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Davis Cup Wrap 09/21/2009 - 12:00 PM

By Pete Bodo

It was a great weekend for heroes, if not for Andy Murray, whose Great Britain Davis Cup squad went down in stinky flames to Poland in - get this - Group I zonal competition. And at home, no less.

That's right, Murray and company weren't even fighting for the privilege of remaining in the World Group, as were so many marquee names this weekend; they're wallowing down in the zonal pits and it's fair to ask, can you get there (WG) from here? Or, at what point is Murray entitled to throw up his hands and walk away from the Davis Cup mess, much like Roger Federer did some years ago, grumbling: Get me someone, anyone who can play this stupid game!


While the importance of Davis Cup remains an issue among some fans and the media persists in ignoring this all-around terrific competition, the nations of the world continue to field increasingly formidable squads and produce sometimes insanely competitive and/or dramatic ties. How about Nicolas Lapentti, at the mind-blowing age of 33, leading Ecuador into the elite World Group fold by playing two best-of-five singles and a doubles over three  consecutive days, on clay, to lead his squad past Brazil - in Brazil?

Meet Nico Lapentti, Davis Cup MVP of this week. We're not taking questions.

Lapentti won his Day One singles i handily but, playing alongside his brother Giovanni, he had to grind out fives sets to help secure the doubles. Thus, in the scripted meeting of No. 1s, Lapentti played the fourth, potentially clinching rubber against Brazilian no. 1 Marcos Daniel. Long story short: Lapentti won it, 8-6 in the fifth

And this is what Lapentti said in the wake of his great effort: “It is one of the most special moments of my life. I really couldn’t believe when the match finished, because it was so up and down. I was very tired after the first two sets but this is the beauty of Davis Cup, the energy of a team and the energy of a country."

Come on, sports editors and broadcasters of the USA, give it up for Davis Cup. How about a little love? And yes, I'll keep saying it until I'm blue in the face, even though I'm already blue in the face. Davis Cup is, along with the four Grand Slam events, an absolutely critical crown jewel of the game. And there's nothing wrong with the format; Davis Cup has had a player-commitment problem, not a format problem.

But as an increasing number of players from formerly off-the-radar nations contend at majors (Djokovic is a great example; Federer would have been one, too, if only he weren't playing tennis for different stakes than everyone else) and earn big reputations by winning them, the status of Davis Cup will continue to grow. One net-gain for tennis in this period of relative weakness in the US is that the indifference of the media here is not an embarrassment for Davis Cup, nor does anyone else in the world give a hoot about our general attitude toward the competition. The decline of talent in the US has boosted Davis Cup worldwide.


And consider this: Roger Federer played the key role in keeping Switzerland in the World Group. Chile, France, Serbia, India, Sweden and Ecuador - a mix of tennis powers and game outsiders - will join the Swiss. We had some very big names in the breech with the embarrassment of relegation to the Davis Cup minors (in some nations, that's considered a scandal) at stake.The key players who stepped up for their nations included Lapentti, Nicolas Massu (Chile), Somdev Devvarman (India), Robin Soderling (Sweden), and Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (France). Serbia didn't even feel obliged to play Novak Djokovic - which just shows how far that small nation has advanced in the tennis food chain. It's still a  laundry list of familiar names, if you know that Lapentti was once in the top 10, Massu an Olympic Games singles gold medalist, and Devvarman a two-time NCAA champion. You probably know about that Federer guy, too.

And you've got the love the plain-jane but information rich Davis Cup website of the ITF. It's not nearly as slick and "now" as the ATP or WTA sites, but it's incomparably easier to navigate and just feels like a real, no-nonsense, tennis nut's site.

Of course, it was a lost weekend for Andy Murray; Great Britain now drops back another league, to Group II.But hey - they're probably still dancing in the streets in Cracow.

PS - Treat this as the Your Call post for today.

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Posted by NP 09/22/2009 at 02:32 AM

AM, that's why I keep bragging.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 09/22/2009 at 02:32 AM

Rg Nadal I just think Rafa has to cut back a little on his tournaments,I still feel you have to compete prior to say MS tournaments and GS titles as well.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 09/22/2009 at 02:33 AM

NP Yes I forgot you are just a "misunderstood guy".

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 09/22/2009 at 02:35 AM

Neil Harman isn't very happy with the situation, anyway:

Posted by NP 09/22/2009 at 02:43 AM

K, I'm outtie. Later, folks.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 09/22/2009 at 02:48 AM

Jewell I think Murray was in no mental or physical shape to partake in the DC to start with.

I am not making excuses at all,Novak didnt play for Serbia either I dont know what the excuse was there.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 09/22/2009 at 02:59 AM

Oh, I've got no criticism of Murray at all - I thought he showed plenty of heart and courage in playing at all, and he won both his singles match.

The point is we really ought to be able to win such ties without being so desperate that he needs to play injured and tired like that.

I think John Lloyd had a hard job, too, given that so many players are injured or ill or in a deep slump or simply incapable of winning a Davis Cup match. Relying on Dan Evans was always going to be risky given that it was Evans' debut and all. I'm not sure why he didn't pick Chris Eaton though...maybe he wasn't available or is ranked lower. But he's shown he can win big matches in DC and at Wimbledon, and he won a title last week.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 09/22/2009 at 03:00 AM


Thank God NP is now dozing happily away and won't see my grammar fail...LOL.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 09/22/2009 at 03:05 AM

Np is a lurker Jewell,Beware

Look in a way Australia are in a similar situation,gee we cant reply on Hewitt all the time he is 28.At least Murray has youth on his side.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 09/22/2009 at 03:06 AM

Other possible remedies include getting a Nick Bollettieri and getting into the new European Collegiate Tennis Association.

I don't know, I'd say we could do with more tennis in state schools before worrying about universities. My school had courts but couldn't afford to supply proper racquets (I remember some lessons with plastic racquets and sponge balls - very useful) and couldn't expect parents to provide them - so, no play unless you paid to use the courts after hours. Or could afford to join a private club, of course. And could then follow a strange and arcane set of rules about what shoes you could wear and how loudly you were allowed to shout.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 09/22/2009 at 03:11 AM

Well, there's always Tomic... ;-)

yes, it's difficult. But somehow I trust that Australia will find people who can step up when it's necessary.

Jesus - Roger Draper gets paid £500 000 per year! I guess that one isn't performance-related. I don't see how the LTA can take any credit even for our really good male players - we, er, "borrowed" Rusedski from Canada, Henman came from a tennis-playing dynasty, Murray came from the power of his mother as far as I can make out.

I wonder what has happened to Jamie Murray? He's certainly got talent.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 09/22/2009 at 03:15 AM

Ooh...rumblings of a DC captain change? It could be a good idea...I think Rusedski might be favourite to take over:

"Actually Rusedski - some people's pick to replace John Lloyd when a decision is taken to change the captain - was exceedingly outspoken during the BBC commentary on the Poland tie. He was unhappy with the tactics of Dan Evans in the second rubber, suggested he was not listening to Lloyd's instructions and wondered aloud whether three home defeats in succession with bad selections in terms of players and court surfaces, raised question marks over his future. When LTA employees in the past have spoken out so controversially, they have been shown the door. The Net Post suspects that it will not happen in the case of Rusedski, the junior Davis Cup captain and a a talent ID ambassador for the governing body."

- from Neil H's Net Post.

Posted by Peg 09/22/2009 at 03:18 AM

"Need to defend it once. 2010 baby. I'm on the crazy Fed train for RG."

Is there a sane Fed train for us more sedate types? ;-)

"What does anyone think of Murray's chances on clay next year?"

Muzz still strikes me as smart and ambitious enough to up his fitness and technique another notch during the off-season. He also impresses me as willing to hire whomever or travel to wherever he feels will help him improve. Lendl didn't win a Slam until he was almost 24, and he didn't get serious about improving on grass (_his_ least favorite surface) until he was 25 or 26 - and, as smart and ambitious as Lendl was, Muzz does seem to be ahead of him in terms of openly grappling with being less good on a given surface.

So, stated less convolutedly, I'd be willing to put real money on him doing better in 2010. (For the time being, I'd be less keen on betting on him to make a Slam final - he does keep getting knocked out by lower-ranked players, though whether that's due to bad luck or not-yet-adequate stamina/agility (mental as well as physical), I haven't decided.)

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 09/22/2009 at 03:25 AM

This is from January this year, about Jamie Murray:

His doubles ranking has gone from 27 down to 106 and has been as low as 135 this year. Whereas Ross Hutchins's doubles ranking is I can see you'd pick Hutchins over Jamie really.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 09/22/2009 at 03:28 AM

Hello, Peg! How are you? I thought I'd bored everybody to death. ;-)

I agree about the drive and ability to interesting to see what happens on clay next year, anyway.

Posted by Peg 09/22/2009 at 03:36 AM

Hi Jewell! I'm close to heading to bed (it's 3:30 a.m. where I'm at), but I have a half-glass of wine to finish first. ;-)

I had a question for you, actually - had Lloyd's choices as DC captain been generally considered sound, up to now? There was a Evert/Navratilova bio I read earlier this year where he was depicted as lacking in mental stamina, but given the topic of the book, his shortcomings were very much presented from Evert's POV.

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 09/22/2009 at 03:38 AM

Jewell I think Ross Hutchins is rather good looking as well.

I think Murray has to learn when to play defense into ofense,he says he watches videos of other players

Murray methinks you should watch Rafa more often.

Posted by Peg 09/22/2009 at 03:44 AM

AM - did you catch the glimpse of shirtless Ross in the Bryans' hotel room, a couple months back?

*has not-coincidental urge to revisit the pic*
*goes digging through gauloises' archives* Ah, here it is.

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 09/22/2009 at 03:45 AM

I'm not sure they have been actually, but this time his choices were limited, anyway.

Not to mention that all of them apart from Murray seem totally incapable of doing anything useful in a DC tie, even when playing people of similar ranking and ability (I am cross with them and therefore feel entitled to be totally unfair, LOL.) I mean, I wouldn't want to have Lloydy's job.

I remember rumblings about not picking Chris Eaton at some point before though.

Right...I have to go to work. Enjoy the wine, Peg! Bye, everyone. :)

Posted by jewell - Make tea, not war. 09/22/2009 at 03:47 AM

Makes me wish the Davis Cup was won on who looked best without a shirt on, really. :)

*really goes*

Posted by aussiemarg [Madame President in Comma Rehab for 2009] 09/22/2009 at 03:53 AM

Peg LOL!!!! well Ross can always take that up after his tennis days are over.

Posted by Peg 09/22/2009 at 03:59 AM

"Makes me wish the Davis Cup was won on who looked best without a shirt on, really. :)"

Hee! Germany would have to think about adding Bjorn Phau, maybe?...

Posted by Peg 09/22/2009 at 04:04 AM

*bids goodnight/good-wishes-for-the-rest-of-the-day to AM, the crickets, and the lurkers* :-)

Posted by Aussiemarg Madame President,Healer of Rafa's Injured Body Parts. 09/22/2009 at 04:05 AM

Bye Peg

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 05:29 AM

Hmmm, not convinced about Eaton. He's won a dead rubber and not done much apart from being a folk hero for 5 seconds or so, has he?

*Someone* has to stand up and take responsibility for the failures of British tennis. Not sure it should be John Lloyd though.

And I am starting a 'Timothy the Hen Man For D Cup Captain' movement here and now. Who's with me?!

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 05:33 AM

I also have a cunning plan: let's put either Heather or Laura in some shorts, a baggy T-shirt and a fake moustache.

Bet that would get us somewhere we could at least *see* the World Group from. Or anyway couldn't be worse.

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 05:35 AM

Added bonus: that's just dying to be made into a heartwarming film. I see it as A League of Their Own meets Wimbledon meets Mulan.

They don't gender-test in Davis Cup, right?

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 05:40 AM

You know who'd make an amazing D Cup captain? Virginia Wade.

I would like to see the man who dared to lose to a player ranked 3000 spots below them with Our Ginny in charge.

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 05:44 AM


The original and still the best Tumbleweed Queen.

I thank you.

Posted by Hopp 09/22/2009 at 06:02 AM

contro Bolelli

Posted by Hopp 09/22/2009 at 06:12 AM

mission accomplished

Posted by Porto 09/22/2009 at 06:20 AM

I can feel a new chapter
has begun.

The Nadal

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 06:57 AM

I hate the fact that i have to watch Davis Cup on the internet, but the pain to my back, neck, eyeballs is sooo worth it. Its really too bad it doesn't get more coverage in North America, because i think the raucousness of the crowds during Davis Cup ties would probably be more appealing to the casual or non tennis fan, because its more like the more popular sports in that regard.

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 06:58 AM

Hehehehe Porto, a few were suggesting it was the end of the Federer era last year at just about this time, and we can see how that ended up. Ebbs and flows my friend, that is all :)

Posted by Samantha Elin 09/22/2009 at 07:41 AM

The return of the greatest to ever grace the game, welcome back Juju.

Posted by rg.nadal 09/22/2009 at 07:45 AM

gauloises: Hey. Henman could make a good DC captain. He is a nice guy, a very good player, who knows the responsibility of carrying the burden of expectations. I see one problem though: is he assertive enough to make everyone listen to him, esp someone as individualistic as Murray. May be someone like Shamil Tarpishchev would be good? Btw, on grass why was Evans chosen over Chris Eaton? Eaton should have been picked for the doubles at least along with Murray.

Posted by rg.nadal 09/22/2009 at 07:45 AM

Btw, I love the DC website.

Posted by VC 09/22/2009 at 07:46 AM

I remember guys like Jeremy Bates, Chris Bailey, Barry Cowan causing the odd splash at Wimbledon in the '90s, what would the LTA give to have a player of even that caliber right now...

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 09/22/2009 at 07:49 AM

'morning all!

Gauloises: love your idea of putting the chicas on the UK DC team. would be a great story at any rate.

Jewell: are you moving to Oz? that's what your posts sounded like. If so, i'm jealous. maybe i'll come with you.

Hi Neil! yes, dealing with the streams and the awful popup ads is a massive pain in the arse. I don't get tennis channel and the ITF doesn't show their streams in the U.S. - what about canada? It would be worth paying to see the final i think. god, i'm fretting about being able to see the final already.

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 07:59 AM

Annie!!!! i did catch one match using the ITF website, but usually used fromsports. I can fix Britains DC woes, just import Frank Dancevic to be the number 2, kinda like when they stole Rusedski from us :)

Meanwhile if anyone knows how i can remove the french accents from my keyboard, ièd love them forever!!

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 08:00 AM

rg.nadal - hey there. The tie was played on indoor HCs, not grass this time.

Posted by rg.nadal 09/22/2009 at 08:05 AM

gauloises: Ah. Ai Ai Ai. My bad. Sorry.

Posted by rg.nadal 09/22/2009 at 08:06 AM

Hope Rafa plays the final. Else Verdasco would be good too.

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 08:19 AM

I'm pondering this Dancevic idea ... would he be up for it? We could give Rusedski back ...

Posted by Master Ace 09/22/2009 at 08:24 AM

Manuelsantana Fan,
The last(failed) drive by Miami led by Pennington was horrible. Manning checked into the right play(bubble screen) to win the game as Miami was coming at him with the blitz. Agree that Miami tackling by the secondary was not good. Overall, a team that runs over 200 yards, keep the ball 45 minutes, and their opposition run only 35 plays supposed to win that game.

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 08:27 AM

LOL Gauloises, meh, we've got Polansky and Raonic now, so we can spare him, consider it a loan to the commonwealth :) Of course you do have to accept Celine Dion as part of the package LOL

Posted by mina hearts Rafa... ecstatic for Elf 09/22/2009 at 09:17 AM

neil and G, on TW at the same time? lovely to see those monikers back here...

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 09:21 AM

Yeah Mina, fun to pop in and see some friendly and familiar faces :). I shall endeavour to stop by more often !!

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 09:35 AM

ROFL, just previewed the Bryan Bro's album, not sure of the title, but Odes For Douchebags sounds about right. You can get it for the amazingly low price of $ 3.97 on Amazon. About $3.96 too much IMHO.

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 09:41 AM

We'll take Celine Dion if you'll take Sarah Brightman.

Was Raonic the kid who played well in Montreal? Young? He was very impressive, I thought.

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 09:52 AM

Deal G., i've never heard of her, but i gather she must be along the same lines if you're willing to part with her. Yes, Raonic qualified by beating Gabashvili and Llodra before going down to Gonzo 6-4 in the third set. Promising, so i'm sure tennis Canada will a), find a way to muck things up for him or b), he'll do the smart thing and train in the states :). Polansky went one round better, losing to Novak 6-4, 7-6 in the second round. His ranking is up to 184, not that far behind Frank.

Posted by Anne 09/22/2009 at 09:56 AM

I am crying in my coffee cup I am laughing so hard! I love Canuck/Brit humor! The US would gladly send James Blake and Taylor Dent (there must be some British lineage in there some where)-heehee!

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 10:03 AM

Hey Anne!! I'd keep Dent, he gets injured a ton obviously, but he's a fun dude to watch play. This year's U.S. Open, he was like the old, hairy version of Melanie Oudin, a complete Cinderfella story :)

Posted by crazyone 09/22/2009 at 10:06 AM

that's true, you could take Blake! His mother is British.

Posted by Peg 09/22/2009 at 10:07 AM

"Meanwhile if anyone knows how i can remove the french accents from my keyboard, ièd love them forever!!"

On the off chance this could help: Neil, are you on a PC? If so, try checking Control Panel > Regional and Language Options > Languages tab > Details (button under "Text services and input languages"). Something or someone may have accidentally set your keyboard layout to "France" or "United States International" instead of "United States - Dvorak" or whatever standard version you had been using.

Alternately, on some PCs there will be a tiny keyboard icon in the taskbar and the name of the language setting, or a simple grey square with "EN" or "FR" in it. In which case you don't have to faff with the Control Panel - you can just click that square and reset the language from there.

Posted by Anne 09/22/2009 at 10:08 AM

Neil, if the Brian bros insist on a singing career, they can be shipped off, as well. We'll just have to find ARod a doubs partner!

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 10:13 AM

Thanks Peg!! I actually just restarted my computer and that took care of things :) Anne, after hearing the previews, trust me, the BryBro's aren't going ANYWHERE LOL. If you don't count friends and family purchases, i predict they've sold 1/2 of 1 copy :)

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 10:14 AM

If Dent could stay healthy, he and A Rod would make a pretty formidable doubles team.

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 10:15 AM

James Blake has a British passport, I think.

Do we want him though? Really? It might be just too high a price to pay even for the World Group.

Plus he doesn't have a good D Cup record, does he?

Posted by Anne 09/22/2009 at 10:17 AM

Not "doubs"-dubs, as in doubles! Oh, and can you take Mr. Beckham back as well. I saw him on Sportscenter one day-it was like nails on a chalkboard, very painful.

Posted by debbie 09/22/2009 at 10:17 AM

is everyone ignoring the obvious potential for off color humor with the announcement of Serena shilling for tampons?

too funny!

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 10:18 AM

I'm bizarrely tempted to say we'd take the Bryan Brothers. They could record a duet (triet?) with Celine Dion. Plus this is the land of Jack the Ripper, they'd be right at home.

Posted by crazyone 09/22/2009 at 10:19 AM

gauloises, I think he could beat a 600 ranked Polish player.

and he's scored a few big wins in DC.

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 10:20 AM

Does anybody want our non-Murray male players, or are we just putting them on an iceberg and pushing them out to sea, much as the Eskimos used to do with their washed-up players?

We probably play in the same zone as the Eskimos now, thinking about it.

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 10:22 AM

"I think he could beat a 600 ranked Polish player."

Fair point. I think steam just came out of my ears.

Posted by Anne 09/22/2009 at 10:22 AM

Oh G, I wouldn't count on JB to beat anyone these days (and this is from a diehard James fan). I'll even throw in Mardy Fish so I can stop cheering for him, too. Now I am choking on my coffe I am laughing so hard!!

Posted by crazyone 09/22/2009 at 10:23 AM

gauloises, I recently discovered that Britain has...Boggo KADs, which is just...mindBOGGling.

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 10:24 AM

We could probably use Jamie Murray over here in Canada, i mean Nestor certainly can't keep going on forever. He's gotta be at least 60 now no?

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 10:25 AM

Oh, and i wouldn't mind Hutchins for completely non-tennis related business :). A Brit that tans....gotta be kind of like a unicorn.

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 10:26 AM

We are NOT taking Mardy Fish. We will NEVER be that desperate.

c1, I heard a story from some journos at Wimbledon, can't remember if it actually made it into the papers, about Boggo and his doubles partner leaving the court for a bathroom break and being asked for an autograph by a group of drunk guys. When they said they had no time, the 'fans' chased them across the grounds ...

Anyway, if I have anything to do with it, Boggo will be fired out of a cannon pointed in the vague direction of eastern Europe. Whichever country he happens to land in will be forced to take responsibility for him, or at least clean up the mess.

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 10:27 AM

Hutch we're keeping. He's pretty. Suspiciously pretty, actually. Are we sure he's British?

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 10:28 AM

BTW G, Congrats on Travis Parott winning the mixed doubles!!! You have some impressive tennis friends :)

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 10:31 AM

Ha, I wish he was my friend.

He is seriously good-looking, I wish I'd talked to him at Queens.

Posted by Anne 09/22/2009 at 10:32 AM

Ok, ya'll have to stop-my side is hurting (Neil, are you related to Mike Myers?!?!) To sweeten the pot for Mardy, the US will issue British passports for Venus and Serena.

Posted by Anne 09/22/2009 at 10:34 AM

Who's Hutch?

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 10:37 AM

Ross Hutchins.

Doubles specialist and quasi-Team Murray member.

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 10:37 AM

LOL Anne, sweetening the pot and Mardin Fish are mutually exclusive. Nope not related to Mike Meyers, but we breathe the same clean Canadian air, so that could be it.

And for the love of all that is holy, Anne, please send mardy some full size grown up socks :)

Posted by crazyone 09/22/2009 at 10:37 AM

G, do you appreciate Henman more now at least?

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 10:41 AM

I actually do, c1.

That's why I want him to be DC captain, so that humiliating failure can at least come with a side helping of Henman, as is our ancient custom in this country.

Posted by crazyone 09/22/2009 at 10:44 AM

LOL, G. But that just seems cruel to him.

Posted by Anne 09/22/2009 at 10:45 AM

Unfortunately, I have no control over Mardy's fashion or hygiene(read:sweatbands and scuffy beard) choices. Neil, you need to be bottling whatever it is you're inhaling and sell it-ya'll are absolutely hilarious!

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 10:47 AM

Geez Anne, flattery will get you everywhere :), so besides being a Blake fan, who else do you like?

Posted by crazyone 09/22/2009 at 10:48 AM

and at least he was in the habit of failing in the Wimbledon SFs, not Davis Cup zonal relegation.

wow, this was quite a tie.

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 10:53 AM

I have no memory of that 1999 tie at all, which is a shame because it looks amazing.

I don't think you get quite the depths of bitterness many of us Tims hold towards the Hen Man, c1. Personally, I *want* him to suffer. He shall not be considered off the hook until Rosie and Olivia grow up, win Wimbledon (singles and doubles), and the Fed Cup at the very least. Then we'll call it even.

Posted by Annie (Vamos Heavenly Creature) 09/22/2009 at 11:02 AM

neil: sarah brightman's married to the guy that composed every broadway musical for the last 20 years. what the heck's his name..not tim

Posted by Anne 09/22/2009 at 11:03 AM

Neil, love Rog (of course who doesn't) and Delpo (I promise I loved him even before his win!) I try to love Rafa, but given what he's done to Rog, I just can't make that one stick. But my all time fav (in this era, anyway) is David Nalbandian. No one has a sweeter two hander than Nalby! And my American pick is Johnny Isner. I saw your boy Frankie D. is Houston a couple of years ago-some good shots, but lacks the consistency of the top tier.

Posted by VC 09/22/2009 at 11:05 AM

Speaking of classic DC ties, I was going through some of Fed's DC exploits before my time following him and I came across this one:

What an epic!

Posted by VC 09/22/2009 at 11:05 AM

Speaking of classic DC ties, I was going through some of Fed's DC exploits before my time following him and I came across this one:

What an epic!

Posted by VC 09/22/2009 at 11:06 AM

Sorry for the double post.

Posted by Lynne (Rafalite) 09/22/2009 at 11:06 AM

'Morning, all:

Annie: Are you thinking of Andrew Lloyd Webber? If so, he and Sarah divorced yonks ago.

Posted by Anne 09/22/2009 at 11:09 AM

Neil, faves?

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 11:11 AM

Annie: Andrew Lloyd Webber?

OH Anne LOL, our budding friendship has just crashed and burned . Dedicated Rafa fan here for for a bazillion reasons, but mostly for really being the first to step up and not be afraid to take it to Roger. I do have tons of respect for his game though if that helps :) Love Delpo too, so i think we can salvage things hehehehe. Isner, also like him a lot, i can't believe how well these big guys can move AND get down to their shots.

On to Frank, he does have talent, but i hear he's not all that dedicated to the work involved in becoming a consistent threat. Pinning all my maple leaf hopes and back bacon dreams on the new kid Milos Raonic, hopefully we'll be hearing good things about him in the future.

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 11:14 AM

Anne - massive high fives for the JMDP/Nalby love! You have excellent taste.

Posted by Anne 09/22/2009 at 11:19 AM

Neil, that's exactly why I can't love Rafa-he keeps taking Rog to the woodshed! Like you,though, I've got a huge amount of respect for my fave's nemesisn ad he's cute as a button! I didn't know Raonic (or Milos, for that matter)was a Canadian name.

Posted by Jackie 09/22/2009 at 11:20 AM

LOL-ing hardcore.

g, Hutch is on the SB. Paying attention? ;)

Posted by neil in toronto 09/22/2009 at 11:31 AM

I think Raonic is probably of Serbian descent, but he was born here, so it totally counts. At least Rog won their last match up in Madrid. I think the Rafa/Fed matches are still the premiere events, tho it was really great to see Juan come in and shake things up.

How about the W.T.A.? I'm so glad that Kim is back and was super happy for her achievement at the U.S. Open. Pretty rare to have gone through both Williams sisters and still having enough energy to win the title. Oudin of course was a great story, and hope she can keep things going. Love Lisicki, and Azarenka as well. They seem to have the mental fortitude to become the next gen. of great women players.

Posted by Anne 09/22/2009 at 11:32 AM

G, thanks. What can I say...I'm a sucker for a tall drink of water (even though Nalby is only 6ft tall, he must be 2ft wide so that makes him 8 ft!). There's just something soooo yummy about the Argies!

Posted by Anne 09/22/2009 at 11:42 AM

Neil, did you just use the words "mental fortitude" when descibing Azarenka? Now I know there's something more sinister in the "fresh Canadian air" you're breathing! Girl's got plenty of game, but I wouldn't call mental fortitude one of her strengths. Love Re and Ve but can understand how many are turned off by their 'tudes. Now Kimmy C, on the other hand, has way more mental fortitude now than she ever had the first go round. As for Melly O., I don't think she's got the game to make it to the top. She's a fighter, but I don't see super technique or touch.

Posted by gauloises 09/22/2009 at 11:44 AM

Hey Jackie! Actually no, despite appearances I'm working :)

Always glad to see another aficianado of the marvellous, maddening Argies ...

Posted by Anne 09/22/2009 at 11:44 AM

Oh, I forgot my fave lady-Kuzty! How Kuzt didn't win this year's Open, yikes!

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