept saying things like "just because it's Christmas..."

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 07:58 PM

If I can have Meet Me in St Louis, you can surely have Love Actually. It had a Christmas single, and Hugh Grant singing Good King Wenceslas, and people kept saying things like "just because it's Christmas..."

Another minor crisis averted without having to invoke Godwin's law.

I forgot about good king wenceslas

Posted by Annabelle 12/21/2006 at 08:06 PM

Good King Wenceslas - I think the credit must go to Hugh's copper!
Ah, the Christmas single - more talented juniors.

Posted by John 12/21/2006 at 08:07 PM

Did everyone just skip my comment about Spong and Tomic??? I have seen both of these guys play tennis and they WILL BE number 1 and 2 in the world some day. Tomic, who is thirteen, for instance won over twenty matches in a row playing 18's international at the beginning of this year. Spong is not in the top 100 ITF rankings but what is important is who you beat not your ranking (although I admit that is dabatable).

Posted by Tanya 12/21/2006 at 08:24 PM

Great story Pete, I'm starting to get real excited about Christmas even though I already know what I'm getting. Bad habit of opening gifts and then rewraping them. I think it's pretty sad when you have parents like Sharapova, Capriati and Hingis parents who basically live through their kids. It must be a nightmare to have parents who do this even if it makes you rich.
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I really do take exception to this. You could have also included Richard Williams in the "parents who live through their kids" tradition and a few more. The thing is, all those parents "living through their kids" gave their kids the life they have now, the money, the success, the experiences they had traveling the world in tennis, and I bet not one of those girls you mentioned regrets it one bit. And I think Maria has stated she wouldn't have it any other way and enjoys her dad's company. If you don't know these people personally, you hardly can have an educated or believable opinion about it being "horrible" regarding their relationships. Do people do this kind of projecting of negativity because they just hope some of these players have misery in their lives, even if they don't?

Posted by Dunlop Maxply 12/21/2006 at 08:25 PM

I for one, have a tough time catching Federer on television, let alone Spong and Tomic.

If they do end up in the top 10, I will have heard it here first.

Posted by 12/21/2006 at 08:26 PM

Ptenisnet, Love Actually, you bet, brother. Christmas all the way. Great movie. A Beach Boys song as a prominent part of the soundtrack just has to be good.

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 08:34 PM

Although Spong and Tomic could have easily been the name of a successful alternative rock band.

Posted by Sherlock 12/21/2006 at 08:37 PM

Sorry. That was me. Different computer than usual.

Lucy, I second the Wonderful Life sentiments. Ptenisnet, you have to see that. Not up for your discussion. Just do it.

Miracle on 34th Street also has the same effect for me.

What about Scrooged? Bill Murray is pure comedy genius.

Sanja, we share the same brain on this issue. To me, it's just so complicated. A million possible negatives, and a few possible positives. But I've beaten this dead horse enough today, so I'll spare everyone more rambling on the topic. :)

I look forward to seeing your nephew on the mound someday. You'll get us tickets, right?

Well done on the memory game, Sanja. Hmmm, my prodigy accomplishments as a kid...does mounds of useless baseball trivia count?

Posted by Lucy 12/21/2006 at 08:42 PM

Junior tennis on TV DEFINITELY sounds like a pipe dream. Although it would be kind of cool. I don't follow the juniors enough, I realise this.

Now, I'm not qualified to say whether the Ptenisnet Test™ can legitimately be applied predictively to determine future Grand Slam champions, but if I were, I would say Bernard Tomic yes, Xander Spong no.

Thoughts?

Posted by John 12/21/2006 at 08:42 PM

I did not see them on TV I saw them in person, Dunlop Maxply. It is a pity though, it being so hard to catch Federer on tv.

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 08:49 PM

Now, I'm not qualified to say whether the Ptenisnet Test™ can legitimately be applied predictively to determine future Grand Slam champions, but if I were, I would say Bernard Tomic yes, Xander Spong no.

I second that. It's a pity because Xander Tomic would have been a shoe-in for about 17 grand slam titles and with a little bit of application he would have been able to surpass Federer's then record of 24 Grand Slam titles.

Bernard Spong on the other hand would have made a good ATP trainer.

Posted by Samantha 12/21/2006 at 08:51 PM

Tanya, I don't wish anyone any unhappiness, but when you see Maria's dad yelling at her from the stand while pumping his fist, you have to feel sorry for her. Also, Andre has said many times how much he resented the pressure he received from his dad. I just think some of the parents go to far with their kids. I'm sure Andre and Maria's dad love them, but sometimes parents can make mistakes which cause their kids pain. Sometimes it's best to guide kids but let them have an imput on big decisions.

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 08:51 PM

Will do Mr. Holmes.
I am not sure how I missed it, cos Mr Smith goes to Washington is on e of my all time favorite movies.

Posted by Lucy 12/21/2006 at 08:55 PM

Ptenis, you kill me. You really do. I was also thinking it was a real shame about Xander being paired with Spong.

It's a Wonderful Life - I'm not sure how you missed it, cos it's evident you own a TV.

Samantha, that's a very sensible take on the issue.

Posted by Gavin 12/21/2006 at 09:01 PM

Best Christmas Movie: A Christmas Story. I laugh all the way through every time, from the fishnet stocking lamp the mother breaks to the battles with the furnance, the son getting his mouth washed out with soap for saying the word all parents dread to the family having duck for Christmas dinner at the Chinese restaurant (because it's the only one open) after the neighbors dogs get the turkey. "You can't have a bb gun, you'll shoot your eye out."

I don't laugh at the kid who gets his tongue stuck on the frozen flagpole though . . .

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 09:02 PM

It's a Wonderful Life - I'm not sure how you missed it, cos it's evident you own a TV
I dont know kiddo.
Things to do this christmas weekend
1) watch Wonderful life with sound on
2) watch wonderful life with sound off with DSOM playing in the background. Although I dont expect much from this. Except for the bit at the end where George Bailey clobbers Mr Potter to death for ruining his life.

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 09:04 PM

Actually - not DSOM but Wish You were Here.

Posted by Lucy 12/21/2006 at 09:20 PM

Good plan, Ptenisnet. So you think you can tell heaven from hell?

(I love that song)

When I was going through the Christmas movies in my head, it seemed to me that there was way more junk than good stuff. Like the Santa Clauses, Jingle All the Way, To Grandmother's House We Go... maybe this has something to do with growing up in the 80s and 90s, I don't know.

Posted by abbey 12/21/2006 at 09:22 PM

hey, pete. i love your luke story. the family just attended my 2 year old niece's first christmas production. she was cast as an angel. almost the entire clan was there. grandmas, aunts, cousins. 2 videocams recording. and when they announced her name, she had the loudest cheering group. :)

i love Love Actually! and the beach boys' god only knows. i cry everytime at the ending.

Posted by Sam 12/21/2006 at 09:27 PM

I love A Christmas Story. Classic stuff even though I've seen it countless times. Saw Love Actually about 2 years ago and really enjoyed it.

Wish You were Here - great album and song. First Pink Floyd album I owned.

DM: Excellent thoughts in your 6:54 post.

Posted by Sanja 12/21/2006 at 09:34 PM

Sherlock - tickets? We'll be in the dugout, my friend.

I agree with you about beating a dead horse, but this post from Pete did make me see it from a different angle (though nowhere near 6yrs).

I'm reminded of Chris Lewis' post and would love to hear his take on the issue......... WHAT no time for US, Chris?

Posted by Sam 12/21/2006 at 09:34 PM

Not sure of the relationship between Maria and her dad, so if she says it's good then I'll take her word on it. But my first impression of him was not a good one. It was during her match with Alicia Molik at Philadelphia (2004). It was an indoor venue, and he was sitting a few rows from the baseline wearing dark sunglasses, which struck me as odd. Throughout the match, he did 2 things: 1) Carry on the way you see when they show him on TV, 2) Peering around at the crowd in a sort of suspicious way. Sent a real Haashole vibe. Since then, he has not done anything to raise my opinion of him.

Posted by Tari 12/21/2006 at 09:35 PM

I'll add my sentiments to "It's a Wonderful Life" being one of the best Christmas movies. I've seen it countless times, and I still crack up when Jimmy Stewart and Donna Reed are dancing in the gym and...well, I won't ruin it for ptenisnet. I love it. :)

I also get a kick out of the bean counter at the end of the movie, contributing his $$, but only then feeling like he can smile and party! :)) Too cute.

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 09:36 PM

According to the great philosophers Pratchett and Gaiman
"It is said that the Devil has all the best tunes. This is broadly true. But Heaven has the best choreographers". So if I run into Fosse, I am in heaven, If I hear, well, Wish You Were Here, I am in hell.

Some amount of idle research has been done on this matter.

http://www.synchronicityarkive.com/node/204

Posted by Sam 12/21/2006 at 09:38 PM

Oops, forgot to include "It's a Wonderful Life" on my movie list.

Posted by Sherlock 12/21/2006 at 09:39 PM

Abbey, great story. :) Good to hear about the tears. I do too, though I will never admit that. :) Hugh Grant is perfect in roles like that.

"So you think you can tell heaven from hell?" Bravo, Lucy.

Hey, Sam! Agreed about Wish You Were Here. Although I like DSOM a bit better.

Agreed, too, about Hank's post. We need to get him going on that book he's supposed to be writing, so we can take our road trip to the book signing.

Posted by Lucy 12/21/2006 at 09:43 PM

Me too, Abbey (cry every time I watch Love Actually). It's a terrible affliction because you know they're doing it on purpose. But who cares.

In the spirit of Christmas and all that, I would like to offer a shout-out to Tommy Haas. Pete said he was pleasant and well-mannered. That is nice to hear. So I'm gonna stop picking on him for now.

Posted by Sam 12/21/2006 at 09:46 PM

Sherlock: Agree about DSOM.

You mean the book signing where we'll show up in Led Zeppelin shirts? :-)

Posted by Sam 12/21/2006 at 09:48 PM

"So I'm gonna stop picking on him for now."

What happened to heartless Lucy? :-)

Posted by Lucy 12/21/2006 at 09:50 PM

And here I thought you guys were gonna jump on me about the Love Actually confession.

This is Heartless Lucy: Holiday Edition, ie slightly sweeter. But still heartless, just with like dried fruit or something.

Posted by abbey 12/21/2006 at 09:51 PM

thanks for (not) admitting the tears, sherlock. ;) now, i don't feel like such a dork anymore for posting about it.

Posted by abbey 12/21/2006 at 09:55 PM

Hearless Lucy:Holiday Edition - good till supplies last. enjoy it before it's gone

Posted by Tari 12/21/2006 at 09:57 PM

Yeah, the dried fruit would make a difference, Lucy. Well done. :)

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 09:58 PM

Tari and Sanja
Greetings. It's like a double dose of christmas cheer.

Posted by Sam 12/21/2006 at 09:59 PM

A few more Christmas movies. I like these in part for nostalgic reasons: A Charlie Brown Christmas, Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, How the Grinch Stole Christmas

I also like "The Year Without a Santa Claus" - the Heat Miser and Snow Miser are great, especially when they perform their respective songs.

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 10:00 PM

Hearless Lucy:Holiday Edition - good till supplies last. enjoy it before it's gone

Now, I dont have any evidence but, I am sort of sure that there is some kind of hoarding going on to drive the demand up.

Posted by Tari 12/21/2006 at 10:01 PM

Greetings, Ptenisnet, and thanks. :)

May I say Happy Holidays to all? It's early, but there's no telling where everyone's going to scatter in the next couple of days. I hope this Season brings you all much joy.

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 10:03 PM

If we are throwing movies out, I would like to submit, For your consideration as it were, The Ref and Die Hard 1 and 2, but none of the Home Alone movies.

Posted by Sam 12/21/2006 at 10:04 PM

Thanks, Tari. Same to you (and everyone else).

Posted by Tari 12/21/2006 at 10:05 PM

The Ref!!! :)

Posted by abbey 12/21/2006 at 10:06 PM

i too would like to extend my greetings now to everyone...

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

-abbey

Posted by Sanja 12/21/2006 at 10:06 PM

Hi Friends! Just tried to turn on the TV and I got that bloody your service has been turned off so I've been pushing buttons on the phone for the last 20 minutes. Grrrrrrrrrrrr. Ok paid now - sorry, I tend to neglect that one.

Thanks Ptenisnet. Tari where HAVE YOU BEEN?

I echo Happy Holidays to everyone - and Joy to everyone. Thanks Tari! So sweet.

I love the heatmeiser and I love the island of the misfits (Rudolf), Sam.

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 10:07 PM

What Sam said (verbatim actually).

Posted by Sam 12/21/2006 at 10:17 PM

Here you go, Sanja (Heat Miser/Snow Miser songs):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz1A4GitID0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tc8YqZJbUE

Posted by Sam 12/21/2006 at 10:19 PM

"What Sam said (verbatim actually)."

You are a wise man, ptenisnet.

Posted by Sanja 12/21/2006 at 10:26 PM

You are all making my night (Thanks Sam brought me a tad of Xmas spirit). Had soup delivered earlier, had to cancel plans stuck here with the flu. My cable is back on and on channel 8 (TBS) National Lampoon's Xmas vacation. Just started at 10- never seen it. Fabulous.

Posted by Sherlock 12/21/2006 at 10:26 PM

Abbey, anytime. :) Hey, my favorite is Ordinary People, so obviously, I like to cry and be depressed. :)

Hi, Tari! Great idea about the holiday wishes. Same here to everyone.

Sam, great call on the movies. It's funny how good the music is on all those too. I'd throw in Frosty too, just for Durante's version. What a voice. And Burl Ives singing "Rudolph"...oh, yeah!

And yes, Sam, load up the Zep! It's road trip time!!

"The Ref"...who said that? Ptenisnet? I've never laughed so hard in my life. The movie Denis Leary was born to make. :)

Posted by Lucy 12/21/2006 at 10:29 PM

Well, supply is independent of demand in this instance. So if people are hoarding they're just gonna drive up the price.

Die Hards, for sure.

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 10:29 PM

National Lampoon's Xmas vacation
Oh that's right.
I had it on virtual tivo.

Posted by Sherlock 12/21/2006 at 10:32 PM

"You are a wise man, ptenisnet."

Awesome, Sam. :)

Sanja, sorry to hear about the flu. Isn't Ray waiting on you hand and foot?

Posted by Tari 12/21/2006 at 10:32 PM

Aww...Sanja! Feel better, OK? Bad timing to be sick. :(

Hello, Sherlock! :)

Posted by AmyLu 12/21/2006 at 10:33 PM

I'd like to extend Holiday wishes to everyone too. I wish all of you a very joyous holiday season. :)

And my vote for best movie would have to be The Grinch. I love Dr. Seuss!

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 10:36 PM

PST!!!!
happy holidays.

Posted by Lucy 12/21/2006 at 10:36 PM

Aww Sanja, I hope you're feeling better. A cold at Christmas, that sucks. Although at least you have the soup and the movie.

I've never seen NLCV, either.

Happy festive season to everybody!

Posted by Sanja 12/21/2006 at 10:37 PM

Thanks Tari! - I'm always good with the timing like that. Grrr.

Posted by abbey 12/21/2006 at 10:37 PM

sanja, hope you get better soon. at least the lampooners are making you laugh.

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 10:37 PM

The movie Denis Leary was born to make. :)

To subvert an oft-used phrase - No S*** Sherlock. Great movie.

Posted by Sam 12/21/2006 at 10:38 PM

You too, Sanja? I was out sick from work Tuesday & Wednesday, and coughing quite a bit today. I'm taking tomorrow off since my present will be delivered. :-)

Sherlock - Good call on Frosty.

Posted by Tari 12/21/2006 at 10:38 PM

Yep, AmyLu, The Grinch is one that I have to see every year as well. Who doesn't like it, I wonder?

Posted by Sherlock 12/21/2006 at 10:39 PM

Hi, AmyLu!

Oooh, the Grinch. A classic. Thurl Ravenscroft, or whatever his name is. Gotta love that voice. And Chuck Jones animation. A true genius. Wile E. Coyote and The Grinch. Two of the greats.

Tari, 11 days isn't it till 'SC-Michigan? Your boys are going down!! :)

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 10:39 PM

Let me echo the sentiments of everyone else in wishing Sanja a speedy recovery. Barring that a lot of soup and a shiatsu massage from Count Stonada.

Posted by Sanja 12/21/2006 at 10:40 PM

Yes - Lucy I can totally use this to my advantage. I can be waited on and excuse myself with "naps" to go read. It might not turn out that bad....

Thanks. Right back at ya!

Posted by Sam 12/21/2006 at 10:40 PM

"Thurl Ravenscroft, or whatever his name is. Gotta love that voice"

Great voice & song

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 10:40 PM

the Grinch

You guys arent talking the Jim Carrey one are you?

Posted by AmyLu 12/21/2006 at 10:41 PM

Sam, you will love watching sports on your new TV. My dad's Christmas gift in 2002 was a new TV - and it was delivered on the day of Ohio State's National Championship against Miami - so we broke the TV in with the Fiesta Bowl. There's no going back once you watch sports in high-def.

And, feel better Sanja and Sam!

Posted by Tari 12/21/2006 at 10:43 PM

LOL, Sherlock...seems to me there's a bet in the air??? I'll win it, trust me. :)

Posted by AmyLu 12/21/2006 at 10:44 PM

*shudders in horror* NO - not the Jim Carrey one.

And, random Grinch memory, my friends all called me Cindy Loohoo when I got my wisdom teeth out because my checks became ridiculously swollen for days afterward.

Posted by 12/21/2006 at 10:44 PM

"No S*** Sherlock"

Thanks, Ptenisnet. I've been here for so long, and noone's used that. I felt neglected. :)

Oh, that's right. Santa comes to Sam's place tomorrow!! So Sam, I know you've thought about this...what is going to be the inaugural movie on the new baby? Are you going to smoke a cigar when it shows up? :)

Posted by Sam 12/21/2006 at 10:44 PM

I've watched sports in high-def (just not at home), and I love it. Football was made to be watched in high-def on a widescreen TV.

Thanks AmyLu!

Posted by Tari 12/21/2006 at 10:45 PM

I don't think anyone is referring to the Jim Carrey one, ptenisnet. I have learned to like that one, though. Just because of Jim Carrey, basically.

Posted by MWC 12/21/2006 at 10:46 PM

My take is that "potential" ability is much like one's "unrealized gains" in their stock portfolio. Until said person sells his stock, his potential gains are worth nothing. For the 6 yr old, there are so many "ifs" about a player that young, that one really can't put much stock into someone saying, "Greer's the next Sharapova."

How many times have we heard that so and so basketball player is "the next jordan?" Too many to count. Someone that great comes along once in a blue moon. Let's not forget Jordan was cut by his JV coach in high school. He didn't really blossom until his Sophomore year in college.

I know of a tennis example close to Bolleterri's heart. I'll leave her name out of this, but this player was at one time the #1 16 and under girl in the nation training at Bolleterri. Her parent's wanted her to turn pro. She chose to go to school and play collegiately. She played four years, was their #1 for only one year. and was never ranked higher than 32 in the nation at any time. She never even qualified for the NCAA's. She did not turn pro. My point is here's an exaple of a player that everyone thought at 16 was unbelievable, and due to a variety of factors, was not the prospect everyone thought.

Potential is just that...potential. Until it is realized it really doesn't matter.

Posted by Lucy 12/21/2006 at 10:47 PM

Oh COME ON, Sherlock, that can't possibly be the first time someone here has used "No S*** Sherlock" at you? I guess everyone thought it was too obvious. Meanwhile it's been, God, months since anyone told me I had some 'splaining to do. My turn to feel neglected.

Sanja, that's the spirit.

Oh, has anyone else barely started their Christmas shopping?

Posted by Tari 12/21/2006 at 10:49 PM

Interesting, MWC...and of course, very true.

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 10:50 PM

I don't think anyone is referring to the Jim Carrey one, ptenisnet. I have learned to like that one, though. Just because of Jim Carrey, basically.
Havent seen it. The only movie I can stand to watch of Carrey's is the Truman Show. Because he acts like a normal human being for better part of the show.


And Sherlock, I am greatly surprised by that revelation.

Posted by Sherlock 12/21/2006 at 10:50 PM

Ptenisnet and AmyLu, lol. Love the reaction about the Jim Carrey version. :) That certainly wasn't what I was talking about. I refuse to acknowledge that version actually. It may be good, but it should have been called something else. Don't spoil a classic.

Ok, Tari, you're on!! :) I think some sort of public acknowledgemnent of your love for the Trojans is in order if I win.

And yes, I accept the award for the post with the most uses of the root word acknowledge.

Posted by Sam 12/21/2006 at 10:51 PM

Sherlock: Not sure what I'll watch first - maybe the Bourne Identity.. No cigar (can't stand 'em), but maybe a beer.

AmyLu: Aww, the Cindy Loohoo story is so cute. :-)

Posted by Tari 12/21/2006 at 10:51 PM

You haven't seen "Liar, Liar", ptenisnet? Wow. That's the one that made me a fan.

Posted by Sam 12/21/2006 at 10:54 PM

I like some of Jim Carrey's movies. I didn't like The Truman Show at all. Nothing to do with him, just something about the movie really annoyed me.

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 10:56 PM

Oh I have seen Liar Liar. Although that was more about Maura Tierney for me.

Incidentally - Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows.

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 10:57 PM

P.S. You heard it here first, unless you heard it somewhere else.

Posted by Sherlock 12/21/2006 at 10:58 PM

"Oh, has anyone else barely started their Christmas shopping?"

You haven't started your shopping, Lucy? Drumroll please..."you got some 'splaining to do!"

I've started, but it doesn't really become a challenge till at least the 23rd.

MWC, that was a great, great post.

Posted by AmyLu 12/21/2006 at 10:58 PM

ptenisnet, I liked The Mask (along with Liar, Liar) of his comedic ones - as a teenager I liked Dumb and Dumber, along with the first Ace Ventura, not sure if I'd still like them. But my favorite Carrey movie, by far, is Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. I love that movie. I actually have never seen The Truman Show.

Posted by Tari 12/21/2006 at 10:58 PM

Well, that's not a very unpleasant ask, if I lose, Sherlock...I'm tempted to respond in kind...hmm...let me think, OK?
Deal, though. :)

I've never seen The Truman Show.

Posted by Sam 12/21/2006 at 11:00 PM

"Oh, has anyone else barely started their Christmas shopping?"

*raises hand*

Posted by ptenisnet 12/21/2006 at 11:02 PM

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Actually I forgot about this one.

Lucy: (writing) Dear Linus, Please send me another canoe. The first one broke when I threw it at Charlie Brown

This is probably a better fit for our lucy.

Posted by Tari 12/21/2006 at 11:02 PM

Oh, Sam! You're sitting around, distracted, thinking about that TV aren't you? I would be, too. ;-)

Posted by Sherlock 12/21/2006 at 11:02 PM

It's the Christmas spirit, Tari. Ask me tomorrow after I've been shopping, and I'll have Lucy's heartless thing going. :)

Posted by Lucy 12/21/2006 at 11:05 PM

Well, I've delegated some of it. And last night I went to the shops, but all I bought was silly stuff. Like the copy of the Starr Report I got at The Reject Shop for $2 just because it tickled me to find it there for that price. Dad will love it, especially if I leave the price tag on. That's what you mean when you said to get him a book, right?

AmyLu, I'm with you. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. I loved The Mask as a kid, but I haven't seen it in quite awhile. The Truman Show (go Peter Weir!) is pretty good, too. Ace Ventura doesn't hold up, though. Just warning you in case you ever get the urge to re-watch it.

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